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Him don through Hadith under the bus

Chaiiii


To the MOD continue removing my replies you should thank God I am born again .... I would have sent a distant cousin to visit Alusi okija on our behalf

Are you working or eating mama thank you?

Are u paying house rent from your sweat?

If that girl becomes pregnant can you dance for joy or run away?


Pampers and NAN 1 and school fees for creche no be here o

With the way Nigeria economy is like the hierarchy of Iran leadership.


Una still dey talk of cheating?


Wahala dey o

Seun



See wetin ya minister of dumbo MOD moved to front page?



Chaiiiii

One thing I found at about coded hidden Muslim is that they can't go a day without blaming PAUL the APOSTLE.

Now for the points you made and claimed to be true----would you ike me to refute them with sola scriptural evidences, historical evidences and the very words of Yesua el messiah and his disciples?

After it will expose you as a liar, antichrist agent, and a Muslim.


Shall we habibi

It used to make sound at night -----

[quote author=ChristianMuslim post=139312020][/quote]On ?

The difference is


Water in a cup ----almost free
Water in nylon ------#50 per sachet
Water in a bottle.-----#300 per bottle


Same Water but the CONTAINER CONTENT exhibit the value higher

Now Water in a bottle

From the road side #300
From restaurant #500
From lounge #2,000

In this case LOCATION has amplifies the value higher.

Why are the following obi and kwanlwaso around like that 17 reps


I think the APC should ban them

Don't look into the mirror in the night


The person you will see dosent resemble you.

AlabiKILLER2023:
I have been complaining of slow business
Poor sales

A new filling station just opened opposite my shop today

They're also selling engines oil

The usual practice is bike enter refill and cross over to my shop to buy oil

But now it's no longer like that

This is a hustle I put more than 1.5m
Right now nothing is going on
If feel that I've wasted my money
9
Guys what do I do right now

Them open new filling station beside them also

So you mean Nigeria is hell fire?


APC una see una life

But

Tinubu will win 2027
Jagaban

honesttalk21:
The term tawhid isn’t required stated; the doctrine is. The Qur’an states God’s oneness directly. Quran 2:138 is about sibghah being divine imprint (fitrah), not self-worship; that reading ignores basic Arabic please use your claimed expertise to show differently.
On w-h-d, it means oneness, not part of. No classical lexicon supports that claim except again you show now.
The use of We is a known Semitic register; clarified by singular statements like I am Allah (20:14).
Uthman's standardising recitation isn’t erasing a different Qur’an. No alternate text has ever been produced. I asked you to provide yet you still can't

Song: jumping Jumping you are jumping

Shame just dey catch me for you
So you no know anything----haaa

Ok let's start here since you want to lie about the standardisation of the Quereyana

1. Did Uthamn satrderdised the Quran? Because there were variants---- different Quran in reading?

2. After standardisation did he burnt the others?

3.the Quran verse about breastfeeding and others lost---- yes or No?

4.we have 30 Qurans in circulations today
Example haffs , warsh , Duri and others --- yes or No?

5.Did Allah gave Uthamn the right to standardised the Quran ?

You stop saying you don't know arabic--- that line don cast.

I pray AL RABB will reveal YASU AL MASSIH IBN ELAHA to you through Ruuhil-Qudus

honesttalk21:
Still repeating the same demand while unable to meet it from your own sources? You said the Israelite migration from Egypt to Canaan was well documented — that is how Yahweh rolls, point A to point B — yet you cannot produce a single Biblical verse stating that explicitly. Try it. One verse, precise and unambiguous, naming both locations as origin and destination in one statement.

That is not a defence of the Qur'an but your own standard applied consistently for your book. When you can meet it from your own scripture you can justifiably demand it of Islam otherwise be quiet so we don't confirm in the words of Abraham Lincoln.

Now I know you don't even know the Quran not to talk of the Holy Bible--- so I have Ben talking to a child depending on Ai
Even your Muslim brothers are ashamed you asked that question.

The HIJRA journey from Egypt to Canaan—popularly called the "Exodus"—is a central theme of the Old Testament. God’s promise to deliver the Israelites from slavery and bring them to a "land flowing with milk and honey" is repeated at several times.

