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MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious you don't know what to say rather you are seeking support from your fellow confused Churchians.

Sebi you mentioned my name and the name of my church. Oya mention the name of your own church too so that it remains only you and i nah!😂

Person wey no believe Bible nah him you dey follow shey?

Go to his threads and see how he's been questioning the Bible itself!😂

An yet he schooled you better in bible things, than you that claim(imposter) that Jesus appointed you.

cutecommend:
Many people are in hellfire. Even some people you know or heard of are in hellfire. They are burning and burning, crying and crying. We that are alive are just too lucky that we have chance to repent.

Truly, it is better to be a "gate man" in heaven that to go the hellfire.

Accept Jesus and repent today. Beg God! Beg God!! that He will give you grace to make heaven.

That's totally false , No one who dies goes to Heaven or Hell, till after the judgment day.

All the dead are in there grave resting, there is no work,love,envy,consciousness in death.


Psalms 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.


Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Even David the man after God's heart did not go to Heaven immediately after death, but is resting in the grave for his appointed time.
Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.

Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.

People are rewarded when Christ comes the 2nd time not before his coming.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.


2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Chegesnd:
Yeah!
At least your parents will be assured that you will not starve, there is enough milk for you and your children.

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I don laugh tire

Peak milk

Janosky:

Oga,Use Greek bible lexicon meaning & stop typing what you can't prove.

Greek gennao meaning beget,begotten, born, give birth,MAKE,produce,
IS DIFFERENT from
Greek monogenes meaning ONLY BORN / ONLY BEGOTTEN.
Greek genes comes from gennao.....

Screenshots evidences

Oga Tctrills, pls grow up.....

Your lie has been long disproved.

μονογενης is a Greek adjective consisting of the two parts, μονο (mono) and γενης (genes). There is no argument regarding the derivation of the first part of the word; it is from the Greek word μονον (monon), an adverb meaning ‘only’. The difference of opinion only arises in regard to the second part of the word, γενης. The traditional view is that γενης is to be derived from the Greek verb γενναω (‘to beget’), so that μονογενης means ‘only begotten’. But the more recent view is that γενης is derived from γενος, meaning ‘class’, ‘sort’, ‘kind’, so that μονογενης must mean ‘one of a kind’ or ‘unique’. In support of this latter view, some point out that γενος has only a single ν (the Greek letter, pronounced ‘nu’) as does μονογενης, while γενναω has two νs.2So which etymology is correct?

The following may be noted in regard to these two possible etymologies.

Firstly, the difference between the two etymologies is not as great as may at first appear. The difference is accentuated by choosing, from the range of possible meanings for, only those meanings which do not explicitly include the concept of ‘begetting’, such as ‘class’, ‘sort’, ‘kind’. But in fact γενος may also mean ‘offspring’, ‘posterity’, ‘race’, ‘stock’, ‘kin’, where the concept of ‘begetting’ or ‘derivation by birth’ is quite evidently included.3If such meanings were taken for γενος, then even if μονογενης is derived from γενος the meaning will still be ‘only offspring’, ‘only posterity’, etc., which are equivalent to ‘only begotten’.

Secondly, the claim that the γενης ending of μονογενης is to be derived from γενος, with the meaning ‘class’, ‘sort’, ‘kind’, may be tested by examining the meaning of the γενης ending in similar Greek adjectives which also have the same two-part structure.4The following is a list of such adjectives:5

αγεηνς: not of noble birth; low born
αγεννης: low bornδυσγενης: low born
ευγενης: well born, high born
ομογενης: of the same race or family
παλιγενης: born again, generated anew
πολυγενης: of many families
προγενης: born before
πρωτογενης: first born
συγγενης: related, akin

It may be observed that in all these words the concept of ‘begetting’ or ‘derivation by birth’ is clearly present. So how may it be confidently asserted that μονογενης does not contain the concept of ‘begetting’? The assertion does not appear to be confirmed by objective evidence. On the contrary, the evidence indicates that the concept of ‘begetting’ or ‘derivation by birth’ certainly can be conveyed by the γενης ending. It is therefore entirely possible that μονογενης means ‘only begotten’.

It may be also asked whether those who insist that the γενης ending in μονογενης is to be derived from γενος, with the meaning ‘class’, ‘sort’, ‘kind’, are as eager to insist on the same etymology for the words in the above list. Will it be insisted that ευγενης, for example, must mean ‘of a good sort’ rather than ‘well born’? In general, such will not be insisted upon. This is not only because it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to do so — the concept of ‘begotten’ being so clearly present in each of the words — but also because the words do not have the same theological significance that μονογενης has.6So here is an evident inconsistency, and an inconsistency that indicates that the etymology is neither impartial nor scientific.

