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Ihedinobi3:
Of course, it was not us who appointed the Lord to save us. He chose to save us. [/b]When He made creation with us as a part of it, He had chosen us for salvation even then and that was because, as Romans 8 teaches us, He knew well before creating us that we would choose to be saved.

Please feel free to get born again if you want, my friend. But I've been born from above already. It is meaningless for me to seek anything more.

Acts 13:48
Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. [b]And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Ihedinobi3:
Not a single choice made anywhere in this world is made without God's say-so. The Lord knew us before He made us. He knew what we would want to choose. Therefore He made us with the ability and the opportunity to choose it. So, those whom God knew would want to be saved are those that He appointed to be saved.

And again, salvation is all God's work, not man's. So those who are born of God above are those who by their choice to believe took advantage of God's salvation in Christ Jesus. Doesn't mean that we don't make a choice. After all, it is to them that believe that power is given to become children of God, not to those who don't do anything at all.

As for my position in "church," I'm not sure what that means. I don't go to church in the traditional way. Those that might be called my church are a loose group of people scattered across the world, each person following the Lord according to their conscience as educated in the truth of God's Word. I am just one of them. When my own ministry as a pastor-teacher fully kicks off, maybe this position thing will make sense then.

Acts 13:48
Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.


Period!

Ihedinobi3:
Our God is good. He has not left us with confusion but has made His counsel abundantly clear. If the Lord "foreknew," then of course He knew beforehand who would choose for Him and who wouldn't, and those are the ones for whom He has designed creation to make sure that their choices for the Truth are not at all thwarted or prevented. This is why we have been given life and breath and everything we could possibly need so that we will seek after Him and find Him.

25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.
Acts 17:25-27 (NIV)

Predestination is merely the biblical concept that God has made sure that all those who want to be saved will be saved. Nothing will prevent them from being saved. But if anyone wants to be saved, then they must choose to believe in Jesus Christ according to the Gospel and they must retain that faith until the end of their earthly lives or else they will fall away and not be saved in the end. Since God knows all those who will choose to hold on to faith in Jesus Christ no matter what, He has structured creation so that nothing will prevent them from making the choice that they want to make. That is predestination.

John 15:16

[16] You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.

You must be born again bro

Ihedinobi3:
What more is there to say? Should the Lord Jesus have said something different to demonstrate that He and the Father were of one kind? Maybe the Scriptures could have put it some other way, but we do have other Scriptures to make sure that we don't fall into tly as written: the Lord Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all the same kind of Person. However things turn out with One is how they will turn out with the Other.

I have nothing more to say. As I said, please believe and teach what you like.

Acts 9:4-5

[4]Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?”

[5]And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”

You must be born again

Ihedinobi3:
This passage was addressed in my answer above. Obviously, salvation is not due to our work but due to God's. Thus, His Mercy is how we are saved. But we must choose whether to accept that mercy or reject it. [/b]Those who insist on providing their own salvation, like Cain and Esau did, are the ones willing and running and still missing out on salvation just like most of Israel were and are.

Acts 13:48
Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. [b]And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

The veil covering your heart is really thick!


John 1:12-13
[12]But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

[13] who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.


You must be born again, don't be deceived by your position in 'church'

Ihedinobi3:
This passage was addressed in my answer above. Obviously, salvation is not due to our work but due to God's. Thus, His Mercy is how we are saved. But we must choose whether to accept that mercy or reject it. [/b]Those who insist on providing their own salvation, like Cain and Esau did, are the ones willing and running and still missing out on salvation just like most of Israel were and are.

Romans 8:29-30

[29]For whom He foreknew, [b]He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

[30] [b]Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. [/b]God’s Everlasting Love

What are you talking about??

Ihedinobi3:
And, of course, since Jesus is God just like the Father is God, dealing with One is dealing with the Other. Seeing Jesus is seeing the Father. No one will get anything different from the Father than they would have got from Jesus. This still does not mean that the two are one person. It only means that they are the same kind of person.

As I said, don't worry about me. I am happy to teach what I have learned and let those who have ears hear. To be born again at this point would make it being born a third time. It sounds like apostasy to me. So I have no plan to accommodate it in my life. That is why I urged you not to bother to change my mind. My answers are not for you, because I don't believe you are looking for any answers. So please ignore me and continue to believe and teach what you like. The reward for that is between you and the Lord.

