romeoetin:
We aren't as undeveloped as they are making us seem. At least they could have used a stadium for Us

Why? They play in the countryside too.

Some of you are way too concerned about looking perfext when under the white gaze.

ernieboy:
e don't tay, since the retirement of JJ okocha we have not been able to find a worthy replacement, even in the attack we are yet to get any sharp attacker like we used to have in the past.

Real talk. He spearheaded our attacks with execution and masterful dribbling without fallong to the ground like a bitch

Hmmmm

Still the only jersey worth a damn because we actually won wearing it.

Time to put it away again for the TWENTY SECOND YEAR. ��

Aoeke:
Does Nigerians just believe everything they read There was so much b.s. in that press release.....not sure why. Does anybody verify anything before printing in that country? Am just wondering

I'm going to perform my own due diligence on this.

I want to see the best for Ife but I also want to know more behind this.

Someone is going to come in and hate on this.

So proud of our king. Much more to come based on his US trip.

Us Ife folks are beyond happy

InkedNerd:
Hausa's in New York? Where do they hang out? I have NEVER come across a someone who was Hausa. In fact, it wasn't up until last month that my sister met a Fulani guy from another high school here in New York. I see Ibo's and Yoruba's left and right but I have yet to meet or see someone who is Fulani let alone Hausa. A while ago, I asked my mom why Northerners don't travel too much and why I don't see too many of them around.

I saw a Fulani guy in Brooklyn last week. Was a first for me in years though.

Mj45:





Last time I checked Mr/Miss high moral judge, the term "negro" was and still remains an abusive word the whites used for black slaves. Humph, considering your nationality, you are even one. Let me see, the gender equality thing got you. For all your silly self righteousness, you are no better. Just hug a transformer cos you are obviously not worth the effort. I called them jobless females, suck it up. Even toddlers know that beauty pageants almost involve full nudity and in Nigeria, even prostitution and if you don't know that then I clearly have NO business with you. Whatever your reason for getting bitter about my comment, drink it up and keep being bitter cos you are officially ignored from this moment. Mtcheww.

High and moral is the cat who makes a judgment based on photos. Its amazing that like your quick to judge on still photos, you've decided to speak on my make up while knowing zero about me.

I'm glad I don't walk through life judging still photos, posters I don't know on message boards in order to feel better about myself or to boost my limited self esteem. I'm from a part of town where being a chatty patty over things like still photos or quick to judge are considered feminine qualities and are itch made. You wear that yoke playboy.

moscyt:

The only thing good from jamaica is the patois

You've never had Jerk Chicken, mauby or listens to dancehall while grinding on a Yardie woman obviously..

Mj45:





Believe or not but a picture can speak a thousand words. But don't take it "personal" cos like l said earlier , " it's my unsolicited opinion.
Hope you had a good day. Sleep tight.

nah...a quick to judge negro is a quick to judge negro.

Nothing to take personal. I don't go through life speaking on the make up of people based off of still photos

Mj45:
Jobless females.
Wonder when these ones will learn to get serious as in read reasonable courses and create dignified jobs than parading half naked up and down. Tomorrow when their rubbish doesn't pay enough, they resort to "gender equality" fight. Some females sha, always looking for easy money. Well, just my uncalled for opinion but I am still of the opinion that this pageant stuff should be left for the Nursery/ Primary school children.

Amazing that you were able to read their background in that still photo

princey83:

no. Real ife princes and Princess from the 4 royal houses do not seat on the floor. They seat beside the king on chairs even with their sandals on. Atleast this was the practice doing the time of Sijuwade.

My dad is a prince from Lafogido ruling house and had to sit before Sijuwade

jrusky:
Please Ife people sorry for asking this question "is this man really a king of such a powerful kingdom called IFE the ODUDUWA HOMELAND? I have be following some event about this king it somehow amazed me I THINK HIS PUBLICITY IS GETTING TOO COLD FOR COMFORT AS A KING IN A SUCH GREAT LAND anyway not my problem though.

