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Antlisiam:
Eleha
And
Chiigidi

Eleha chigidi olowo otun meji

jaephoenix:
Why do u I'm panicking or clueless

It means your words and claims are contradicting eachother


Are you clueless?

Antlisiam:
You asked for the point of reference for his two right hands, dem give you but still complaining. Chigiidi ni allah

Ogbenu tan

Islam will make a big claim

When you look at internal evidence and outward evidence it contradict itself.



Claim : Allah is not like his creation
Look at evidence: Allah has 2 right hands, has face covered with veil like eleha

gloryman91:
By

Not just one just ; The Greatest And Best Man On Earth 🌎 sent by Allah (SWT) to perfect Islam as religion for entire Mankind as all other prophets before has been doing.

Islam doesn't discriminate among Prophets.

Can you show me evidence for what you posted above

Incognito403:
No, it's disbelievers that are going to hell. No doubt about that.

Go and look for it as you looked for the one you quoted. Or are you only interested in verses and hadith that support your bias?

Actually, the best deceiver is the idol that got his son shouting "why art thou forsaken me".

Why are you panicking?

Are you scared ?

You made a claim-----that muslims will go into hell to save sinners

Now I ask you show me the evidence from the Quran and hadiths


Now don't panic or jump around

Incognito403:
No, it's disbelievers that are going to hell. No doubt about that.

Go and look for it as you looked for the one you quoted. Or are you only interested in verses and hadith that support your bias?

Actually, the best deceiver is the idol that got his son shouting "why art thou forsaken me".

Why are you panicking?
Are u scared?


You claimed that muslims will be sent to hell to rescue sinners ---- now show me from the Quran and hadith


Don't be scared

Incognito403:
It's one thing to visit a place, it's another thing to participate. Prophet Ibrahim was thrown in fire but was never burnt.

Believers will even go into hell to remove some sinners without being affected by fire in anyway.

However, according to the Qur'an every disbeliever will be in hell forever. This should bother a disbeliever more.

So you mean after all the allahu akbar when you die you will be sent to hell straight?

You said muslims will be in hell to save sinners? Can you show me the evidence from the Quran and hadiths---‐-but wait o I thought no one can save sinners?


What should bother you is -----how are you sure that Allah who is the best deceiver plan is to take you to hell first wants you to be there forever? Are you clueless?

honesttalk21:
Don't you just like making unfounded statements? Show clearly where I; who you mischievously refer to as an Arab slave despite knowing differently, I dare you to quote the statements I have contradicted myself with. Unsubstantiated claims make invalid discussion.

Show me an unequivocal unambiguous statement from the Quran where Allah says muslims refugee moved from mecca to medina as hijra ?

gloryman91:
Stop writing rubbish on what you don't know anything about.

Please can you educate me ?

Tell me one good thing about islam or Allah or Muhammed or Quran?

Please don't panic

Please just 1 not 2 ------just one

Gabrielshow26:
It’s truly poetic how Honesttalk21 spends so much time polishing his prose to hide the fact that he’s essentially standing on a trapdoor👀. Obviously, you aren't engaging with my logic; you are trying desperately to put my "methodology" on trial to distract from the fact that your "perfect🤕 Book👀" is missing its own GPS coordinates🥱.

You are also desperately trying to narrow the scope of "all things" because the alternative—admitting Allah forgot the names of His own holy cities—is a theological nightmare. Let’s hammer this home. Go hammers🎉😁

Honesttalk21, your response is a masterpiece of special pleading. You aren't defending the Quran; you are defending the Tafsir (interpretations) of men who had to invent explanations for why an 'omniscient' god was so vague🤧. Your citation of Ibn Kathir to argue that 'clarity' only means 'guidance in belief' is calamitous. Congratulations, you’ve just demoted Allah😂. If Allah says the Quran is a 'clarification for all things' (16:89), and Ibn Kathir says, 'Well, He didn't actually mean all things, just the rules,' then you are choosing the word of a 14th-century scholar over the literal word of your god.🤷 Is that how much you think of Allah?👀 Let me ask you, Is Allah capable of being precise? I think the answer should be Yes. Is He capable of naming cities? Yes.
Did He? No.
Thus, you are treating 'omniscience' like a data plan with limited coverage👀. If the Quran is 'perfect,' it shouldn't need Ibn Kathir to come in 700 years later and apologize for its lack of geographical detail.🤨.

