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Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:16am On Mar 09, 2023
Nlfpmod
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:16am On Mar 09, 2023
Lalasticlala, Seun
Politics › Re: Buhari: My Administration Set Forward Credible, Transparent And Fair Elections by BluntCrazeMan:
Liar..


The truth is,, Buhari doesn't know a lot of things that are happening inside his administration..

His aides and advisers are feeding him with incomplete and false information on a daily basis.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Hosts Dinner For Newly Elected Labour Party National Assembly Members by BluntCrazeMan: 5:36am On Mar 09, 2023
Kukutenla:
Obi, Buhari of the south.
If he can leverage on this popularity, he can com back strongly in the next four years
He is coming back soon.

Four years too far
Politics › Re: Rescheduling Of Governorship & State HOA Elections: INEC Press Release by BluntCrazeMan: 5:34am On Mar 09, 2023
Racoon:
“It's not what we do once in a while that shapes our lives. It's what we do consistently.” ― Anthony Robbins

Reactions:
Like I used to say all the while..


There is Collation System.

And there is IREV Portal..

And two of them are not the same.
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 2:34am On Mar 09, 2023
ACCORDING TO THE ELECTORAL ACT 2022; THE “ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION” OF RESULTS “DIRECTLY FROM THE POLLING-UNITS” IS ACTUALLY MANDATORY, AND NOT OPTIONAL.
From the previous thread, (What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.??),, a lot of people argued about a lot of things.

Some people said that the “Transmission” as mentioned inside the Electoral Act could means “Manual” transmission, and not Electronic Transmission, since the word “Electronic Transmission” was not specifically mentioned.

Others argued that: even though the Electronic Transmission method was implied or intended in the Electoral Act, that the Electoral Act DIDN'T make it MANDATORY, unlike the way it made “Electronic Accreditation” Mandatory.


These are very good arguments indeed.

I am going to throw more lights on these two strong arguments with references from the Electoral Act Alone.

(Meanwhile “Electronic Transmission” is totally different from the IREV-Portal..

**I will NOT bring in quotes from the INEC’s “Guidelines And Procedures”.)


I can agree that the Two Words “Electronic Transmission” were not phrased together anywhere inside the Electoral Act.
But then, it was definitely implied.
And if it was implied, then it means that: it was the intention of the Act that the Transmission mode should be Electronic Transmission, and not Manual.

And again, if the Electoral Act specified the “Uses” of the directly transmitted results, and even gave a penalty (to all the would-be collation officers and the returning officers) for not making proper “Use” of the directly transmitted results, then it means that it was also the intention of the Act for the “use” of the directly transmitted results to be Mandatory.


Let us take another look at the Section-64 of the Electoral Act,, starting from Sub-Section-(4)

Section-64:
Sub-Section-(4) A collation officer or returning officer at an election SHALL collate and announce the result of an election, subject to his or her verification and confirmation that the—

(a) number of accredited voters stated on the collated result are correct and CONSISTENT with the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 47(2) of this Act; and

(b) the votes stated on the collated result are correct and CONSISTENT with the “votes or results” recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60(4) of this Act.
Note the word SHALL..
The word SHALL is never used whenever something is supposed to be OPTIONAL..
And again,, this particular Sub-Section-(4) made it mandatory (that is, with the word SHALL) that a collation officer or a returning officer must “VERIFY” his own collated results and make that they are CONSISTENT with the directly transmitted results.

This means that, it is MANDATORY for there to be an already transmitted and collated result, which every Collation Officer and/or every returning officer MUST use to verify his own collations at every collation level..

In layman’s language, this Sub-Section-(4) is mandating INEC to transmit results directly from the various polling-units -- (without passing through the various collation officers, and in a very quick manner) -- to a separate aggregation and collation centre; and from where these separately collated results MUST be made QUICKLY AVAILABLE to the various collation officers for them to be used for verification purposes at all the collation levels.

