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 Christianity Etc › More Trouble For Polytheists Trinitarians!!! by bingbagbo(op): 9:16am On May 10, 2015 |
Three of the four gospel accounts contain a reference to the statement made by Jesus concerning blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. These three passages read as follows. Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks[b] a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him;[/b] but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:31-32). Assuredly, I say to you, a[b]ll sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation—because they said, “He has an unclean spirit”[/b] (Mark 3:28-30). And a[b]nyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven[/b] (Luke 12:10). NOW TRINITARIANS SAY GOD IS MADE up OF THREE DISTINCT PERSONS, NAMELY[b] GOD THE FATHER,[/b] GOD THE SON [/b]AND [b]GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT By inference, they say GOD THE FATHER IS A DISTINCT PERSON FROM GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT, SO ARE THEY SAYING GOD THE FATHER YHWH IS NO LONGER A SPIRIT? (JOHN 4:24). OR ARE THEY SAYING GOD THE FATHER IS NOT HOLY?...NOW IF THEY AGREE THAT GOD THE FATHER IS HOLY AND A SPIRIT, THEN HE IS NO OTHER PERSON THAN THE HOLY SPIRIT. IF THEY DENY, THEN THEY ARE IN A DEEPER MESS. AGAIN, IF GOD THE FATHER IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT, THEN IT IMPLIES BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD THE FATHER WILL BE FORGIVEN NB: THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY WAS CREATED IN AD 352 BY A ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE. REMEMBER, THIS WAS DON 4 GOOD CENTURIES AFTER JESUS' HAD BEEN CRUCIFIED. OPEN YOUR EYES MY BROTHERS. TRINITARIANS, PLEASE EXPLAIN THESE SCRIPTURES, SINCE YOU DENY JESUS CHRIST IS THE FATHER 1. Colossians 1:16 " For[b] by him were all things created,[/b] that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" 2. John 1:10 "John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not." 3. John 14:8-9 Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 4. Revelations 4:2-3 " At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian. A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne." I could go on and on and on and on JESUS CHRIST IS THE FATHER |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 8:52am On May 10, 2015 |
Scholar8200:lol  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 10:00pm On May 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200:WHO IS HE? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 8:33pm On May 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200:so which father again did Jesus reveal? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 6:59pm On May 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200:what did Jesus imply? be bold and state it clearly |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 6:34pm On May 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200:i give you the benefit of the doubt, what did JESUS imply in that verse?  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 6:10pm On May 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200: are u saying that JESUS lied in saying HOW CAN YOU ASK ME TO SHOW YOU THE FATHER?....I THE FATHER HAVE BEEN WITH YOU FOR LONG....DID JESUS LIE? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 5:49pm On May 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200:i Mean what is the meaning of the verses i quoted? JESUS CLEARLY SAID HE WAS THE FATHER,....DO YOU DOUBT THAT? 1 Like |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:45pm On May 09, 2015 |
Many people have lied for personal gain. In fact, the motivation of most lies is some perceived benefit to oneself. What could Jesus have hoped to gain from lying about his identity? Power would be the most obvious answer. If people believed he was God, he would have tremendous power. (That is why many ancient leaders, such as the Caesars, claimed divine origin.) The rub with this explanation is that Jesus shunned all attempts to move him in the direction of seated power, instead chastising those who abused such power and lived their lives pursuing it. He also chose to reach out to the outcasts (prostitutes and lepers), those without power, creating a network of people whose influence was less than zero. In a way that could only be described as bizarre, all that Jesus did and said moved diametrically in the other direction from power. It would seem that if power was Jesus’ motivation, he would have avoided the cross at all costs. Yet, on several occasions, he told his disciples that the cross was his destiny and mission. How would dying on a Roman cross bring one power? Death, of course, brings all things into proper focus. And while many martyrs have died for a cause they believed in, few have been willing to die for a known lie. Certainly all hopes for Jesus’ own personal gain would have ended on the cross. Yet, to his last breath, he would not relinquish his claim of being the unique Son of God. New Testament scholar, J. I. Packer, points out that this title asserts Jesus’ personal deity. |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:44pm On May 09, 2015 |
