Politics › Re: Kano Election Petition Tribunal Ruling: It Is Laughable – NNPP by BluntCrazeMan: 11:32am On Sep 21, 2023 |
JagabanB: So u agree that a party can field a candidate that did not Join the party 30 days before elections? That is totally a party issue. If anyone in the party didn't like the idea,, he for don challenge am.. And as for the 30-days brouhaha.. The Electoral-Act didn't specify any punishment for anyone whose name was not in the party’s list 30-days before their primaries.. So, why would judges start making their own laws, and be prescribing punishments which the laws didn't prescribe.?? |
Politics › Re: Kano Election Petition Tribunal Ruling: It Is Laughable – NNPP by BluntCrazeMan: 11:28am On Sep 21, 2023 |
Mopolchi: It is worrisome and intriguing that in the 163,000 unsigned and unstamped ballot papers that no one voted for APC but only NNPP. See the response someone gave.. garfield1: Apc went through the votes of only NNPP not all the parties.apc were targeting nnpp votes and strongholds and advantages not that of other parties or apc. Apc counted it in the presence of nnpp,inec,court officials and then presented the void votes to the judges in open court and displayed it.. |
Politics › Re: Kano Election Petition Tribunal Ruling: It Is Laughable – NNPP by BluntCrazeMan: 11:23am On Sep 21, 2023*. Modified: 11:48am On Sep 21, 2023 |
garfield1: Apc went through the votes of only NNPP not all the parties.apc were targeting nnpp votes and strongholds and advantages not that of other parties or apc. Apc counted it in the presence of nnpp,inec,court officials and then presented the void votes to the judges in open court and displayed it not dumping it like obi.this is what obi should have done not rigmarolling and talking of nonsense.this is how to make a case Now,, this means the APC brought about 1,019,602 ballot papers that were thumb-printed for NNPP to the tribunal and counted it in front of the judges... So as to effectively cut down only the votes of NNPP.?? HOW DOES THIS SOUND TO YOU.?? What prevented them from doing the same tying to the 890,705 ballot papers that were thumb-printed for APC.??The best thing would have been to do the same thing to all the DAANNGG BALLOT PAPERS... And not to be totally unreasonably unfair to a particular party. Meanwhile,, This is not about Obi.. So, try and see if you can stay focused on the topic. Thanks.. |
Politics › Re: Kano Election Petition Tribunal Ruling: It Is Laughable – NNPP by BluntCrazeMan: 11:09am On Sep 21, 2023 |
garfield1: Votes were cancelled not results APC claimed that they meticulously went through about 1.9million+ ballot papers which were used in the governorship election, one after the other,, and they found out that ONLY 165,663 of these Ballot Papers were not stamped nor signed.. And out of these 165,663 ballot papers, none of them were void,, none of them were thumb-printed for other parties,, None of them were thumb-printed for APC..
ALL OF THEM WERE THUMB-PRINTED FOR NNPP..They Have To Provide The Whole 1.9million+ in court.. Providing only the affected 165,663 ballot papers in court is not a proper court process, and it results in ambush against the respondents. |
Politics › Re: LP: No Ticket For Obi In 2027, He Should Go Back To APGA - Apapa-faction by BluntCrazeMan: 8:25am On Sep 21, 2023*. Modified: 8:50am On Sep 21, 2023 |
Relax Oga..
It must NOT be APGA..
Apart from APC, PDP, APGA, and LP..
There are 14 other parties..
And if Independent Candidacy gets signed into law before 2027,, then, he will definitely run as an independent candidate..
By that time,, they can then wine and dine with their Nonsense Labour Party. |
Politics › Re: Kano Election Petition Tribunal Ruling: It Is Laughable – NNPP by BluntCrazeMan: 8:24am On Sep 21, 2023 |
Is it that 165,663 votes were deducted from the votes of NNPP due the cancellation of an unknown number of polling units?? So, how many votes of the APC were affected in these cancelled polling units.??
In some other news.. I read that the polling-unit results in 165,663 different polling units were cancelled..