Pinpointing the point A Egypt to point B canaan in clear terms without vague empty incoherent cut and join.

This your question showed I have been talking to a toddler ... now I will indulge and lecture you to see that Our LORD GOD YAHWEH is precise clear detailed.


​Here are the key Bible verses where God declares move from Point A to point B
​1. The Call of Moses (The Burning Bush)
​This is the first time God explicitly outlines the plan to Moses.
​Exodus 3:8
​"So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey—the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites."
You say what ?Mon Dieu see detailed precise coherent instruction... YAHWEH you too much, abeg Clap for my God jare


​Exodus 3:17
​"And I have promised to bring you up out of your misery in Egypt into the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—a land flowing with milk and honey."
See levels , kilode see levels ---see unambiguous unequivocal statement from my YAHWEH, can your god do that?

​2. Formal Confirmation to Israel
​After Moses expresses doubt, God reaffirms His covenant using His formal name (Yahweh).
​Exodus 6:6–8
​"Therefore, say to the Israelites: ‘I am the Lord, and I will bring you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians... And I will bring you to the land I swore with uplifted hand to give to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob. I will give it to you as a possession. I am the Lord.’"
Ogini ogini ogini ogini too much God, you wish it was like this in ya Quereyana? See God speaking with evidence....see evidence not tasfir not white wash not dem talk say he talk say---MY YAHWEH IS AWESOME...say it...say it

​3. During the Journey (Reassurance)
​As the Israelites moved through the wilderness, God reminded them of the destination to keep them focused.
​Exodus 23:23
​"My angel will go ahead of you and bring you into the land of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites and Jebusites, and I will wipe them out."
Kilode kilode evidence yapa... otipoju ... make una clap again na , even if your god no get him own evidence

​Exodus 33:1
​"Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Leave this place, you and the people you brought up out of Egypt, and go up to the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, saying, "I will give it to your descendants."'"
I love my God the creator--- the owner---his words are clear too much clear. Baba God I worship you.
Make I stop here jare my God too get evidence

​tenQ antislam Gabrielshow24
Abutwins doffman seun


NowBack to the question show me from the Quran where Allah SWT in an unambiguous unequivocal statement says Muslims refugees moved from mecca to medina?

honesttalk21:
That standard isn’t how ancient texts works. Even the Exodus isn’t one neat verse stating a move from Egypt to Canaan in one sentence; I will appreciate you show us otherwise. It’s spread across multiple books and assumed as shared memory. The Qur’an too does the same in its own style seen in expulsion (59:, reception (59:9), flight (9:40), and defined emigrant helper groups (8:72). That’s a consistent migration pattern, not silence.
Demanding one modern style line is importing a format the text doesn’t use. We all now see it’s not absence but a different narrative method and your inequitable demand.

So no evidence

You don't even understand what you are saying contradicting yourself--- trying to defend a vague book.
Historical context will give the name of the place point A to point B---- Quran failed woefully and you are here trying to help and white wash it ----in so doing expose more lies of the Quran Allah and the 200 years later commentaries.

Since you have no evidence--- kindly move along


In zaik naik voice--show me an unequivocal unambiguous statement from the Quran where I can find muslim refugees moving from one point A mecca to point B medina?

honesttalk21:
Overruled!

These six points fall apart for the same reason which is bad Arabic, mixed categories, and claims with no real evidence.
Tawhid as a later technical term is not in the Qur’an, though true but the doctrine is everywhere. Your God is One God (2:163), Allah is One (112:1), Do not take two gods (16:51). The label came later. The belief was already there.
The root w-h-d does not mean part of or one of. That is simply false Arabic. Across the major lexicons, it means oneness. Wahid is one. Ahad is one. Tawhid is affirming oneness. Anything else is made up.
The tashahhud is not prayer to Muhammad pbuh. Sending peace is not worship. In Islam, greeting a prophet is not the same thing as calling on a god. Mixing those two is basic category confusion.
Best of creators does not mean Allah is one creator among many. In Qur’anic Arabic it means Allah is above every lesser form of making. Same with they planned and Allah planned that is divine counter-planning, not deception as a flaw.
Allah saying We is not plurality. That is the royal plural normal Arabic usage for majesty and authority. The Qur’an still states plainly: Indeed, I am Allah (20:14). Singular, clear, direct.
Then Uthman did not burn the real Qur’an. He standardised the written copies to preserve one agreed text across dialects. That is preservation, not suppression. If another real Qur’an existed, produce it. That is manuscript, chain, text. You and no one else can.
So all six claims fail the same way being weak Arabic, weak logic, and zero hard evidence. Once the language is read properly, none of it stands.