It may be observed from this list of words ending in γενης that the similar meanings of αγενης and αγεννης indicates that no particular significance should be attached to the single ν as opposed to the doubled ν. There are numerous other Greek words from which the same inference may be drawn. For example, γενετης and γεννητης, both mean ‘begetter’, ‘parent’, though one has a single ν and in the other the ν is doubled. Also, it may be noted that γενετη means ‘birth’, although it has only one ν. Hence, the argument that μονογενης is to be derived from γενος, meaning ‘class’, ‘sort’, ‘kind’, because both words have only a single ν, and could not be derived from γενναω meaning to ‘beget’ because it has two νs, is a facile argument, incapable of being substantiated by the linguistic evidence.

From this examination of the two etymologies for μονογενης, it may be concluded that the meaning ‘only begotten’ is entirely possible. Certainly there are no grounds for summarily dismissing that meaning as is often done. On the other hand, the etymology of μονογενης which insists on deriving the γενης ending from γενος and then arbitrarily restricts the possible meanings of γενος within a narrow range, though those same meanings are not applied to other similar Greek words, cannot be considered an impartial or scientific etymology.

One final point may be made on the etymological question. Some have argued that the correct Greek word for ‘only begotten’ should be μονογεννετος, and not μονογενης.7But perhaps no argument in this debate over etymology more undermines the position it was advanced to defend. This is due to the simple fact that μονογεννετος never actually occurs either in the New Testament or anywhere else in ancient Greek literature. There are only two possible explanations for this non-occurrence. The first is that the Greeks never had a concept of ‘only begotten’. This seems unlikely since they certainly have a concept of ‘begetting’: so why would they not have a concept of ‘only begotten’?8The second is that, assuming the Greeks did have a word for ‘only begotten’, the reason μονογεννετος never appears is simply because μονογενης was the Greek word used with that meaning. There are no other reasonable alternatives. Ironically, then, the insistence that the correct word for ‘only begotten’ must be μονογεννετος and not μονογενης actually lends support to μονογενης being the correct word.

https://www.christianstudylibrary.org/article/monogenes-%E2%80%9Conly-begotten%E2%80%9D-or-%E2%80%9Cone-kind%E2%80%9D

Janosky:
@John 13:16 & Revelation 1:1,
Jesus recognize his Inferiority to God his ANCESTOR in the spiritual realm.

Oga,Jesus proves that there is hierarchy in heaven.
There is no equality in heaven.
Father in your Bible means ANCESTOR ,SENIOR.

Ephesians 4:6,Jehovah God has no Father ,no Senior, no ancestor anywhere,unlike Jesus.

Even the Jews knew that Jesus meant he was the literal Son of God.

Hence why they wanted to stone him.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one. 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

MaxInDHouse:
I don comot that guy for my diary tey tey anything he types is no go area for me if he like let him quote and mention me one million times to me he no longer exist!🙂

You don take idea run, because the guy dey bombarded you with questions way you no fit answer.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what Satan is using to blindfold all of them!

They thought Jesus is the same person who surrendered himself to test himself by himself and later approved himself by himself so there is no reason why integrity matters after all God was only playing hide and seek.

But if they realize that Jesus could have lost and loose everything just as Satan planned for him it will help them because i don't understand how someone could use his or her brain to be advocating such senselessness!😟

Keep fooling yourself.

No where Jesus been the Literal son of God equates to him been equal with God.

No boy/man is equal to his father, but does that make the boy or man less human than his father?

Jesus is GOD by nature, having the fullness and divinity of his father,which no man or Angel have.

I have wrote articles against the trinity doctrine on this forum, no where have I advocated that Jesus is equal in all authority to his father.

JW are false teachers.

Janosky:
Him forget say Jesus talk @ John 5:26 confirm Paul's teaching of Ephesians 3:14-15.
Every being in heaven owes their name to Jehovah.
In heaven,Jesus owes his name to his ANCESTOR ,Jehovah God

Don't you owe your name to your father, does that mean you are not his literal or biological son ?

Goldrosewine:
The one and only true GOAT! Siu is already shitting his pants, jittery and scary, Messi keep snatching the records😘😘😘😘

Always your girl, Gold Rose 🍷

Fine girl.