WHICH ONE IS TRUE.?? |
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Politics › Re: How The Electronic Voting Option Can Be Achievable In Nigeria by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:12am On Sep 21, 2023*. Modified: 1:19pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: How The Electronic Voting Option Can Be Achievable In Nigeria by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:01am On Sep 21, 2023 |
KnowAll: I have seen it. I think a test run should be rolled out in on coming elections. As soon as possible oo.. Both the “Remote Voting Option” and the “Electronic Voting Option” at the Polling Units..Even if they have to test-run it by conducting a MOCK ELECTION,, I definitely will participate in it |
Politics › Re: How The Electronic Voting Option Can Be Achievable In Nigeria by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:47am On Sep 21, 2023 |
KnowAll: Y can’t we vote with our phone. Even if you have 10 numbers y, can’t one be accredited and use to vote. I wrote extensively about this inside the post.. Read the post. |
Politics › Re: How The Electronic Voting Option Can Be Achievable In Nigeria by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:45am On Sep 21, 2023*. Modified: 8:10am On Sep 21, 2023 |
Racoon: Even the electronic accreditation and collation of result was bastardized by INEC because of the desire to rig the election in favour of a well known criminal.
The problem is not the relevant laws to deepen our electoral processes, but the firmness and sincerity of our regulatory institutions The problem is still with the Electoral-Act.. Many people pointed it out earlier... (That the Electoral-Act depended so much on the INEC..)So, the Electoral-Act should be thoroughly amended in such a way that the INEC will only have to do it's work as stipulated for them inside the Act,, and not given any space inside the Act to have any FREE HAND.. |
Politics › Re: How The Electronic Voting Option Can Be Achievable In Nigeria by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:23am On Sep 21, 2023*. Modified: 8:08am On Sep 21, 2023 |
Righthussle: You people have started again oo. Is It About The Russian Hackers?? See my brother... Until we get what we want out of this whole situation,, we will never get tired of talking ooo.. So, don't ever get tired of seeing us. |
Politics › Re: How The Electronic Voting Option Can Be Achievable In Nigeria by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:18am On Sep 21, 2023*. Modified: 8:04am On Sep 21, 2023 |
. . . . I am expecting some people to come and start talking about RUSSIAN HACKERS..
MEANWHILE,, THIS WILL BE A VERY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NIGERIAN TECH EXPERTS TO INVEST HEAVILY IN AND CASH-OUT BIG TIME.. |
Politics › How The Electronic Voting Option Can Be Achievable In Nigeria by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:17am On Sep 21, 2023*. Modified: 1:09pm On Sep 21, 2023 |
MY PERSONAL OPINIONS ON HOW THE “ELECTRONIC VOTING OPTION” CAN BE ACHIEVABLE IN THE NIGERIAN ELECTORAL PROCESS..
It must be noted that before Electronic Voting can be achieved,, the Electoral-Act must have already made the INSTANT Electronic Transmission and INSTANT Electronic Collation of Election Results mandatory and compulsory... And that the Commission (INEC) must have already perfected the usage of the electronic transmission and collation of results, as well as the review and announcement of the official results.
In Section-41(1) of the Electoral-Act-2022, the Act made use of the Term “electronic voting machine or any other voting device for the conduct of elections”. This means that the Electoral-Act envisages the possibility of expanding the Electoral Technologies in the nearest future to include Electronic Voting Technologies too. This also means that the Electronic Voting Option is highly achievable and obtainable in Nigeria.
All that it would take is to amend the Electoral-Act in order to INCLUDE the “Electronic Voting Option” as one of the Options for casting the ballot.
It will not be a good idea to make “Electronic Voting” the only method of voting for all the voters.
Thus, the Section-50(1) and Section-103(5) of the Electoral-Act should be adjusted to read thus: “Voting at an election under this Act shall either be by open secret paper ballot, or by open secret electronic voting with the use of the electronic voting machine; and both methods of voting shall be happening simultaneously at the Polling Unit”.
Like I pointed out earlier,, before the members of the National Assembly can successfully add the electronic voting option in the Electoral-Act,, the INEC must have already perfected their acts in the electronic-accreditation, electronic-transmission, and electronic-collation, and in the instant synchronization of all electoral data across all the electronic platforms for the storage and processing and display of election data on the election day.
Here below are the 5 things which the INEC must have perfected their acts in, before Nigeria can think of having electronic voting option included in the Electoral-Act. . 1. Electronic Accreditation for all voters. The compulsory BVAS Accreditation and authentication of voters by the INEC must be made mandatory and compulsory. (This can be considered as “Achieved” in the current electoral dispensation of Nigeria.)
2. Instant Synchronisation of the Electronic Accreditation Data for all voters. Once anyone gets accredited, whether on the BVAS or on the Proposed Voting-Machine,, the accreditation information gets instantly synchronised on the electronic register of voters, and thus, the person cannot be able to present himself to be accredited again for voting.
