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unitysheart:
Absurdity.

If its not us that called them into priesthood and cannot judge them, how come the worldly government can judge and punisb them.

I havent condemned Christianity but i have every right to denounce and condemn immorality found with the priests.

Jesus himself commandrd that such priests should be expelled from yhe congregation.

You make it seem as if the church forces them to become celebate.

unitysheart:
Keep deceiving yourselves. There were apostles that were married in the first century CE.

I can even categorically say that the Catholic church brought in so many traditions that were alien to the original Christianity or even Judaism, where Christianity emanated from.

At the end of the day, after claiming they are celibate, they go on defiling innocent young children, both male and female, whereas, God and Jesus did not forbid them from getting married. After all, Apostle Paul said it may be better generally y to remain a virgin or single so that one can propagate the truth. He however added thay if you cannot hold body please get married.

It ia even understandable why some didnt get married in the times of the apostles. The gospel had not gone viral back then and those taking the lead may need to travel far and thus leaving their families behind. But is that the same situation today? Far from it.

Meanwhile, We know for certain that Peter was married because he had a mother-in-law (Matthew 8:14). The apostle Paul, who was not married, asked the Corinthians whether he also did not have the right to take a believing wife (1 Corinthians 9:5), as did “the other apostles and the Lord's brothers and Cephas [Peter].” From this, we can assume that Peter was not the only one to have a wife.

Lastly, the qualifications for elders and deacons include references to their marriages and families (1 Timothy 3:1–13; Titus 1:5–9). These qualifications do not require that church leaders be married, but they do certainly demonstrate that many were.

With reference to your 3rd paragraph, no one is forced into priesthood, it's a divine vocation one goes into knowing fully well what it is all about and the sacrifices one must make.
A priest who feels He can not continue with his work as a priest because of his sexual desire have every right to resign, and for those Reverend Fathers accused of sexual immoralities it is not you that called them to the vineyard of God, let Him that called them judge them.

Letting Shekarau to decamp is going to hunt PDP in d coming election.

I marvel at the level of stupidity some people sink just to prove an unexistence and baseless point. I would have loved to engage u in an educative session, but I won't coz I like it when some people decide to be stupid.

murphyibiam15:
kwankwaso is a more smarter Igbo hater than buhari...I rather vote buhari than that bigot

Bros you have said it all

It's better Buhari continues and probably die as president 4 life than for Kwankwaso to become the President of Nigeria.

justtoodark:
am not trying to insult you,but things you say dont make sense.....

I am done with this argument

I got the silliness from you who happens to be the originator of silliness

justtoodark:
who told you that nigeria only has ak47ns...??

i didnt mention going to war....

am just saying in case any nation dare attack nigeria....

that they may know who they are dealing with...

and why are you calling russia almighty...??

i dont understand you....

Let's talk about conventional warfare and what it entails.
Conventional warfare is a kind of traditional warfare that does not involve the use of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, but rather it deals on 2 opposing force with similar strategies and weaponry.
The airdefense we field are obsolete, is it our airforce that fields outdated flying coffins, or is it our navy? In the issue of deployment, how fast are we capable of deployment? Do we have the plattform to claim airsuperiority? do we have the technical know how to jam their communication system? Do we have the spirit to withstand superior artillery barrage? U will stop here 4 now, but please answer my questions.

My problem with some people is not that they don't have sense, but that they don't make any attempt to have sense, no matter how small it is.
Imagine a country that even almighty Russia don't want any direct confrontation with, not even China but some senseless citizens of Nigeria thinks that wars are fought with only AK 47 and those flying coffins our airforce field. It is treasonous and a disservice to Nigeria asking Nigeria to go to war with USA.
Do i need to remind some of u the hard time Ordinary Boko Haram is giving our armed force, yet some of you want to go head to head with d American military, a country whose military budget alone is more than 20 times our entire national budget, I pray that sense fall on you traitors.

How I wish some Nigerians have sense.

mysaviouralive:
Hello Admin pls move this to the front page and I will be in the comment section reading.

Pls I want to take a boldness step and I will not mind where it can lead to. I have to open an account now to post this. My wife is also a guest of nairaland and she will be seeing this post.

It happen that I got married to my wife over Nine yrs ago and we only have a Kid. I was working in a big company then before the new management came in and change the policy of the company and I was laid off. I was idle like 3yrs before I got another job. she is working in one of the biggest bank in Nigeria. Like 5yrs ago I noticed she will be smiling whenever she is chatting with one of her male colleague. I ask what are they normally discussing, but she told me that it was their office issue that they are discussing. I know the guy and his family and the guy has came to my house not more than four times.