The truth keep coming out.


1. There is nothing called tawheed ------ don't tell me about concept ---- the word tawheed is not in the whole Quran, and you agreed.

2.Allah can claim alot of things but when we look at the Quran is another thing-----or muslims are saying one thing about Allah declaration without letting us know the other part-----which is Allah praises himself and worship himself in the Quran 2 vs 138.

3.TAWHID means part of----one of-----unique among.

4.allah using we US to describe himself---muslim call it royalty----- but royalty means that the speaker is speaking on behalf of his cabinet or royalty which points back to compound unity.

5.Uthman standardised the Quran ? Why ? Because he needed to get the real Quran out infact he burnt them : you forgot to tell us that muslim was the 1st to burn the real quran --- and he died like a chicken.
STANDARDISED means there was a problem of different Qurans which shows the parroted lies uncorrected Quran

All these shows that your points are baseless and empty claims : I showed evidences

But TRUMP ATTENDS CHURCH

honesttalk21:
The core claim does not collapse it is being relabeled rather than addressed. Redefining al-Muhajirun as later mercenaries for Tabuk does not fit Q8:72.The verse treats al-Muhajirun and al-Ansar as already established groups with binding duties of support, protection, and inheritance. That is long-term communal law, not recruitment language, and it presupposes an existing social split.
Q59:8–9 describes expulsion from homes and wealth followed by reception by an already settled community. Q9:40 adds flight under pursuit, and Q22:39 allows fighting only after expulsion and harm. The sequence is consistent: expulsion, departure, refuge, reception, then conflict.
The calendar point is similar. The Hijri system under Umar does not create the event it dates; it anchors administration to an already recognised historical turning point.
The demand for a single Mecca to Medina sentence misreads how ancient texts work. The Exodus is never given in one explicit line either. Its movement from Egypt to Canaan is spread across Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and later texts, yet it is still treated as one migration because the audience already knows the shared event.
The Qur’anic pattern is the same in form: expulsion (59:, reception (59:9), flight (9:40), and legal distinction between emigrants and helpers (8:72). Like the Exodus tradition, it encodes a known event across multiple passages instead of restating it in one label.
So the issue is not absence of reference, but refusal to read it in its own narrative style.

the hijra of isrealites from egypt to cannan was well documented----that is how YAHWEH roll He makes things well documented from point A to Point B.


now show us that Allah in the Al Quran Kareem that muslims went from mecca to medina as refugees-----do you understand.


Now show me an unequivocal unambigous statement from allah that muslim moved from mecca to medina as refugees hijra.

honesttalk21:
Saying no evidence doesn't engage what's already been laid out, it bypasses the structure of the argument rather than testing it. The Qur'anic material presents a connected narrative across passages. Q59:8 describes expulsion and loss of property. Q59:9 describes a receiving community providing support. Q9:40 depicts a moment of flight under pursuit with divine protection. Q8:72 names two legally distinct communities those who emigrated and those who gave shelter with defined rights between them. Q22:39 introduces permission to respond to aggression after expulsion, not before. Read together, the sequence is consistent: pressure, forced departure, reception, and only then conditional permission to fight. That order matters. Migration precedes resistance in the text, not the other way around.
That coherence is reinforced by the text's own legal language. Al-Muhajirun and al-Ansar are not rhetorical flourishes. They are categories carrying defined obligations within inheritance law, social responsibility, loyalty, and communal authority across multiple chapters. Legal categories reflect existing social realities. They do not float above events that never happened. You do not legislate around fiction.
The administrative point runs the same direction. The Hijri calendar, formalised under Umar ibn al-Khattab, takes the Hijrah as its fixed starting point because it marked a recognised communal turning point significant enough to anchor time itself. Civilisations do not date their calendars from ambiguous or invented moments. They date from events their entire community already knows and agrees upon.
So the question was never whether every detail appears in one sentence. It is whether the cumulative pattern across narrative sequence, legal structure, and early communal memory coheres around a real migratory event. It does. Across every test applied from textual, legal, administrative, the same event appears at the centre.
Repeating no evidence after all of that is not a conclusion. It is a refusal to engage. And a refusal to engage is not the same as a rebuttal.

