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honesttalk21:
The core claim does not collapse it is being relabeled rather than addressed. Redefining al-Muhajirun as later mercenaries for Tabuk does not fit Q8:72.The verse treats al-Muhajirun and al-Ansar as already established groups with binding duties of support, protection, and inheritance. That is long-term communal law, not recruitment language, and it presupposes an existing social split.
Q59:8–9 describes expulsion from homes and wealth followed by reception by an already settled community. Q9:40 adds flight under pursuit, and Q22:39 allows fighting only after expulsion and harm. The sequence is consistent: expulsion, departure, refuge, reception, then conflict.
The calendar point is similar. The Hijri system under Umar does not create the event it dates; it anchors administration to an already recognised historical turning point.
The demand for a single Mecca to Medina sentence misreads how ancient texts work. The Exodus is never given in one explicit line either. Its movement from Egypt to Canaan is spread across Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and later texts, yet it is still treated as one migration because the audience already knows the shared event.
The Qur’anic pattern is the same in form: expulsion (59:, reception (59:9), flight (9:40), and legal distinction between emigrants and helpers (8:72). Like the Exodus tradition, it encodes a known event across multiple passages instead of restating it in one label.
So the issue is not absence of reference, but refusal to read it in its own narrative style.

the hijra of isrealites from egypt to cannan was well documented----that is how YAHWEH roll He makes things well documented from point A to Point B.


now show us that Allah in the Al Quran Kareem that muslims went from mecca to medina as refugees-----do you understand.


Now show me an unequivocal unambigous statement from allah that muslim moved from mecca to medina as refugees hijra.

honesttalk21:
Saying no evidence doesn't engage what's already been laid out, it bypasses the structure of the argument rather than testing it. The Qur'anic material presents a connected narrative across passages. Q59:8 describes expulsion and loss of property. Q59:9 describes a receiving community providing support. Q9:40 depicts a moment of flight under pursuit with divine protection. Q8:72 names two legally distinct communities those who emigrated and those who gave shelter with defined rights between them. Q22:39 introduces permission to respond to aggression after expulsion, not before. Read together, the sequence is consistent: pressure, forced departure, reception, and only then conditional permission to fight. That order matters. Migration precedes resistance in the text, not the other way around.
That coherence is reinforced by the text's own legal language. Al-Muhajirun and al-Ansar are not rhetorical flourishes. They are categories carrying defined obligations within inheritance law, social responsibility, loyalty, and communal authority across multiple chapters. Legal categories reflect existing social realities. They do not float above events that never happened. You do not legislate around fiction.
The administrative point runs the same direction. The Hijri calendar, formalised under Umar ibn al-Khattab, takes the Hijrah as its fixed starting point because it marked a recognised communal turning point significant enough to anchor time itself. Civilisations do not date their calendars from ambiguous or invented moments. They date from events their entire community already knows and agrees upon.
So the question was never whether every detail appears in one sentence. It is whether the cumulative pattern across narrative sequence, legal structure, and early communal memory coheres around a real migratory event. It does. Across every test applied from textual, legal, administrative, the same event appears at the centre.
Repeating no evidence after all of that is not a conclusion. It is a refusal to engage. And a refusal to engage is not the same as a rebuttal.

Writting long sequences of words without truth is not gonna help you.
All the verses you Quoted I have answered with facts not emotion or years of lies.

That you believed a lie for years dosent make it true, that a whole village believed a lie doesn't make it true------FACT.

YOU WANT ME TO BE REPEATING MYSELF WHEN YOU KEEP THROWING VAGUE EMPTY NO EVIDENCE VERSES.

YATHRIB means a city , the city and this can mean any city .

MUHAJIRUN this are mercenaries who are willing to die called to join in the battle of batuk , badr, invading of the 3 Jewish clans like Khybar,
THIS MUHAJIRUN were promised war booty and if they die they will get war booty on heaven.

NO HIJRA in 9:40 because this is where the lies sparked, Qutham a.k.a was driven out from point A and he went to point B which is a cave with one companion who was with him, so the subsequent verses encouraged MUHAJIRUN to join Muhammad in the JIHAD.
note I said driven out which I have explained above . Since the Quran didn't say WHAT LOCATION how dare you corrupt the word of Allah?

