₦airaland Forum

anonimi:
Where in my comments did I make such an allegation to warrant you asking me for proof?
Please point that out.
Thanks.

no wahala. lets not misunderstand each other

i just dont like it when yorubas start mocking igbos to go back home when it was them that paid the ultimate sacrifice and wasted so many other lives just to force igbos to remain with them. its annoyingly HYPOCRITICAL

anonimi:
Why are you confused and trying vainly to spread your confusion to others.
The SW is not the same as the Fulani Republic of Naijeriya, FRN.
The evidence I requested clearly in my earlier message is that thye fought the war:

1. knowingly
2. willingly
3. of their own accord.

Looking forward to seeing your evidence when you find it.

SW is part of the FRN that fought and forced the igbos to stay in FRN and the SW
u should also give me evidence that igbos are staying in SW or FRN willingly, knowingly and of their own accord.

how can u say i should give u evidence that soldiers fought war on their own accord? am I on the soldiers mind?
but what is clear and what i know is that SW soldiers fought to force igbos to stay in the SW

anonimi:
Did the soldiers do so knowingly, willingly [b]and of their own accord?
Do you have evidence of that?

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what evidence ? - so u mean no yoruba soldier died to force igbos remain in the SW

so all of u yorubas saying igbos should go back to their jungle should also note that our staying in the SW and lagos is not also our own accord

YorubaKing:
Now, I can see you're talking out of ya anus...

u are now confused thats why u are using insults

were u not the one saying igbos should get out of ur land as if its their fault that they found themselves in ur land

u should rather blame the yoruba soldiers that died while fighting so that igbos can remain in the SW

... iranu - oshi

YorubaKing:
I can't comprehend a word you just wrote up there.

i said more than 30, 000 yorubamen/soldiers died to make sure igbos remain in the SW

YorubaKing:
Fvck no! They're not wanted here... we're only tolerating them. We're too civilized for their savagery.

but why were u people killing urselves to make sure they remain with u
do u know how many yoruba soldiers lost their lives to make sure igbos remain in the SW and nigeria?

YorubaKing:
To do what exactly? How many Oyinbo pple you dey see for 9ja?

Yoruba na una God, no be by mouth!

how?

YorubaKing:
Good. Hopefully they can all go back to their jungle!

go back where?
one nigeria we voted for

i am just tired of nigerias matter

another one

NPA, NNPC, FIRS - i am not surprised
as far as i am concerned these people are the most educated and sophisticated nigerians
they have dethroned the sophisticators

HopeAtHand:
They refer to us as Igbo because of the similarity if names. but every such reference is done in error and we are quick to correct and reassure people that we aren't Igbo. It isn't actually a difficult task. very easy.

apart from names , ur looks also betrays u
u dont need to tell them ur name before they know u are igbo

i recently went to a wedding i sat among other tribes - when they were doing their traditional greeting they by passed me
the woman who didnt know me before then later told me that i dont look like one of them that i looked igbo - i just smiled

given ur stand, i am now imagining the kind of energy and stress an ikwerreman would will have put up to disclaim that comment
any way , just airing my opinions- i rest my case

HopeAtHand:
Political expediency or not, Ikwerre have acquired a unique sociopolitical identity. Even if it means mutilating the Igbo language to arrive at our, we will gladly do it.

Like I already maintained, water don't cross bridge for dis mata.

the question i want ask u is :
why is it that people refer to u as igbo before u start explaining urself that u are not igbo
how many people will u be explaining to?
is it not better u accept the obvious identity and move on

other parts of rivers state refer to u people as igbos - am i lieing?

HopeAtHand:
Political expediency or not, Ikwerre have acquired a unique sociopolitical identity. Even if it means mutilating the Igbo language to arrive at our, we will gladly do it.