It happen one day that I demanded to give her phone to browse because I was having problem with my phone. she gave me the phone around 10:30pm and I noticed she has has cleared all their chat. This make it look suspicious and I asked her immediately that why did you deleted the chat, but she told me it was a mistake. I think over it for sometime because I trust her then, but on the other hand my mind was telling me to find out more. As an IT expert I connected her phone to my system and do some forensic research on the phone, alas what I discovered was bad. My wife and the guy have been having an affair and chatting and sending their nude to themselves. I called her immediately and demanded to explain the pixture but she denial it and was telling me another story that she snap the pixture and to show me how she was Hot so that we can have sex that night.

she said I should show her where I got the nude pixs and before she came back from the office she has wipe all the pixs that I showed her thinking that I cannot recovered it anymore and I asked her why should you do that but was just begging me. I recovered all the pixs back and the chat she believe she has deleted and I have more proof that she has been cheating on me.

So I asked her to tell me the truth what is going on with the guy and her but she was just begging me. But I told him I dont want her to do or have anything with the guy again that if I catch her again she will not like what I will do for her, with the hope that she will change. Recently I noticed she stil chatting with the guy again and I rake on her to stop it but she told me that she was just explaining office issue she has when he (the guy) not around because she is the one that relief him on work.

This week they are still chatting late in the nite cos I always seen the chat, though she will delete it as soon as they chat finish but I always have the chat and also today they have chat alot to the extend that my wife was crying when she expecting good reply from the guy but the guy fail him and I noticed she has intimate with the guy rather than me her husband.

My wife can lie and so Promiscuous. I have called her severally to change but she did not, recently I heard she was talking with one of her online friend from Abuja when the guy told her he will be coming to visit her this coming week, and I expect my wife to tell me but uptill now she has not saying anything on it. This make me not to have much trust in her again because if she tell me something I will still think over it like five times again before I accepted.

So my plan now is to call the wife of her colleague and explain everything to the wife and I also planing of arresting her colleague because I still have the proof and dont mind what can come out of this, because I tired and cant continue like this anymore, ever since I have caught her I did not enjoy my home anylonger and I tried to erase it from my memory but not get it wright.

Pls save me and save my marriage if possible.

Thank you.

I can't say I knw wat u r going through coz honestly I don't, but 4 d sake of your kid, call her family to intervene, and if they can't, it's best you both go your separate ways but embarrassing the mother of your kid is not the best way to go about it. It's best u walk away with your pride and dignity intact than to do something so little, but it's just my opinion sha

fuckerstard:
See weapon. Any detective here who can identify that gun?

If dem mistaken go give SARS this kain gun...


Modified : Nice one, you people sabi gun names oo.

Dats a Tavar bro

I can train any lady in school whether I want to marry her or not, but if at d long run she decides to quit the relationship, good for her coz she saved me a lifetime of misery. I go even do thanksgiving join.

Amarabae:
I want to talk to some of my fellow ladies.
It's Oriaku rant series again
The professional table shaker.

Before I used to frown at those Girls that are fond of milking a guy's money down in a relationship or a date.
But not any more.
I blame the guys for being stupid and not sharp enough.
I don't know why someone will think that she is born to be spoon fed by men all her life just because she has a vagina.
Walking upon and down with a stupid sense of entitlement.
That's why I so much love feminism ideologies, it shaped me in many ways,
One of the things feminism taught me is that "A real woman should not be a financial parasite to a man"
A girl needs to wake up and have something doing that will be fetching her some money, am not talking about being a cheap runs girl,
Yeah runs girls are cheap sexy toys used for pleasure by men.
Oriaku says so!
God bless every hardworking lady out there,
Men owes us nothing as women when it comes to finances! Get your lazy azz up.
And it is the same girls with entitlement attitude that will be criticising feminism online because the movement exposes their flaws,
There are many skills a girl can learn, many are smiling to the bank, all thanks to their skills,
Learn one or two today so that you can be financially independent as a woman.
I hate seeing a fellow woman disgracing herself in the name of being a financial liability to men,
We need to break that cycle,
Hell will not break loose if you take him out on a date and cater for the bills,
Relationship is not a poverty alleviation program,
But some girls have turned it into one,
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Look at the society and see how some girls are messing themselves up due to money gluttony,
Laziness coupled with a sense of entitlement drove some of them into the mess they are into.
A girl that learnt catering and is working hard and making some money from it will not think of stopping so low to be a runz girl.
There are many skills that a fellow girl can pick and learn even if you are a graduate and there is no job.
Dear runs girl, I hope you will read this thread and stop embarrassing women folk.
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An incident I witnessed this afternoon left me speechless,
A guy was seriously beating one girl who should be in her middle 20s on the road, few people intervened ,but nobody could hold the enranged guy until one military guy came on board,
What's the problem?
The boiling young man brought out a torn unilag bachelor's degree certificate that the girl teared(though not in pieces, just straight tearing that can be joined again by a *cellotape*)because of 10,000,
When the stupid young girl was asked about the issue ,she accepted that she did that because the guy was owing her 10k they agreed on before having sex in his house,
After the sex, he only gave her 2k which enranged her, she managed to see the guy certificate in an envelope and took it, teared it to teach him a lesson,
When the angered guy descendent on her, she ran out for help ,
Can you imagine?
Of course the guy ran after her, caught her and brutalize her.
*you are very silly and stupid *- the angry remark came from my voice towards the silly thing.
You tored his certificate because of 10,000 ,
Why?
Just because you turned yourself into a sexx toy.