ANSAR these are the people whom the Muhajiruns that left there places to join Muhammad in JIHAD meets , for example if a Muhajirun or mujahadeen leaves LONDON to join BOKO HARAM in the northern Nigeria to kill non Muslims and take there land as prescribed in the verses you stated above the fellow Muslims he meet in northern Nigeria are the ANSAR. those who are there already.
More example: Islamic terrorist in Nigeria are the Muhajirun/ mujahadeens and the normal Conservative Muslims like you on nairaland are the ANSAR. You are the white washers.

AL MAKKAH there is no where In those verses that any people in massive number were persecuted that they left MAKKAH....point A ... no where.

JiHAD. all the verses quoted are incitement to steal kill and destroy non Muslims, in such raids blacks ( our ancestors) were ambushed , killed and sold as slaves ,the population of blacks were so reduced that you can't find 10 Indigenous blacks in Arabia again, infact Muhammad ( a white man)said anyone who say he is black should be killed, muhamed owns black slaves , sold backs .
They invaded communities who mind there business,people s business were stolen caravan looted by Muhajiruns

No mecca to medina ....back to the topic question where in the Quran can I find the hijra from mecca to medina?


Take away: the so-called islamic hijra wasn't even known until under a caliphate that now decide to create a date.... that means it was human origin not divine command or recognition. Allah didn't recognise it....that is why Quran didn't say anything about it-----muhamed didn't say anything about it.....

After his death many years later it was fabricated.

Where in the Quran can we find HIJRA from mecca to medina by muslim refugees----an unequivocal unambiguous statement from Allah in the Quran?


And if you can't give me the answer---- you will be ignored------as no evidence.

honesttalk21:
The Qur’an is not vague on the Hijrah. It gives you expulsion (Q59:, refuge by those already settled (Q59:9), the flight itself with concealment (Q9:40), and then names the two legal communities built around it in Q8:72; those who migrated and those who gave them shelter. That is not a missing story. That is a complete sequence told in the Qur’an’s own style.

The legal point is where the objection dies. You do not build law on fiction. Al-Muhajirun and those who sheltered them were not poetic labels. They were legal categories with real consequences in loyalty, inheritance, distribution, and communal standing. Law presumes an actual event behind it. You do not legislate around metaphor.

The calendar point fails the same way. The Hijri calendar was standardised later under ʿUmar r.a for administration. That did not invent the migration; it simply dated from it. Formalising a calendar is not the same as creating the event it measures.

And demanding one neat sentence naming both cities is not a historical standard but a modern reading habit. The Qur’an does not narrate like a government file. It speaks by linked passages, legal consequences, and historical reference spread across the text. That is not confusion. That is how the Qur’an speaks.

So no evidence

This life sef.... a lie can run for 1,400 years but one day the truth will outrun it.


So unequivocally unambiguously there is no hija from mecca to medina by Muslims as refugees

Empiree:
Well, i am not concerned about op's opinion of me. He's entitled to his opinion whatever he thinks i am. My concern is, can you provide evidence where i support them for cursing or abusing Albayt and sahaba?. I will like to see that please.

I also will like for you to provide evidence where Allah forbids friendship and support for your fellow muslims?. In the Quran, we see many verses talk about brotherhood. Āyat al-Ukhuwah) is the tenth verse of the Quranic chapter "Al-Hujurat". The verse is about brotherhood of believers with each other; which says: "the believers are but brothers, so make settlement between your brothers. And fear Allah that you may receive mercy (49:10).


Unless you can proof kufr of entire shia by ijma of the Ummah of Muhammad Ibn Abdullah(saw), we can review that. And dont forget to provide evidence where i fought sunnah. Please quote me. Thank you


You have the right to doubt anything. That's your prerogative.

Where in the Quran can we find the SHAHADA?


you can answer me here or in the thread I asked the question

Shkran

dofman:
Don’t tell me you did not know that Paul is your religion founder 🤣

You are Paulin nah

Where in the Quran can I find SHAHADA?

Empiree:
You guys haven't grown up yet?.

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Where in the Al Quran kareem can I find the shahada?


Tell us baba Agba

Lordly13:
A religion that supports the a grown man abusing a 9 year old girl and calling it marriage. Why I'm I not surprised

Kuffar

Antlisiam:
Bobo answer the question dem ask you and leave story

E tire me o

Them ask question
You say you know infact you go end career and disgrace blackfirex-----he said Ngwanu
Abd jumped from insult to insult, even the silent readers are ashamed of him


What a waste

Ordinary find SHAHADA IN THE QURAN O?

