₦airaland Forum

LukasPodolski:
And lastly, Fulani are not visible in Kwara South and Kwara central.

Even in Kwara central which has a little touch of Fulani (through the Emirate), you can't enter Ilorin and be speaking Fulani, who will respond to you?
More than 60% of Ilorin indigenes even find it very difficult to express themselves in English/Pidgin not to talk of Fulani.

The Yoruba spoken in Ilorin is the funniest in Yorubaland, because it's very raw, not poshy and they don't fake it..

So tell me anywhere in Kwara South/central where you would find Fulani speakers (including Ilorin)

The little fulani in Ilorin have embrace Yoruba culture, there is no touch of Fulani in the city of Ilorin except the Gambari area (where I pass through almost every week) even in Gambari, the language there is Yoruba... You can't enter Gambari and be speaking fulbe/fufulde.

Well let's see if Ilorin Emirate would still exist after Abdul rasaq second tenure.

Is Ilorin East not also part of kwara south? Ilorin East has the highest established fulani settlement in the whole of Kwara, infact they use camels as means of transport there.
And don't think of lying to me, I know Kwara very well and most traders learnt hausa while trading in Ilorin because the fulani only care about Hausa not English

BlackfireX:
Keep quiet..
I made a mistake, and I realised it, and I said sorry.. Okija,ihiala, uli, Azia, amoka are one blood from the same father...

And where is Ihembosi?

Ekemax:
you will just open your mouth waaaaaahhhhhh

LOL, E pain you?

OfoIgbo:
NRI also no longer crowns any kings, NRI used to crown every king in Igboland and Igodomigodo and Igala.

All these changed around 1910 or so, when the. British forces Eze NRI Obalike to sever the cultural links between NRI and the Igbos.
Subsequent warrant chiefs were forced to renounce Eze NRI in their oaths of office before the British recognized them.
It is a long story.

Anyway the crowning of kings was a spiritual exercise, which was why it was totally within the sphere of NRI duties

LOL at "every king in Igbo land" like there were more than two established Kingdoms in northern Igboland. Nri only crowns herself and Onitsha. The rest are established Republics and many headed by Obi and Okpala

BlackfireX:
He is from Okija in ihiala LGA... Point of correction

Please Stop this, Okija and Ihiala are the only two communities I know with inseparable brotherly bond and indigenes of these communities won't like this knid of argument both of you want to start

What this guy is absolutely the truth, if things are allowed to go South in Anambra what do you expect other Igbo states to look like?

Our next governor.
#Anambra will be great again in the hands of Anambra south.
I won't mind voting for you under PDP because I know you leave them after like Umahi.
God bless Anambra State.
For those that don't know what is happening, the governor we imported from US has landed

Niceman12:
Oga, I grow up in MTD at Zaria amidst Igbo people. Most of my best friends at home and in my primary and Secondary schools are igbos then. But they hardly speak Igbo even among themselves. It's always English.

I don't know of those in south but here, they hardly speak the language.

How do you know that they are igbos. Haven't you heard about Niger Delta people before?
We might look similar and cook, dress and behave the same way but these days all man is for himself. Plus we bear the same names but they don't see themselves as Igbos.
And you seriously expect somebody that is born and bred in Zaria to be speaking Igbo up and down like emigrated from SE that day. It's like expecting an Arab born in England to speak more Arabic than he speaks English in England

Positivepoint:
Well hausa and yoruba influenced each other cultures by war and trade for hundreds of years.

Which influence does yoruba have on hausa. Tell me just one

Niceman12:
The only reason is because Igbo people don't like speaking their language. They so much accept English as superior language. If not of that, I assure you not only people in SS or SE, but even in other parts of nihlgeria

So phyno, flavour and Nollywood films speak Arabic. And you identify Igbos in your market when they speak English plus how the northern mobs identify Igbo in the North then was first starting up a conversation in Japanese

Niceman12:
If conquest is the determinant of a language that peoples speak, then Fulani would have been the lingua franca of north.

