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rottennaija:
At this point in time, I don't have any reason continue this talk with you. You didn't even ask for evidence to it, you called it a lie which means even if you see the evidence, it's a lie to you. Enjoy your comedy.

Yeah. They always perform "goodwill gestures" when they can't defend their position in the battle. Goodwill gesture in Russia is synonymous with Retreat, Runaway, Failure, Shameful defeat etc.

Very soon, they will start another goodwill gesture at Mariupol, Melitopol, maybe Crimea.

Just so you know, I totally agree with you

rottennaija:
See the bolded? Ru left Kiev because they were about to have a peace deal and the prerequisite for it was for them to show good faith and withdraw their troops. Immediately they did, Boris Johnson travel and convinced Zelensky not to sign the agreement. These were in the first 2 months of the war.

Get your fact right.

Dear Lord! This comedy never ends. Show me where you get this lie from. Ukraine pounded them hard. So they retreated. Russia will never relinquish a battle position when it gives it a leverage during negotiation or peace deals. Whoever told you this has no idea how such crisis work.

Tell me then, was it the same peace deal that caused the battle retreats in Kherson, Khakirv, Lyman etc?

The way I see it, you don't only need to get your facts right, get some logic.

BentizilL:
If wishes were horses

Yeah, if wishes were horse, putin would demilitarize Ukraine and install a new leader. Instead, he's getting his butts kicked all over the place.

The points in my earlier comment were not just wishes. These are going to be the direct aftermath of this war. What I did not add though;
@Ukraine will be a member of NATO alliance.
@There will be a huge American military base in Ukraine
@Highly likely a launchpad with a missile pointing at Moscow. (if Russia still exists, only about 20% chance of this miracle)

All putin's nightmares came to pass. His dreams failed!

Tiopii:
why are getting sad braah? Google it yourself EU plan for Ukraine rebuild. Ukraine would be a new market for the West/US and we all know they know how to do business. Th ese countries would invest in the Ukraine economy.


😂😂😂😂. You believe or not, it's happening

Well said. Russia has just placed Ukraine on a pedestal to a new Economic boom. After this war, Ukraine's economy will be substantially pumped by the west. The same countries and industries that built the Russian economy (now abandoned). Too many times the west had to rescue Russia. It'll just take only a couple of years, everything the orcs destroyed will be restored to a better position. When all is said and done, Russia just successfully created a very powerful enemy right at its border; powerful weapons, powerful economy (integrated with the EU), powerful allies. Russia is done! Anyway, there won't be "any Russia" in a few years. Only the fragments of the big old country. Just a basket of history.

JeffreyJunior:
Yea right.

Some see a 6 while others see a 9, it depends on the angle you look from.

However, she robbed Peter to pay Paul so the misdemeanor there nullifies every justification or act of kindness behind the gesture if there is any.

She is not for keeps, no.

she belongs to the streets!

mysticwarrior:
Because they have subjected innocent Ukrainians of Russian ethnicity to horror and marginalization for decades, and Putin is only liberating them and also protecting his territory from Western encroachment and possibly aggression.

Yes, he's liberating them by bombing their homes and businesses, raping their women and committing genocidal acts. Sending people to their graves is liberating? This is pure clowning.

Tiopii:
Have they not tried pounding Ukraine too? They tried only difference is Ukraine got Air defense systems from the West.

so please tell me what is restricting them in Ukraine?

Russia has nothing to pound Ukraine with. After the battle for Severodonestk, they lost all capacity to pound anything.

Watcharena:
I'm sure you did not ready through the reference I sent earlier , you can go and read it to know when Putin promised not to kill. Zelensky you will aso get to know when the Israeli official made known to the world. And regards to zelensky's speech it all defend on your interpretation but zelensky is not in Ukraine and is not going back any time soon

First, you dropped a screenshot, not w link. I'm not even sure you know how that works. In any case, from just the minimal information on the screenshot, I can spot the bs already. I know that story, I heard it a couple of times. I'm just surprised Russia is using it as an excuse right now. But hey, no act of weakness from the Kremlin is surprising anymore.