Next thread please..............

Are you going to be our spokesman? Asking for a friend

At every turn, whites systematically got in the way of every black collective success at wealth. You see it in the US with the destruction of numerous thriving black towns such as Rosewood, Tulsa and elsewhere which led to blacks taking Syrian like refugee tracks from the south to create northern urban ghettos which they have been in since.

We see it in Africa where black proxies were put In to replace our past colonial rulers leaving us financialized colonial subjects. Anyone who dared spoke for the people were suammarily executed through the use of those black proxies.

MLK said it best a month before he was murdered


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4vdfugMFbg

Wrong link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8550614.stm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/familylemba.html

The Lembe Jews of Zimbabwe and South Africa are genetically linked to ancient jews

macof:



this is time wasting na. just cus I mentioned african descendants or black diaspora doesn't mean I was implying Ogunwusi was speaking with them when he made those hazardous statements

Part of my defensiveness here is tied to this duality you speak of. It's always in the back of my mind, the embrace of the handed colonial religion, counter to what's innately and directly ours.

I too believed that to be Ooni means full commitment to the practice of our faith, however I also know that his predecessors were the same way.

macof:


hmmm. .. Yoruba also have similarities with Chinese which includes time keeping system
the Egyptians had similarities with the Aztec like burying slaves with Kings. ..Yoruba had this too

To talk about a group of people in connection to another group we must look at the language : Yoruba is a Niger-Congo language of the Volta - Niger branch. . Hebrew of the Jews is Afro-Asiatic no correlation can be made between both languages. The spirituality: Yorubas aren't exactly monotheistic in tradition, there's animism, Pantheism and Polytheism in our traditional beliefs. ... Jews are strictly monotheistic

so on what grounds does yoruba have anything to do with Jews? what part of the numerous orikis in yorubaland talk about Jews? or our trek from Israel?

when slaves were taken from yorubaland to Brazil, Cuba etc they retained much of the tradition. I just saw a Cuban music group called the Orishas...it seems Cubans are even more interested in Yoruba culture than yorubas at home. .Bunch of slaves! (the real slaves are the mentally enslaved not the physically enslaved)

with this in mind, why didn't yoruba retain Jewish culture like the yoruba descendants in the new world retained yoruba culture?

you see you are only trying to justify yourself with this Jewish - Yoruba thing for stooping so low to worship Jews

I won't argue here. Trust me, you're not alone vehemently having these feelings. I've long fought that fight and I too feel that Yoruba culture is better nurtured outside of Nigeroa than within it.

Remember When DNA testing was done for this clan in Uganda proving they were of Jewish heritage?

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/The_Jewish_Tribe_in_Uganda.html?mobile=yes

I would love to see the same testing done for Yoruba and those from that area to either open or close this theory.

macof:


What's this one saying? stop acting like you are some intelligent individual cus you lack basic comprehension... where did I say he spoke about Jesus to black diaspora? go improve your comprehension skills and stop wasting my time

is it right for an Ooni of any century whether in the past, present or future to preach Jesus? is Ogunwusi now a Pastor Ooni?
pls answer my question

Wasting your time? Now you're playing the verbatim game when you brought up the Ooni speaking to African descendants. I interpreted that as the black diaspora. So get off your high horse trying to categorize me as lacking in comprehension when you're robust with intellectual dishonesty.

Let's go back to my previous post. I don't think you're completely off.

macof:


listen, this is very wrong for any Prince hoping to contest to be Oba anywhere in yorubaland. like I said in a previous thread, it is better for the pride of the Yoruba race that we don't have Obas than to have Obas that are really slaves(mentally), bringing disrepute to the Yoruba identity.


this is so bad of the Ooni

lost tribes of Israel . why do you say that?

There are several similarities from circumcision, the wearing of white to certain rituals.