John 14:8-9

[8]Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”

[9]Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Ihedinobi3:
This passage above is actually one of the most explicit passages that teach that, contrary to the claims of the Jehovah's Witnesses sect, for example, the Holy Spirit is both a Person and is also God. The Greek word used here is kyrios which was also the New Testament term for the Hebrew YHWH in the Old Testament in addition to other things.

As we know, YHWH was vocalized adonai which is the word most commonly translated both "lord" and "master" in the Old Testament in English versions of the Bible. So the use of kyrios here makes clear that the Holy Spirit is just as much God as Jesus and the Father both are.

An important point to keep in mind here is that Scriptures do not break each other. They all agree. So rejecting the witness of a part of the Bible ostensibly in favor of another one or to subordinate one to the other is a good way to end up in serious error.

This passage here only teaches that the Holy Spirit is also God by using the same title for God that the Father gave to Moses for His Identification to the Hebrews. It does not teach that the Holy Spirit is the same Person as Jesus Christ, especially not when other Scriptures clearly teach that He is not.

John 14:8-9

[8]Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”

[9]Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

You can't accept this truth because The Spirit is not in you. You must be born again, bro

Ihedinobi3:
Hello.

As I said in the other thread, I'm quoting you for reference purposes, so that those who read my answers can easily see what I am responding to and where they can find it, if they go looking. Please, don't feel obliged to respond to me. I am not seeking a debate with you. I don't think that it is possible for me and you to have a meaningful one.

I think that the Scriptures are quite clear that human beings have a free will. That is what it means to be made in the image of God. See, for example, the following passage:

19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
John 3:19 (NKJV)

The above is obviously declaring that men had a preference for one thing over another when they could have had either.

But free will is often misunderstood. Atheists insist that it must be the ability to do exactly anything that one wants. That is not what creature free will is. In the piece above, free will has been treated somewhat similarly to what atheists insist that it is, so the protest above does have some merit.

Creature free will is the creaturely counterpart of God's Absolute Sovereignty. God is able to do anything at all that He wants. Nobody limits His desires or plans. He does not have a set of options from which He may choose and outside of which He cannot venture. For Him, reality is a blank canvas on which He can paint absolutely anything that pleases Him.

For creatures, this is not so. Those creatures to whom God has given a free will or rather, as the Bible actually puts it, those creatures that are made in God's Image are those that are able to make a free choice between options that God presents to them under the constraints of their individual makeup and their unique circumstances. That is, we cannot do anything that God has not made us able to do or that He has not given us an opportunity to do.

So, Abimelech in the example above would not have been able to sleep with Sarah if the Lord did not (1)make him physically able to or (2)give him an opportunity to do so. It doesn't matter if he wanted to do so. If events intervened that occupied him and exhausted his energies so that he never found the time to actually have sex with her, then he never would. If he fell sick and couldn't function sexually, then he also wouldn't be able to. It is in this way that the Lord limits our choices.

But this does not at all mean that we don't make choices. The fundamental choice that we all have to make is whether we will submit to God by putting our faith in His Messiah -- an unknown Person before the Cross, but real nevertheless, and the now-revealed Jesus Christ Who has died for the sins of all human beings -- or whether we will remain His enemies by rejecting the Gospel of the Salvation that He was yet to work in Jesus at the time of Abimelech and that He has now worked in the first Advent.

When we make this choice, the Lord organizes our physical abilities and circumstances to give us opportunities to confirm it or to eventually deny it. This is why Paul tells us that

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
1 Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV)

Our experiences are designed by God so that we face tests that are exactly suited to our true hearts. Abimelech would not have sinned against God by marrying Sarah if he knew that she was Abraham's wife. So, the Lord preserved him from sinning any further by simply not allowing him to have a choice about sleeping with her. When the time was right for him to be tested again about it, the Lord revealed to him that he was in trouble already. And he acted according to his true heart and gave Sarah back to Abraham.

The example of Jacob and Esau speaks not to free will but to the nature of salvation. Paul's teaching there was that salvation is God's Work, not ours. How this applies to Jacob and Esau was that Jacob was the one who believed whereas Esau rejected the Gospel. The mention of God's election is about God's foreknowledge and His Working together of all things to make sure that all those who would choose Him would be saved.

