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paramakina202:
I didn't know we are engaged in a competiton or fight that a winner must emerge .

Na today you know?
There must always be a winner and loser in anything.

christistruth01:
Ojukwu lied to you that wasn't what happened

Adaka Boro was not the Only Ijaw there was a whole Battalion of Ijaw Swimmers and Canoe men helping the Federal Forces when Boro died his deputy took over

Adekunle strangled Adaka Boro and the rest disappeared

paramakina202:
This is urban development.The natives are far from the shore line.

And they come to farm at Mgba odumodu on aeroplane?
See your life?

Accept defeat my friend. Next time don't talk out of mere assumptions

christistruth01:
After the Capture of Port Harcourt

The Ijaw Swimmers and Canoe men Led the Federal Forces across all the Major Rivers

Adaka Boro was killed immediately the first take over after which Biafran troops led an Ibibio teenager held Nigeria at PortHarcourt for weeks before Major Onwuatuegwu took over. After many stallings, Achuzie was sent to continue from where Onwuatuegwu stopped after he successfully defeated and disgraced Major Murtala Mohammed and the Soviets at Onitsha.

I told you the war was like looking at my palm

christistruth01:
It was the Federal Forces that Chased them into the River

The Federal Forces were Trained by Ijaw Swimmers

LOL.
You are very funny.

Ijaw land has always been part of Eastern region before the war so where did the training happen when the war was a sudden event?
You didn't ask yourself that did you?

christistruth01:
Go and read Gen Alabi Isama's book " Tragedy of Victioy" so many Biafran Soldiers drowned in the Azumini River that as a result of the Stench and to prevent disease breakout the Federal Forces decided to do everything to Capture the next set of Biafran Soldiers alive as Prisoners of War instead

Azumini is in Igbo territory, mainland sef.
So where does the Ijaw people drowning Igbo soldiers come from?

paramakina202:
Is main market a living quarters?

How well do you know Onitsha?

chiefobdk2:
Ose is littered from behind metallurgical institute onitsha.. Along the onitsha owerri Road.. Town's like oba akwuukwu, oraifite, ozubulu okija all have ose along this route.. Anytime I travel to Nnewi, I usually go to Ose oba.. I have forgotten the name of the Ose its behind one filling station after rojenny whr all those trucks park along the road.. That is where they sell undiluted ngwo.... After oba junction before idemili there is another Ose.. The entrance is at That spot where road safety stand... They sell nkwu enu. In this particular Ose..

You are a true son of the soil. Confirm Nwa Afọ, not those impostors that claim Anambra on Nairaland to be fooling themselves.
The name is Ose Ụmụagụ (one village in Oba because other villages have theirs) and the back of metallurgical where they do the actual tapping is called Ọgbọ mmanụ.
One can't say he knows Anambra very well without knowing where the best palm wine tappers live. Unlike other Igbo towns, palm wine tapping is the main occupation of Ndị Oba in the past. That is what they are known for.

It is their cultural heritage and I believe it will still be there like it was in the past.
I can never forget my experience watching those diochi return in their canoe with pots of wine ready for selling. People from far and wide always wait for them at the shores.

Na im this dude dey tell me say Ndigbo dey fear water.
Ndi ara, Ndi ara

Fejoku:
The OP is not Igbo. This thread is a very crafty means he wants to use in attacking Ndigbo.
No reasonable Igbo man will make such a foolish statement into a thread.
How on earth does a person generalize such stupid statement from online trolls? Does it mean Ndigbo don't have people living in the coastal areas and other waterbodies? This is to tell you his reason for this thread is cynical.
It is a fact that many Biafran soldiers drowned by the deliberate actions of ijaw boatmen. This has happened in many other wars in history. Most soldiers from lands without much water will drown in such situations. The population of Igbo heartland alone is by far more than that of both Bayelsa and Rivers state non-Igbo groups. So such happening shouldn't be used in defining Igbos in general.
The only point a sensible person will pick from this discussion is that any serious soldier must learn how to swim just in case he finds himself in a large body of water. A common element as water shouldn't waste a brave soldier who has surmounted so many other tougher odds.
No foolish person should be allowed to brand Ndigbo in general with his jaundiced perception.