Like I said....I'm not going to say you're wrong for feeling the way you do. I also question and still question how we gravitate to a faith not completely native to us. As an Ife Prince myself, I understand where you're coming from about that duality.

macof:


you are just foolish yourself.

the Ooni has just embarrassed himself, take for instance the african descendants wishing to return to their roots whom he met with the aim of building bonds with them will be so displeased and disgusted

he needs to get his act right and stop insulting the yoruba tradition

You still pushing this lie that he spoke about Christ to the black diaspora but not at a Nigerian church?

He spoke about tenets of Ifa to the African decendants. I have the film. Stop it bro.

TRUTHSURE:
one cannot serve two masters at the same time. One cannot be a traditionalist and at the same time, a christian.

Food for thought.

I can honestly say that I too have long questioned this dynamic. My father was an Ife Prince that grew up in the palace with Oba Aderemi. Asking him about this duality I was uncomfortable with he said "well everyone calls themselves Christian but when shit hits the fan, we all go back to the source of the Yoruba faith."

I still get much of the angst in here. But I find it easier to absorb believing we are one of the lost tribes talked about in the bible.

macof:
you are trying to act smarter than you really are

I asked " what use is an Ooni if he goes around preaching Jesus?"

note that "if" is conditional. He must be thought that few moves he has been making are wrong for an Ooni, he can send representatives to preach on his behalf as he likes; in whatever motive, could be to foster unity but for him crowned as the Arole oodua preaching jesus should not be left unaddressed

This shouldn't be too difficult to understand and give a fitting response

Why bother his tying his message to African Americans to him bringing up Jesus?

That's what you did. He said no such thing during his Diasporan outreach

macof:



did he preach Jesus in church? yes or no? if yes why should ooni insult the throne in such manner?

that is what we should talk about


nobody on this thread is interested with the odunde festival or Maryland economic forum...those are subjects of another discuss

You're moving goalposts now. You went from him going around preaching jesus to now did he say it in a church. Make up your mind and read your own words. I spoke on that going around you brought up.

macof:


but speak the truth! what use is an Ooni if he goes around preaching Jesus? What concerns Jesus with yoruba?

whether he attends a conference with African Americans or a church with Nigerians it changes nothing about his duty to the throne. .. which is to be the custodian and defender of the Yoruba culture and traditions in the same way the queen of England is the custodian of the English culture and defender of the Anglican faith

at least he unlike sijuwade is involved in Yoruba traditions...I saw him preside over the Olokun festival


we don't need pastors or imams as Obas. ..it is better for that throne to be vacant for all eternity than to Insult the ancestors with all these nonsense foreign religions that exist only to eliminate our identity as Africans.

This trip was nothing but him preaching Jesus?

Do you know the number of speeches he made? They were all about preaching Jesus? Are you serious? you make up your own truth and run with it. Is that how it works? He was preaching Jesus in front of the congressional black caucus? At MoCADA? At Odunde? At Columbia Univsersity? At the African Union? At the economic forum in Maryland?

Lol...you dudes stay beating your own drum.

Vanquay16:
His trip benefitted the US economy and Yoruba Diaspora but I am not sure how it improves the life of his immediate subjects..


Next time sit yo ass down.

You're not sure but expect to immediately know after he touched down? Lol

scully95:
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when foolishness overides madness, what is wrong is wrong and what is right is right... no matter where you go to and come back. what is wrong will continue to remain wrong. i will never ever bow to any pressure or surrender my tradition to a foreign one or a mere paper god.

never after all these zioist bastards are doing and continue doing against the great people of africa..

you come here sharing another foolish video. i did not even bother to click it.

i will forever stand against what is wrong, and stand in favour of what is right.. irrespective of the brainwash in average ppl's mind.

your future is stolen from you, your brain is being enslaved and this continued..

for how long are you going to keep living in denial ...

i will continue to stand up against oppresion cos this is height of oppression..

i wont reply your junks again cos it seems to me you a deff and dumb that continue living in denial..

