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SkinnyDude:
how? that's what am using.

never mind that guy, he has nothing to say. Am using it too

I rather keep quiet to suspend war of tongue

A man is eating flies people turn against him

truthmans2012:
Which word of God did they manipulate? The same words allaah recommended for Muhammad?

Allah told Muhammad to consult the Jews and the Christians if he was in doubt of the revelations he was receiving:

(Quran 10:94).
And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

If the Scripture that was before Muhammad was manipulated, why did allaah recommend it to Muhammad?

If you need Manipulation verses from the Bible I can show and you too will laugh. we are having chill wealthier. I want drink a cup of tea, please join me brother.

truthmans2012:
Which word of God did they manipulate? The same words allaah recommended for Muhammad?

Allah told Muhammad to consult the Jews and the Christians if he was in doubt of the revelations he was receiving:

(Quran 10:94).
And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

If the Scripture that was before Muhammad was manipulated, why did allaah recommend it to Muhammad?

because there are some fact which can't be changed. Like Oneness of God Mark 12:34, Women should keep silent 1Corinthians 14:34, which Muslims follow , cover your head Like Virgin Mary 1chorinthians 11 vs 5-6, Ablution Exodus 40 verse 30-32. Muslim's way of praying Nehemiah 8:4-6. lastly God said we should Believe In all His books. please check it brother God bless u.

truthmans2012:
You sound like one "honeyoiler". I have the feeling you are the one.

You cannot understand Paul's statements because you don't have his Spirit. Despite muslims accusations of Paul, your allaah didn't find any fault in him. Paul had written all he wrote before Muhammad came and yet his allaah didn't mention Paul or any of the apostles having done anything evil. Do muslims have more knowledge than their allaah?

you are good brother! Bible said there is no scripture that private interpretation. read 2 Petter 1:20 . thanks. Quran talked about those who manipulated the words of God but don't mention any name.

true2god:
I'm sorry if I make a derogatory remarks. Just that your fellow Muslims will say we do not understand the Quran in proper context except we read the tasfirs of great Islamic scholars of which ibn kathir is one of them.

Ibn Kathir, in his own writings, said Muslims must go to hell but the pious ones will be saved from hell later by allahh. Why Muslims need to enter hell in the first place? This is my concern.

first of all, you shouldn't follow any scholars lecture as we all know that some may make mistakes that can mislead people, they are human being like us. yes it is possible for some Muslims to enter hell before paradise, we have "hasiabu l Arof" meaning those Muslims Fulfill every pillars of Islam e.g, but they commit some bad deed. like adultery, fornication, stealing and all that without seeking for forgiveness or desist from their bad altitude. they will firstly enter hell before paradise. Mind you! Am not against Jesus because, Jesus is a Prophet of God and I believe in all prophets. if you properly follow only the words of mosses and Jesus, you will be properly guided to the right part. but those apostles, introduced their own activities in to the Bible.
look at what Paul said in the Bible, On Hebrew 6:1 let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith towards God.

truthmans2012:
Is allaah deceiving you when he decreed all of you are going to hell?, Is he not saying the truth?

Why are muslims going to hell first since many of God's people went to heaven straight?

I tell you the truth: allaah is Satan who wants to take you to hell.

MATTHEW 7:21-23.
21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but He that doeth the will of my Father which is in Heaven. I chose God in Arabic Allah. you better follow God who sent Jesus, God is one , Jesus has told u several times but you prefer Paul. I thank God for offering me best religion which is Islam.

oaroloye:
[color=#ffffff].[/color] 1^st TIMOTHY 2:12.

12. But I suffer not a woman to teach,
nor to usurp authority over the man,
but to be in silence.

THE PHARISEES WERE SO ARROGANT, THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO MAKE UP COMMANDMENTS THAT DID NOT EXIST.

[color=#ffffff].[/color] MATTHEW 15:1-3.

THEN came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
2. “Why do thy Disciples transgress the Tradition of the Elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.”
3. But he answered and said unto them,
“Why do ye also Transgress the Commandment of God by your Tradition?”

PAUL DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FORBID WOMEN TO SPEAK IN CHURCH.

[See my Blogs exposing Paul for the False Apostle and False Christian that he was:

PAUL, THE FALSE APOSTLE.

PAUL, THE FALSE CHRISTIAN. .]

It is unfortunate that Sister Eucharia does not preach the True Gospel- without knowing anything about her Doctrine, her obesity tells me everything I need to know-

[color=#ffffff].[/color] PROVERBS 30:5-9.

