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MaxInDHouse:
Imitating someone differs from simply obeying Him.

Hope you can grasp that!

See Lamba .

Abeg where in the Bible is it written that Jesus was imitating GOD?

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you what that means several times but since you won't accept it do whatever you like with it!

And what did it mean?

MaxInDHouse:
So the incarnate was praying to who I?

I guess you did not read this?

Incarnate
embody or represent (a deity or spirit) in human form.

Sonnobax15:

Good business initiative...

More profitable than investing on native hens,all in the name of relationship

Hmm!!!!.
No be woman born you, why the so much beef?

MaxInDHouse:
You can't blame him because that's the grammar his pastors used to describe Jesus but they won't check the dictionary neither the Bible to confirm if it's so! Act 17:11
Oxford dictionary!
incarnate (incarnates, present participle incarnating; simple past and past participle incarnated)

To embody in flesh; to invest with a bodily, especially a human, form.

To gain full existence (bodily or otherwise).

To incarn; to become covered with flesh; to heal over.

To make carnal; to reduce the spiritual nature of.

To put into or represent in a concrete form, as an idea.

So according to BlueAgent Jesus is God's Son and at the same time God who born himself!

Stop deceiving.
This is the dictionary definition of incarnate.
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incarnate
adjective
adjective: incarnate
/ɪnˈkɑːnət,ɪnˈkɑːneɪt/
(especially of a deity or spirit) embodied in human form.
"God incarnate"
Similar:
in human form
in the flesh
in physical form
in bodily form
made flesh
made manifest
corporeal
physical
fleshly
embodied
represented in the most fundamental or extreme form.
"here is capitalism incarnate"
verb
verb: incarnate; 3rd person present: incarnates; past tense: incarnated; past participle: incarnated; gerund or present participle: incarnating
/ɪnˈkɑːneɪt,ˈɪnkɑːneɪt/
embody or represent (a deity or spirit) in human form.
"the idea that God incarnates himself in man"
put (a concept or quality) into concrete form.
"a desire to make things which will incarnate their personality"
(of a person) be the living embodiment of (a quality).
"the man who incarnates the pain of the entire community"
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sonmvayina:
Look at the problem those who invented the Jesus character are causing us. They knew this was going to happen that was why they forbid the ordinary people from owing a copy of the Bible.
When a certain German invented the printing press, they did all they could to destroy it. Cardinal Worsley is on record to have said "if we don't destroy this invention now, this invention will one day destroy us..." That day came, but Nigeria who are always late to the party are still dragging humanity backwards.
Very very soon, they will get tired of the charade and tell the whole world how they invented him and forged documents for him.

One by one....the truth will prevail.

Skull miners and traditionist I hail thee

MaxInDHouse:
All the angels including Jesus are children of God what the Bible is saying is that Jesus always imitate his father {John 5:19} that's what makes him different from all the others! 🙂

So when God called Jesus his only begotten Son, was God not aware that he has men and Angels that are also his Sons?

MaxInDHouse:
All the angels including Jesus are children of God what the Bible is saying is that Jesus always imitate his father {John 5:19} that's what makes him different from all the others! 🙂

Another Lamba.

Jesus imitate his Father, but other Angels cannot or does not want to imitate God?

Religeon would destroy people.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy literal according to the dictionary means reproduction if that's what you are talking about then all creatures are literal children of God because God brought all of them through CREATION!

Keep fooling yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Go and educate your church people let them come out in mass to do what JWs are doing globally {Matthew 10:11-13} before you can start blabbing not when you are not in agreement with any of your church people on how to carry out the assignment Jesus gave his disciples!

What are you doing in mass other than walking around with umbrella looking for people you would deceive with your anti -christ doctrine.

Go and see what OPM(Omega power Ministry) is doing, free hospital, over 35, 100% free School, sponsored over 1000 students in scholarship both home and abroad, built free houses for less privilege children and people.

He is currently housing over 500 homeless children who have no hope or parents.

Has several free skill acquisition centers, 100% free.
Has a school for children with Autism,100% free.


Has rehabilitated thousands of ex-miltants,cultists,prostitutes, armed robbers,yahoo boys e.t.c
All from tithes and offering, while still been a a center for deliverance and healing.