Zelenksy was on the road before the drone incidence and he'll definitely be back when his mission is done.. Definitely back with more armo packages for his forces. The propaganda machine can call it whatever they like, but the result of his tour will be terrifying for the Russians on the battle field. Being a Russian soldier is the worst thing the world at this moment.

Tiopii:
Russia is fighting against Ukraine and their parliament voted to enter war economy, sanctions are hitting hard. Russia doesn't have the economy for a more intensified war, and NATO just started arming Ukraine with the good stuffs not the better or best.

The Sapa that collapsed USSR will collapse Russia if they continue fighting

I think they've already reached the breaking point. Nothing can stop it. The US gave them a leeway last year but Mr vvp decided to take a double stand to show he's tough. Went ahead to annex Kherson, Zaporizhia, Donestk and Luhansk. Most suicidal move ever. How do you annex territories you don't even control? What a joke!

Remember the collapse of USSR proceeded the war in Afghanistan. A war they didn't even lose a third of the lost forces. They lost more forces, ammunition/military equipment in one year than in 10 years of afghan war.

The counter offensive is coming with Ukraine getting 98% of what it needs to serve the orcs. Russia is done!

pansophist:
Which death is more painful?

To just shoot you and end your existence instantly, or

to starve you for days, naked you, In a cold room, then cut off your finger nails, punch your teeth out, pour acid on your leg, put pepper for your eye, then watch you struggle.

Then your loved ones will come and treat you, give you food, meanwhile, I still keep repeating my method over and over again, killing you slowly, while also draining your loved ones of resources?

Then you can understand why Russia is not going completely beast mode.

Lies. Russia isn't a beast. We all thought they were, but it's a shame they aren't. They can't go beast mode because they don't have the resources or even the mental capacity. Everything they had is used up already. Yet, they achieved nothing. This your rant here is like a castrated man telling a woman what he's going to do to her in the bedroom.. From a brother to a brother, if you're impotent as man, stay off bedroom talks. One love, brother.

Masterviolence:
So i was banned twice because of my support for Russia on this thread, i could not believe it.

I've gone through all the rules and regulations of NL but found myself not guilty of any.

My question is: Is this Russo-phobia?

The Russians are the most Russo phobic human beings on the face of the earth. That's why they hate peace. Putin hates Russia more than everyone else. If he doesn't, he won't get into this dumb war where he's killing his "subjects" and sending hundreds of thousands out of the country. The most vibrant section of the Russian population is gone. We all love Russia, that's why we hate this war. We want to call them heroes, but no terrorist is a hero. The right word is "cowards". That big old country is gone. It'll never be the same after this war. It's gone the way of Soviet Union - collapse. It's a question of when or how soon. It all now lies in the Ukrainian's hands.

And oh, you're proly banned because you've been very rude to other members of this forum. I don't even know the rules, but all I need to be is civil, respectful and objective.

rottennaija:
And Ukraine will fall for thia trap again

Fall for what trap? The ukrainian IQ is 10X the Wagner orcs.

Hey Prigozhin, run for your life! The counter offensive is coming and it'll be brutal!

Watcharena:
Check Aljezeera to know when putting promised he will not kill zaalensky as seen in the first picture .

The second and 3rd pictures shows from his speech that zalensky is scared and helpless.

I urge you to always argue from position of knowledge

No bro. The only thing you have here is a head filled up with Russian propaganda and lies, which has deprived you of all sense of objectivity and sound reasoning.

If you can't see from your lame reference to an article dated 5th Feb 2023 that your point of argument is screwed, I now understand how and why you bought all the junkie propaganda.

Did it take almost a year for someone to make Russia promise not to kill Zelenksy? Which implies that Russia has been making attempts for over a year but couldn't do it. So they had to leverage on the so called Israeli official's plea? That is a comedy skit good only for Ticktok. That is exactly what the Kremlin does. They attempt a mission, fail miserably, then scramble around for excuses why they didn't ("couldn't" should be the right word). So, Israel is putting boundaries and calling out redlines on Russia? What a joke!