IF I ASK WHAT WAS ADAM S WIFE NAME AND HOW EVE WAS CREATED ACCORDING TO THE QURAN NEPA GO TAKE LIGHT

doffman:
Just confess , you don’t have anything again . Pele .

This your operandi don cast nah . Pauline 🤣

Is the word Pauline supposed to be insult? You keep repeating it like broken record

Instead of providing answer you think by shouting or telling us the ORIKI of your family will make you look smart....actually the opposite


Where in the Quran can we find the SHAHADA ?

THIS TIME DONT TELL US YOUR ORIKI
DONT PANIC
IF YOU ARE CLUELESS MOVE ALONG
SHUKRAAN

where in the Quran can ww find hijra from mecca to medina by muslims refugees?

honesttalk21:
The demand for one sentence naming both cities is not how the Qur'an communicates history. Meaning appears across linked passages. Read together: 8:30, threat of expulsion,9:40, expulsion, flight, cave, pursuit, 8:72, migration and reception, 59:8, loss of homes and wealth 59:9, shelter and support 4:97–100, leaving oppression for refuge. The sequence is consistent. Threat → expulsion → migration → loss → reception.

9:40 shows two in flight and concealment, while other passages describe an organised, settled community. That contrast marks different stages, not contradiction. Al-Muhajirun is a defined category tied to rights and identity. Such a category presupposes real, recognized migration within the text’s framework. The Qur’an does not give a labeled sentence. It gives a coherent pattern of forced departure and refuge across multiple verses.

So no evidence from Allah SWT in the Quran Al kareem that there was a Hijra from mecca to medina by persecuted Muslims as refugees

Now move along
Shooter


So the Qur'an is incoherent to such a new calender but if it to kill infidels he will spelt it out

The Quran needs your help white wash to save the Quran a whole word of Allah ....what a shame


How can a whole big occasion like the AH be missing unknown unspecified vague clueless empty confusing.

honesttalk21:
We all know the Nairaland forum has moderation rules. Posts that drift into insults or inflammatory language get taken down all the time, no matter who writes them. That’s about tone control, not a coordinated effort against any one person.

Now, reducing 9:40 to expelled, cave, end leaves out the structure the text itself gives you. It opens with akhrajahu alladhina kafaru; a defined group driving him out, then situates two people in a cave under pressure, followed by fear, reassurance, and a turn where their opponents are brought low. It reads as a complete episode with a trajectory, not a loose fragment you can stop halfway. The alternatives you suggest in market, house, a private dispute don’t fit those constraints. They don’t match a collective opposition, they don’t account for the fear of pursuit, and they don’t explain why the moment is invoked as evidence of divine support. Once you remove those limits, almost anything becomes possible but that’s no longer guided by the text.

On Mecca and Medina, the Qur’an often works by reference, not repetition. Terms like al-muhajirun already assume a known migration. You don’t get a category like that from people shifting within the same town; it presumes a meaningful relocation the first audience already understood. And on tafsīr, interpretation isn’t optional; you’re doing it too or will you claim you aren't?
The real question is whether it’s anchored to the wording and flow of the verse, or stretched until it loses shape. A careful reading works within those boundaries rather than dissolving them.

So no evidence that muslims were persecuted that they fled mecca to medina as refugees?

So there was no movement from mecca medina in the Quran?

Don't create assumptions for me ...show me

The verses you pointed out were a call for jihad
And the Muhajirun left there homes to join Qutham a.k.a Muhammad to join in his war against Jews and perceived enemies

It is all in the verses I am not the one who puts it there .....A CALL TO JIHAD TO MUHAJIRUN THAY THE ANSARS WILL HELP.


Since you are not saying anything rather than interjections and conjunctions


I ASK AGAIN IN ZAIK NAIK VOICE .. WHEEE IN THE QURAN CAN WE HAVE AN UNEQUIVOAL UNAMBIGUOUS STATEMENT THAT MUSLIMS MOVED FROM MECCA TO MEDINA AS REFUGEES ?

IF YOU DONT HAVE THE ANZWER KINDLY MOVE ALONG.
****concerning ban or removal of my posts they have allays been nice no insults.... you and your minions knows what you did...