Fulani were already speaking Hausa before the conquest of uthman Dan fodio. He even did his rallying call in Hausa and did more than 100 literal works in Hausa. So fulani were actually the ones that spread the hausa language not the Hausas. For example if you want to discuss with a fulani man in Kwara and you don't speak Hausa, my brother forget it you are wasting your time.
Ask anybody that have lived in Kwara

RedboneSmith:
This is how you know people that don't have a grasp on what they're talking about. They copy and paste from Wikipedia. Which one is Eze Nri of Awka?

LOL, Awka was not even part of Nri and they have their own monarch known as Eze Ụzụ

RedboneSmith:
Nri agents from Oraeri were involved in title-taking in Nnewi in the old days. There's no need to deny this.

I don't think so. Anaedo was fully independent. Mr man, remember Nri never conquered anybody and Igbo clans were autonomous.
The only clan that was crowned by Nri was Onitsha. No other person

LukasPodolski:
that the Agbada is originally Yoruba attire.

The idiot thinks that the "Yoruba copied Agbada from Hausa" (without any proven evidence) but not the other way round like "Hausa copied Agbada from yoruba" (which I don't even care about)


is the head tie not even different? we use FILA while in the picture above, they, Hausa used a special type of head tie.


OLORIBURUKU

So these people are yorubas.
You don't know that yorubas were naked before the invasion of fulani.
Its like you don't understand sarcasm

I never knew that the yorubas ride camels in the desert.
Sorry for not doing my research well

LukasPodolski:
firstly, Agbada is a Yoruba attire, we didn't copy it from anyone.

secondly, Islam came to Yorubaland through the Malians, that's why our people call it Esin imale meaning religion of people from Mali.

I've noticed this moniker, you're found of peddling false info, you and that unfortunate guy Igbochief001 (though he has slow down lately).
this thread is not about Yoruba how did Yoruba suddenly came into the picture? don't mix religion with our culture, neither Islam nor Christianity were part of our culture, religion is a personal faith, those who want to worship goat should be allowed to, same with those who want to worship Satan.
Las Las nah Ogun go kill you if you don't stop this falsehood.

Stop mixing Christianity and Islam with Yoruba culture, they are personal faith.

And you can were saying?

The way the female gender throw Virginity on males face, do they realize that some men are homophobic and can't stand the sight of breaking hymen

Of course, Virginity is for the gender that takes it as the only thing they have in life, which in this case is them.
Since it's the only thing they cherish and have to offer, the gender that doesn't take it serious have the God given right to condemn any charlatan parading fake virgin ass.
If you are no longer virgin, own up to it and stop lying of how you were raped and deflowered by your classmate in nursery 1

HopeUzodinma:
Weyrey dey disguise.
See that bolded there, any Igbo person would never write that.
Ola is that you claiming chioma?

So true. They don't know Ndigbo don't say such out loud or brag about it because there is a saying in Igboland that he that says he is smart is foolish.
It is non Igbos that call us such. Lol

NNEWIsuper:
True to an extent but not totally

Totally true. Take the words of Ibn Rashi AL Maktoum in consideration "the conquered always copy the conquerors LANGUAGE, motto, dressing and religion"
Almost all Nigerian ethnicities except Ndigbo are victims of these for the hausa-fulani. The only people Igbo fell for this was to European Christianity. Yorubas copy Agbada, Islamic religion, way of expression from fulani especially the Ilorin yoruba that now use Arewa motto (that star like cones)

Juliusmalema:
There is nothing to ask. Are you lips sealed that you are asking me to ask who?

Your lies should be fed to outsiders as usual and not shooting yourself up and down with nri bla bla bla.

The people has nothing to do with nri.

No, Akanri were sent for ịkpụ alụ in all those places those days. He is right about that one. That is just spiritual processes especially in cases of suicide or poor harvest but NRI never had political control over Anaedo clan from time immemorial

OfoIgbo:
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Which clan abrogates abominations in Nnewi? IKPU ALU
Everywhere NRI people carried out IKPU ALU, NRI people crowned their kings in ancient times, if they had monarchies

You think this is all about talking and doing gragra.

I am a nwadiana in Uruagu Nnewi by the way, so I know way more about Nnewi than you know.

I've addressed the case of ịkpụ alụ already. Akanri were sent for those processes but as for coronation, nobody coronated Igwe Nnewi. Infact the leader of Nnewi has always been the Obi of Otolo it was even of recent days that he started going by the title Igwe.
Nri was just the spiritual capital nothing more.