Like I already maintained, water don't cross bridge for dis mata.

ok i rest my case but the part of mutilating the igbo language is not possible. it has come to stay

dukeprince50:
Same culture and language is okay.
but the ikwerres do not look like Igbo's, ikwerres are dark in complexion, Igbo's are fair, not same geographical location, not the same food.
the only similarities is the language.
The kalabaris also dress like that and can dance very well but they are not Igbo's.
Okrika and Kalabari language is alike but they are not the same people, most people think okrika is Kalabari but they are not and Kalabari is not forcing them

u said only language what about the names
ikwerres are fair.
they are of the SE naturally not politically
its the same food - or is it tuwo or amala that is their staple food?
mr man if u have 95% similarities with a people u are part of them jare

the thing is that people all over the world like independence and recognition - it gives them self esteem and ego

HopeAtHand:
OK. Etche is also recognized as independent from Igbo. I know of Ogbakor Etche as the umbrella body then. If you guys want to join the mainstream Igbo, its all good. be assured of our best wishes.

i am not doubting all these recognitions just to create divisions as that is what will make SW and north happy. they are mainly for political expediencies

but naturally by culture and language - we are undivided

HopeAtHand:
Are you from Etche?

yes

HopeAtHand:
Water has already crossed the bridge.

We are now an officially recognized ethnicity from Nigerias 1970 constitution upwards. Be happy for us. It has always been what we wanted. We are still brothers tho.

its ok like that, i am happy for u
i am rivers too and we are somehow attached to the ikwerres , we use to be one LGA before until the seperation but nevertheless i still want to recognize myself as igbo which is what people call me from my looks, intonation and behavior even without knowing my name

jimyjames:
it was the imposter , with the moniker ikwerreson that claimed the reason ikweres have Igbo names and practice Igbo tradition is because their men married Igbo women and adopted Igbo names and tradition , just like davido named his son ifeanyi

ok , dont mind them they are so misguided. ifeanyi davido case is a one off and shouldnt be used to compare. its a statistical misfit

i am talking about an overwhelming igbo names and cultures in ikwerreland

HopeAtHand:
The major difference is the original history. Ikwerres are descendants of Iwhnrohna, son of Akalaka, a prince from the Old Benin empire.

While Igbo's are the descendants of Gad, a Jew, from Isreal.

ok just that?
but i told u that there is also an igbo migration version, there even exist an igala migration version that i have read

from ur version that means u people are benins
another ikwerre persons version that i know said they are igbos and they migrated from the igbos

but from what i am seeing i tend to believe the igbo version because of the overwhelming igbo names, igbo looks, igbo stature and cultures in ikwerreland
the traces of benin is so minute that its very hard to believe the benin version

obidark:
look how you dey talk....

if i marry a igbo babe and she gets pregnant and after the child is here,she says lets name the child emeka,ofcourse i will say,yes babe....

this scenario u painted is true , it can happen but it shouldn't be a widespread thing as it is in ikwerreland.
that means there is more to it not just marriage

obidark:
you in particular dont sound that smart to me....

its because u cant withstand me thats why u resort to insult

in nigeria what they refer to as smartness is being able to deceive and take advantage of peoples trust

HopeAtHand:
why will I want to spite Igbo's. I like them a lot. i just see myself as a different ethnicity from Igbo's, regardless of similar culture and language.

the same culture and language
the same looks, the same food, the same believes, the same geographical location so how then are u different

or can u state the differences?

obidark:
i cant reason with a ipobian....its a task that cant be done....

kiikii....

igbos are one of the most intelligent people
if u cant reason with an igbo then u are below standard

HopeAtHand:
Who is "we".

Please Ikwerre is Ikwerre, Igbo is Igbo. If in doubt, check the Nigerian constitution.

