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johnw74:
Who is disbelieving scriptures you ask,
you are and you are so blinded you cannot see it,
try telling the truth for a change ,
you add lies to your disbelief, saying that I say no to the bolded, when I have always stated that, that is the truth.
I have always said that God is One, you lie like jw and all others that hold to false doctrines.
Three persons is not three gods,
but your saying that Jesus is the Father when even young children Know that Jesus is the son, is beyond ridiculous.
you cannot be honest like most Christians are, and say that Jesus is God, and not the person of the Father but the person of the Son.
You are caught up in your false doctrine and will go to hell along with it.



He certainly is, but He doesn't know you.
He is not the Father, He is the Son, He is the Word.
In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God (the Father)

You don't believe the scriptures and you change their meanings to suit your false beliefs.

johnw74:
An2elect2 is right, Jesus is God in bodily form,
Jesus is God the Word, not God the Father.
The Son is not the Father,
The Son and the Father is God, and they are two separate persons,
God and the Word,
Father and Son.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

God and the Word is God,
the Father and the Son is God.

Saying Jesus is the Father is ridiculous,
you have been blinded by God Himself for not Loving the Truth, but loving your own false teachings.

These apply to you as well.

Joh 12:40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, so that they should not see with their eyes nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them."

Joh 12:43 for they loved the glory of men more than the glory of God.

That's what false doctrine is all about, getting glory for yourself.

johnw74:
The Bible says the Father is God,
and Jesus is the Word,
bingbagbo says that Jesus is the Father,
he disbelieves the scriptures and changes what they say.

Rev_20:15 And if anyone was not found having been written in the Book of Life, he was cast into the Lake of Fire.

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and the unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, will have their part in the Lake burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

johnw74:
God and the Word speaking:


Gen 1:26 And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creepers creeping on the earth.

Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever,

Gen 11:7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they cannot understand one another's speech.

Psa 45:6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; the staff of Your kingdom is a staff of righteousness.
Psa 45:7 You love righteousness, and hate wickedness; therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness above Your fellows.

That is quoted in Heb. 1:8, "But of the Son He [God] says, “Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom."
The Jehovah's Witness Bible has it translated as "God is thy Throne forever and ever . .
But God is not a throne, God sits on a throne.


Persons of God in the New Testament:


Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when He had been baptized, went up immediately out of the water. And lo, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon Him.
Mat 3:17 And lo, a voice from Heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

The three persons of God at the same time.

Mat 28:19 Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Note: one name and three persons.

1Co 12:4 But there are differences of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are differences of workings, but it is the same God working all things in all.

Gifts are given by the Holy Spirit
Ministries are given by the Lord Jesus
They are the same God

2Co 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen.

Notice fellowship of the Holy Spirit,
jw don't have that of course, they think the Holy spirit is just a force,
He is a force of course, but not just a force, God indeed is a powerful force.

Jud 1:20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
Jud 1:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, eagerly awaiting the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to everlasting life.

nutarious:
you are 3 persons same you!

spirit+soul+body = you 1 PERSON


i think this should answer you.

johnw74:
It's bingbagbo that say's God is three persons in one person.
I say God is three persons in One God.


You so confused still.




And again and again jw doesn't believe the plain meaning of scriptures and want's to change and twist them around.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

And another thing, He is not a god,

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.




Wow, and all the times that I have given the Greek meaning to words in these forums, and Hebrew.

Do you know you once asked me, am I going to post more smilies to you?
it is someone else, ---Oops

Confusion reigns in jw town.



Must be impossible for jw to be truthful.

Tushkid74:
Nutarious / johnw74 do u guys have a problem with JW?

Sorry to say,some of ur posts are just...

Inbtw, Jesus was nailed/hanged to a tree/stake nt a cross

frank317:
Smh .. Nairaland has turned to a Haven for foools who lack simple reasoning capability.

Should I blame this sort of thinking on religion or our fast dying educational system?

tartar9:
'xtianity' and contradictions smh

An2elect2:
OP, AMEN!!!! TO THIS!!! JESUS IS GOD HIMSELF IN BODILY FORM. AMEN!!!

God made himself a part of "us" through Jesus!!!

odeotito:
But that's not soil - it's sweat!

johnw74:
Yes, and Jesus is the same as JEHOVAH because Jesus is the Word who is God, and the God of the Old Testament is JEHOVAH who is God, the same God yes, but two persons in the One God.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
God the Word was with God, two persons.

King David wrote: The LORD said unto my Lord, or God said to the Word (Jesus).

Psa 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Two persons in One God there.

Believe the scriptures, or not.
Believe the scriptures or believe yourself.



Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Pro 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Pro 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;


Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: ...
Two persons, One God. The Holy Spirit is a third person, but some couldn't possibly understand that.