Tell me who Jesus would be happy with?

The Bible that lie about his identity or the Bible who preach and practice what he instructed them.


This is Christ demand from christains, not walk about aimlessly with umbrella.

Matthew 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

Janosky:
Psalms 90:2

"God born the mountains & also born the earth.


John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God."

Las las,you can never teach any Jew how to speak Psalm 90:2 & John 8:41 in Hebrew language nor the meaning of Psalm 90:2 & John 8:41 in his language.

The Jews say God wey born dem ,also born the mountains & the whole earth.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
Or
continue deceiving yourself.

You see how you lie?

No where is born or beget used in Psalms 90:2
Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.


The Word used in that verse is brought forth not born.

Liar.

Secondly Common logic or sense in English is suppose to tell that, when a living thing is said to beget or born a non living thing, it should not been taken literal but it is a Meterphor.

MaxInDHouse:
You can't blame him because that's the grammar his pastors used to describe Jesus but they won't check the dictionary neither the Bible to confirm if it's so! Act 17:11
Oxford dictionary!
incarnate (incarnates, present participle incarnating; simple past and past participle incarnated)

To embody in flesh; to invest with a bodily, especially a human, form.

To gain full existence (bodily or otherwise).

To incarn; to become covered with flesh; to heal over.

To make carnal; to reduce the spiritual nature of.

To put into or represent in a concrete form, as an idea.

So according to BlueAgent Jesus is God's Son and at the same time God who born himself!

Please post the link to my post you claim I wrote.

Janosky:
Psalm 2:7, God begotten ( the Father of) David & Solomon (son of God).

God begotten (the Father of) Adam (son of God).
God begotten (the Father of) Jesus Christ. (Son of God).
God begotten (the Father of ) Adam (son of God).
God begotten Israel.
God begotten (the Father of) ALL.

Begotten meaning "the Father of/Father/ became Father".
The screenshot is self explanatory.
Every begoted/ begotten being is a creature.
God is our Father /the Father of Jesus by creation.
This is the truth that most persons feel uncomfortable about on this thread.

This is not rocket science nau.

You really need to learn how to read and comprehend the Bible.

Psalms2:7
Is talking about Jesus, God himself was the one speaking through king David and referring to his son Jesus.

Read from verse 1 to the end. The Bible verse is clearly about Jesus not David.


All the other things you wrote there are all guesswork.

No where is it written that God beget Adam or any other human literal except Jesus.

Janosky:

Oga,your claim very faulty.

The Jews claim @ John 5:18 " Calling God his own Father (his own Senior) making himself equal to God."
pulled the rug out of the capital 'G' @ John 10:33.
His Jewish accusers claimed that God is Jesus own Father (Senior,Elder) , therefore, equality doesn't exist.

@ John 19:7 & Matthew 26:63-65, is incontrovertible evidence that John 10:33 is "a god" .
The Jews accused Jesus that he " is the son of God".


As a result, Jesus referenced Psalms 82:6 (@ John 10:34-36) to prove that he didn't break any law because the Jews believed in Psalms 82:6.

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You keep missing the logic either deliberately due to your crafty ways or you sincerely do not see the illogic in your argument.

Nowhere been a mans literal Son equates to been equal in authority or power to the man.
You are the one forging all this lies.
Even Jesus never claimed been equal with the father in terms of power and authority.

No where did i say that been the express image of my father means am my father or am equal to him.

Even identical twins are different people with different personality.
How much more father and son.

What john 14:7 is saying is that Jesus looks exactly like the father,ones you see Jesus you have seen the father.
Proving that Jesus is the literal son of God.

I can never be equal with my father.
Does that mean am not my fathers biological or literal son?

There is an adage that says no matter how old a man is, he is still a child to his parents.

Janosky:
Psalm 2:7, God begotten ( the Father of) David & Solomon (son of God).

God begotten (the Father of) Adam (son of God).
God begotten (the Father of) Jesus Christ. (Son of God).
God begotten (the Father of ) Adam (son of God).
God begotten Israel.
God begotten (the Father of) ALL.