5. Every Word of God is Pure:
He is a Shield unto them that put their trust in Him.
6. Add thou not unto His Words,
lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
7. Two things have I required of Thee;
deny me them not before I die:
8. "Remove far from me vanity and lies:
give me neither poverty nor riches;
feed me with food convenient for me:
9. "Lest I be full, and deny thee,
and say,

"WHO IS THE LORD?"
or lest I be poor, and steal,
and take The Name of my God in vain."

OBESITY LIMITS SPIRITUALITY.

[color=#ffffff].[/color] MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do; but do not ye after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master, even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land to make one proselyte,
and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell than yourselves."

ALSO, THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR CLERGY IN REAL CHRISTIANITY.

The Early Church called the Disciples "APOSTLES," and gave them POWER OF LIFE AND DEATH over them.

They furthermore sprouted USELESS "ELDERS," who could do nothing but stand by, when STEPNEN was STONED.

yes! good of you brother

true2god:
Do you mean the greatest Islamic 'scholar', ibn Kathir, is an American agent? For your information, ibn kathir died hundreds of years before a nation called the US existed. Don't be an ignorant Muslim.

yes I can be ignorant because I only read Quran and follow Quran wish not someone's lecture. nothing to worried by that because you are deceived by Paul in the Bible and his trick

do you mean this verse "Joel 2:28 support women to speak in church? this is not an evidence at all, give me where Bible states that women are freeing to speak in church.

asuustrike2009:
What did Joel 2:28 says?

do you mean this verse support women to speak in church? this is not evidence at all, give Mr where Bible states that women are freeing to speak in church.

O' yes Cup of Tea! Anyone who wins the war should me.

Lets read our Bible very well! It is wrong for women to speak in church. hope she won't betrays Bible .

truthmans2012:
I don't have your time, your mind is made up for Satan. Do you know better than the quran that clearly states muslims are going to hellfire? Do you know more than those islamic scholars who interpreted it rightly? If you bring out any quranic verse that states otherwise it means allaah is not reliable, contradicting himself.

True Christians don't have any problem, we are doubly protected. Jesus said we are going to heaven, allaah too confirms it (Quran 5:69 and 2:62).



[Quran 2:62] Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

Those scholars sponsored by US and Israel to blackmail Islam. I like to screenshot Bible verses for people to read. can you do dat from Quran for me to read so that I will be more relieved?

truthmans2012:
Is that the reason you want to go to hellfire? Your excuses are so flimsy and they are not enough for you to choose hellfire after your life here on earth. It is stated clearly in the writeup islamic scholars that muslims will go to hell as soon as they die. Do you know better than those scholars? Let me give you another quranic verse that confirms muslims going to hellfire:

[Quran 3:185] Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant.The life of this world is but comfort of illusion.
You see, all muslims will go to hell first before some will be removed on the Day of Resurrection. Allaah (Satan) already has informed you of your fate afterlife, it is up to you to choose hellfire or heaven.

Islam is not from God. Jesus said: "And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all NATIONS and then the end will come (Mat.24:14).

It is the Gospel God expects to be preached till the end of the world, it shows Satan sent islam.

Jesus said "In my Father's house are many mansions, I'm going to prepare a place for you so that where am you will be also (Mat. 14:2-3). Jesus is in heaven and wants you to be with him. It is only Satan that will promise his own to go to hellfire as allaah did.

Trinity

It was Jesus Himself who taught us Trinity:

Mat. 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

True Christians have double confirmation: Jesus said we are going to heaven, allaah also confirmed it:

[Quran 2:62] Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

You left a safe place to a dangerous place, how reasonable?

What u quoted from Quran doesn't refers to only Muslim. you need more knowledge of Quran. if Quran says you, it means all human being, and everyone will get his /her punishment according to their bad deed. some will spend lil time in hell before entering paradise depending on their sin. Trinity wasn't disclosed when Jesus was on earth, do you agree? read Mattew from 28:18-19 in the heaven, why not on earth? it was a planed by Jesus followers and I can give plenty of chapters where is only one God been mentioned in the bible. what happened to the rest point I have mentioned? I like people with good evidence Brother. Don't follow someone's lecture, let's use Quran and Bible as our references. Many people bring their own idea which is wrong as Jesus against it.

he should be given plenty of madmen/women to heal.. Babalawos heal mad people without making noise.

truthmans2012:
No muslim regret being a muslim in this world. Islamic god is the prince of this world. He offers you so much enjoyments in the world but decree hellfire for you.