In short, God is very heavily biased toward believers. He built creation to work in a way that would produce only true believers in Jesus Christ at the end. Jacob was obviously the one whom God knew would choose His Promises over what nice things that this world can offer. The Lord knew that Esau, on the other hand, would use his physical and spiritual resources and opportunities in this life to reject the Promises that God not only gave to his fathers but also made him natural heir to. So, of course, God rejected him before he was even born.

What God did in the past is decree that each person would make exactly the choice that they wanted to and also decree where each person belonged eternally on the basis of this choice that He knew that they would make given every opportunity.

Paul was using this to teach that salvation was God's work. Just as God is the One running the universe so that He is not really responding to any choices we are making, rather we are responding to His Eternal Decrees with our choices, in the same way salvation is not a response to our works, rather itself is God's Work in our behalf and we are the ones who must respond to it. This is what, as he says, Israel refused to accept and for which they were rejected as a result.

So, even Romans 9 does not teach that we don't have a free will.

Romans 9:16


[16]So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.

MuttleyLaff:
"⁷A spiritual gift is given to each of us so we can help each other.
⁸To one person the Spirit gives the ability to give wise adviceb; to another the same Spirit gives a message of special knowledge.
⁹The same Spirit gives great faith to another, and to someone else the one Spirit gives the gift of healing.
¹⁰He gives one person the power to perform miracles, and another the ability to prophesy. He gives someone else the ability to discern whether a message is from the Spirit of God or from another spirit. Still another person is given the ability to speak in unknown languages,d while another is given the ability to interpret what is being said.
¹¹It is the one and only Spirit who distributes all these gifts. He alone decides which gift each person should have."
- 1 Corinthians 12:7

Anyone who is a believer automatically becomes born from high and would experience the manifestation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit and even qualifies to be blessed with the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

It is impossible without the gift of the Holy Spirit for Nicodemus to have acknowledged, confessed and admit the power and move of God in Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ's ministry. Any other person, not under the influence of the Holy Spirit, would have rubbished Jesus and attribute His power and exploits down to Belzeebub

Spot On

Ihedinobi3:
Hi.

I'm quoting your post for reference purposes, so please feel free to ignore my comment. It is not really meant to address you although it will address what you have said. You may respond if you please, but I may not carry on the conversation, since this is a fundamental break in our (yours and mine) common claim to faith in Christ and we have proven in the past that our views cannot be reconciled.

16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth.
John 14:16-17a (NIV)

The above passage is self-explanatory. Obviously, the Lord Jesus is not the Father or the Spirit. These are different Persons from Him Who share the same divine essence with Him. They are all God, but they are separate Persons from One Another. The whole Bible bears this out. The following passage is further proof.

17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life —only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
John 10:17-18 (NIV)

It is not impossible to twist the Scriptures to teach all manner of lies. This is one reason that James warns us not to aspire to be teachers. Not everyone has the gift of teaching. And even among those who do, the training and testing that are necessary to come into full-fledged ministry often prevent some of us from ever becoming pastor-teachers. So, the fact that someone can post Bible passages and insist that they mean this or that is not conclusive proof that they know what they are talking about.

...our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
2 Peter 3:15b-16 (NKJV)

2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty.

Is the above in your Bible?

Also, if You receive The Holy Spirit:

Acts 1:8
But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

When you receive the Holy Spirit, you shall be witnesses to Jesus, not Jehovah but Jesus, read the text again.

Whom are you witnessing? Who you witness determines which Spirit is in you.

Halleluyah

John 16:13-15

[13]However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

[14] He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.

[15] All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

FROM VERSE 14, THE HOLY SPIRIT GLORIFIES JESUS. ANYONE WHO HAS RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT GLORIFIES JESUS. NOT JEHOVAH BUT JESUS! JESUS CHRIST IS GOD ALMIGHTY!

DO YOU GLORIFY JESUS?

Jman24:
You see how at times I begin to question man made religion. Someone spelt out something black and white and you say the ain't the same?. Is it that I didn't learn my English language well in school or what?

First, the 'He' was used to address the holy Spirit meaning he is personified.