Begotten meaning "the Father of/Father/ became Father".
The screenshot is self explanatory.
Every begoted/ begotten being is a creature.
God is our Father /the Father of Jesus by creation.
This is the truth that most persons feel uncomfortable about on this thread.

This is not rocket science nau.

You see how you expose yourself?

The screenshot you uploaded clearly defined beget as to bear, give birth,conceive, born.

Which is consistent with all the bible verses that have beget.

Only in the case of Jesus, JW twist it to mean created.

Janosky:

Oga, how does you being an express image of your Father mean that you are your Father, the claim you are making about John 14:7?

Oga, stop deceiving yourself about John 14:7.
@ Matt 11:27, Jesus said the disciples seen the Father because Jesus revealed God the Father to them by speaking the words, messages of John 14:24 the Father sent him to show them @ John 14:7.

Have you forgotten John 1:18 & John 5:37 that Jesus taught the disciples?
No man has seen God at anytime
None of them has seen God's form and none of them heard God's voice.

You keep missing the logic either deliberately due to your crafty ways or you sincerely do not see the illogic in your argument.

Nowhere been a mans literal Son equates to been equal in authority or power to the man.
You are the one forging all this lies.
Even Jesus never claimed been equal with the father in terms of power and authority.

No where did i say that been the express image of my father means am my father or am equal to him.

Even identical twins are different people with different personality.
How much more father and son.

What john 14:7 is saying is that Jesus looks exactly like the father,ones you see Jesus you have seen the father.
Proving that Jesus is the literal son of God.

I can never be equal with my father.
Does that mean am not my fathers biological or literal son?

There is an adage that says no matter how old a man is, he is still a child to his parents.

Janosky:
BlueAgent wey dey quote John 14:28 to me made this claimed on 8th November,2025 ,@2:53/54pm:

"Jesus is God incarnate."

Oga,did God beget himself?

Please,come again and deceive yourself

Keep fooling yourself.

Someone that does not know the meaning of Meterphors in Engllish wants me to take him serious.

Living thing beget mountains and Dew
Dey play

While not start with English class before jumping into Bible class

MaxInDHouse:
So are you saying the Job 38:7 is not in your own Bible or the morning stars are not (God's Sons) angels?

Well Paul was addressing Christians who were Hebrews and their religious leaders have taught them to use the names of angels when praying to God like most of your so called Christians are doing today calling holy Michael, holy Gabriel and so on that's why Paul had to tell them that the only name given through which we should approach God in prayer is Jesus {Act 4:12} because that's the one God introduced to us as His only begotten Son. Matthew 17:5

The practical application of what you quoted not that angels and humans are not God's children!🙂

Angels are sons of GOD by creation and it stopped there.

They have nothing personnel with GOD, they have no attributes or image or glory or nature or form of GOD which only JESUS has.

MaxInDHouse:
Dangote is human who LITERALLY gave birth to children in a PHYSICAL way so he has literal children but God never had a wife whom He impregnate to bear children. So nobody is God's literal son we are all His creations that's what makes Jesus the firstborn! Colossians 1:15

Your stubbornness only shows you have nothing to say other than blind arguments!🙂

Let me Educate you and other JW.

It's obvious you did not do Biology in Secondary school.

There are animals that give birth without mating of the opposite sex.

In reproduction we have Asexual and Sexual reproduction.

Asexual reproduction does not need two opposite sex to reproduce an offspring, the parent only splits into two or more newer ones. Example is Amoeba, human cell mutations e.t.c.


Sexual reproduction is the one that requires male and Female sex organs or mating for them to produce offsprings,example is Man and animals

Now the question is, if GOD can design and create such abilities in Asexual organisms is it impossible for him to reproduce his kind without needing a wife?

Your Jw, are so far from Jesus and his Gospel [left][/left]

MaxInDHouse:
Dangote is human who LITERALLY gave birth to children in a PHYSICAL way so he has literal children but God never had a wife whom He impregnate to bear children. So nobody is God's literal son we are all His creations that's what makes Jesus the firstborn! Colossians 1:15

Your stubbornness only shows you have nothing to say other than blind arguments!🙂

Wow!!!! This is the height of ignorance.

Who made them Man and Woman?

JW or GOD?
What if GOD decided to create only women with the capacity to solely conceive and bear Children?

