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Mujtahida:
Modern football is tactically demanding but physically the kind of rough play Pele and down to Maradona endured, many players in this age are bubbles. Football is almost becoming a no contact sport.

Your last sentence is true in reverse.

Gbam

TheSuperNerd:
Kayode's season stats so far
Clubside: Gazisehir Gaziantep, Turkey- Super Liga (Charles Biko bear with the name).


✓8 appearances
✓ 774 mins
✓ 3 goals
✓3 assists
✓A goal involvement every 129 mins


Not bad!

He is sitting up now but I doubt Rohr will look at him with these kids tearing it up now in better leagues

charlesemeka85:
I will go for romario as 3rd

Schevchenko 4th and Henry 5th

Shevchenko?

He should be 10th abeg

TheGoodJoe:
You think those guys can match Sane or Mane in fitness? Or do you see how effortlessly Mo Salah runs at fast pace?

Do you read how CR7 train for hours to maintain his fitness? What about the revolutionary diet those guys are on?

Those Brazilians will not even come close.

Look at some Pictures of Sane. This is not power-power body but high grade fitness.

Oga, he just answered your question. Why do you like going around in circles?

The guys of old didn't have all these modern gym and equipment and tech yet they played an insane no of games in harsh officiating conditions. Note that racism was rife and many refs were dirty

Kbs468:
Don't mind Icon79 for counting the cupped international friendly between BRAZIL ARGENTINA as international trophy won by MESSI with even just one penalty rebound Goal to his credit

A real gaffe

Messi has zero international trophy

TheSuperNerd:
Na so. Walker?? Walker got nothing on Cafu. Walker is fit and a running beast but nothing special.
Even Carlos Alberto is levels above Walker in all aspects even in fitness. How Alberto got up and down the pitch was a marvel combined with his Football IQ.

Mendy is a LB. And he still falls behind great LBs of the game like R.Carlos and co. He should try staying fit for a full season then I can start taking him seriously.
Biassaka is all power and pace. Nothing special.

Robertson is indeed the only one I can point to that is vintage. A true fit LB with a highly cerebral brain for the beautiful game.

So you can see they aren't hundreds of Cafu, Carlos, Lizarazu, Carlos Alberto kinda fullbacks.

Don't also forget Willy Sagnol

His career was cut short by injury at 31 yrs of age but that guy was so good!!!!!!

To settle argument, I think we here should just list our first 11 of all time.

I'll drop mine in a few

charlesemeka85:
Yea he is, the most complete no 9 I have ever seen in the game. Skillful, pacy, strong and prolific, de Lima is the greatest no 9 of all time.

My 2nd pick is van basten

Exactly.

Then, I'll put Henry or Ibrahimovic in third position

TheGoodJoe:
Have you watched Mendy and Kyle Walker play? These two guys are up and down the pitch in seconds. Sometimes you find them in attack and defence at split second intervals.

We have loads of very fit full backs. Watch Wan Bissaka, Robertson (who I feel is the fittest), Danny Rose impresses me a lot.

Stop that!!!

Comparing kyle walker and Mendy to Cafu Chai....

Cafu don't suffer

To whom it may concern

https://web.archive.org/web/20151019002225/http://www.empireonline.com/forum/printable.asp?m=1554851

Eartquake1:
You dey see am for your country?

I no see am oo

Bolowolowo:
Osihmen vs Lyon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_0afGyT08c

Thanks bro.

TheSuperNerd:
Blueelf quietly and happily waiting for the highlights to drop....

Thanks bro

TheSuperNerd:
Glad to see Lille pick up their first away win in Ligue 1 this season. But wait ooo... They had to wait to do it against one of Ligue 1's biggest sides.... Olympique Lyonnais. And also because they had Osimhen. Osimhen gives this Lille side wings. It is obvious they can function dangerously and have higher confidence and better threat with Osimhen in their lineup.

Good times.

Maja and Osimhen making my day. Good one lads.

Me, patiently waiting for ligue 1 conforama to drop highlights of both matches on YouTube.

Could you help me with an appropriate meme please

Bolowolowo:
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, but a good World Cup run is most certainly possible if the current trend is maintained.

I know bro. Just hyped for them.[quote]

TheSuperNerd:
Apart from Tbaba, the other three na Messi fanboys and Barca fans (Andrew na both Barca and Man City hybrid ), so Dem no go gree. Lol

I know. That's why I included them. Hearing from diverse persons means I can better see both sides of the coin

TheSuperNerd:
They faced England in that same WC. England had Charlton, Geoff Hurst, Moore... Come on tell me that is not a crack squad.

They also faced South American rivals, Uruguay.

In that era, Pele repeatedly came up against the best defences in world football with his club Santos when he went on yearly global tours based on invitations to tournaments and top class friendlies against several of Europe's best sides from the La Liga, The English League (Pre-EPL era), the Serie A and then from Germany. The world wanted to see how Pele consistently fared against Europe's finest sides and Europe's meanest defences.. and guess what, Pele bested them all. He passed all tests in flying colors and proved his mettle as the best in the world.

These many games are part of the reason he could rack up so many goals statistically. He did it against Milan, Bayern, Benfica, Madrid, Etc...

Okay, strong argument

Please does anybody here have contrary opinion?

Eartquake1, andrewbaba44, icon79, tbaba1234, what to you guys think?