That means, INEC is free to do the “direct transmission” in any way it so desires, as far as the requirements for “Verification” as described in the Electoral Act is properly met.
IT ALSO MEANS THAT THIS VERY PROCEDURE MUST NOT BE DISCARDED.


Thus, if the INEC employed the use of manual transmission for the procedure described by the Electoral Act, it cannot achieve this desired fastness (or quickness).


Sub-Section-(5) Subject to subsection (1), a collation officer or returning officer shall use the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 47(2) of this Act and the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60(4) of this Act to collate and announce the result of an election if a collated result at his or a lower level of collation is not correct.
This Sub-Section-(5) is summarily saying that a returning officer (or a higher collation officer) can overrule the results of lower-level collation officers based on those directly transmitted results.

Sub-Section-(6) Where during collation of results, there is a dispute regarding a collated result or the result of an election from any polling unit, the collation officer or returning officer shall use the following to determine the correctness of the disputed result—

(a) the original of the disputed collated result for each polling unit where the election is disputed;

(b) the smart card reader or other technology device used for accreditation of voters in each polling unit where the election is disputed for the purpose of obtaining accreditation data directly from the smart card reader or technology device;

(c) data of accreditation recorded and transmitted directly from each polling unit where the election is disputed, as prescribed under section 47(2) of this Act; and

(d) the votes and result of the election recorded and transmitted directly from each polling unit where the election is disputed, as prescribed under section 60(4) of this Act.
This Sub-Section-(6) made it very clear that apart from the MANDATORY VERIFICATION Purposes, the directly transmitted results are also supposed to be used in settling disputes that may arise at collation centers.

Sub-Section-(7) If the disputed result under sub-section-(6) were otherwise found not to be correct, the collation officer or returning officer shall re-collate and announce a new result using the information in sub-section-(6) (a)-(d).
Sub-Section-(8.) Where the dispute under sub-section-(6) arose at the level of collation and the returning officer has satisfied the provision of sub-section-(6) (a)-(d), the returning officer shall accordingly declare the winner of the election.
Sub-Section-(9) A returning officer or collation officer, as the case may be, commits an offence if he or she intentionally collates or announces A FALSE RESULT and is liable on conviction to a fine of N5,000,000 or imprisonment for a term of at least three years or both.
This Sub-Section-(9) made it an offence for any collation officer or returning officer to collate and announce a “FALSE RESULT”.

And What Is the “False Result” here supposed to mean.??

a.) Any collated result that was not compulsorily verified as mandated in sub-section-(4) is regarded as a False Result.

b.) For any disputed collated-result which was not settled according to the procedures outlined in Sub-Sections (6, 7, & 8.), then, if the collation officer or returning officer went ahead and announce such a result, it is regarded as a False Result.


AS ALWAYS,, WE WILL STILL WAIT FOR THE JUDGEMENT OF THE SUPREME-COURT JUDGES..

THEY ARE STILL THE FINAL BUS-STOP TO ALL THESE ARGUMENTS..
Politics › Re: 2023: Electronic Transmission Of Results Not Mandatory – APC Replies Atiku, Obi by BluntCrazeMan: 2:26am On Mar 09, 2023
I have argued this a lot of times...
Crime › Re: Cattle Herders Gang-Rape 8-Months Pregnant Woman In Abuja by BluntCrazeMan: 9:31pm On Mar 08, 2023
They have started again.??

This was the exact reason why.....
Politics › Re: NNPP Protests Against Governor Ganduje's Pardon Of 12 Death Row Inmates by BluntCrazeMan: 4:09pm On Mar 08, 2023
Habbaaaaa
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri: Peter Obi Was The Main Rigger Of 2023 Election Not Tinubu by BluntCrazeMan:
Peterobiisathie:
https://mobile.twitter.com/renoomokri/status/1633452758274637825


https://mobile.twitter.com/renoomokri/status/1633456293099761666
Peter went to court to establish his claims..