ven Jesus’ harshest critics rarely have called him a liar. That label certainly doesn’t fit with Jesus’ high moral and ethical teaching. But if Jesus isn’t who he claimed to be, we must consider the option that he was intentionally misleading everyone. One of the best-known and most influential political works of all time was written by Niccolò Machiavelli in 1532. In his classic, The Prince, Machiavelli exalts power, success, image, and efficiency above loyalty, faith, and honesty. According to Machiavelli, lying is okay if it accomplishes a political end. Could Jesus Christ have built his entire ministry upon a lie just to gain power, fame, or success? In fact, the Jewish opponents of Jesus were constantly trying to expose him as a fraud and liar. They would barrage him with questions in attempts to trip him up and make him contradict himself. Yet Jesus responded with remarkable consistency. The question we must deal with is: What could possibly motivate Jesus to live his entire life as a lie? He taught that God was opposed to lying and hypocrisy, so he wouldn’t have been doing it to please his Father. He certainly didn’t lie for his followers’ benefit, since all but one were martyred rather than renouncing his Lordship (see “Did the Apostles believe Jesus is God?” . And so we are left with only two other reasonable explanations, each of which is problematic. |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:43pm On May 09, 2015 |
Certainly there are those who accept Jesus as a great teacher, yet are unwilling to call him God. As a Deist, we’ve seen that Thomas Jefferson had no problem accepting Jesus’ teachings on morals and ethics while denying his deity.[20] But as we’ve said, and will explore further, if Jesus was not who he claimed to be, then we must examine some other alternatives, none of which would make him a great moral teacher. Lewis, argued, “I am trying here to prevent anyone from saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say.”[21] In his quest for truth, Lewis knew that he could not have it both ways with the identity of Jesus. Either Jesus was who he claimed to be—God in the flesh—or his claims were false. And if they were false, Jesus could not be a great moral teacher. He would either be lying intentionally or he would be a lunatic with a God complex. |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:41pm On May 09, 2015 |
Some have argued that Jesus was only claiming to be part of God. But the idea that we are all part of God, and that within us is the seed of divinity, is simply not a possible meaning for Jesus’ words and actions. Such thoughts are revisionist, foreign to his teaching, foreign to his stated beliefs, and foreign to his disciples’ understanding of his teaching. Jesus taught that he is God in the way the Jews understood God and the way the Hebrew Scriptures portrayed God, not in the way the New Age movement understands God. Neither Jesus nor his audience had been weaned on Star Wars, and so when they spoke of God, they were not speaking of cosmic forces. It’s simply bad history to redefine what Jesus meant by the concept of God. Lewis explains, Now let us get this clear. Among Pantheists, like the Indians, anyone might say that he was a part of God, or one with God….But this man, since He was a Jew, could not mean that kind of God. God, in their language, meant the Being outside the world, who had made it and was infinitely different from anything else. And when you have grasped that, you will see that what this man said was, quite simply, the most shocking thing that has ever been uttered by human lips |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:40pm On May 09, 2015 |
Jesus’ usage of God’s name greatly angered the religious leaders. The point is that these Old Testament scholars knew exactly what he was saying—he was claiming to be God, the Creator of the universe. It is only this claim that would have brought the accusation of blasphemy. To read into the text that Jesus claimed to be God is clearly warranted, not simply by his words, but also by their reaction to those words. C. S. Lewis initially considered Jesus a myth. But this literary genius who knew myths well, concluded that Jesus had to have been a real person. Furthermore, as Lewis investigated the evidence for Jesus, he became convinced that not only was Jesus real, but he was unlike any man who had ever lived. Lewis writes, “Then comes the real shock,’ wrote Lewis: ‘Among these Jews there suddenly turns up a man who goes about talking as if He was God. He claims to forgive sins. He says He always existed. He says He is coming to judge the world at the end of time.”[18] To Lewis, Jesus’ claims were simply too radical and profound to have been made by an ordinary teacher or religious leader. (For a more in-depth look at Jesus’ claim to deity, see “Did Jesus Claim to be God?” |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:38pm On May 09, 2015 |
Before we examine Jesus’ claims, it is important to understand that he made them in the context of the Jewish belief in one God (monotheism). No faithful Jew would ever believe in more than one God. And Jesus believed in the one God, praying to his Father as, “the only true God.”[9] But in that same prayer, Jesus spoke of having always existed with his Father. And when Philip asked Jesus to show them the Father, Jesus said, “Philip, have I been with you so long and you don’t know me? Whoever has seen me, has seen the Father.”[10] So the question is: “Was Jesus claiming to be the Hebrew God who created the universe?” Jesus continually referred to himself in ways that confounded his listeners. As Piper notes, Jesus made the audacious statement, “Before Abraham was, I AM.”[11] He told Martha and others around her, “I AM the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me, though he is dead, yet shall he live.”