3. Bimodal biometric/facial authentication of all voters. The bimodal authentication of all the voters before voting must be made to be mandatory and compulsory.
4. Instant Electronic Transmission and Electronic Collation of results at the end of voting exercise. (This too should also be made to be mandatory and compulsory too..)
5. Publicly viewable “Results-Dashboard” and/or “results-viewing-portal”.. There should be a properly arranged dashboard or portal where the results of all the levels of results (both the polling unit results and the collated results), and all the categories of results (including both the paper-ballots and electronic ballots) are instantly available, and where they can all be viewed separately; including both the initial electronic collations of the results, as well as the Official Reviewed Collated Results.
With these five parameters fully available and fully operational for all the voters and for all the election results, then it will be very easy to include the electronic-voting option in the Electoral-Act without much problems..
Meanwhile,, if the INEC cannot guarantee that all these five conditions can be met completely and comfortably,, then, there is no need “wishing” to have the Electronic Voting Option included in the Electoral-Act For the Nigerian System.
Nevertheless... After the Electronic Voting Option had been included in the Electoral-Act, the Act should also make some things mandatory and compulsory, which include:
1. “That all the electronic machines and voting devices shall always be live online, and be constantly synchronised with the electronic register, and also constantly synchronised with all the necessary Collation Systems and servers throughout the whole time that the election is going on”.
2. “That the number of accredited voters and the number of votes that were cast on the machines shall be temporarily stored inside the electronic machine, and not to be made visible on the INEC’s Results-Dashboard, until the presiding officer synchronizes the data on the Electronic Machine with those of the Paper-ballot votes, and transmit the total final results to the COLLATION SYSTEM”.
3. “That the results from the polling-units (as well as all the electronically collated, and the reviewed collated results) should be well categorized on the results-dashboard in such a way that the paper-ballot votes are sorted and collated differently from the electronically cast votes”.
4. “That after announcing the final results of the election and declaring the winner, the INEC shall instantly publish on the INEC’s official website, the Electronic Versions of the Electronically-Collated Results (which were gotten from the direct electronic collation), as well as the “Reviewed Collated Results” which were gotten from the reviewing of the Electronically-Collated Results. The reviews are to be done by the INEC’s Collation Officers and Returning Officer. The INEC shall make these two sets of results available for download in a readable format”. Source: https://twitter.com/OkayUmme/status/1703866321690153262 MY PERSONAL OPINIONS ON HOW THE “REMOTE ELECTRONIC VOTING WITH MOBILE DEVICES” CAN BE ACHIEVABLE IN THE NIGERIAN ELECTORAL PROCESS..
If the Electoral-Act intends to expand the “Electronic Voting Option” even further, in such a way that it can accommodate the remote voting with mobile devices,, then more security measures are required to be included in the Act.
In addition to all the five prerequisite conditions for the inclusion of the Electronic Voting Option in the Electoral-Act, the Act should also make these following conditions mandatory:
1. “That the remote voting software or Application shall always be live online, and constantly synchronised with the electronic register, and also constantly synchronised with all the necessary Collation Systems and servers throughout the moment when the user is voting”.
2. “That only ONE user can log-on to the voting software or Application on any device, and that such a user cannot be simultaneously logged-on on more than ONE device at a time. And that ONLY THE USER who is logged-on on any device can vote with that device he or she is logged-on on the election day”.
3. “That no user can log-on on the Voting software or Application on any device anywhere on the election day - once the time-window for the election on the election day had started counting”.
4. “That the identification of the user’s voter’s-card details on the election day - before the actual authentication and voting - shall ONLY be by “scanning” of the card, and Not by inputting the card’s details in the voting app for search”.
5. “That after the successful bimodal biometric/facial authentication of the remote voter, the voting software or Application shall continue to “view” the face of the user (who is now referred to as a voter) while he or she casts his or her vote, to ensure that the voter keeps his or eyes on the screen while voting, otherwise the software or Application shall prompt the voter to keep his or her eyes on the screen while voting”.
6. “That whenever the voting software or Application detects other pair (or pairs) of eyes other than those of the voter, the app should prompt the voter to suspend the voting exercise for some seconds and go to a place with sufficient privacy without exiting the voting software or Application -- so as to avoid breaching the rule of secrecy of the voting exercise”.