These are the interpretations of islamic scholars about muslims' fate in HELLFIRE at afterlife. If you cannot read all make sure you read the red statements:

Al-Jalalayn’s Tafsir on Surah 19:71(“Not one of you but will pass through it (hellfire): this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished”), gives the following clarification:
“Not one” means that there will be none. “Of you” means all people. “But will pass through” means the entry into hell. “A decree which must be accomplished” means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: www.al-islam.com.

Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71:
Surah 19:71: “Not one of you but will pass through it (hellfire): this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.”
Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, “Everyone shall enter it (hellfire).” (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic)


Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71
Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq regarding the meaning of, ‘Entering (Al-wurood).’ He said it meant ‘Entering (Hell),’ but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) “‘Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),’ and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!’ Did they enter or not? As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don’t see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning).” Nafi then laughed.

Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell’s roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah’s verse (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,’ and also the verse (Surah 19:86) ‘And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)’? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) ‘Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it’? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, ‘O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.’" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia.


In summary, every muslims will go into hell as soon as he/she dies. What a pity. Make sure you don't die a Muslim. Give your life to Jesus.

screenshot it out from Quran and let me read it, I like Jesus as the Prophet of God but I hate Trinity. Can you just write it out where Jesus himself stated that there will be Trinity of God? read Mark 12:28-30. Jesus himself said there is only one God. what church Jesus attended? Jesus warned you not let your women speake in church. read 1Corinthians 14:34.. You Christan betrayed Jesus following man made law after Jesus went to heaven. Muslims Believe that there is only one God, and also let their females keep silent in mosque. more also Muslim females cover their head like virgin marry. Islam is one but Christan are many, Catholic bow down for Virgin Mary, Anglicans hate them. there is no mosque I cant pray but Christan is so selective. Muslim face the same direction through out the world but Christan has no direction and also Muslims pray with one language which is Arabic , as it is confirmed by the Bible Zephaniah 3:9. .. read where I quoted from the Bible. drop hatred and find real religion, those pastors are working for the money, they are deceiving you. Read your Bible very well and find the truth. if you want how Moses perform Abolition with Aron like Muslim from the Bible I will show you. read Nehemiah 8:4-6 is the same as Muslims pray. Join before it is too late. if you need more light from your Bible about Islam I will show you but you have to firstly drop hatred and ask for reality. thank you brother

truthmans2012:
allaah is not "God", he is "god" says the quran.

Click here:

www.nairaland.com/3252134/why-does-quran-refer-allah

But Allah Is better than your god in the Bible that cast fire like dragon. Read 2 Samuel 22:7-9 . Thank God I joined Islam without regret.

Kockane:
Eyin eeyan mi, shey e notice bi oruko awon omo Igbo shey fill list yen. Smh. Anytime ti e ba ti gbo drug dealer, omo Igbo noni. Ise won niyen, awon abani loruko je. Ki a shaa ma gbadura fun won so that won ma change.

God bless Nigeria.

Signed,
PRO, NCAN, South West chapter.

Ore! Oya MI lenu ooo, Won kan doju ti Nigeria.

truthmans2012:
Should there be any contradiction after allaah had boasted there is none? It shows he was not saying the truth.

The God of the Bible didn't speak and contradicted Himself. When the prophets said "Thus said the Lord", you can't find the statement changed or contradicted later. What you islamists call contradictions in the Bible are statements of various men or kings who spoke many years apart. You cannot credit that to Yahweh.

But allaah of the quran was just changing his revelations at any time he wanted to deceive the people. He said he was changing and replacing his revelations with what he called better ones (Quran 2:106). If allaah is truly the all-knowing, why would he say something today and change it tomorrow as if he was making mistakes?

Bible has Man made Law. Read Matthew 15:9 , it is stated therein that the worship of those who prefer to follow man made laws will not be accepted. I was Christan but thank God I joined Islam.

truthmans2012:
Should there be any contradiction after allaah had boasted there is none? It shows he was not saying the truth.

The God of the Bible didn't speak Bible are statements of various men or kings who spoke many contradicted Himself. When the prophets said "Thus said the Lord", you can't find the statement changed or contradicted later. What you islamists call contradictions in the Bible are statements of various men or kings who spoke many years apart. You cannot credit that to Yahweh.

But allaah of the quran was just changing his revelations at any time he wanted to deceive the people. He said he was changing and replacing his revelations with what he called better ones (Quran 2:106). If allaah is truly the all-knowing, why would he say something today and change it tomorrow as if he was making mistakes?