Is it written anywhere that Children can only be conceived by a Man and woman mating, If God has not designated it so?

Is God bounded by Human capacity or inabilities?

Janosky:

Oga,you want to deceive yourself.
Besides, no evidence that you know Greek more than Greek scholars,Briggs,Thayer & Strong's whose works are well known in that body of knowledge.

Most Trinitarians even acknowledge that "a god" is the correct translation of John 10:33.
Screenshot evidence.


Jesus said he is a god because he is the son of God,@ John 10:34-36.
@ John 5:18,The Jews said Jesus "called God his Father.(Senior)."
That can not make Jesus equal to God his Senior (Father).
This Jewish people know Psalms 82:6 rendition.
@ Psalms 82:6, the sons (called " gods" know that God is their Father.

See how you confuse yourself.

Jesus never claimed equality to GOD.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.


He only acknowledged the fact that he is the literal Son of GOD and hence has the same nature and divinity of GOD.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

tctrills:
You quoted the wrong person

Sorry bro.

Janosky:
[b]Oga, did God beget (born) Jesus his son?
Yes
Did God beget Isreal?
Not literally
Did God born the mountains?
Not literally
Oga, told us Jesus is the literal son of God.
Come and be lying that beget & born (as the Jews understand it) is not literal.

[/b]

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus can't be God since he is a servant of God so it's reasonable to conclude that he is God's Son as he himself said and since angels are God's sons too Jesus must have been one of them before coming to earth.

Simple. Anything other than this is what could be called going astray from truth!

This JW interpretation and its is false just like all the other false predictions you guys made in the past.

Dangote's children can go errands/ messengers for him, it does not make them less his literal Children.

He can appoint them to head his companies, assign offices and responsibilities to them, it still does not change the fact that they are his literal Children.

Try another lie

Janosky:
Tctrills,are you sure you even listening to yourself?
Adam and Solomon, which of them came to life first?

Adam is God's begotten son means that God fathered Adam by creation.

Hebrew 5:5 ,God begotten Jesus means that God Fathered Jesus his son by creation.
The God that appointed Jesus as High Priest made Jesus his creature.

Psalms 2:7, God Fathered Solomon by Creation.

Ephesians 4:6 Jehovah God is the Father of ALL by creation.
Every begotten is a creature.
Jesus the High Priest is a creature.
Every high priest is a creature.

Let this truth sink in to the max.

Crap.

Where in the Bible is it written that God beget Adam.

The same GOD that said he has never begotten any Angel/ Man or called anyone else his son except Jesus?

Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Abeg try to dey fear GOD small

MaxInDHouse:
But when you say someone who keeps begging another is the same person he's begging it makes perfect sense shey?

You keep talking illogical.

Me begging my Father for something means am not his literal Son?

MaxInDHouse:
Literal going by the English dictionary is physical but God has no physical son all of us are His creations that's what makes Jesus the first born! Colossians 1:15

I don laugh tire.
See interpretation.

Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Please interpret the above verse.



You guys Jw are very far from Heaven.
Not my word but God's word
1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.


1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Janosky:
The God that bore Isreal born the mountains.

The Jews never made your false claim.
Oga,Continue WAILING ooo!

The same Jews that Understood Jesus, meant he was the literal Son of God, and wanted to stone him? :oJohn 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 10:30 I and my Father are one. 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Janosky:
Therefore Jesus is NOT equal to God his Senior, ANCESTOR, Elder (Father)

As usual you are dodging the question.

You have boxed yourself into a corner.
You can see God is greater and smart than you false teachers.

I ask, how does God been greater than Jesus mean that,Jesus is not his literal Son, afterall we give birth to our sons, who are younger and less experienced than us.


John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
So answer me.

MaxInDHouse:
You reason like a kid, abeg try to grow up a little nah!😟
Whenever someone is always claims he knows everything about right and wrong people around him will conclude he is making himself God over others. That's the reason why you people have several religions all claiming Christians as you don't want to believe only one could know it all. Pharisees in the first century disagreed with the idea of someone far too young to claim he knows everything about right and wrong then saying he knows God's mind.

That's what happened!🙂

No reasonable you said here.