Talking about Zelensky being scared? That's a joke too. Zelensky has never been scared of Russia anytime. This guy is the definition of bravery. I won't even talk about how he has been visiting the frontlines with artillery shells raining around him, not how he handled the first day of inversion etc. This man is ready to slap Mr vvp across his face with no fear of any consequences and he would! Remember his own words : "putin is nothing".. And that's his true perception of the Russian leader.

Did you say Zelenksy is helpless with over 30 most powerful countries in the world openly supporting him while his adversary is getting weakened and lossing friends every day? This is so funny. Deductive reasoning is scarce

Tiopii:
All sentiments no logical reasoning. After admitting Ukraine became an independent state, you still expect them to be subversive to Russia's interest instead of their own national interest, you're a joker.

With your reasoning all the other powers, the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth, Ottoman empire can all lay claim to Ukraine, The Mongols ruled over Russia at some point for over 200years so it means in 2023 Mongols can lay claim to Russia too. you logic ain't stable or smart.

Russia invaded Moldova, Georgia was it because of the West too? Russia is a bully going after smaller and weaker nations. so Putin got emotional cos the Ukraine would rather be closer to the West than Russia, when closeness to the west is economic prosperity and guaranteed security. Most nations want relationship with the West why should Ukraine also want this? You expect an independent state to put Russia's interest ahead of their own? lol.

The part you said Ukraine got Soviet Tech is very funny tho, you think it was only the Russians population and economy that supported the Soviet Union? All the tech they got is cos it was due to them and not some Russia's benevolence even if they took all the best stuffs.


The West didn't infiltrate Ukraine, Ukraine like other states that are members of EU and NATO wanted what the west was offering. you won't at least want to compare the Russian economy with the West. Russia just pissed cos they got less to offer and everyone knows Ukraine would be better off with the West.

If Russia is as good as you tryna paint why does it invade it neighbors and why does it neighbors seeks closer economic ties and security guarantee from the West? if those nations were safe and prospering why would they want to join the West? you're just intensionally sentimental and it's sad.

Russia's naval.base wasn't threatened at any time, Russia just invaded cos they knew they were by far the stronger side, not any Ukraine were militarizing the area or blocked access to the base.

No one is tryna invade Russia, Russia just want Ukraine to be a vassal state totally dependent on it which no serious country would agree to. The same way Russia and other state emerged from the Soviet Union same way Ukraine emerged and they owe Russia nothing. no is tryna invade Russia same way no one is tryna invade the US or China. too expensive and deadly. There's no legal successor to the Soviet Union. while it is the biggest post Soviet union state, it isn't the Soviet Union.

Thank you. Happy to read from someone with a more objective reasoning. These boys here are just spewing useless propaganda. Russia is the evil state in this conflict from all dimensions. The good thing is, they are paying dearly for it. In all these lame history he struggled with, he forgot the fact that Kiev was the capital of Kievan Rus. When Kiev was a bubbling city, Mosco was all bush with no inhabitants. Yet, he calls Ukraine a sibling of Russia. No, Kiev was their mother!
Since independence, Moscow has been ruling Ukraine by proxy and exporting corruption to the country. As soon as the Ukrainians said no, the Kremlins pulled out guns and bombs!

Badassniggga:
lol believe me, Russia knows where the coordinates of Zelenskys palace and other buildings are. While Russians have been pounding Kiev with bombs since last year, they intentionally didn't touch those places and not because Russia didn't know where Zelensky lives.

RUSSIA have Intel about Zelenskys schedule and if indeed they wanted him dead he would've been 6ft underground since last year. But they left him to roam and spew rubbish about so as not to give too much relevance to some puppet.

Yeah. Actually, Russia knows how to capture Kiev but they didn't just want to. That's why they lost the battle for Kiev and Northern Ukraine after the AFU's counter attacks. They know how to hold on to Kharkiv region but couldn't, they ran away from snake Island as a goodwill gesture. They ran from Kherson because they know how to hold on to the city and fight for it but couldn't. They even know how to capture Vuhledar.. The list goes on and on. The nonsense never ends. Excuses upon excuses.