Pastorsarynzay:
It Donald trump election and not Obama hope you get it that Nigeria is a state of concern, go to court format Don cast you rigg you die

No Nigeria is Nigeria

ADC will be so popular that it will scare the APC
Infact they will try and pitch the 3 presidential candidates against themselves ...though the outcome is ATIKU OBI OR OBI KWANKWASO


ADC WILL WIN
BUT APC WILL BE DECALARED WINNER

Freeze007:
Thank you Leader Olumba Olumba Obu

Make I remove your name from those going to Al jannah...infact your 72 virgins have been reduced to 7 virgins ...

One more word I will reduce it again

Kukutente23:
Very true
The same Allah in the Qur'an was known to have a spirit
That spirit was breathed into Maryam to birth Isa
So Isa is of Allah which is why he's the only one recorded in the Qur'an who is alive till this day and coming back to earth
Even the Quran ended up supporting the Trinity concept

The trinity is an will always be an indomitable divine concept.

In the old testament Moses says behold Israel the Lord our God is ECHAD( one compound unity)

The Quran is filled with Allah praising Allah
The verses are filled Allah worshipping Allah 2 vs 138


Infact Bismi is patterned towards the TRINITY ( A TOPIC I WILL POST BEFORE I LEAVE NAIRALAND)

Bismil-Aabi wal-Ibni war-Ruuhil-Qudus
In the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy spirit.

Bismi llahi (1) Rahamoni(2 JESUS TITILE USED BY THE SYRIAC ARAMAIC CHURCH) RAHIM (3 HOLY SPIRIT)

LET ME STOP HERE

My objection according to Quran


1. THERE IS NOTHING CALLED TAWHID IN THE QURAN, I MEAN YOU CANT FIND THAT WORD IN THE QURAN.


2. TAWHEED IS AN ARABIC WORD T-W-H whose root word means PART OF -----ONE OF.
IF ANYONE TELL YOU TAWHEED MEANS ONE ONLY IT IS A LIE ....ASK HIM FOR THE ROOT WORD.


3.IN THE QURAN WE SEE THAT QUTHAM A.K.A MUHAMMAD SHARED IN THE GLORY OF ALLAH AND MUSLIM PRAYS TO MUHAMMAD.
EXAMPLE DURING THE TASHAHHUD... MUSLIMS PRAYS TO A DEAD MAN.


4.ALLAH IN THE QURAN IS ONE OF ( WHICH BACKS UP MY CLAIM) ONE OF THE CREATOR, ONE OF THE DECEIVERS


5. IN THE QURAN YOU FIND ALLAH USING WE US----- IT IS NOT ROYAL PLURALITY ( even the royal plurality means the king is speaking on behalf of HIS NOBlLES or CABINET)

6.CALIPH UTHMAN BURN THE QURANS THAT CONTAINS THE REAL TRUTH...

LET ME STOP HERE

IF YOU WANT EVIDENCE LET ME KNOW

honesttalk21:
Unsubstantiated claims of minions report and entry deletions. If true at all, that is a platform moderation issue, not an argument.

1. Akhrajahu alladhina kafaru those who disbelieved drove him out is not vague
You are trying to dissolve alladhina kafaru, those who disbelieved into any possible group in any possible situation but grammatically and contextually this is not an undefined crowd in a random dispute. It is a collective, defined opposition category in Qur'anic usage. Those who reject the message and act against the Prophet's mission. In Surah 9, the audience already knows exactly who is being referred to. The Qur'an does not reintroduce them as strangers. The move from those who disbelieved drove him out to "could be anything from marketplace to domestic dispute is not tafsīr. It is removing semantic constraints from the language.

2. The narrative sequence is intact and bounded. You listed the sequence correctly then tried to detach it from its referent; expulsion, cave, companion, fear of pursuit, divine reassurance, protection, outcome of safety. A sequence does not require every geographical detail to be explicitly spelled out. It requires coherence of events, not enumeration of locations. What you are demanding is if the Qur'an doesn't name the exact starting point and destination, the sequence is undefined. That is not how narrative language works in any Semitic text, classical Arabic or otherwise.

3. The it could be anything move collapses meaning entirely. Your list of possibilities; Kaaba, market, theft, domestic dispute is not interpretive analysis but deliberate semantic indeterminacy. But here is the problem. If alladhina kafaru; those who disbelieved, can mean random merchants, family members, unrelated bystanders, or domestic disputants, the phrase loses all function in the Qur'an. It no longer identifies a group. It becomes meaningless noise. The Qur'an does not operate with meaningless labels.