Stupid Reno dey for ONLINE dey type nonsense wey him no fit swear for sef,, not to talk of substantiating..
Politics › Re: "God Forbid" – Aisha Yesufu Disagrees With Peter Obi Over Governorship Candidate by BluntCrazeMan: 3:53pm On Mar 08, 2023
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 3:50pm On Mar 08, 2023
Idiotseverywher:
. Please can you actually tell us what you are trying to defend and why?
Let us just assume that he was not involved in electoral fraud and that he is not in support of the electoral fraud.

Ok..
So, he is trying to defend the fact that the Nigerian Justice system is still very very weak.
And that, no matter the electoral fraud committed, that those people involved will still scale the Nigerian Judiciary, and come out very victorious.
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 3:45pm On Mar 08, 2023
Jokay07:
Please bear with me, I am a bit occupied. I will reply ASAP
No wahalla..
Thanks
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 12:47pm On Mar 08, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
One thing the Electoral Act made very clear (And Factual) is that: “The Directly Transmitted Results From the Polling-units” SHALL be used for the “Verification” of the “Collated Results”...
And also, that the Collated Results must be “CONSISTENT WITH” the “Directly Transmitted Results From the Polling-Units”..

So, are we together on the above??
(At least from there, we can continue further)



Because, that is what I’ve been trying to break down in the whole of my analysis..
@Jokay07
Please, are you still interested in telling me more about the true meaning of “Direct/Directly” as it is contained inside the Electoral Act.??


Thanks.
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 12:28pm On Mar 08, 2023
Nlfpmod
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 12:28pm On Mar 08, 2023
Lalasticlala, Seun
Travel › Re: Muhammadu Buhari International Airport In Ebonyi Constructed By Governor Umahi by BluntCrazeMan: 9:50am On Mar 08, 2023
Ok ooo.



NEXT GOVERNOR IS DEFINITELY ABANDONING THIS MIGHTY PROJECT..


SORRY UMAHI..
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:13am On Mar 08, 2023
garfield1:
Unfortunately, you can't prove anything
Ok naa.
You still cannot say what comes out of this case.
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:12am On Mar 08, 2023
fergie001:
If there is anything like over-overwhelming the better.

The SC lead judgement in Atiku Abubakar v Yaradua:

The lead judgement by Niki Tobi JSC (of Blessed memory)

Petitioner who contests the legality or lawfulness of votes cast in an election and subsequent result must tender in evidence all the necessary documents by way of forms and other documents used at the election. He should not stop there. He must call witnesses to testify that the illegality or unlawfulness substantially affected the result of the election. The documents are among those in which the results of the votes are recorded. The witnesses are those who saw it all on the day of election not those who picked the evidence from eye-witness. No. They must be eye witness too. Both forms and witnesses are vital for contesting the legality or lawfulness of votes and the subsequent result of the election. One cannot be substitute for the other. It is not enough for the Petitioner to tender only the documents. It is incumbent on him to lead evidence in respect of the wrong doings or irregularities both in the conduct of the election and recording of the votes; wrong doings and irregularities, which affected substantially the result of the election.”
Thanks so much for this..
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:59am On Mar 08, 2023
garfield1:
That is why you need to be in collation centres
Ok.
That they ALL did it that way, it didn't mean that they did the right thing though..
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 7:45am On Mar 08, 2023
garfield1:
You still dont get it Mr.you have never obviously never been in an election or collation centre. the collation officers do not check results on the inec back end as you are thinking or log into any inec server. they simply compare manually prepared results and results captured on the bvas afterall what was transmitted is still in the bvas.they dont mechanically follow it as you think.it is not black and white but done flexibly.it is only the ratech and in some cases the spos that make sure results have actually been sent not the collation officers Mr.collatuin officers only take records of what you have on ec8a and your bvas and see check for discrepancies.
I guess you are aware of what you just confirmed.??
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:58am On Mar 08, 2023
Lalasticlala, Seun, Nlfpmod
Politics › Re: Imo REC Can’t Conduct Credible Assembly Poll – PDP by BluntCrazeMan: 5:57am On Mar 08, 2023
Ok
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op):
Genius100:
Lol.. so how do you punish technology? I believe someone has already told you about the term “substantial noncompliance”.