U too fine like Messi career

Janosky:
Let me use your term "pre-incarnate" & "incarnate."
Jesus left his preincarnate life & began his incarnate life where he died.
He died faithful to his God when he resurrected to his preincarnate life.
If he became rebellious during his incarnate life,he would have lost immortality forever.
1 Peter 3:18. Hebrew 5:7-8.

That's the risk he took because of his love for man.
John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

That's why it cost God so much to let Jesus take that Risk or chance, just to save me and you, and the entire humanity.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Oizee:
After Equatorial guinea maybe it's the turn of Nigeria this time

I tell you.

Tomorrow now, E go become president for Naija

MaxInDHouse:
It applies to you who can't mention any group under which you are obediently doing what Jesus commanded.

That's what makes you a worker of INIQUITY/LAWLESSNESS.

You should be able to present a group under whose umbrella you are together as obedient disciples serving Christ.

In the absence of that you are just deceiving yourself claiming self righteousness!😂

Keep fooling yourself.

If its by group, then Rotary club, freemasons, Illuminati and many others would make Heaven.

MaxInDHouse:
It applies to you who can't mention any group under which you are obediently doing what Jesus commanded.

That's what makes you a worker of INIQUITY/LAWLESSNESS.

You should be able to present a group under whose umbrella you are together as obedient disciples serving Christ.

In the absence of that you are just deceiving yourself claiming self righteousness!😂

How are you doing the will of the father( GOD)?
When you lie against, the testimony he gave about his son.

MaxInDHouse:
You can't know him more than his real disciples so prove you know him better by presenting your church that's actively preaching and teaching globally! Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8

Keep fooling yourself.

I hope you ponder on this verses.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't inherit it rather he was given after completing the task he came to fulfill on earth.
Immortals means can't die so if Jesus die it means he doesn't inherit it rather God declared it after Jesus conquered.

For your information all born again Christians will become immortal once they finish their earthly mission just as Jesus did that's why they are referred to as SAVED! Revelations 20:5-6

This is pure blasphemy.

Do you even have sense?
How can you expect jesus as a Man not to die, when his purpose of coming to Earth was to experience death for humanity?


My emphasis on Christ Immortality is the pre-incarnate Jesus.

As a man, Jesus was 100% pure human.
But weather as a man or as the Pre- incarnate Jesus he was 100% the literal Son of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Who is talking about charity?😂

Jesus selected few men to form a group and handed the work over to them {Luke 6:13} so if you don't have any organized group with which you are obediently working as a disciple {Act 2:42} Jesus doesn't know you! Matthew 25:34-46

So JW is the group Jesus formed and handed over his work to?

Imagine, workers that deny the Origin of their Boss, what kind of workers are they?

MaxInDHouse:
There is nothing literal in this all sons of God owe their life to God and Jesus isn't different!🙂

Keep deceiving yourself.

Why is it not convenient for you to accept other Bible verses that talks about the Diety of Jesus, why accepting only the verse that claims all sons of God?

What are you running from?

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell the life of Jesus we know here on planet earth depends on God shey?
What else do you wish to know?🙂

How does that prove that, Jesus is not the literal Son of God?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said it's obedience to those he chose that heaven will approve whatever we do {Matthew 16:19} his first century disciples also believes this! Hebrews 13:7

So if your activities in sacred service is not pleasing to Jesus' representatives i'm sorry for you! Matthew 25:45🙂

That same Bible and Jesus told you that obey is better than Sacrifice.

Occultists and witches and even killers,prostitutes kidnappers and ppl who commit all sort of crimes also give charities and do good deeds, but all those things are vanity before God, if they are done without obedience and faith in his word.


Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Janosky:
You know & I know that Matthew 27:46,50 is in your Bible (not deleted).

What has Matthew 27:46,50, got to prove about Jesus been Immortal.

Are you mistaken the pre- incarnate Jesus with the Incarnate Jesus(Man)?

Of course Matthew 27:46,50 is talking about Jesus's death as a man here on Earth.

Jesus was 100% Man here on earth, but he still remained the Son of God.

The pre-incarnate Jesus is divine,immortal and can never see death.

Janosky:
That is the point Jesus made about himself @ John 5:26 .


John 5:26 .
For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.
Jesus was given life by Jehovah God ,Rev 3:14


You have not proven anything.

Of course parents give life and existence to their children.
God gave life and existence to his son Jesus.
Can any Angel or Man claim to have life in himself?