Wickedfact:
Excuse me sir, is Lagos part of "abroad"?

I'm asking cos Ngige, Obi and Obiano came directly from Lagos.

Sorry I forgot that abroad always sound like Lagos to south westerners. I believe I used most in my statement to distinguish people like Ngige and Obiano that are based in Nigeria. As for Peter Obi he was a US product after gaining degrees in Nsukka and lagos respectively

papaa4:
This 1 don come foreign land to rule Anambra

Almost all Anambra governors always come from abroad which is the reason why we are ahead.
Instead of US benefiting from them, we benefit instead. This man will do wonders in Anambra

favor914:
But it was the same Ndiigbos that said they never had any central rulership? Abi was it the Hausa, or Yoruba that said it?

Ndigbo were and are still autonomous which is more advanced than central Kingdom. Take for instance, the Europeans are dropping those outdated central rulership to more autonomous method Ndigbo are known for and gave it the sweetest name in the world known as REPUBLIC.
Oga, ancient Ndigbo were more advanced than other black nations

angelusbrut:
This man can bless people eeh, he can handle project eeh, Anambra people will be happy to have you. Lion of Africa himself

His ọzọ title is Oke osisi orumba. Ndigbo identify with their clan not Africa.
Another example is the great Ojukwu that goes with the ọzọ title Ikemba Nnewi or Nnamdi Azikiwe that goes with Owella Onitsha

Juliusmalema:
He suppose know all these unless he wants to insert his own distortion just too feel alright.

But still the influence of Nri cant be neglected. Akanri are being sent all the way to these areas those days to cleanse the land if abomination was commited especially cases of suicide and the ọzọ system is still a proof that all these dynasties were linked. It's still a pain that there history were written in what contemporary humans can't read.
In truth Nri is to Ndigbo what Mecca is for Muslims

femi4:
OSU caste system was followed out of ignorance

This is one issue I have with Nigerians, they criticize what they don't understand. Please how do somebody become osu?
If you know the answer then you'll understand the caste

ekusigo:
Don't mind them!
Igbo love and cherish their Ezes, but he must love and cherish them too... otherwise say what say what? anything can happen.



As for me the caste system is responsible for the backwardness of many igbo communities.

Customs and Traditions that do not bring development, unity and general progress that one na custom?

In my village have put my leg in their shoes and seen their pain.

Please tell me one community that practice the caste system and is backward?
The caste system is of the mind and general acceptance. In real life, nobody will discourage you from marrying an osu if you insist just that your children will bear the burden of stigmatization. Once you marry osu, you and your entire generation becomes osu forever.
By the way Osu was a thing of choice. They were cowards that devoted themselves to Oracle to protect them and nobody wants issues with oracles. Osu can only cease to exist when all the oracles and shrines they are devoted to confirmed impotent and cleared.
Thank you

Juliusmalema:
Yeah, I know.

Just that the moniker is funny and if you leave him he might write another one join though I believe he is going through his history and will still come back...Lol

@ your last statement..fact and undisputable.

I don't know whether the guy knows that Nnewi has three Obi and Anaedo clan answers to nobody. Same with Umuachalla clan of Okija, Ihiala, Uli and Ihembosi. All these clans are lead by Obi and Okpala of which the most prominent takes the fourth title of ọzọ known as Igwe.
Okija never fell to the whites

Rugaria:
Have you thought about how effective it will be to modernise the Nze na Ozo society, the Ûmûada grouping, Ndi ichie, the age grade and others into effective administrative tools that can be used to run a modern state instead of all these foreign terminologies they burden us with, such as, the Senate, the house of representatives, etc. "Offor" can easily replace the "Mace" in legislative gatherings and will command more awe and fear..

It's like you don't want politicians to drive Benz in Anaigbo .
I suggest that the swearing in should be done in Ogwugwu Akpụ Okija

OfoIgbo:
Nnewi monarchs were crowned by the Nris. I wonder whether that practice is still going on

That is a ballant lie. Nri was just the spiritual capital of Nri environs not Anaedo. It's like you haven't heard of Anaedo before. Nri never crowned anybody from the anaedo clan