Bible are statements of various men or kings who spoke many years apart? you mean Bible has Man made Law. Read Matthew 15:9 , it is stated therein that the worship of those who prefer to follow man made laws will not be accepted. I was Christan but thank God I joined Islam.

truthmans2012:
If those clear contradictions are not contradictions to you, it is because you are not good at English.

Jesus said in John 14:27 "Peace I leave you

also in Mattew 10:34-37 " Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth, I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. if you need more ask brother

truthmans2012:
If those clear contradictions are not contradictions to you, it is because you are not good at English.

thank God not as bad as Bible's Contradictions

truthmans2012:
If those clear contradictions are not contradictions to you, it is because you are not good at English.

you didn't provide the answer for the Question I asked you . both points I quoted, tell me the differencce

truthmans2012:
See them here:

www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

these are not contractions, am expecting disagreement like the trumpet will not be blown from Quran. idea one or more are less concerned.
these two verses stated below, I need to know the differences Co's am not so good at English.For whom is salvation?
For all pious theists
Those who believe (in the
Qur'an), those who follow the
Jewish (scriptures), and the
Sabians and the Christians, - any
who believe in Allah and the
Last Day, and work
righteousness,- on them shall
be no fear, nor shall they
grieve.

Qur'an 5:69
For all pious theists
Verily! Those who believe and
those who are Jews and
Christians, and Sabians ,
whoever believes in Allah and
the Last Day and do righteous
good deeds shall have their
reward with their Lord, on
them shall be no fear, nor shall
they grieve.
Qur'an 2:62

annunaki2:
On the contrary there is no single shred of evidence that the quoran has any divine origin, it's at best a product of demonic possession and hallucinations of mohammed. Also stop this lie that you muslims love to peddle, science has never and can never authenticated the quoran as the quoran is full of too many lies, errors, contradictions, inconsistencies and outright rubbish.

Can you give at least 5 Contractions with evidence from Quran?

4evergod2:
Islam really is rooted in naturism. Allah is a product of the Venus goddess Athtar, and is the male counterpart to the earth goddess Allat. The Blackstone itself, the holiest idol in Islam, was originally a fertility symbol, being still place in a frame shaped in the form of a vulva.

If in doubt how sex craved these demons are just go to the source itself to see how much Islam is filled with instructions on weird sex:

2.1 Men can rape female slaves and captives
2.2 Men can rape female captives in front of their husbands
3 Al-‘Azl (coitus interruptus)
3.1 When having sex with captives, it’s better if you don’t pull out at the end
3.2 It’s okay to practice ‘azl when having sex with your slave-girl
.
.

5.1 Men can enter if they give Muhammad what is between their legs
5.2 Men are rewarded with undefiled virgins
5.3 Men will have 72 virgins each
5.4 But the number of virgins in paradise is limitless
5.5 The virgins will have firm breasts
5.6 And appetizing vaginas
5.7 Men will be given the sexual strength of 100 persons
5.8 A man’s penis will remain ‘ever-erect’
.
.

6 Muhammad
6.1 Has sex with 11 wives in 1 night
6.2 Was given the sexual power of 40 men
7 Aisha
7.1 Muhammad has sex with her aged only 9
7.2 Muhammad sucks her tongue
7.3 Muhammad surprises her
7.4 Muhammad fondles her
7.5 Muhammad ‘thighs’ her
.
.
9 Pedophilia
9.1 Is permitted by the Qur’an
9.2 Pre-pubescent widows
10 Miscellaneous
10.1 Companions of Muhammad masturbated during Jihad
10.2 Anal sex is forbidden
10.3 No prescribed punishment for zoophilia

So next time you hear Allahu Akbar, remember, they praise the sex god.

Give us an evidence brother or where all these can be found?

NiGeRianTr0ll:
This is why Islam needs to be banned, That Ideology overrides all logical and rational thoughts...Madam why don't you move your ass to Syria and fight in the war...Oh wait? You can't because you will need an helmet and you are only permitted to wear Hijab?

And why is her Hijab dirty?

Virgin Mary

Mr President! Come and search for it in Ondo State or Badagiri in Lagos State

Mr President! Come and search for it in Ondo State or Badagiri Lagos

Barigaboy:
Am a christian n I believe we are all serving thesame God. I don't no y when something like this comes up d muslims will shout n today d christians r complaining. We don't need to be divided. Christians r peaceful same as muslim. Being a Christian or Muslim is not what will b demanded on d judgement day but how good we have done on earth. Some babalawo r even more Holier than some of us fighting over religion. Let's do gud that's all. Being a muslim or christian never change us from being a human. U guys shud just stop.

Hoo! You still move me. good comment