[12] Likewise, Jesus would make statements like, “I AM the light of the world,”[13] “I AM the only way to God,”[14] or, “I AM the “truth.”[15] These and several other of his claims were preceded by the sacred words for God, “I AM” (ego eimi)[16]. What did Jesus mean by such statements, and what is the significance of the term, “I AM”? Once again, we must go back to context. In the Hebrew Scriptures, when Moses asked God His name at the burning bush, God answered, “I AM.” He was revealing to Moses that He is the one and only God who is outside of time and has always existed. Incredibly, Jesus was using these holy words to describe himself. The question is, “Why?” Since the time of Moses, no practicing Jew would ever refer to himself or anyone else by “I AM.” As a result, Jesus’ “I AM” claims infuriated the Jewish leaders. One time, for example, some leaders explained to Jesus why they were trying to kill him: “Because you, a mere man, have made yourself God.”[17] |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:34pm On May 09, 2015 |
ohn Piper explains that Jesus claimed power which uniquely belonged to God. “…Jesus’ friends and enemies were staggered again and again by what he said and did. He would be walking down the road, seemingly like any other man, then turn and say something like, ‘Before Abraham was, I am.’ Or, ‘If you have seen me, you have seen the Father.’ Or, very calmly, after being accused of blasphemy, he would say, [b]‘The Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.’ [/b]To the dead he might simply say, ‘Come forth,’ or, ‘Rise up.’ And they would obey. To the storms on the sea he would say, ‘Be still.’ And to a loaf of bread he would say, ‘Become a thousand meals.’ And it was done immediately.”[7] But what did Jesus really mean by such statements? Is it possible Jesus was merely a prophet like Moses or Elijah, or Daniel? Even a superficial reading of the Gospels reveals that Jesus claimed to be someone more than a prophet. No other prophet had made such claims about himself; in fact, no other prophet ever put himself in God’s place. Some argue that Jesus never explicitly said, “I am God.” It is true that he never stated the exact words, “I am God.” However, Jesus also never explicitly said, “I am a man,” or “I am a prophet.” Yet Jesus was undoubtedly human, and his followers considered him a prophet like Moses and Elijah. So we cannot rule out Jesus being divine just because he didn’t say those exact words, anymore than we can say he wasn’t a prophet. In fact, Jesus’ statements about himself contradict the notion that he was simply a great man or a prophet. On more than one occasion, Jesus referred to himself as God’s Son. When asked whether he thought it far-fetched for Jesus to be the Son of God, lead singer of U2, Bono, answered: “No, it’s not far-fetched to me. Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: He was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets,… But actually Christ doesn’t allow you that. He doesn’t let you off the hook. Christ says, No. I’m not saying I’m a teacher, don’t call me a teacher. I’m not saying I’m a prophet….I’m saying I’m God incarnate.” And people say: No, no, please, just be a prophet. A prophet we can take. |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 5:27pm On May 09, 2015 |
All religions provide instruction for a way of living. But it is only Jesus who offers deliverance, forgiveness for sin, and transformation. “Jesus did not only teach or expound His message. He was identical with His message.”[5] The truth of Zacharias’ point is underscored by the number of times in the Gospels that Jesus’ teaching message was simply “Come to me” or “Follow me” or “Obey me.” Also, Jesus made it clear that his primary mission was to forgive sins, something only God could do. In The World’s Great Religions, Huston Smith observed that of all religious leaders only Jesus claimed to be divine.[6] And that leads us to the question of what Jesus really did claim for himself; specifically, did Jesus claim to be God? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 5:23pm On May 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200:DEVIATION!!!!......stick to that verse |
| Christianity Etc › TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 4:45pm On May 09, 2015 |
JOHN 14 :8-9 Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THIS VERSE  ? |
| Jokes Etc › Bin Gbagbo, The Undisputed King Of Jokes Section....blockbuster!!! by bingbagbo(op): 4:34pm On May 09, 2015 |
Kwaata's daughter, Erimma was not doing well at school, So he hired a home teacher for her, the Teacher was Mr OGBUVUGBUVU. mR OGBUVUGBUVU asked Kwaata which subjects he will teach Erimma and Kwaata replied "all subjects" After six months, Kwaata found out that Erimma was pregnant, so he asked her and she confessed it was MR OGBUVUGBUVU who was responsible. "So where did he make you pregnant?" Kwaata asked Errimma replied "Daddy in the garden!!" grin Kwaata was angry, so he summoned MR OGBUVGBUVU. Kwaata: mr man, what did i employ u for? MR OGBUVUBGUVU: That's a steewpid question, u know i teach Kwaata: Who made Erimma pregnant? MR OGBUVUGBUVU: Another steewpid one, u know it me Kwwaata: listen, was that part of the teaching work? MR OGBUVUGBUVU: of course, remember, u asked me to teach all subjects? so i taught her all....besides when last did you pay me?..i had to compensate myself with your daughter . Now tell me oga Kwaata, who is responsible for " drupy", the family dog's pregnancy? Kwaata: Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! we can settle this amicably now sah Erimma miscarried instantly |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 1 Corinthians Chapter 6!!! A Daily Recitation by bingbagbo(op): 8:14pm On May 08, 2015 |