Peace.

but u claim non igbo just to spite the igbo

the question i have for u is:
why does the non igbo riverine people refer to u people as igbos during elections and they even use it as campaign against u in elections
they mostly refer to u people as " that igbo man" even though u have been asked to claim otherwise
u can just keep deceiving urselves just to please the SW and north

jimyjames:
you imposter I can't read this long trash you wrote up there, make it shorter with points without sentiment, Igbo as an ethic group has minority tribes who speak igbiod dialects namely , epkeye, ika , enuani, izzi,ikwo, ezza, mgbo, and ogba , all these igbiod tribes are found in Delta, Rivers state, enonyi and Edo

bring up facts that this tribes and not igbiod tribes , am waiting pls make it short

if you claim the reason ikweres have Igbo names and practice Igbo tradition is by just mere marriage, then I can claim igbos got married to ikweres and corrupted the Igbo language or can you proof is the other way round?

so because u married igbo women thats why u bear igbo names - hmnm
so u mean in ikwerreland it is the wives that gives the children their names
but ikwerres got married to other tribes too why are the children not bearing the names of those tribes and why didnt other tribes corrupt the ikwerres too since they are vulnerable to being corrupted

obidark:
chai....its like talkin to a break wall....

it doesnt matter....keep this delusions online....
dont go around on the streets claimin stuffs....very bad idea....

mr brick wall
u have not said any thing as far am concerned
you have not been able to proof me wrong apart subtle abuse

the bible says "come lets reason together"
we are reasoning here so let me hear ur own submissions that counters what i said and not just to rain abuses and be claiming cleverness

IkwerreSon:
The mumu don’t even know about we the Ikwerre People, our history traced to Benin and you’re here arguing. Lol

there are different versions, there is also the igbo migration version
u can choose to believe any of the versions

btw, i keep hearing that so many people including the people from onitsha, ikwerre, etche, urhobo etc migrated from benin kingdom according to pundits
my only wonder is why they didnt go along with the benin language because this language is only spoken in the benin city/kingdom and not a widespread language the way they make people believe that everybody migrated from there

how come people that migrated from benin will tend to speak igbo that they didnt migrate from.
but how come the igbo language is a more widespread language than benin

Afamed:
Attache by force,the message is clear enough. # No to land grabbers

but why are u people from the SW and North so concerned about tribes and clans in the east
are u the ones that will define who we are?
u people are always happy that the quarrel and fight u set out for the SE region to divide us is working out, if not why are u always happy when there seems to be division
what do u people stand to benefit if other igbos claim they are not igbos because i keep wondering what ur benefits are

immhotep:
But Ikwerre = Igbo
Just like Owerri = Igbo

adding:
mbaise = igbo
mgbidi = igbo
mbano = igbo
obowo = igbo
item = igbo
abakiliki = igbo

therefore ikwerre is a subset of igbo just like others

webngnews:
We are so wicked we in the Southwest how can Dss held a man for no unjustifiable reasons and top political office holders from the southwest are watching

do u want them to loose 2023 presidency?
they have made up their mind to support any evil

[quote author= post=84677045]Where exactly is Yele at the moment?!

We need to know please.

We keep reading different stories and seeing different pictures at different locations all day.

All we want is to see him before Mama Yele by Xmas.....that is if he is not calling for war and revolution anymore after the Ministers were named and his name was missing, the same person that was among the first set of people that congratulated 'Bubu' after the election.


Hmmmmm, this is deep!

Perhaps...........[/quote]what is HABA, as if u are not happy
is this not what our darling daddy promised us in 2015?
this is change
our darling daddy is currently washing off dirts from our darling nigerian flag. And this is one of it

where are the "national interest supersedes rule of law crew" - u will begin to wonder at the kinds of statements that comes out from supposedly educated people in this country - even lawyers that prides themselves with the slogan "my learned colleague"

i wonder how we can run a democracy without rule of law - if so the president becomes an absolute monarchy by default as in the olden days because he alone will rule the nation by being the chief judge, chief law maker, and also the chief executioner of his own laws which is what democracy has come to abolish by giving us the 'Separation of powers principle"

but why are we really dragging ourselves backwards with full force