Jesus has taught you that John 6:46 & 1 Tim 6:16 does refers to his Father,Jehovah whom no man has ever seen.
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Where did I state that john6:46 and 1Tim6:16 refers to Jesus?

You can see from those verses that only GOD has Immortality, No Angel or Man has Immortality.

Jesus been the Literal offspring and only begotten of GOD has Immortality inherently, having inherited it from his father, GOD.

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't agree it's not by force at least you know what we believe by that word "ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" you and your fellow worshipers can figure it out and apply it as you people feel.
As for us only begotten son among the angels means the only angel God created Himself {Proverbs 8:22} who assisted in the creation of other things! Colossians 1:15-16

You are more intrested in pleasing Man than GOD.

I hope you ponder on this words.

God does not take it lightly any one joking with the identity of Jesus or what he God has said about his son , your salvation and that of every other person depends on it,

Unless you are trying to make GOD a liar.

Not my word but GOD’S word.


1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?


1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.


1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

martinskelly:
Gentlemen, All I can deduce from all of this whole Epistles, narrations, illustrations and teaching is that some christians are self-centered/baised.
We all choose what suits us and ignore the prominent ones.
Humans will always be humans as long as you were born by an earthly parents, Angels will always be Angels of God because God himself created them and wanted them above humans, but calling Jesus Christ an angel as the same as all other Angels God created in heaven is what I don't really understand; Even the Bible explicitly stated otherwise. Please John 3:16 is enough to clear this Angels and Jesus argument you all are throwing up in this thread.

Please kindly preach the word of God to unbelievers and leave the rest to God instead of arguing what is already stated in the Bible.

Lest I forget: INDOCTRINATION is the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.


My 2cents.

It's is very important, because false doctrines can led people to Hell and to be in enmity with God without knowing.

Even Jesus was eager to know who men said he was.

Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

The Bible aslo laid emphasis on Jesus been the Son of God,Infact the entire drama about Man's existence and his salvation is meaningless if the identity of Jesus is not Clear and glorified.


1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?


1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.


1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Christains are aslo warned against false teachers who promote fake teachings and doctrines like this.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

MaxInDHouse:
When Peter said:

“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Matthew 16:16

Was he talking to a human?🙂

Yes Jesus was fully human on Earth.

That did not change his status as God's Son.

lagonovo:
Don't listen to Pastor Sule jo, e too dey fear. We are body, soul and spirit. The Village people are your people, do not deny the basic ingredients needed for their passion on the spirit side. Post as many pictures as you wish. They won't harm you or your children, they only need the pictures as point of contact to stay close to you spiritually. .

I don laugh tire.

Make dey run him and the children streets

MaxInDHouse:
Someone said:

“Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” Luke 23:46

“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but as you will.” Matthew 26:39

And Paul said about this same person:

While Jesus lived on earth he prayed to God, asking for help from the one who could save him from death. He prayed to God with loud cries and tears. And his prayers were answered because of his great respect for God. Hebrews 5:7

Jesus' life depend on God, true or false?🙂

That's as a man,( incarnate)his life depended on God.

But as the Son of God(pre-incarnate), he had life inherently.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

That is why he was the most qualified to redeem man.
John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
He is called eternal life for a reason.

1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

No Angel have life in himself.

ussv:
I would think the girl gets high to cope with stark reality.

No be lie.

An ine dude is telling us, that age does not matter.

hotseat:
The way you guys demonize old age is like it's an offense to be old.

The old men of today were the young guys of yesterday.

Tomorrow, if God permits, you too would become old and would be taunted by others coming after you.

Remember the song "when I get small money, me sef go dorime gan ... King Solomon, I go do pass you".

Even the Holy Book says" money answereth all things".

Regina needed the money which Ned could afford and she went for it.

She was neither kidnapped nor forced into the marriage.

Again, age is nothing but a number!

If only Regina could come back to her senses, she would have a blissful marriage.

Many young couples divorce daily like it's nothing new.

Age difference is not the issue but, her inability to comport herself due to the negative influence of family and friends.

Think about it!




@hotseat

Dey decive yourself.

Age matters alot.

tnerro1:
Oga when e reach your turn, keep quiet so one lousy girl and her family will turn the whole world against you. Until you dey waka for road persin break bottle for ur head because of wetin you no do, maybe that time you go get sense and speak out

Him way go see girl the age of his grand daughter, E still go marry watin expect?