Second, he shed his blood( the only person that shed his blood on the cross for mankind according to christians is Jesus unless you are saying otherwise

Third, if you say the holy Spirit and Jesus ain't the same then it finally confirms my fear that all these stories were created by men

@Bolded: Bless you bro

It is The Father who sends The Holy Spirit, see:

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

It is Jesus who sends The Holy Spirit:

Jesus said:

But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you (John 16:7).

The Father , The Son and The Holy Spirit are One; It is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Snitch24:
missleading peice of shit

imagine arresting kanayo O kanayo for acting as a ritualist in a movie while the director of the film walk freely
Las Las religion will lead many to hell

Romans 9:11,14-21

[11] (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls),

[14] What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not!

[15] For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.”

[16]So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.

[17]For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.”

[18]Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

[19]You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?”

[20] But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it , “Why have you made me like this?”

GofuckYourself:
I love you indeed

We should have lunch some time.

I want to talk more with you

Anytime my brother

GofuckYourself:
[s][/s]

No he is not
Spiritual con man

May the Lord grant you understanding bro, I love you

shadeyinka:
The consequence of what you've written is this:
1. God is unjust in the punishment of sin and iniquity.
Did God make David commit adultery with Bathsheba?
Did David have a free will with what to do with Uriah?

2. Freewill is not absolute. It is always constrained by your location, ability and available grace. I want to be able to spend N1million per day: but do I have such kind of money?

3. If we do not have free will, why would Jesus say "whoever lust after a woman has committed adultery". Lack of freewill connote the fact that we do not have control over our actions.

YOU ARE SO IGNORANT ABOUT SPIRITUAL THINGS.

1. HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED THAT SOLOMON WAS A SON/PRODUCT OF THAT SAME DAVID AND BATHSHEBA? CHECK THE GENEALOGY OF JESUS AND BE MESMERIZED HOW JESUS CAME FROM THAT SAME LINE.

AND YOU SAID GOD WOULD BE UNJUST? YOU ARE SO SO IGNORANT, NOW LEARN THE SCRIPTURES BELOW:

Romans 9:11,14-21

[11] (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls),

[14] What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not!

[15] For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.”

[16]So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.

[17]For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.”

[18]Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

[19]You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?”

[20] But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it , “Why have you made me like this?”

[21]Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

May the Lord Grant you understanding

GofuckYourself:


Oh how nice of you

We all need his mercy

Fix your life my friend

Live a truly good life

Stop the con

2 Corinthians 3:15-17

[15] But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.

[16] Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

[17] Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty.

The Lord Jesus is the Holy Spirit; but with a veiled heart you wouldn't know. Mercy!

Galatians:
Okay, so who is the Comforter?

Good Question

May the Lord grant you understanding

John 14:6
[6] Jesus said to him, “ I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

NB: Jesus is the TRUTH

John 14:17
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

NB: Do you see the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth? Jesus stated in verse 6 that He is Truth. The Holy Spirit is Jesus . Now the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of God is, there is Liberty.

When Jesus was telling His disciples about the Holy Spirit, He told them they (disciples) knew Him (The Holy Spirit) for He (The Holy Spirit) dwelled with them. Lol, and you guys can't still see?

GofuckYourself:
[s][/s]

The holy spirit and Jesus are not the same don't mislead people sir

Spend less time trying preach and more time living a godly life that will inspire others to live a good life too

That's what it.means to be truly christ like

Lol

May God have mercy on you

shadeyinka:
You are ONE even though you have three different identities. Only at death could your identities be separated. God cannot die: His identities cannot be separated.

God is One and indivisible.


Mat 12:31-32:
"Why I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven to men. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whoever speaks against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

John 5:30:
"I can of my own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which has sent me."

Luk 3:22:
"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove on him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, You are my beloved Son; in you I am well pleased."

Again

If by the bolded you mean body soul and spirit, are you saying your body is a person? Your soul a different person and spirit a different person?

May the Lord grant you understanding

Acts 20:28

Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

The Holy Spirit (God Almighty) Bought the Church with His Own Blood. Halleluyah.

A gentleman asked the other time on this platform that , what is the name.of the Holy Spirit? I loved the question.

In Matthew 28:19, Jesus directed His disciples to baptise in THE NAME (Singular) of The Father and of The Son and of The Holy Spirit. Go through the scriptures especially the Book of Acts (Acts 2:38, Acts 19:5, Colossians 3:17, Acts 10:48) ; you will know that the disciples baptised in the Name of Jesus. The Name of The Father, and Of The Son and of The Holy Spirit is Jesus!