I just don't understand.
There are many girls like her who are under the sun working off sweat and maintaining their dignity,
No she doesn't want to suffer,
By the way, she has vagina, so men should spoon feed her forever.
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Women we need to wake up!
We need to protect our dignity!
We need to work hard and earn our own money.
Men owes us nothing financially.
If a man gives you freely, no problem accept if you want
But the mentality of "he must give me because he is a man and I am a woman " must be dropped.
Feminism have shaped some of us to know that whether in marriage or relationship, the both partners needs to be financially independent.
Ndewo nu.
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NB : Stupid mentions and replies will be ignored

Thanks alot oriaku rant, I so much love this.

bettercreature:
The next world war is going to be strictly NUCLEAR

Make d war wait until I die first b4 e start

kenonze:
He tried but messed things up by abandoning strategic Fed roads.

Unlike Amechi.
Although he is patching some sections of Aba road

There is a reason it's called Federal road.

Expect anything wen u r in a relationship.

I ain't gonna say a thing, I will just stand her up on our wedding day.

Lol..... Bukky d badt guy.

Shelumiel:
This is where you're getting it wrong: extremism is not common to any religion or group of people ; it is a thing that is solely restricted to an individual's concept of what he believes to be fundamental.

For all d fancy name you give to it, extremism is still terrorism and it's not a thing solely restricted to an individual's concept like you said, rather it is an agenda with a common goal which you are aware of and also d last I checked Islamic Terrorist constitute to 80% or more than of the world's terror organisation and if that does not tell you anything, den der is no need to continue with this debate.

Shelumiel:
No

Then I suggest you Google d date the state of Israel was created.

Shelumiel:
Brother , our discussion is on extremism; not the defamation of Christianity or Islam . Extremism is something that is common to every group , religion and race .

You are d one who pointed out extremism in Christianity in veiled way, so I also in a veiled way wants u to understand that Christianity does not preach hate. And for the record Terrorism or Extremism is not common to Christianity, we do not fight God's battle that is to say that "We don't fight Jihad".

Shelumiel:
Before commenting , why not do a bit of research into what I said, hmm? How much do you really know about the LRA? Yes christians would dissociate themselves from such ; it is the normal thing to do when wrong is being done .But are you aware that the fundamental principles that governed them(The LRA) stemmed from the Bible and the laws of Moses? Their extremist views led them to into kidnapping , pillaging and in some cases the raping of women(this is a fact you can easily get from Wikipedia if you want! ) . Two, whether it was in the past or present , one thing still stands : Protestants and Catholics in Ireland did toss bombs at each other . There is an excerpt of a magazine which gives details of how a Girls' Catholics school , was attack on the 6th of September ,2001. If you want me to send the link, all you need to do is ask! Peace .

No matter how much you try to make a point, you are still not making any. In d case of Ireland, pls tell me if any Muslim was caught in the crossfire deliberately? Give me just 1 Christian state that is a known sponsor of terrorism or encourage their actions? N in d case of d LRA that u claim profound knowledge of, pls can you state with evidence any Christian state that offered them aid or encouraged their actions? To the best of my knowledge, Christiandom condemned their actions even the Holy Father (Pope) spoke against them, so also notable men of God, their plot to solicit help from Christaindom hit a brick wall from the start, so no matter how hard you try to associate Christianity with terrorism, you argument will never hold water.
#peace

Shelumiel:
Please my post carefully. Because it seem this post ours is talking about the era where neanderthals and barbarians walk the earth without impunity .