4. Tabuk context is not optional it is structural. Surah 9 is explicitly about mobilisation and community response. Within that structure, verse 40 functions as a past stabilising reference supporting present action. That is not replacement of meaning. It is internal argumentation. Removing that function breaks the rhetorical structure of the passage.

5. Wiith Hijrah and al-Muhajirun are not dependent on the word Hijrah,you are repeating the same linguistic fallacy. If the label is not explicitly repeated, the concept is not present. But Qur'anic discourse regularly names categories al-muhajirun, those who emigrated, al-ansar, those who gave support then references the historical reality that generated those categories without repeating the full narrative every time. That is how all historical legal language works.

6. The tafsir accusation is self-defeating. You say tafsīr is shirk, human addition. But the moment you said it could be the Kaaba, the market, the street, a domestic dispute you made interpretive choices about what the text means and what it doesn't. That is not plain reading. That is assignment of meaning. The real issue is not interpretation versus no interpretation. It is which interpretation the language of the text actually supports. There are only two coherent options. Either the Qur'an uses structured narrative shorthand referring to a known historical event which the early Muslim community already recognised and transmitted consistently or the Qur'an is so semantically unstable that basic categories like alladhina kafaru; those who disbelieved, and sequence of events collapse into unlimited speculation. Only one of those preserves the language as language. The other dissolves it.

The ban and removal happened every time so don't taqiyya me . YOU ARE AMONG THOSE FLAGGING ME ON THIS PLATFORM


Back to the topic.

You still fail to point out that When Qutham a.k.a Muhammad was driven out it meant from mecca to medina..

The verse explicitly said he was driven out and he went to the cave--------that is it..

You are the one trying to help the Quran by saying it means mecca to medina, then I point out it could also mean
1.driven out from inside kabba because he will go inside and break rhe idols

2.driven out around kaaba because he will be insulting the calm worshippers

3. Driven out from the road where he stays to insult the forefathers of the worshippers

4.Driven out from home when his wives discovered he was sleeping with another slave girl on there beds after promising nit to do so.

5.Driven out when when he took the war booty and didn't give others there own share

6. Driven out when he obstruct the caravan entering mecca

And he was driven out point A ...... and he moved to the cave point B
Is that mecca to medina? In that while vs 35 to 45 the word H-J-R was not used
The Quran didn't say he was driven out from mecca and he went to medina.

And cut the gish galloping that the Quran dosent have to say it, THEN DONT IMPLY WHAT HE DIDNT SAY------- MECCA TO MEDINA

INFACT THE VS 40 INSIDE 35 TO 45 IS ABOUT JIHAD when people were unwilling to fight as the religion became bloody . HENCE the reference to the cave that 1 person was with Muhammad and if people don't join in this holy jihad alllah will raise Muhajirun to join the Ansar


Appealing to tasfirs 400 years later words of men to white wash the embarrassing embarrassment in the Quran

Back to the question show me one unequivocal unambiguous statement that HiJRA muslim move from mecca to medica as refugees?

I saw this coming

Once the supreme Court favours ADC

Things will start happening
Defection from APC pDP to APC will be massive


Adc will win the election but TINUBU will be announced

You don't like it go to COURT

Antlisiam:
dẹpẹ, tell AI make e suggest another name 4u nau

If I can have another platform to discuss islamic dilemma...I think i will move from nairaland

You will sit down write replies ...only for it to be removed ...and you banned.

Do you know another platform please suggest to me in my gmail

To the MoD or the minions who report , removed or ban me

I will send replies and it will be removed and I will be banned

My discussion was smooth my comments are precised....one of my brother Gabrielshow24 was banned for 10 years

Removing my replies that is just low


If you don't want me replying say so... but it all showed you are cowards scared

@seun

honesttalk21:
You’re treating the absence of a label as if it cancels the event but that’s not how the Qur’an communicates. The Qur’an does not operate by repeating technical terms in every instance. It conveys meaning through sequence, context, and shared historical awareness. If a passage describes a battle, it doesn’t need to say this is a battle every time, conventional English writing regards often repetition of words poorly. The same applies here.