1Co 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 1Co 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? [/b]no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 1Co 6:6 But [b]brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. ... |
| Jokes Etc › Re: Amazing!!!...how To Grow Back Your Fallen Permanent Teeth!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 9:40am On May 08, 2015 |
izuch:ONE!! |
| Jokes Etc › Amazing!!!...how To Grow Back Your Fallen Permanent Teeth!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 9:20am On May 08, 2015 |
1. Wash your mouth very well with petrol 2. Rinse your lips with petrol 3. After about 3 hours, Soak your mouth with petrol for about 2 more hours 4. Thoroughly wash your beard (if you have), mustache and eyebrows, including eyelashes with petrol 5. Get into your kitchen and lock it 6. Turn on your Gas cylinder 7. Rest your head gently on your burner 8. Light a match to turn on your burner 9. Remember not to shout 10. IF YOU DONT GROW YOUR TEETH BACK, CALL ME BASKARD
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| Jokes Etc › Re: Pls Help Caption This Hillarious PHOTO - WIERD POSTURE by bingbagbo(m): 9:07am On May 08, 2015 |
girl in grave |
| Christianity Etc › 1 Corinthians Chapter 6!!! A Daily Recitation by bingbagbo(op): 9:05am On May 08, 2015 |
1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? ... |
| Sports › Adebayor In An Emotional Facebook Post About His Family by bingbagbo(op): 8:21pm On May 06, 2015 |
Revelations: Adebayor reveals harrowing details of rift with his family, especially his mother Togo and Tottenham Hotspurs striker, Emmanuel Sheyi Adebayor has once claimed that his own mother and relatives have been plotting 'juju. Many people came after him for making such declarations. In a Facebook post, he revealed details of the issues between his mother and family. ... I have kept these stories for a long time but I think today it is worth sharing some of them with you. It's true that family matters should be solved internally and not in public but I am doing this so that hopefully all families can learn from what happened in mine. Also keep in mind that none of this is about money. At the age of 17, with my first wages as a footballer, I built a house for my family and made sure they are safe. As you all know, I have received the trophy of African Player of the Year in 2008. I also brought my mother on stage with me to thank her for everything. In that same year, I brought her to London for various medical check ups. When my daughter was born, we contacted my mum to inform her but she immediately hung up the phone and didn't wanna know hear about it. Reading your recent comments, some people said my family and I should consult T.B Joshua. In 2013, I gave my mother money so she could consult him in Nigeria. She was supposed to stay for 1 week; but 2 days into her stay, I received a call saying she left. Apart from all that l also gave my mother a great amount of money to start a business of cookies and different items. Naturally, I allowed them to put my name and picture on them so they can sell more. What else can a son do in his power to support his family? A couple years ago, I bought a house in East Lagon (Ghana) for $1.2 million. I found it normal to let my older sister, Yabo Adebayor stay in that house. I also allowed my half brother (Daniel) to stay in the same house. A few months later, I was on vacation and decided to go to that house. At my surprise, I saw many cars in the driveway. In fact, my sister decided to rent out the house without me knowing. She also kicked Daniel out of that house. Note that the house had about 15 rooms. When I called her and asked for explanation, she took about 30 minutes to abuse and insult me over the phone. I called my mother to explain the situation and she did the same as my sister. This same sister says I am ungrateful. Ask her about the car she is driving or anything she is selling today? My brother Kola Adebayor, has now been in Germany for 25 years. He travelled back home about 4 times, at my expense. I fully cover the cost of his children's education. When I was in Monaco, he came to me and asked for money to start a business. Only God knows how much I gave him. Where is that business today? When our brother Peter passed away, I sent Kola a great amount of money so he could fly back home. He never showed up at the burial. And today that same brother (Kola) is telling people that I am involved in Peter's death. How? He is the same brother who went and told inaccurate stories about our family to "The Sun" in other to take some money. They also sent a letter to my Club when I was in Madrid so I could get fired. When I was in Monaco I thought it would be good to have a family of footballers. So I made sure my brother Rotimi gets into a football academy in France. Within a few months; out of 27 players, he stole 21 phones. I would not say any anything about my brother Peter Adebayor because he is not here today. May his soul rest in peace. My sister Lucia Adebayor keeps telling people that my dad told me to bring her to Europe. But what would be the purpose to bring her to Europe ? Everyone is here for a reason. I was in Ghana when I