At this rate, the only thing Moscow knows how to do is making excuses for all their losses and battle retreats as they score a world record number of retreats in this war. Look, find some one lame to spew this propaganda on. I'd easily support Russia in this war but the level of atrocities is too much and God so kind they're paying for it.

Watcharena:
there was never an attempt by Russians to kill Zelensky, an Israeli official made this known to the world that putin has promised him repeatedly that he will not kill Zelensky.


And you said Zalensky is sipping his tea with no worries probably you did not listen to his last night's announcements

Exactly how the Russian propaganda works. They take something that is obviously of no effect and make it so relevant it begins to affect all the decisions they have no capacity to make. Again, lame. Tell me exactly when the Israeli official asked putin not to go after Zelensky and everyone will see how lame this argument is. So, you're telling the Russians actually wanted to kill Zelensky but Israel asked them not to do it. So they stopped.
This sounds like kids playing in a garden.

I watch Zelensky's address every night. Tell me what's in it that'd make him so scared he couldn't sip his tea and I'll tell you a whole lot of things you don't understand from it.

This is so funny. The Russians have been making countless assassination attempts on Zelensky with no success. I think the Kremlin is now the comedy of this decade with it's "Tsar for life" as the head comedian. When they had every tool at their disposal, they couldn't do it. Is it now that they have been militarily, diplomatically, politically and economically weakened they can? Don't forget the Russians gave the order to capture or kill Zelensky on the first day of inversion. They had no chance. Common guys! A drone attack on the Kremlins is a huge insult to the almighty Russia. How did they let a drone through their air defense systems? Oh the S300 and the almighty S-400s are now all dead? This is so lame
Zelensky must be laughing right now, sipping his tea at this comedy. Asking the AFU to load the HIMARS to serve the orcs a breakfast of some GIMLRS rockets this morning

Masterviolence:
I carefully select the words I use here.




Good luck trying to be a nit-picker, when there's nothing to nit-pick.

I'm 7 steps ahead of you in this game

Yeah. 7 steps ahead of me with lies. Cutting history where it suites the Russian narrative. Russia has been prosecuting this war (AKA special military operation) with so much lies. They aren't even ashamed to have struggled with Ukraine for over a year without any headway towards a strategic objective. Oh, I forgot, they don't even have an objective anymore.

The second most powerful military in the world is struggling to become the third most powerful military in Ukraine. Number one most powerful is the Armed Forces of Ukraine, second army is the Wagner PMC while the conventional Russian forces make the third position. Spitting some needless history how Russia was invaded via Ukraine in WWII knowing well that Russia was an ally of Hitler before he stung them from behind is laughable. It was the United States that came to the Russian rescue.

I've done too much to have dignified this nonsense with a response. I'm going to create my own thread to report this war and how poorly the Russians have been performing. I've always admired the Russians, but in this war, they're the aggressors. Killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians and being proud of it. Pounding cities to ground and killing its inhabitants then claim to be liberating the same people they're terrorizing and killing is laughable. It's beyond words the nature of atrocities.

Masterviolence:
Not having the same opinion as you has automatically made me a propagandist.

If you have nothing reasonable to say don't quote me.

you called my response "nothing", why then did you respond to it? Why would anyone respond to NOTHING? you keep feeding people with Russian lies.

frozen70:
During your mums time, women were more disciplined and submissive

Now I can't really tell what's happening and some men are not helping matters all in the name of my babe

Trust women they love it when they get a good opportunity to be pet

It's so annoying, my brother. Too many simps everywhere - making excuses for ill mannered women.

Masterviolence:
Coming to tell me i should read up is some peak level of sarcasm

If you're a good student of history there won't be any problem understanding what I'll write here.
Ukraine historically was never an independent state, it was huge land that has been contested, divided, and ruled by a variety of external powers for over 600 years, including the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Austrian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and the Tsardom of Russia.
But In the 17th century, Ukraine became part of the Russian Empire, after series of agreements between the powers at that time, including financial statements to claim ownership of kyiv and other parts Ukraine.

Ukraine became part of the Russian Empire in the 1680s (17th century as written above).