That's cool my dude....to each his own. You're going to leave this thread as you came in. I'm not changing your mind nor do I care to try. But you ARE wrong in saying that he spoke Jesus in front of African American crowds. I was there and put together the forum and am here to tell you you're wrong...you wont admit it and as in your last post, moved on from that make believe to get back on your hating horse. I'm in the states and have a king that I know will work with folks here to expand our culture and foster ties, both economic and spiritual. You're in the nairaland forum prophesizing my alleged future and playing armchair psychologist diagnosing my denial of a future yet to be. You're on YouTube comments section spitting more anger about video you in here say you didn't even watch!! Lol!!!

What's real here, bro? How immature are you?

Of course you don't care about the crowd. Context is your enemy and you produced a clip of an Ooni speaking to non black Americans about Jesus after quoting someone who claimed that he was.

I wouldn't give a damn too if my point was wrong and I was one who can't admit fail on the Internet.

But here you are, speaking for black Americans and what their expectations are and an Ooni that spoke to them in your absence. LOL


lady Tyrell says it best about folks like you that don't know jack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF3pLjxaHaM

scully95:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7ojDcNlZ7Y

the son of omo ale..

this is why i love and i will only respecr oluibadan..

see the madman in the position of ooni. i can disrespect ooni but this mad man is not my ooni..
foreign god is his father.. the height of all madness in ile ife.

Who is the crowd that he spoke to in your clip? Black American and West Indian?

He spoke to black American and West Indian crowds twice on this trip. Both times he spoke on the tenants of Ifa. You showed him at a Nigerian church and married it to an axe you likely carried into this thread to grind long before this thread came into existence.


Try context.

I'm happy his my Ooni. I'm happy as an Ife man to now walk past a palace I once saw as a relic of the past and now see it as a future of possibility.

princey83:

I was embarrased watching how he kept moving from one local government council in the US to another to receive certificates from mayors(eauivalent to LG chairmen) and councellors. A whole Ooni of Ife, Arole Oduduwa.

I also didnt like the way he kept preaching jesus almost everywhere he visited and not receiving the honour a king of his calibre was meant to receive.
Yet he tries to blend traditional religion with white mans religion. He seems confused.

The black americans he met were trying to connect to their roots and yoruba gods, but the Ooni went to the US preaching about white man's religion. The same religion the white man used in justifying the enslavement of their ansecstors for hundred of years.

They need to sit him in the palace and tutor him how tradition works.

The amount of money (which belongs to the people of ife) spent on logistics, renting of limousines, feeding, airline fees, hotels, sight seeing e.t.c running into 100 of millions of naira spent on tickets for everyone on his entourage including his pangolo musicians would have gone a long way if invested in Ife.

Maybe now that he is back in the country, the palace chief can send him to benin, agbor or kano for proper tutelage on how to be a king.

Princey...here is a forum I put together with the Ooni and black American and West Indian Yoruba followers and those wanting to know their heritage. Care to tell me where you heard him talking Jesus ?

Were you here to say what he was talking about when speaking to black Americans and west Indians? I didn't even air the part where he talks about Ifa.

Those that know the least talk the most



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDGhfPRQKwA

Why is it that non-Ife folks are doing the most whining?
Anyone care to know how we in Ife think about him or do you prefer continue to be our unpaid and unsolicited spokesman?

livhorgng:
Let's learn to tell the TRUTH a King ought NOT to be a traveler point and blank. Let the World come to him/her for advice etc.

Trash.

He left here with more than he came, which will be a benefit to Ife and Yoruba culture. I personally have something I'm working on in the future that will hopefully involve his input to help further solidify the strengthening of our culture here in the states among the diaspora....the STRONGEST surviving culture out of all black African cultures that left our shores during the middle passage.

I thank him for taking part of my program here and taking the time out to answer questions asked of him from the diaspora. To see an African American state senator speaking Yoruba as he handed our King a declaration for Yoruba Day in New York was a blessing.

Long live our king and he being a torch to light the black world ablaze while you sit here beating your fingers to the keyboard complaining.

Now on to the business of building Olokun Park, a healthcare island and bettering our city.