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donnie:
Christ means MESSIAH or savior so I can agree that the Father YAH is Christ or MESSIAH.

I also agree the YAHUSHA (Jesus) is Christ.

But to say Jesus Christ is the Father is FALSE. That's the Trinity doctrine.

John 14:8-9
[8]Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”

[9]Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

donnie:
Christ means MESSIAH or savior so I can agree that the Father YAH is Christ or MESSIAH.

I also agree the YAHUSHA (Jesus) is Christ.

But to say Jesus Christ is the Father is FALSE. That's the Trinity doctrine.

The Trinity doctrine doesn't say Jesus is the Father.



“Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins” (vv. 20–21).

- Matthew 1:18–21

Jesus is the Father

donnie:
What you implied (by what I quoted) is the false Christian Trinity doctrine.

I didn't imply any Trinity. I have never mentioned any Trinity.

Read the scripture I shared

The Christ is the Everlasting Father, what is your problem with that? Your own verse you quoted said God is the only saviour; and you say Jesus is not the Father?

Jesus Christ is the Father

Colossians 1:16-17,19-20,22,28

[16]For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

[17]And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.

[19]For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell,

[20]and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

[22]in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—

[28]Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.

Jesus is the Creator

donnie:
Trinity doctrine is false. MESSIAH was given power dominion and authority by the Father.

They're not the same (even though the Father lived in MESSIAH) neither are they equal.

Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am YAHUAH; and beside me there is no saviour.

Go back and read Isaiah 9:6, the Christ is Everlasting Father

Did I talk about Trinity?

Can't u read?

I know the devilish JWs and antichrists are pained.

To the JWs Jesus is angel Michael (what blasphemy)

Jesus is the creator (Colossians 1:16)

Isaiah 9:6-7

[6]For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

[7]Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. The Punishment of Samaria


Jesus is the Father

1 Corinthians 2:8

“Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”


Psalms 24:1-2,7-10
[1]The earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness, The world and those who dwell therein.

[2]For He has founded it upon the seas, And established it upon the waters.

[7]Lift up your heads, O you gates! And be lifted up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in.

[8]Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, The Lord mighty in battle.

[9]Lift up your heads, O you gates! Lift up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in.

[10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, He is the King of glory. Selah


Jesus is the King of Glory!!!!

JWs and all antichrists are pained

Isaiah 1:2-4

[2]Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth! For the Lord has spoken: “I have nourished and brought up children, And they have rebelled against Me;
[3]The ox knows its owner And the donkey its master’s crib; But Israel does not know, My people do not consider.”
[4]Alas, sinful nation, A people laden with iniquity, A brood of evildoers, Children who are corrupters[b]! They have forsaken the Lord, They have provoked to anger The Holy One of Israel, They have turned away backward.[/b]



This same holiness was seen in the earthly life of God the Son. Peter said that He committed no sin (1 Peter 2:22). John said that there was no sin in Him (1 John 3:5). Paul said that He knew no sin (2 Corinthians 5:21). The writer to the Hebrews said He was “holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners” (Hebrews 7:26). We are not surprised to hear Peter refer to Him in his sermon at the gate of the temple as the Holy One, the very same exalted name applied to the Father (Acts 3:14).

Jesus Christ was truly holy. That is one reason why the self-seeking, self-righteous religious rulers of the day hated Him and wanted to destroy Him. They stood condemned in His presence. That is why demons trembled before Him and feared for their very existence. In the synagogue at Capernaum, one of them cried out, “What do we have to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are—the Holy One of God!” (Mark 1:24) The Holy One of God! Sinful men feared Him and fallen angels fled from His presence. His holiness is awesome.

Maximus69:
Where is bangbagbo?

It's like only Jehovah's Witnesses agreed among themselves, the rest are like

Isu ata yán an yàn an ~Yam pepper SCATTER SCATTER! Luke 11:23

◄ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 ►

While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

2 Timothy 3:5-8,13

[5]having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

[6]For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts,

[7]always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[8]Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith;

[13]But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

The Apostle Paul warned people about the jws

2 Timothy 3:5-8,13

[5]having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

[6]For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts,

[7]always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[8]Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith;

[13]But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

JW is a cult. They deny the deity of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. They say the Holy Spirit is a force when Jesus says the only unpardonable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

JWs are always learning but never able to come to the truth. They CREEP into households to deceive the blind with their demonic new world translation.

I know many people that have become drunkards since they got deceived by the JW.

Flee JW.

777isaac:
Thanks for this message. Paul's message here is not only to Timothy and others of their time. But also to me. More grace sir.

Bless u bro

What is God's commandment to His Children?