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are no names but TITLES; just like one person could be The Farmer, Father and Husband. May the Lord grant you understanding.

shadeyinka:
You are ONE even though you have three different identities. Only at death could your identities be separated. God cannot die: His identities cannot be separated.

God is One and indivisible.


Mat 12:31-32:
"Why I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven to men. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whoever speaks against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

John 5:30:
"I can of my own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which has sent me."

Luk 3:22:
"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove on him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, You are my beloved Son; in you I am well pleased."

Again

Now The Lord is the Spirit; and where the spirit of God is there is liberty.

May the Lord grant you understanding

Now, contrary to what has been taught for centuries, the Holy Scriptures do not say Men have a FreeWill. Yes, men have a will but not a freewill.

If men had a free will, they would do whatever they desire and please but the Word of God makes us understand that, the plans of men are futile if the Lord doesn't endorse such place. In Romans Chapter 9, we are told about how the Lord hardened the heart of Pharoah for God's own divine purpose; Pharoah had no choice other than to do as the Lord had planned. In Genesis 20, God literally WITHHELD Abimalech from sinning (Sleeping with Sarah). See:

Genesis 20:6-7
[6]And God said to him in a dream, “Yes, I know that you did this in the integrity of your heart. For I also withheld you from sinning against Me; therefore I did not let you touch her.

[7]Now therefore, restore the man’s wife; for he is a prophet, and he will pray for you and you shall live. But if you do not restore her, know that you shall surely die, you and all who are yours.”


Once God can withhold men from doing certain things, then men don't have FREEWILL!

shadeyinka:
You are not quite precise sir!

The Father is NOT the Word
The Word is NOT the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is NOT the Father

However

God is the Father
God is the Word
God is the Holy Spirit.


For proper comprehension:

My Soul is NOT my Body
My Body is NOT my Spirit
My Spirit is NOT my Soul

However
I am my Body
I am my Soul
I am my Spirit

The same me but three identities

Shalom

Lol

God is One and indivisible.

Jesus Christ is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit

Have I been long with you and you still don't know me Philip,? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father

Here are the prophesies :

1. Our Lord Jesus Christ is still God and in absolute control over His creation.

2. All things will work together for those who love Him; those who are called according to His purpose!

Amen

HedwigesMaduro:
If Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit, why did He talk of the different consequences of sinning against the Two of Them? Just curious.

When He lived on this Earth as the man Jesus, He was lowered even though He was in the very form God.

All those who insulted Him, reviled Him and Killed Him were forgiven. He is currently the Holy Spirit and any blasphemy against Him will never be forgiven

Blabbermouth:
Q1: You saying they have the same name (in this case) mean they are one and the same person, not 3, just 1.
Is the holy spirit, Yhwh and Jesus just one person?

Q2: What kind of being is this person? A man, an angelic creature or what?

Good questions

Q1: Yes, the Holy Spirit is same as the Lord Jesus Christ

Q2: He is Spirit/God (John 4:24)

At the appointed time, He became man (1 Timothy 3:16)

Died, resurected on the third day and ascended into heaven. He poured Himself upon His children and Lives in the children of God.

Only He can do this.

With Him all things are possible

He loves you

Blabbermouth:
That's a nice point there.
So, are you also saying Jesus is Yhwh?

If yes, then I have a series of question to ask.

Yea, Jesus Christ is YHWH

All questions are welcome bro

God be with you

Blabbermouth:
Consequently, Holy spirit is Jesus. Another name for Jesus is holy spirit.

Bingbagbo, is the above right?

Yes.

You see, in Matthew 28:19, before the Lord Jesus ascended, He directed His disciples and by extension all sons of God to baptize believers in THE NAME of the Father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit.

Note that, the Lord Jesus said NAME and not NAMES. The disciples consequently went and baptized believers in THE NAME JESUS (Acts 2:38, ACTS 19, ACTS 10, Collosians 3:17 et Al.)

The Lord Jesus is that same Holy Spirit



2 Corinthians 3:17
[17] Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty.


See, God is not 3 different persons acting as God; God is ONE. He is same as the God of Moses , The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. They are manifestations of that same one God (Deuteronomy 6:4)

May God be with you bro