In 9:40, the wording is precise; akhrajahu alladhina kafaru, those who disbelieved drove him out or expelled him.That is not neutral movement. Akhrajahu is forced expulsion under pressure from hostile forces. Then the verse gives you a sequence in expulsion, retreat to a cave, one companion, fear of pursuit, divine reassurance and eventual safety. That is not random displacement. That is a coherent narrative of flight under persecution. Calling it being driven out from anywhere strips the sequence of meaning and ignores how language actually works. Then you have idh huma fi al-gahr, when the two of them were in the cave. This is not a floating image. It is a specific reference recognized by the first audience, the same audience the Qur’an was addressing directly. The text assumes that recognition. It does not pause to re-explain what they already know. Now look at the structure of the passage. 9:38–45 is about mobilization. Within that, 9:40 inserts a reminder If you do not support him, Allah already supported him… That only works if it points to a known past event that proves the point. The present command depends on that past reality. Removing the historical referent collapses the argument the verse is making.

Then the issue you haven’t addressed at all is that the Qur’an repeatedly refers to al-Muhajirun,a defined group, with legal, social, and moral standing. A named category of those who emigrated is meaningless without an actual migration. The Qur’an is speaking to people who lived that reality. It doesn’t narrate every detail because it doesn’t need to. It is invoking, not introducing. So no, identifying the cave incident as part of the Hijrah is not adding to the Qur’an. It is reading the text the way it demands to be read through its language, through its internal structure, through the lived context of its first audience. What is being added is the claim that every event must be explicitly labeled in order to be real. That standard doesn’t come from the Qur’an rather it’s imposed on it. And dismissing tafsir as shirk doesn’t solve that problem. It just abandons the very tools required to read the text coherently.

I have replied to all the verses you posted but you and your minions reported it for removal and I was banned.

Concerning 9 vs 40 it says he was expelled, from where to where ? It could be from kabba , it could be from the market , it could be from the street, it could be when he stole the war booty and the people discovered, it could be when his wives discovered he f****ked a slave girl he captured by banditry in the bed of his wife, it could be when he is insulting the people who came to worship, it could be alot of things that made them expelled him from that vicinity------and he went to the CAVE -------and that was it it didn't say anything else

You are projecting your thinking to the Quran and Allah said anyone who adds to his word will burn in 🔥 fire


Tasfir are commentary of men 150 to 400 years after Qutham has died.
Hadith are words of men "dem talk say" 200 years after Quthams death
And all these books are bidah innovation works of men , no where did the Quran say men will help me where I am incoherent.--------don't get angry at me ,get angry at Incoherent Quereyana

Lastly the verse never mentioned HIJra... verse 35 to 45 talks about MILITARY JIHAD BATTLE OF BATUK I think around 630 or 631 .

The verses show promises of war booty and if anyone dies promise of heavenly booty is that hijra or JIHAD

Now let me warn you again that the Quran is the word of Allah PRECISE CLEAR DETAILED UNCREATED DIRECT SPEECH OF ALLAH , you trying to insert words or white wash it ---- you are committing shirk



Take away : the verse you provided showed that nothing like HIJRa the entire chapter is a call to JIHAD A CALL FOR MILITARY EXPEDITION ON NON MUSLIMS PROMISES OF WAR BOOTY ( SLAVES LIKE SUFFYIAT , TREASURES FROM KHYBAR, kidnapping for ransome and so on)
I told you the more you try to white wash more decay will appear.

Tekbil

Allahu akbar


Why are they persecuting him for his beliefs
This is islamaphobia

He is following the sunnah of the best of mankind
This is shariah

Walahi this people are against our religion

Islam will win
Tekbil
Allah akbar

uunus:
https://youtu.be/s4V8gkQP5Jc?si=d4kLDBplLtcWhIOs

Islamic Muhammad owns black slaves , traded them as nearly nothing.... he hated black people or anything black... infact there is a fatwa that says anyone who says he is black should be killed

He hated our ancestors in practice he only pays lip service

He started slave trade in Africa

Do you need evidence?

SHOW ME ONE GOOD THING I CAN LEARN FROM ISLAMIC MUHAMMAD?


JUST ONE

Salamwalaikum habibi

Nice topic and explanation


Please can you tell me 1 good character I can learn from Islam or Islamic Muhammad?

Please just one

Shukraan

Hadith is an innovation

10 different kinds of Quran is an innovation , yes....we have warsh , Haffs , Duri and others


Putting chapters and verses in the Quran are innovation


The shahada is an innovation because it is not in the Quran


The mudlim calendar 🗓 AH is an innovation because there is nothing like Hijra in the Quran where Muslims were oppresesd and they travelled from mecca to medina as refugees. To those who goes to hajj to mecca

Tawheed is an innovation, as the word never existed in the Quran

Praying to Muhammad during Tashahhud is sinful,necromancer and innovation.