Writting long sequences of words without truth is not gonna help you.
All the verses you Quoted I have answered with facts not emotion or years of lies.

That you believed a lie for years dosent make it true, that a whole village believed a lie doesn't make it true------FACT.

YOU WANT ME TO BE REPEATING MYSELF WHEN YOU KEEP THROWING VAGUE EMPTY NO EVIDENCE VERSES.

YATHRIB means a city , the city and this can mean any city .

MUHAJIRUN this are mercenaries who are willing to die called to join in the battle of batuk , badr, invading of the 3 Jewish clans like Khybar,
THIS MUHAJIRUN were promised war booty and if they die they will get war booty on heaven.

NO HIJRA in 9:40 because this is where the lies sparked, Qutham a.k.a was driven out from point A and he went to point B which is a cave with one companion who was with him, so the subsequent verses encouraged MUHAJIRUN to join Muhammad in the JIHAD.
note I said driven out which I have explained above . Since the Quran didn't say WHAT LOCATION how dare you corrupt the word of Allah?

ANSAR these are the people whom the Muhajiruns that left there places to join Muhammad in JIHAD meets , for example if a Muhajirun or mujahadeen leaves LONDON to join BOKO HARAM in the northern Nigeria to kill non Muslims and take there land as prescribed in the verses you stated above the fellow Muslims he meet in northern Nigeria are the ANSAR. those who are there already.
More example: Islamic terrorist in Nigeria are the Muhajirun/ mujahadeens and the normal Conservative Muslims like you on nairaland are the ANSAR. You are the white washers.

AL MAKKAH there is no where In those verses that any people in massive number were persecuted that they left MAKKAH....point A ... no where.

JiHAD. all the verses quoted are incitement to steal kill and destroy non Muslims, in such raids blacks ( our ancestors) were ambushed , killed and sold as slaves ,the population of blacks were so reduced that you can't find 10 Indigenous blacks in Arabia again, infact Muhammad ( a white man)said anyone who say he is black should be killed, muhamed owns black slaves , sold backs .
They invaded communities who mind there business,people s business were stolen caravan looted by Muhajiruns

No mecca to medina ....back to the topic question where in the Quran can I find the hijra from mecca to medina?


Take away: the so-called islamic hijra wasn't even known until under a caliphate that now decide to create a date.... that means it was human origin not divine command or recognition. Allah didn't recognise it....that is why Quran didn't say anything about it-----muhamed didn't say anything about it.....

After his death many years later it was fabricated.

Where in the Quran can we find HIJRA from mecca to medina by muslim refugees----an unequivocal unambiguous statement from Allah in the Quran?


And if you can't give me the answer---- you will be ignored------as no evidence.

honesttalk21:
The Qur’an is not vague on the Hijrah. It gives you expulsion (Q59:, refuge by those already settled (Q59:9), the flight itself with concealment (Q9:40), and then names the two legal communities built around it in Q8:72; those who migrated and those who gave them shelter. That is not a missing story. That is a complete sequence told in the Qur’an’s own style.

The legal point is where the objection dies. You do not build law on fiction. Al-Muhajirun and those who sheltered them were not poetic labels. They were legal categories with real consequences in loyalty, inheritance, distribution, and communal standing. Law presumes an actual event behind it. You do not legislate around metaphor.

The calendar point fails the same way. The Hijri calendar was standardised later under ʿUmar r.a for administration. That did not invent the migration; it simply dated from it. Formalising a calendar is not the same as creating the event it measures.