Osimhen with an assist

I'm so happy for our boys

Bit we need to scout for more full backs and Gks

TheSuperNerd:
All these names I mentioned, I watched enough hours of them play. There is a reason we have videos tech naa. I had the privilege of studying and watching enough of most of the greats. Johan Cryuff and the Dutch team invented a turn and a football style in the 70s that is still being used today. So much for today being more complex.

Pele and the 1970 Brazil team played a brand of football still not seen any side today. Not even Spain's side of 2008-2012 surpasses the Brazil 1970 side. That Brazil 1970 side went unbeaten from qualifiers till the WC finals and beat a super strong Italian team boasting the meanest defenders of that era. That era, the serie A was the league giving out the least number of goals statistically. The defences then were super mean and Pele played against them all with Santos and bested them times without number.

What about Germany in 1970 with the German Bomber, Gerd Muller? The Italian defence and mafian style overcame that legendary German attack to further show you how really good the Italians Brazil beat were.

Nice argument. I see your point now. However, it remains difficult to convince modern day soccer fans about the greats of old because not everybody has the interest or patience to go watch and study their videos.

But again, were the Italians the only mean defence that the Pele-led Brazil faced in the WC? I'm asking because if so, then there is a hole on your argument. Some people here say that Pele hardly faced world class defenders in his time (save for the Italians you just mentioned)

Please note that I'm just trying to learn. I don't really have an informed opinion on the matter yet

Sportilitica:
Who first spoke about this Maja dude on this thread? Some people do have foresight

I think Komekn and theSupernerd

Bolowolowo:
Dessers, Maja, Nacho and Umar...the race to be Osimhen’s deputy is on!!!!

Now, teams in Africa should start to be afraid of the Super Eagles...... Our players are red hot, especially the attackers.

I pray Rohr stays. I see these guys in the Semi-Finals of Qatar 2022 with proper tactics and management

andrewbaba44:
My people una good evening ooo

See as una dey enjoy Josh Maja, good for for the kid and good one for naija football

Me i no kuku get una time for now, I still dey celebrate the greatest footballer ever 6th balon d or

I believe icon79 will be doing the same anywhere he is

May God bless you all my people and a wonderful week ahead

Enjoy oooo

You guys deserved it. Can't fault the award. He had a phenomenal year

TheSuperNerd:
Ehmmmm.... **Whispers** Long enough into 2020 to enable Dessers, Maja or perhaps Okereke step into the 2nd choice striker role and perhaps steal it for themselves while he (Onuachu) recovers? **No loud am ooo... Before some go think say I want the lad to remain inactive**



*You code naa**

I caught you...

gamaliel9:
Pele was better than Rivelino...Rivelino was better than Maradona...Maradona was better than Messi and Cristiano combined


This is for those who saw these people LIVE...


Generally players from 60s to 2000 are far better than the craps we have today,,,Argue with Alvaro Recouba.....

Bro, I want to believe you. I really do

However, I doubt many of us here were really mature then to watch them life and analyze. So, it'll be hard to take sides on the matter

Even I have to look for YouTube videos to compare game plays of classic greats to modern greats

If we have a friendly match tomorrow, it'll be a no-brainer for Rohr to drop Onuachu. He knows now that even he has to step up or be booted out

wayodude:
What we need now is a good local coach and some home based strikers to boost the team

Na play I dey o lol

If I catch you and your play ehn....

Danielnino00:
Hat trick for Maja... Hat trick for Maja...
Maja has just left them behind

God, I'm so happy.

Its a great time to be a Super Eagles Supporter

Chai

andrewbaba44:
This dominic solanke dey enjoy ooo, no epl goals for long and dem even still dey give am 90 minutes ?

Very strange abi

TheSuperNerd:
All this one you write na lie abeg. Very lame and untrue arguments built up overtime to discredit the Legend of Pele.


In Pele's era, you had greats like Eusebio, Bobby Charlton, Franz Beckanbeaur, Bobby Moore, Gordon Banks, Lev Yashin, Raymond Kopa (after whom the Kopa trophy for best U-21 talents is named), Gerd Muller, Garrincha, Rivelino, etc etc....

Football get men that time abeg. No dey talk wetin you no know.

Nerdy, it's not a about name alone oo. While I agree that those names were great I'm their own right but how was their play compared to the plays of modern day footballers? I don't really know bro and thus, I hope you'll enlighten me

kellycute:
mtcheeew.

See ,Kelly, we no dey fight. Myy point is that we need to understand that we will not agree everytime. Many of us will have contrary views to one another but when we do, we should try as much as possible to argue maturely and intelligently without hurling invectives.

We are one here bro

TheSuperNerd:
Semi Ajayi in the Championship yesterday

West brom won 1-0 away and stay top of the English Championship table. Semi Ajayi was Man of the Match.

Semi Ajayi vs Preston North End:

14 Aerials Won
48 Touches
2 Tackles
4 Clearances
86.5% Pass Accuracy
Back on top on the League
9 Games unbeaten now

**MOTM: 7.76 Match Rating

Please what position did he play?

LaMujer:
I'm still wondering why Chucks wasn't invited though. He was a nominee, even if he wasn't going to win, courtesy demanded he be invited.




I don't want to believe he was invited and he bunked it

I don't think he was the only nominee not invited