There is no scientific miracles in the Quran not even 1


5 pillars of faith is a complete innovation as the Quran never talks about it, it was invented.

The night journey of Muhammad from mecca to Jerusalem to heaven was a complete lie and innovation.

Muhammad was a title not a name ... interestingly the personality that they used that for is YASU AL MASSIH, Infact you find it on syriac aramaic liturgy, coins and on the rock dome .

That Allah never enter his creation is a lie, as more than 10,000 times he enter into creation

Let stop here

If you want evidences let me know
Some are on my topics in the islamic section

You used Quran 9 vs 40 to say the meccans wants to kill muhamed and he hid inside a cave with another person.

To fully understand this let's read previous verse and after verses to get the content.

Quran 9 vs 35 to 45

Surah At-Tawbah (9:35–45)
​35. On the Day when that will be heated in the fire of Hell and with it their foreheads, their sides, and their backs will be branded, [and it will be said], "This is what you hoarded for yourselves, so taste what you used to hoard."

​36. Indeed, the number of months with Allah is twelve [lunar] months in the register of Allah [from] the day He created the heavens and the earth; of these, four are sacred. That is the correct religion, so do not wrong yourselves during them. And fight against the disbelievers collectively as they fight against you collectively. And know that Allah is with the righteous [who fear Him].

​37. Indeed, the postponing [of a sacred month] is an increase in disbelief by which those who have disbelieved are led [further] astray. They allow it one year and forbid it another, to agree with the number which Allah has forbidden and [thus] enjoy what Allah has forbidden. Made pleasing to them is the evil of their deeds; and Allah does not guide the disbelieving people.

​38. O you who have believed, what is [the matter] with you that, when you are told to go forth in the cause of Allah, you adhere heavily to the earth? Are you satisfied with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But what is the enjoyment of worldly life compared to the Hereafter except a little.

​39. If you do not go forth, He will punish you with a painful punishment and will replace you with another people, and you will not harm Him at all. And Allah is over all things competent

​40. If you do not aid the Prophet - Allah has
already aided him when those who disbelieved had driven him out ,as one of two, when they were in the cave and he said to his companion, "Do not grieve; indeed Allah is with us." And Allah sent down His tranquillity upon him and supported him with angels you did not see and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowest, while the word of Allah - that is the highest. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

​41. Go forth, whether light or heavy, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the cause of Allah. That is better for you, if you only knew.

​42. Had it been an easy gain and a moderate journey, the hypocrites would have followed you, but distant to them was the journey. And they will swear by Allah, "If we could have, we would have come out with you," destroying themselves [through false oaths], and Allah knows that indeed they are liars.

​43. Allah has pardoned you, [O Muhammad]; why did you give them permission [to remain behind] before it was clear to you who were truthful and you knew the liars?

​44. Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day would not ask permission of you to be excused from striving with their wealth and their lives. And Allah is Knowing of those who fear Him.

​45. Only those would ask permission of you who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and whose hearts have doubted, and they, in their doubt, are hesitating.


From the verses above you will find out that Allah is calling muslims to come and join in fighting and invading lands and community
This battle is called BATTLE OF BATUK it happened around 629 or 631, it was the last raid or banditry before Qutham a.k.a Muhammad died.


Look at the verses it was about threatening those who don't want to join vs 39, promising booty to those who join vs 38.... so you see there was nothing like journey from mecca to medina

Then let's go to verse 40... in that verse it says Allah protected Muhammad in the cave when he was driven out ( which can be from anywhere, in the market where he goes to insult the sahabas. Or in kabba where he insult the family of those who came to do tawaf and kiss the Blackstone, or driven out when he try to sleep with a dead woman etc)

So there is nothing in that verse that says it was mecca or medina ...or he moved from mecca to medina.

The Quran is the word of Allah very detailed, anyone who adds to his words is committing SHIRK ...YOU KUFFAR


Everyone notice in the entire Quran 9 vs 35 to 45 . No arabic word of Hijra was used ... even in verse 40 no word of hijra was used by Allah SWT

Remember HIJRA IS A JOURNEY FROM MECCA TO MEDINA