You also meritoriously claimed I’m 'borrowing' the authority of Hadith to prosecute you, then 'dismantling' it to block your defense😂. You’ve missed the point entirely. I’m not saying the Hadith transmission is a 'reliable historical science'; I’m pointing out that your religion is a 1,400-year-old game of 'Telephone.'👀 The fact that you need the Hadith to find Mecca and Medina proves the Quran is incomplete. If the 'perfect Book'👀 requires a 'second Book' (collected 200 years later) to make sense of the first one, then the first one isn't 'complete'🤨. I’m not 'rigging' the standard; I’m simply pointing out that your house is built on a foundation (the Quran) that can’t even hold up its own roof without 200-year-old wooden pillars (the Hadith)🥱.

I noticed in your write up that you seem to argue that the Torah foregrounds geography while the Quran centers on 'trust😂.' This is a hilarious way of saying the Bible is grounded in reality while the Quran is grounded in abstraction.
If a God is speaking to mankind for all time, why would He provide a 'blank map'?👀 You say naming 'Mecca to Medina' isn't a reasonable requirement. Why not? It’s one word. One😮‍💨. 'Trust and sacrifice' are great, but they happen in real places . If the Quran is 'verbatim divine dictation'🤔 and the Bible is 'inspired but human,' yet the 'human' book gets the maps right while the 'Divine👀'(emphasis mine😁) book stays silent, any rational reader knows which one is tethered to history and which one is a collection of 7th-century 'fables of the ancients.'🥱

Let me also address your claim that legal instruction and geographical narration are different 'categories.'🤕 Fine. Let’s use your category. The Quran is 'clear' on morals and law, right? Then why does it tell us to pray (Salah) but never once explains how to actually perform it?👀 For that, you again have to run to the Hadith🤦🏾‍♂️. If the Quran is 'complete guidance' but fails to explain the most important 'guidance' (the 5 daily prayers) among other things blackfirex has shown including but not limited to the 5 pillars of faith, then your definition of 'complete' is effectively 'Empty🥱.'

In conclusion, you’ve admitted the Quran is a topographical ghost town. You’ve admitted as well that it requires later human interpretation to be 'complete.😂' You’ve also admitted it mirrors pre-modern generic speech. Thus, you’re not doing 'neutral analysis'; you’re doing Damage Control🤨. You are defending a 'Genius'👀 who failed the geography test, the biology test, and the 'clarity' test, and your only excuse is, 'Well, he wasn't trying to pass those tests anyway!'😂 What an omniscient god! If a supposed 'perfect god' can't be bothered to be specific, why should we believe he’s 'The Truth' (Al-Haqq) instead of just another 7th-century campfire story? 🥱

Any more lies?

My brother I have posted and replied but all removed .


To the Arabian slave quoting and contradicting himself since the AI is the one talking--- as for me Ebenezer .

A confused Book that make audacious claims but when you open it you see lies and conjectures.


I tire o ---- is like someone asking you to vote APC while APC is al zuttung Nigeria

jaephoenix:
Those passages are all in the bible. Or dont u read your bible again?

So you are clueless


Why are you panicking

Basic123:
Instead of you to embrace a new knowledge,you people will be using claim of taqiyyah to continue swimming in your Ignorance.If we try to lecture you on what taqiyyah means and its different from what you know,you will still claim taqiyyah.You can see that you have use the word 'taqiyyah' to shut the door of knowledge on yourself.

Bring those verse with scholarly interpretation and cause of revelation.I hope when we give you the proper schorlary intepretation base on the reason the verse was revealed,you will still not use taqiyyah as excuse to to continue romancing your Ignorance.

Don't panic
Are you scared?

Now which one do we start from----- those who insulted Muhammad and were killed

Or those who left Islam and the punishment is death


I am waiting
I hope you won't deny your books and still play taqiya.

Incognito403:
But you can blame the so-called boss who lacks every atom of civility?

Insulting other people's religion is an act of terrorism.

We will never take that nonsense from anyone.

Mujahadeen are you eager for 72 virgins?

But according to the Quran every muslim will be in hell after they die

You want the verses and hadiths?

nayolight:
You can't blame the guy because the Islamic clerics that preached to him Al his few time here on earth ,has assured him that there will be heaven for any one that defend the dignity of Mohammed and is also ready to kill or die in the process. Unfortunately that is where we are today in this country.

The muslim got it from the cleric the cleric got it from Quran, hadith and sirat and tasfir and shariah

Basic123:
What are Northern Islamic Schorlars teaching their people for God Sake?

I am a muslim and this is against Islamic teaching!...Infact Islam discourage abusing non believers God talkless of killing them!

“And do not insult those they invoke besides Allah, lest they insult Allah in hostility without knowledge.”
— Qur'an 6:108

Okay,let now say,they offend your God and uiu feel offended? What did Allah ask you to do?