1 John 3:22-23
[22]And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because[b] we keep His commandments[/b] and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
[23]And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

1 John 5:20 (JWs Bible)

20 But we know that the Son of God has come,c and he has given us insight* so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true. And we are in union with the one who is true[i],by means of[/i] his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting.



Now look at the correct translation

1 John 5:20 (NKJV)

1 John 5:20
[20]And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

Can you see what the JWs are trying to hide in their devilish new world translation?

Jesus Christ is eternal life and the true God according to that verse.

Hallelujah

Jesus Christ is God the Father (1 Timothy 3:16)

1 John 3:1
Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! [/b]Therefore the world does not know us, [b]because it did not know Him.

Fact that the verse above is talking about God the Father is incontrovertible. Well, from the verse, it is God the Father who makes us children of God.

Yet again, from the verse, The world did not know the Father.

John Chapter one throws more light on 1 John 3:1, we will all see who this Father is.

John 1:1,3-4,10-13
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[3]All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
[4]In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
[10]He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
[11]He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
[12]But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
[13]who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. The Word Becomes Flesh

As you have read from the text above, it is the word (Jesus) who made us the children of God. It is the word (Jesus) that the world didn't know in verse 10 as emphasised in 1 John 3:1.

Conclusion

Jesus Christ is the Father. It was the Father who is spirit that incarnated as man to bring man back to himself.

Jesus Christ is the Father.

Hallelujah

WHEN YOU ARE ALONE

The most opportune time for Satan to visit the born-again is when the latter alone. You wanna know what happens when you are alone? Satan comes to tempt you. But why will Satan tempt you? Satan tempts you so you sin against God; when a man sins, he obeys Satan and disobeys God. Satan tempts the born-again to sin the relationship between the born-again and God is strained; then he (Satan) can accuse and attack the born again.

The Lord Jesus who is the mentor and master of the born-again was himself tempted by Satan when he was alone (Matthew 4:1-11). Satan tempted the Lord Jesus with the lusts of the eyes and the sinful and temporary pleasures of this world but the Lord was unwavering. Listen, when you are alone, the devil throws all sinful pleasures at you hoping you will fall into them; this is his profession and he is a master at this.

Does that mean we should never be alone? That is impossible! The Lord Jesus was often alone. What we need to do when alone is to be sober-minded and alert (1 Peter 5:. When you are alone, meditate on the word of God; praise and thank the Lord. Study the word, fast and pray. In Matthew 4, the Lord Jesus was coming from a 40-day fast with prayers; this should be the lifestyle of the born-again. Know that, your adversary the devil prowls around like a lion seeking YOU to devour (1 Peter 5:. Anytime you are alone, bear in mind that Satan is there to tempt. When you fall into his temptation, you make Satan a Victor. Also note that, when Jesus defeated satan in Matthew 4 by disobeying him, angels appeared to minister to him. Likewise, when the born-again disobeys Satan, angels descend from heaven to minister to him. Make the Lord proud of you.

Be watchful when alone! Resist the devil and he will flee from you (James 4:7).

Jesus Christ is God Almighty

(K.N. KOOMSON, WAVE)

[quote author=KNOWMORE56 post=86992608]Jesus claims to be the Father in john 14:9 '...have I (The Father) been so long with you, and yet hast thou not known me...?'[/quo.


Bless u

Romans 11:34-36
34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
Or who has been his counselor?”
35 “Who has ever given to God,
that God should repay them?”
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.

Now note: 'from him and through him and for him In verse 36; this Him is a pronoun to God in verse 35'. Open your eyes brothers, Jesus Christ is God Almighty.

Also see.

Collosians 1:16.

For by Him
all things were created; everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.

Backtracking to the verses before verse 16 will make you appreciate that Collosians 1:16 is talking about the Lord Jesus Christ.

Also see.

John 1:10

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Jesus Christ is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus Christ is the God that created all things. He is the only God. Halleluyah.

Halleluyah

AntiChristian:
Even Satan was before Abraham too!

Jesus is God Almighty

AntiChristian:
This verse applies to Noah, Moses and some other Bible Characters too!

All of them can tell their followers "I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father except through me".
The followers of Moses, Noah, Abraham, etc do not know Jesus. They know the person sent to them and God.

Lol, you agent of the devil! Repent or you die in your sins. Before Abraham, I AM.

Neroiam:
God is a class of beings just as you have mankind.

In the God kind, there are three beings; Father, Son, and HolySpirit.

So, yes! Jesus is God.

Deuteronomy 6:4 says God is one being!

God is not 3 beings please

John 15:5 New King James Version (NKJV)

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit[b]; for without Me you can do nothing.[/b]


Without God, you can do nothing. Jesus Christ is God Almighty. Greatest mystery (1 Timothy 3:16)

Janosky:
bingbagbo twisting 1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc
* John 6:46 "not that anyone has seen
the Father except the One who is from God;
only He has seen the Father."