7. “That after the successful online voting by the user, the voting module in the voting software or Application shall automatically close, and the results of his or her casted vote and accreditation data shall get instantly transmitted to the dedicated “waiting” server which serves the particular polling-unit where he or she is registered to vote.”
8. “That the dedicated “waiting” server shall function as a temporary storage to the accreditation and voting data, which serves each polling unit (and keeps such data well secured, and away from being transmitted to the collation systems and/or to the results-dashboard), pending the time the presiding officer of the polling unit synchronizes all the data that are related to the polling-unit at the end of election, and transmit them to the Collation System”.
9. “That once a user had successfully completed his bimodal authentication for the sake of voting, the voting software or Application must ensure that he or she casts his or her votes as quickly as possible, in order to avoid unforseen circumstances; since any abrupt power outage or malfunctioning of the device after the successful authentication - which abruptly causes the voting software or Application to go offline - shall cause the voting software or Application to submit a blank/voided vote, and therefore the person cannot present himself again for accreditation and voting - even at the polling unit. Since the electronic devices for accreditation and authentication at the polling unit would be showing that the person had already voted”.
10. “That the INEC shall configure the voting software or Application in such a way that.. immediately the results get transmitted from the polling-unit by the presiding officer, the software or Application notifies the user that the results from his or her polling unit had been transmitted”.
11. “That the results of the election at all levels shall be well categorized on the results-dashboard in such a way that the paper-ballot votes are sorted and collated differently from the electronically cast votes at the polling-units, and that they are also differently sorted from the remotely cast votes”.
12. “That after announcing the final results of the election and declaring the winner, the INEC shall instantly publish on the INEC’s official website, the Electronic Versions of the Electronically-Collated Results (which were gotten from the direct electronic collation), as well as the “Reviewed Collated Results” which were gotten from the reviewing of the Electronically-Collated Results. The reviews are to be done by the INEC’s Collation Officers and Returning Officer. The INEC shall make these two sets of results available for download in a readable format”. Source: https://twitter.com/OkayUmme/status/1703879677096419716 |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 2:42pm On Sep 20, 2023*. Modified: 4:51pm On Sep 20, 2023 |
justified007: They're so arrogant they can't liaise with other parties especially PDP Hmmm.. You expect LP to go and get evidence from another party?? It's better for LP to get evidence from INEC,, than for them to get it from another party.PDP that happened to be their parent political party... This is a very ignorant stance.. LP started long before the birth of PDP sef. PDP is actually a parent party to APC.. And not to LP. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 11:34am On Sep 20, 2023 |
justified007: If LP didn't have clear copies of the result from a whopping 18,088 polling units how then did they come about their claim that they won the election? That means they have zero presence in 18,000 units of the federation.
They truly deseved those heavy fines imposed on them It means that NO SINGLE PARTY recorded any presence in whooping 18,000 polling units. (Not only LP). The total number of affected registered voters in these 18k+ polling units are bigger than the margin of lead. Meanwhile,, there were no imposed fines on the parties. |
Politics › Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by BluntCrazeMan: 11:25am On Sep 20, 2023 |
garfield1: It is not.he wanted tinubu admission records and records from Daley college.it is actually a loss.eveb the transcript,he didn't get Daley College will answer to the courts very soon too. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 10:42am On Sep 20, 2023 |
tinsel: You are still not answering my question. Which one of those documents are blurred? Forms EC8 from IREV or all every order documents INEC certified? I will still tell you for the thousandth time... The CTCs of the so-called original top-copies of the EC8As were blurred. So, how come? (INEC Counsel blamed the toner in the photocopying-machine) |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 10:35am On Sep 20, 2023 |
tinsel: INEC certified the blurred copies that it was printed from the IREV. But is the IREV the basis for declaring results? There are original copies and there are agent copies. INEC tabulate their results from the hard copies. Check the list of evidence/exhibit abbegg.. Stop being ignorant here abbegg.. It's not only the IREV-Printed CTC results that the INEC produced. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 10:31am On Sep 20, 2023 |
Spirit04: so inec should bring 18000 results to court for the judges to sort? It is not the duty of the Judges to sort.. It is the duty of the LP Counsel.. Did LP demand that INEC produce those results? YESS.. LP demanded for such.. BUT THE INEC DIDN'T BRING “ALL” THE DEMANDED DOCUMENTS TO THE COURT.. AND OUT OF THE ONES THEY BROUGHT,, THOUSANDS WERE BLURRED. If they brought it,, the LP Counsel would have sorted them and analyze them as quickly as possible, and bring out more facts from them. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:44am On Sep 20, 2023 |