To make it brief, in 1991 after the dissolution of the Soviet union, Ukraine became an independent state for the first time in it existence. It shouldn't be easily forgotten that in Russia existence, every invasion has been through Ukraine.

So tell me why is Ukraine not behaving as a state that Russia has made it to be.
Ukraine cannot judge the leadership of the Russian federation because of a man named Joseph Stalin who is not even a Russian by a Georgian.
During the time of the Soviet union, there were more Ukrainian president than Russia's.
Ukraine as a state inherited most of the Soviet union possessions after Russia.
So tell me, was Russia really treating Ukraine bad.?

Is it Russia's fault that there were more pro-russian in the government of Ukraine? shouldn't this be as a result of there history and ethical relationship.

Did Russia invade Ukraine before the infiltration of the west in 2013?
Russia can simply not sit back to allow the west to use her sibling to invade him in the future that's you Russia invade Crimea in 2014, not because they want war, but because Russia owns a navy base in sevastopol which was supposed to be there until 2040 according to the agreements between the two countries.

Now tell me is Russia not in the right side of history? for her adversary to use her siblings against him?
For NATO that was created because of the Soviet union including for the detriment of Ukraine to suddenly want to side with NATO to destroy mother Russia when Russia has done nothing wrong to Ukraine, is something not suspicious?

And your last question.
If you understand how power dynamics works you'll know that those nukes belongs to Russia. And because they gave it up for peace doesn't guarantee that if Ukraine start becoming hostile to Russia, Russia should sit back and behave as if nothing is happening because a treaty was signed, and innocents are losing their lives.

Please know history before engaging me next time.
I don't have the energy to lecture anyone, the internet is there for a reason.

avid Russian propagandist spotted Their lies never end

Russia is fighting a lost war. They lost the war since April, 2022 and they know it. The question now is how many lives will be sacrificed on both sides before the war ends?

Never let a woman get away with nonsense. If it happens once, it'll surely happen again. Sooner or later, you'll find yourself cowering to everything she does. you're better off divorced than getting emasculated. That woman has a poisonous character and you need to detoxify her.

Sheistoopretty:
That's not for Nigerian men, Nigerian men can be Poverty-stricken and still giving birth to children like rabbits

Just take a look around u, isn't it poor men who are having majority of kids? If u had said foreign men, I will understand

Nigerian men are just Us*less.......all of them

These old abrasive unmarried women desperate for attention. Guys are you seeing this bitter woman here? Please have pity on her.

Why is everyone making it seem as if she was a dangerous person? I don't understand. She didn't even hide it from her Facebook profile.. The most public place in the universe. May her soul rest in peace

Why would anyone in his right sense trust Russia? At the beginning of the invasion, 1000 wagner mercenaries were tasked with "killing or capturing" Zelensky. They'd have had him executed if they can. Russia doesn't have what it takes to win this war. They've already failed in their strategic objective. Redefining the war goals time after time. Politically, diplomatically, economy, and militarily.. Putin has lost in all fronts!

she's older than me?? 😳😳😳

Sneakytoucher:
There is something called morals which has got nothing to do with religion. Remember that.

That is unphilosophical and self defeating. There is no MORAL without the MORAL GIVER. So, how do you come about morals without God?

@Op, I'm struggling so hard to not be hard on you. I think you're the one complicating your marriage at this moment. Something inside you knows it. We all know this is a usual thing (jf it had happened the other way round with a woman cheating her man out on a deal) . I've had a few of these. I easily talk it over or look away.. No act of dishonesty is good, but you need to know how to weigh the odds. Life isn't black and white. This is your husband. I thought you were going to say he was spending the money on other women. That'd make a different turn entirely.

Trust me, nobody wins In a divorce and the more vulnerable in this case is you.
Make a choice. Forgive him. Clean out your heart or be your children's father.

My take, if South West is yet to decide who to support or even come with a consensus for Tinubu, there is hope for Nigeria. If you kkow what I mean.

Using a nuke is suicidal. Russia has already lost this war. A nuke will cause them to lose even their closest allies like China and India with serous international deplomatic and economic consequences, risk getting nuked in response from NATO. The way this is going, we are witnessing the collapse of a superpower.