“And if you pardon, it is closer to righteousness (piety).”
— Qur'an

You pardon and pray for forgiveness.

I think they just infuse their own natural aggressiveness into the religion!

Why are you using taqiya?

Why are you lying?

Do you want me ro give Quranic verses that support what the muslim hausa is saying is true?

Do you need sahih hadiths that proves the muslim cleric teaching are from Islam?

I have evidences from the Sirat, should I show u?

Careful habibi with the next words from you because I am knowledgeable in Islam and arabic

Rashduct4luv:
Are you speaking Chinese?

No aramaic( Christain lexicon liturgy)from where Quran is gotten from.

Do you want to know more?

Rashduct4luv:
Change of heart as regards what?

Iran is majority Shia and is influenced by them.

Tell me one good thing about Islam that is so maverick and marvelous that others should join and that makes you proud to be a Muslim?


Can you?

Awon iya Aye



I greet una well o

to you who thinks we that is Sounding warning of islam---islamist devastation are paranoid


see for yourself

the ANSAR ( moderate good muslims) will always protect the MUHAJIRUN ( those willing to kill for Allah muhamed or islam)


Be wise

It could be possible

But

Is fake news

Fake story


It happened in SE


From gunmen to Unknown gunmen

Gabrielshow26:
😂 That's the only option he has🥱. He just has to diminish the Hadith and in doing so, made Mohammed, fallible, as regards his revelation🥱. What a Muslim 😂! I will address his errors later on.

The guy couldn't even show any evidence of hijra from mecca to medina

Only speculation conjectures and wishful thinkng all thanks to the AI -----but infact the Ai rather implicated him the more showing Quran silence or should I say incoherence

Infact the AI showed that Quran that was said to be clear needs 200 years later words of men to white wash it.

And his discussions from AI shows more loopholes that islam bluer prints like hijra were later men idea

What a douchbag

Where in the Quran can I find Hijra from mecca to medina?

Since it is an important event that started AH


Can you show me one unequivocal unambiguous statement from the Quran that muslim refugees moved from mecca to medina?


Shukraan

Explore2xmore:
At this point, the disagreement is not about whether the Qur'an shares motifs with earlier traditions as that is already conceded. The issue is what that fact actually proves.
Resemblance does not imply dependence. The same evidence,shared narratives, cultural proximity, contemporary accusations is equally consistent with two explanations: direct borrowing, or independent revelation engaging a shared world. Both predict identical surface features, so similarity alone selects neither. A transmission chain is required to close that gap. None has been provided.
On Dhul-Qarnayn, structural overlap in a journey narrative is historically unremarkable. What matters is theological content and there the divergence is fundamental. The Romance elevates a ruler toward semi-divine stature; Surah Al-Kahf presents power as contingent, morally governed, and subordinate to divine permanence. That is not borrowing, it is the opposite ideological conclusion drawn from a shared narrative form. The plagiarism hypothesis has to explain that divergence, not just assert proximity.
On copied errors, the argument requires three things: a specific source error, a Qur'anic retention of that same error, and absence of reinterpretive transformation. None of the three has been supplied.
On Arian and Nestorian influence, those systems contradict each other on questions both treated as salvation-critical. If the Qur'an borrowed from both, explain how that produced coherence rather than inherited their contradictions. Selection and harmonisation describes exactly what independent engagement with a shared environment looks like and you have restated the alternative hypothesis while trying to rebut it.
On the asateer witnesses, those same voices attributed the Qur'an simultaneously to sorcery, madness, and human instruction which are mutually exclusive claims. You are citing the one accusation that serves your conclusion while discarding the rest of their testimony. Apply a consistent witness standard or the selective citation carries no evidentiary weight.
What has been established is shared environment, motif overlap, cultural proximity. What has not is a transmission chain, textual dependence, or evidence that uniquely supports borrowing over the alternative.Possibility of influence has been shown. Necessity of derivation has not. That gap is where the entire case sits. The gaps are visible to everyone reading. Fill them or concede them.

3 gbosa for AI


All that you posted from alhaji Ai do you even know the meaning or phrases of words used

You implicated yourself the more

Shall I show you?

@Gabrielshow26 I stopped replying that toddler with Ai phone when in trying to defend an open post he spill more beans


The AI he is using is exposing him the more

Is this what Islam is

Make up a lie and call it a claim( when talking to naive people)

Make more lies to defend the claim ( when confronted with the truth)

Then deny the lies to defend the lie ( when you hit them with there source + more truth )


Is a shame

That there is no equivocal unambiguous statement from Allah in the Quran that Muslims refugees went on Hijra from mecca to medina?