Mohamid: LP said they win and they will prove it, that means they have done all their calculation and everything with evidence to prove. BLURRED RESULTS ARE PRINT OUT COPIES FROM IREV LP AGENTS SUPPOSED HAVE EACH POLLING UNITS RESULTS THAT GOOD. When LP applied for Investigations of the BVAS,, INEC refused, and the Tribunal accepted such refusal.. The proof of Peter-Obi’s victory is inside the BVAS-Machines.. But the Tribunal truncated the BVAS investigations by themselves..So,, Peter still had something else to prove. And that is,, that the whole election is a shammm.!! |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:29am On Sep 20, 2023 |
tinsel: Those copies were from IREV because the labor party requested them as they wanted to prove that the nonuse of IReV is against the electoral act. LP requested for a lot of things.. Including the original polling unit results; and collated results in all the Wards, LGAs, States, and The final collation.. That was why the INEC started telling them to apply to all the States.. WHICH THEY DID.. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:22am On Sep 20, 2023 |
garfield1: That is not what happened in court sir.prof ofoedu the statistician clearly said he only analyzed the irev copies alone and never saw other copies.nothibg different was in obi final address.obi is bound by this submission garfield1: Not true,the original were never blurred just the photocopy from irev In the Reply of LP.. The counsel said that the Blurred Copies which was given to the APC witness is the supposed CTCs of top-copies of EC8As. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:18am On Sep 20, 2023 |
tinsel: Please, the burred copies are only from the 18000 printed from IREV which attribute to wrong snapping at the polling booths. We still have originals and party agents also should have their own copies. The truth of the matter is labor party did not have agents. The truth of the matter is that INEC supplied Blurred Copies as the CTCs of the Original Top-Copies of the Results.. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:17am On Sep 20, 2023 |
garfield1: You will prove it by comparing it with other units and providing the disputed polling units Comparing what and what?? The LP wanted to compare the Polling-units that were seen as Blurred inside the IREV, with whatever the INEC would supply at the court as the CTCS OF THE ORIGINAL RESULTS.. But ALASS..!! Those same supposedly blurred polling-units in the IREV are not also available in the so-called pile of CTCs of Original Results.. And then,, there are blurred and blank results in the original results, running in thousands. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:12am On Sep 20, 2023 |
garfield1: The most relevant is the top copy or original copies from the polling unit and evidences clearly adduced by obi CTCs of those original Top-copies were brought to the court.. Did you agree on this too?? |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:09am On Sep 20, 2023 |
tinsel: We are talking about where the blurred 18000 plus labour party presented to the court? Where are they from? From IREV or not? 18,088 were seen and tabulated from the IREV by the professor.. INEC then brought CTCs of Original EC8As, EC8Bs, EC8Cs, EC8Ds to the court.. And it happened that the so-called original EC8As had numerous blurred copies too. Running into thousands too |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:07am On Sep 20, 2023 |
garfield1: It is irrelevant. I am not really understanding you. What exactly is irrelevant?? CTCs.?? CTCs of documents are irrelevant?? I don't get it. |
Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:06am On Sep 20, 2023 |
waice6571: You are expecting EYE-NECK to bring evidence against herself?.... Right?
You go explain tire.... No exhibit; No case!
The plaintiff will have to prove his claims, fact and figures beyond every reasonable doubt in the court of law. There're no two ways about it. I want you to find the Electoral-Act-2022... Go to 1st-Schedule; Paragraph-12(2) and read it.. After that,, Then read: 1st-Schedule; Paragraph-44...
It's like you think it is only the Petitioner who has to prove things beyond every reasonable doubts??
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE OF 18,088 BLURRED CTCS OF THE ORIGINAL RESULTS HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED.
It is now the turn of INEC to prove it otherwise beyond all reasonable doubts.. |
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Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:57am On Sep 20, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: Burden Of Proof Of The 18,088 Blurred Polling Unit Results by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:55am On Sep 20, 2023 |
garfield1: The apex court in oyetola vs adeleke established the supremacy of the inec copies So,, why did the APC-Witness after he was shown the CTCs (ie, the photocopies) of the original EC8A-results,, he said that he couldn't see anything on the copies?? (Which even made INEC Counsels to blame the photocopying-machine,,, and wrote in their response that the toner in the photocopying-machine might had finished during the photocopying, which made the copies to be blurred. -- or didn't you read that part.??) |