Nice write up but one thing I will like to correct here is the Biafran soldiers drowning. It is a mere made up story just like the story of Imaginary Igala military invading Igboland.
It never happened.

AlexBells:
First of all, I'm from Ezikoba and Ukwa is not something we are quite conversant with, however we have the best palm wine in the whole world ask anybody, about Nkwuocha Enugu Ezike,

Then coming to the season, in Ezikoba palm wine tapping is more lucrative than crude oil, so every season is to it but most likely during dry season is when you get the best quality becuase the rain had stopped also there is the other palm wine we call Ekpo while most other part of Igboland call it Ngwo, Ekpo is first fell, apparently it is of low grade compared to Nkwuenu (up wine),

I'm not into wine tapping stuff as even when I do spend sometimes at home, I'm more of the city dweller and I wasn't even allowed to climb anything but most young guys are much into the palm wine tapping and then farming but it is just like saying majority of the young people in Ezikoba are up wine tapas that's a lie, only few can climb that thing cause most people are scared of taking that risk and those few are people born and raised at home.

In summary, "You don't know shit"

Excuse my French

paramakina202:
Are they not living far off from the shore of River Niger?
How many kilometers before you see settlements in both towns?

That main market you have been hearing of stops at the river.

Ndi mmadụ sef.
Ask questions, No. Just generalising up and down.

AlexBells:
Nwokem patuo biko, why are anticipating a flood, so have Japanese left Japan because there is earthquakes, can't you see that is the phobia that is making us see all the bad side of water first,

Sorry for disturbing you.

Before we proceed on anything Igbo again, answer those four questions.
They are basics. All these people you are arguing with know the answer because they are sons of the soil.

AlexBells:
Why are you worried about flood if you are not scared, if there is flood you swim na, those living in lekki nko, you are already giving yourself reason to avoid water, see question "what happens when there is flood?" Sounds like what someone who has water phobia would say, so when you build houses near the road, did you ask yourself what happens when there is accidents

You swim in flood?

Chai, kedu ebe onye nka si?

AlexBells:
Are you not saying that this is peculiar to certain communities as opposed to majority, butterleaf, Ukwa and palm wine, is this what you regards as requiring swimming knowledge, guys just stop being a commedian, butterleaf that they should stay at the bank of the stream sef and wash, lol palmtree do they need to step in the water to tap it, these things are secondary to the water even the Ukwa does not grow in the water, and people who lives 10 miles away from the river would wait for the river before doing all of that, but if they were more of fisherman, it a different ball game

Like I told you, the more you speak, the more it shows that you don't have first hand experience of Igboland.

Answer these few questions before we proceed. It is basic igbo stuff and if you can't get it then I have no reason to engage you further.

1. Ukwa:
i. How do you know a ripe ukwa?
ii. How do they wash ukwa

2. Palm wine:
i. Which time does diochi (palm wine tapper) goes to tap wine
ii. Where do they do it, if it is for commercial quantity.

Any full blooded Igbo man can lick these questions like sweet because no community can say that they are not conversant with both.

Nice one since una no wan get sense.

Just because of Southern oil, you are in middle belt shouting Nigeria or death, now the herdsmen are giving you the other alternative for your wickedness which is death.

No pity from here

2elliot:
I don't want to have issues with you, bro. I will be getting married to one of your sisters next year. So I don't want her to tell her people to increase her bride price because of you.

Nkọgheri. Bride price that you will continue to pay until she dies.

AlexBells:
Bekkay, na that palm wine you don drink this morning lol, so you need to swim before you tap palm wine or before you farm lol, besides is it not rural dwellers that tap palm wine and farm?