received the news about my brother Peter being seriously ill. I drove the fastest I could to Togo in order to meet him and help. When I arrived, my mother said I could not see him and I should just give the money and she would solve everything. Only God knows how much I gave her that day. People are saying I didn't do anything to save my brother, Peter. Am I a fool to drive 2 hours to Togo for nothing? I organized a meeting in 2005 to solve our family issues. When I asked them about their opinion, they said I should build each family member a house and give each of them a monthly wage. Today I am still alive and they have already shared all my goods, just in case I die. For all these reasons, it took very long for me to set up my foundation in Africa. Every time I try to help the people in need, they had to question me and all of them thought it was a bad idea. If I am writing this, the main purpose is not to expose my family members. I just want other African families to learn from this. Thank you. SOURCE: https://www.facebook.com/joy997fm/posts/10153245484191894:0
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| Christianity Etc › Re: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 7:35pm On May 06, 2015 |
johnw74: a real confused man right hereJohn 14:7–9 8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? lHe who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? JESUS IS CLEARLY TELLING YOU HE IS THE FATHER, YET YOU SAY NO, JESUS I DONT BELIEVE YOU. I RATHER BELIEVE CONSTANTINE. PATHETIC!!! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 8:08am On May 06, 2015 |
In his first two books (De trinitatis erroribus, and Dialogues on the Trinity plus the supplementary De Iustitia Regni Christi) Servetus rejected the classical conception of the Trinity, stating that it was not based on the Bible. He argued that[b] it arose from teachings of Greek philosophers, and he advocated a return to the simplicity of the Gospels and the teachings of the early Church Fathers that he believed pre-dated the development of Nicene trinitarianism[/b]. Servetus hoped that the dismissal of the trinitarian dogma would make Christianity more appealing to believers in Judaism and Islam, which had preserved the unity of God in their teachings. According to Servetus, trinitarians had turned Christianity into a form of "tritheism", or belief in three gods. Servetus affirmed that the divine Logos, the manifestation of God and not a separate divine Person, was incarnated in a human being, Jesus, when God's spirit came into the womb of the Virgin Mary. Only from the moment of conception was the Son actually generated. Therefore, although the Logos from which He was formed was eternal, the Son was not Himself eternal. For this reason, Servetus always rejected calling Christ the "eternal Son of God" but rather called him "the Son of the eternal God." NOTE: On October 27, 1553 John Calvin, the founder of Calvinism, had Michael Servetus, the Spanish physician, burned at the stake just outside of Geneva for his doctrinal beliefs! Remember calvin himself was a trinitarian who interestingly submitted this quote about the trinity Calvin states: If, therefore, these terms [traditional trinitarian terms] were not rashly invented, we ought to beware lest by repudiating them we be accused of overweening rashness. Indeed, I could wish they were buried, if only among all men this faith were agreed on: that Father and Son and Spirit are one God, yet the Son is not the Father, nor the Spirit the Son, but that they are differentiated by a peculiar quality OPEN YOUR EYES |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 7:53am On May 06, 2015 |
Revelation 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one [/b]sat on the throne. NB: NOT 3 SAT ON THE THRONE, BECAUSE GOD IS ONE. PLAIN TRUTH John 4:22 [b]You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. OPEN YOUR EYES!!! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 7:43am On May 06, 2015 |
johnw74:see plain lies from a nigerian who doesnt even understand Greek all in the name of false doctrine of men, Rom. 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. 2 Pet. 1:1 To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ John 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known Mr Greek grammarian, you see your frustrations?...are the GOD in the verses above also kurios? 2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will[b] secretly[/b] introduce[b] destructive heresies,[/b] even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. open your eyes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 7:32am On May 06, 2015 |
johnw74:keep deceiving yourself on here you adherent of nicean creed presided over by an unbeliever 1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. Psalm 24:10 Who is this King of glory? Lord Jehovah of hosts, he is the venerable King to eternity! Open your spiritual eyes folks and dont be blinded by useless traditions of men |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 10:06pm On May 05, 2015 |
Scholar8200:pray! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by bingbagbo(op): 4:25pm On May 05, 2015 |
First, return to the Scriptures. Second, believe that God is one. Third, study the Scriptures that prove Messieh is God. Fourth, accept the authority of the Scriptures above the philosophers and deceivers of Rome and her daughters. Fifth, begin to confess your faith in the oneness of God by witnessing to others.
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