And demanding one neat sentence naming both cities is not a historical standard but a modern reading habit. The Qur’an does not narrate like a government file. It speaks by linked passages, legal consequences, and historical reference spread across the text. That is not confusion. That is how the Qur’an speaks.

So no evidence

This life sef.... a lie can run for 1,400 years but one day the truth will outrun it.


So unequivocally unambiguously there is no hija from mecca to medina by Muslims as refugees

Empiree:
Well, i am not concerned about op's opinion of me. He's entitled to his opinion whatever he thinks i am. My concern is, can you provide evidence where i support them for cursing or abusing Albayt and sahaba?. I will like to see that please.

I also will like for you to provide evidence where Allah forbids friendship and support for your fellow muslims?. In the Quran, we see many verses talk about brotherhood. Āyat al-Ukhuwah) is the tenth verse of the Quranic chapter "Al-Hujurat". The verse is about brotherhood of believers with each other; which says: "the believers are but brothers, so make settlement between your brothers. And fear Allah that you may receive mercy (49:10).


Unless you can proof kufr of entire shia by ijma of the Ummah of Muhammad Ibn Abdullah(saw), we can review that. And dont forget to provide evidence where i fought sunnah. Please quote me. Thank you


You have the right to doubt anything. That's your prerogative.

Where in the Quran can we find the SHAHADA?


you can answer me here or in the thread I asked the question

Shkran

dofman:
Don’t tell me you did not know that Paul is your religion founder 🤣

You are Paulin nah

Where in the Quran can I find SHAHADA?

Empiree:
You guys haven't grown up yet?.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JGALymDtT/

Where in the Al Quran kareem can I find the shahada?


Tell us baba Agba

Lordly13:
A religion that supports the a grown man abusing a 9 year old girl and calling it marriage. Why I'm I not surprised

Kuffar

Antlisiam:
Bobo answer the question dem ask you and leave story

E tire me o

Them ask question
You say you know infact you go end career and disgrace blackfirex-----he said Ngwanu
Abd jumped from insult to insult, even the silent readers are ashamed of him


What a waste

Ordinary find SHAHADA IN THE QURAN O?

IF I ASK WHAT WAS ADAM S WIFE NAME AND HOW EVE WAS CREATED ACCORDING TO THE QURAN NEPA GO TAKE LIGHT

doffman:
Just confess , you don’t have anything again . Pele .

This your operandi don cast nah . Pauline 🤣

Is the word Pauline supposed to be insult? You keep repeating it like broken record

Instead of providing answer you think by shouting or telling us the ORIKI of your family will make you look smart....actually the opposite


Where in the Quran can we find the SHAHADA ?

THIS TIME DONT TELL US YOUR ORIKI
DONT PANIC
IF YOU ARE CLUELESS MOVE ALONG
SHUKRAAN

where in the Quran can ww find hijra from mecca to medina by muslims refugees?

honesttalk21:
The demand for one sentence naming both cities is not how the Qur'an communicates history. Meaning appears across linked passages. Read together: 8:30, threat of expulsion,9:40, expulsion, flight, cave, pursuit, 8:72, migration and reception, 59:8, loss of homes and wealth 59:9, shelter and support 4:97–100, leaving oppression for refuge. The sequence is consistent. Threat → expulsion → migration → loss → reception.

9:40 shows two in flight and concealment, while other passages describe an organised, settled community. That contrast marks different stages, not contradiction. Al-Muhajirun is a defined category tied to rights and identity. Such a category presupposes real, recognized migration within the text’s framework. The Qur’an does not give a labeled sentence. It gives a coherent pattern of forced departure and refuge across multiple verses.

So no evidence from Allah SWT in the Quran Al kareem that there was a Hijra from mecca to medina by persecuted Muslims as refugees

Now move along
Shooter


So the Qur'an is incoherent to such a new calender but if it to kill infidels he will spelt it out

The Quran needs your help white wash to save the Quran a whole word of Allah ....what a shame


How can a whole big occasion like the AH be missing unknown unspecified vague clueless empty confusing.