Palm wine is tapped in the riverine part of the community after which the diochi brings it out to the land on a canoe to the buyers.

They don't buy fresh palm wine (nkwụ enu) from the diochi on land but on canoe.
This is a basic Igbo stuff any Igbo man knows.

I believe SlayerForever and Co knows that

AlexBells:
I didn't know that Anambra people now need to pass swimming class before they can farm, lol, ofcourse you know most Igbo children of the millennium was bread up in flats with padlock to it

So you don't know that where people in an Igbo community farm is close to the water and you must know how to swim to do so.

Where they wash Ukwa is at the stream.
Where they tap palm wine is at the riverine part of the community.
Same with those that wash bitter leaf etc.

Honestly, the more you speak, the more you make it obvious that you don't have first hand knowledge of how things are in Igboland. More like someone that gets his knowledge from the Internet.

2elliot:
Are you on ice, bro?

Only someone that believes soldiers will ask women to ferry them is on ice.

Oh I forgot you are from where they greet with shots of Ogogoro.

SlayerForever:
You don't know what you're talking.

WTF is that dude talking about?

Where do they tap the palm wine he see people drinking? Or where do they farm those big new yam he see us celebrate.

Mr AlexBells answer these questions.

AlexBells:
Ukwuani, Opobo, Bonny, a quater of Anambra, A quater of Imo, 1/4 of Abia, 1/4 of Anioma, 1/2 of Ikwerre, 1/2 of other Rivers Igbos, 1/10 of Benue Igbos, 1/10 of Enugu, 1/10 of Ebonyi, does that look like a potential good swimming score

Oga, anybody that doesn't know how to swim did not grow up in Igboland.
Or was locked up at their flat during his childhood.

So what you wrote above are total fallacy.
Which one is 1/4 of Anambra?
How do they farm if I may ask you?

2elliot:
Bro! Adaka Boro had a camp and squad in one of the forests in my area. My mom and other women were the cooks for Biafrans and even the Nigerian soldiers as they were forced to provide food for them as the camp in the community. My community is along the river Nun, and it was a very busy route.

Story, story.... Story. Once upon a time?

Biafra never lost anybody to an imaginary people that drowned them.

Biafra actually used water to buy tike during the war like at Obubrah sector, Abonema etc because Nigerian troops can't cross. The few that managed to cross with the help of Adaka Boro strangled him at Okirika buying the troops more time.
Adaka Boro himself doesn't know much about Igbo hinterland waterways. He is only conversant with that along the oil rivers and when his services were no longer needed after Okirika, he was disposed by Adekunle.

Like I told you, the Biafran war is like looking at my palm

paramakina202:
Put on your reading glasses and read again.I never said Onitsha,I said my own community lives at least 1km away from river.

And do they use the water or scared of it?

By the way, what the heck is "put on my reading glasses?"

What is this?

paramakina202:
Op you are right,majority of ndi Igbo seems to live far away from rivers,lakes, take Asaba and Onitsha for example.

It seems you have short term memory

2elliot:
If you have been on this forum for even a year and have been very observant, then you would know I have been a friend of the Igbos. I have no reasons to lie here about the igbos or the experience of the wars in my place.

Then where did it happen?
I know all the experiences in all the sectors like the palm of my hand and in none of them did Ndigbo need anybody to ferry them talkless of women.

AlexBells:
This is a more credible arguments and with this you may agree with me that parents didnt want their kids going near the rivers as apart from mosquitoes, kids are more likely to drawn as such they made up all sorts of stories that the kids imbued to adulthood and passed on, but today mosquitoes are no longer limited to the waterside, and while it remain a threat it is no longer like before but the trend continues, even if we keep the kids away from the waters, why can't our adult get back first. And as at today we are no longer much of a farming community but traders, exporters, importers, manufacturers which all points towards the oceans

"People don't want their kids going close to the river?"

Where do you people come from?

How will they farm if they don't go close to the water?