Besides that, let’s assume you are right. If the presidential election is deemed not to have followed the electoral act, then so will the house and senate elections. In what universe do you see the Judges cancelling all elections because of something that can’t be deemed to be “substantial noncompliance”.
Technology didn't create itself.
And technology doesn't use itself.
Someone is still going to be involved.


I get your drift.
You're trying to tell me that “This is Nigeria”??

How big is the “gross misconduct” evidence supposed to be before it can be used to establish a case of corruption.??

If corruption or non-compliance is “substantially” established in all the elections that were held on that day,, then, none of the elections should be spared.
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op):
Genius100:
Who is supposed to enter the results into the CSRVS system from the polling unit? As far as I know, the polling unit workers are only supposed to take a picture of the result sheet, and the image (not numbers) gets uploaded into iREV. So how does the result get inputted into CSRVS system?
For the purpose of the “Electronic Transmission” to the Collation System, The Presiding Officers -- while still at the venue of the election -- are supposed to key-in the figures scored by the parties into the Electronic Transmission App, and then send.

Then they should also upload the photos of the result-sheets o their polling-units to the IREV..
(This was actually supposed to be another weakness to the whole Electronic Transmission System, since human beings are involved again in inputting the data -- but the fact remains that, this procedure was totally avoided in the first place).
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:31am On Mar 08, 2023
0monnak0da:
16th wonder because there are potentially 2 appeals and the best I see them getting is a cancellation and ordering a rerun . Who will be in charge of that rerun and what is to stop the same thing happening again?

We need to look at the system so that elections are concluded earlier and no one is sworn in until cases resolved.
Honestly,, this is just another issue..
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:18am On Mar 08, 2023
garfield1:
Apart from that,there are two mode of transmission,online and offline.if they couldn't transmit it due to network,they will transmit it on offline mode thereby satisfying the requirement of transmission. it would show sent or pending which takes it out of their hands
In order to satisfy the requirements, no collation officer can announce anything until he had “verified” that what he collated is consistent with what was “transmitted”...

So, that they “sent” it, but it didn't “transmit”, then they have not satisfied the requirements yet.

The collation officers must wait for the “Directly Transmitted Results” to be ready-for-use, so that they can verify their collations, and thus, satisfying the requirements.
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:13am On Mar 08, 2023
Genius100:
Lol. They attempted to transmit but it didn't work. This argument is really going nowhere..
Now we are talking..


The Electoral Act didn't give room for unforseen circumstances..

It's either the provisions of the Act are abided by., Or else there are penalties.
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:08am On Mar 08, 2023
garfield1:
And it must be so overwhelming that it can change the final outcome or course of the election.it must affect the margin bw tinubu and atiku at least
In trying to establish a case of “Electoral Fraud” and “Electoral Malpractice”, must my evidence also be “Overwhelming”??

(Fergie001, Litigator.. Please and help out here abbegg)
Politics › Re: Lagos Government Releases Impounded Vehicles To Their Owners by BluntCrazeMan: 1:02am On Mar 08, 2023
After people had cursed you the other time..


Na Waa
Politics › Re: Verification Of Results Using “Directly Transmitted Results” Is Highly Mandatory by BluntCrazeMan(op): 12:52am On Mar 08, 2023
fergie001:
Only the drafters of the Constitution cam say so.



What the bolded simply states is that the FCT is not a State (it is distinct), even though it should be treated as if it was a State. (Simile "as" -emphasis mine). Whilst the States enjoy Executive powers through their Govs, legislative powers through their SHAs, the FCT is led by the NA and the executive powers vested in the President.

The Constitution will have been using 37 States if the FCT wasn't meant to be distinguishable.

However, the "in" you brought in there I am sure is what Agim will use in dismissing the case.😁
Even though the FCT is not a state, but the Constitution needed to bundle it together with the other states without separating it, then it would have said “The 37 Sub-National Units”..

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