1948?

Shelumiel:
I shall ask you a question: does it make sense (in this modern era) to throw people out a land they have been occupying for more than 100 years? Please be sincere in answering.

And I will answer you with a question, "just 48 hours after Isreal was declared as a State by the United Nation the League of Arab Nations decided to invade the state of Israel with a goal to annihilate the entire jewish people, is it fair to d state of Isreal?
But let me not be a blackman who answers question with question, sincerely speaking, if I take something that belongs to u coz I am more powerful than you, it's only wise you build yourself up to be able to evict me when you are strong enough. So it is fair, very fair

Shelumiel:
Extremism is extremism ; what happened in northern Nigeria happens all over the world . Or have you forgotten that there are Christian militia groups like LRA (Lord's Resistance Army) who tend to portray evil every now and then ? Or how about Ireland(before the split ), were catholics and protestants were tossing bombs each other ? Would you then say these groups are innocent and are not inclined to extremism ? No .

Do you know dat it was Obama that used the word "Extremist" 2 rationalise the irrational behaviour of dis murderer's? And like you claimed that catholics and pentecostals where tossing bombs at each other is a great lie, also it wasn't a between Pentecostals n Catholics, it was btw d Anglican UK and the Catholic Ireland. I know a lot about the IRA militia and what they fought for. Today do u still hear of I.R.A? Pls do not misinform the public simply coz u want to prove a non existent point.
The L.R.A u made mention of never received the support of christians not even locally nor internationally. The only country dat assisted LRA was d Sudanese govt as a pay back to the Ugandan government. So bro your argument is not justified.

Shelumiel:
The nation of Israel gained independence in 1948 , but prior to that , Palestinians were dwelling there , in fact, they were not just dwelling , they sleeping there ; eating there and even doing business there ! So why should the Zionist, wake up all of a sudden and demand that these people leave the land? Secondly , it is wrong for Israel, to pass a laws which solely recognizes Jews as legitimate citizens and marginalizes other non-Jewish people (Palestinians) .

Yes go and read about the conquest of Jerusalem 1815 or 1845 not so sure about the year, then u will knw who the original owners of Jerusalem is, don't try to paint your way around the fact that the state of Israel is d eternal state of the Jewish people.

dingbang:
It is an abomination his mother gave birth to him



What nonsense..

You are very correct

Shelumiel:
So what are subscribing to ?

The Palestinians are not Jews and should not be regarded as Jews likewise the Isrealis are not Palestinians neither are they arabs and should not be regarded as Palestinians or Arab. So it's only fair they (Israelis) enact a law that states with certainty who the Jews people are.
I believe that the Palestinians have a right to their own state that they can be loyal to, u don't expect to be loyal to 2 parties do u? You can either be loyal to one and disloyal to the other.

Shelumiel:
That is true , but everything still boils down to politics . Some years back(in the PDP era),Dr Mauzu Babangida Aliyu was declared governor for the second time. This enraged some politicians in the state , who then employed the chief Imam of Bosso mosque ,to mobilize youths to destroy and burn public utilities: the chief Imam would point at posters , billboards , and even shops belonging to Igbo business men and his army of rampaging youths would set them ablaze. But who was gaining in all this? It is the politicians ! The politicians know that once there is unrest in a particular place , security forces will be deployed , and also funds to repair damaged utilizes would be released by the government. Thus embezzlement occurs .

And where they not cheered on by Northern elders? Do u remember d when Isreal invaded Lebanon, are u aware that it caused civil unrest in major northern cities in Nigeria? Are u also aware of the movie dat was made in France Blaspheming d prophet Mohammed, it led to serious civil unrest in Northern Nigeria, what about the civil unrest of 2011, or the more recent one that happened in Kano where a woman was beheaded in broadday light simply because she denied her neighbours of using the front of her shop to perform abullution, n d most painful thing that happened afterwards was that a court of law discharged and aquitted the killers or is it the preacher dat was beheaded in Suleja? The people that carried out this killings where never terrorist neither were they fulani herdsmen, they are all neighbours of d victims and they where not only protected by the Northernresult, they where applauded. Bro d list is endless

Shelumiel:
That is the mentality putting Nigeria, and the black race in bondage. We should change our mindset so as not to allow this trend of tribalism and ethnicity eat into the very fabric that unites us as a nation .

It is not just about Nigeria, all over the world what we have here in Nigeria as tribal sentiments is regarded as racial discrimination. So if u r not 1, u r not 1.