Please someone should explain to this dude how farming is done in Igboland

paramakina202:
Op you are right,majority of ndi Igbo seems to live far away from rivers,lakes, take Asaba and Onitsha for example.
Even in my community we live at least 1 km away from our river.If not for fear of large body of water ndi would have dominated the whole of Niger Delta region.

Oga your village is not the entire Igboland.
And what is that crap about Onitsha living 1km from their own river when they literally farm in sediment that some can call island in the river?
That should be Mgba Odumodu and mgba obiọcha.

SlayerForever:
I love the forest cover in the southeast. It is a blessing from God. But only few will understand.

That's why we must continue to blend our cities with nature like Enugu City

AlexBells:
The thing here is that instead of looking into a concern you are trying to avoid it, many people had commented on this post and the few of other nationalities that had commented have closer affinity to the waters, while the Igbo ones are withdrawn, why can't that serve as an opener,

I'm from Nsukka, there are much water in Nsukka ranging from the Opi lake network to Ogrugu River and more, people have quite a phobia about swimming especially when there are serious tales of Rivers taking someone, this not a thread for unneeded competition, in fact this not another nationality, your kind of assertion would deny people knowledge of the real concern

You are from, but did your grow up in Nsukka?

Was your thread designed as a survey to know how many Igbo people that can swim?

Oga what you did with your post is fallacy of generalisation aka Black Swan fallacy but unlike others, yours is from your three friends.

I don't know where you people learnt your Geography, but as far as I am concerned, ANAMBRA is a country not a state.
The current president is Obiano while the incoming is his excellency Prof Soludo.

AlexBells:
Hmmm are you serious, well then you are not in touch with reality honestly about 75% of Igbo population can't swim, that would be the highest of any other nationality South of Nigeria

And when did you conduct the research?

Was I counted?

Was the riverine areas of Anambra like Anam and Ogbaru among?
Or Idemili, Ulasi bordering communities among?
Technically, more than 90% of Anambra are directly linked to rivers and to farm, the indigenes must be conversant with water.

Was Abia that is technically on the coast among?
Or Ebonyi that what caused a serious crisis was who will inherit the abandoned Nigerian military boat from BIAFRA war, that should be Oziza in Afikpo counted?

Oga, you and your three friends that were not allowed to go close to water in Lagos does not represent how Ndigbo view water

AlexBells:
And what percentage of Igboland is Ogbaru, I know about Idemmili and I can remember back then I had a couple of friends from there that can't swim, let's assume that there is war, be sincere apart from the Igbos in the navy, can these Ogbaru community defend Entire Igboland's coastal resources or do you think let's say we have a war with the Yorubas that these people alone can take on the Yorubas on the high sea.

This is real concern, no one wants to discredit the Igbos, on the majority most Igbos can't swim, Ogbaru is just a community, even the entire Anambra state is not up to 20% of AlaIgbo, even if everyone in Anambra can swim that is a paltry 20%, is that comparable to other nationalities where about 55% can swim ?

Idemili is a river, so what are you saying?

One thing about towns in Idemili is that the students are fond of spending unnecessary time in the river doing what teenagers do.

So which part of Idemili did you get your statistics from?
Is it Oba, Obosi, ogidi, Akwukwu, Ojoto or where?

To tell you the truth, you are the first allegedly igbo person I have had contact with that can't swim.

2elliot:
As a matter of urgency, every Igbo man must endeavour to learn how to swim. It was one of the factors that caused their defeat in the riverine areas around the Niger delta. Stories abound how Igbo soldiers were drown in their hundreds in my area by women and men they commanded to ferry them from one riverine community to another. In the middle of the journey, they will rock the boat and cause it to sink, as the soldiers drown, they will swim to safety. You may think swimming talents is not needed in wars in this age and time, but it could save one or two lives still.

You people and made up lies eh.

Which sector of the war did that happen?

During the war, most of the logistics, Ammunitions and refugees were moved by water