John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only
begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he hath declared him ."

John 5:37
And the Father himself, which hath sent me,
hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither
heard his voice at any time, nor seen his
shape."

Between Bingbagbo & Jesus Christ, who is lying?

Anyone That has seen me has seen the Father-Jesus Christ

MuttleyLaff:
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Why has Janosky, laughing upandan the place, like a castrated hyena, lump me in with this list, erhn?

For the records, I am not trinitarian. God is one and His name is Jesus Christ (1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc).

I solemnly urge you in the presence of God and Christ Jesus, who will someday judge the living and the dead when he comes to set up his Kingdom: Preach the word of God. Be prepared, whether the time is favorable or not. Patiently correct, rebuke, and encourage your people with good teaching.


For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths.

But you should keep a clear mind in every situation. Don’t be afraid of suffering for the Lord. Work at telling others the Good News, and fully carry out the ministry God has given you.
As for me, my life has already been poured out as an offering to God. The time of my death is near.

I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, and I have remained faithful. And now the prize awaits me—the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give me on the day of his return. And the prize is not just for me but for all who eagerly look forward to his appearing.

Timothy, please come as soon as you can. Demas has deserted me because he loves the things of this life and has gone to Thessalonica. Crescens has gone to Galatia, and Titus has gone to Dalmatia. Only Luke is with me. Bring Mark with you when you come, for he will be helpful to me in my ministry. I sent Tychicus to Ephesus. When you come, be sure to bring the coat I left with Carpus at Troas. Also bring my books, and especially my papers.

Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm, but the Lord will judge him for what he has done. Be careful of him, for he fought against everything we said.
16The first time I was brought before the judge, no one came with me. Everyone abandoned me. May it not be counted against them. But the Lord stood with me and gave me strength so that I might preach the Good News in its entirety for all the Gentiles to hear. And he rescued me from certain death. Yes, and the Lord will deliver me from every evil attack and will bring me safely into his heavenly Kingdom. All glory to God forever and ever! Amen.


Give my greetings to Priscilla and Aquila and those living in the household of Onesiphorus stayed at Corinth, and I left Trophimus sick at Miletus.
Do your best to get here before winter. Eubulus sends you greetings, and so do Pudens, Linus, Claudia, and all the brothers and sisters.

May the Lord be with your spirit. And may his grace be with all of you.

2 Timothy Chapter four
Holy Bible, New Living Translation

2 Timothy 4

Your Phone is taking you to hell-JPR

If there be a device, imprisoning innumerable souls in the kingdom of darkness then the cell/smart phone ranks highest. The cell phone has facilitated a more easy and convenient commission of sexual Immorality; funny enough, people think 'well, no one is watching, God is not on the phone.' Listen, Everything we do with/on our phone is In the full glare of God and the devil.

We will account for every single thing we have done with/on our phones. Your activities with/on the phone reflects who you are. Any lewd conversation you engage in with another via the phone renders you sexually immoral.

"You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” —Matthew 5:27-28

Women are not exempted from this. When a woman lusts after a man, she has already had sex with same.

Men, listen! Anytime you lust after another man's wife, you have already had sex with her; another man will also bonk your wife since we reap what we sow and vice versa. Even if you are not married now, such will be your fate when you marry.

Deleting lewd chats from your phone doesn't delete it in the spirit world, only true repentance and confession deletes your convo history in the spirit realm. Married men and women who are enganging others other than their spouse in such dirty exchanges are the most miserable. It is shameful to have women transfer their naked photos and videos via phone to men and vice versa. If you don't quit immediately, the wrath of God is coming against you. Block some contacts! If need be, change your phone contact number. Listen, there are many demonic agents using the phone to draw many into captivity . Yes, you think you know him/her, but seated in him/her is an angry dirty satanic spirit seeking to sift you like wheat. Stop sending emojis emojis to the opposite sex. Stop sending and replying suggestive messages to the opposite sex. Stop displaying your photos over the phone every now and then; what is your purpose? Listen, anytime you engange in a lewd conversation with another over the phone, you have sex with that person. It counted onto you as sexual sin, yes! Flee.

Cut off anyone that leads you there. They don't love you, the devil is using them. Many marriages are breaking because of the phone. Throw away that phone before it throws you away. Stop seducing people via the phone. Use your phone, to preach Jesus crucified.

Be ye :

Watchful
Alert
Vigilant
Enduring

Jesus is coming!

Bacteriologist:
Only a fool says that there is a god.

He who laughs last laughs best

Thanks bro

I pray all will see the supreme Godship of my God and Saviour Jesus Christ