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pryme:
In the same paragraph you said "This is Democratic Socialism".
I didnt know that lack of discernment is now a super power Bernie has blessed his followers with.

Pls ask your Canadian doctors if there is no Health care Black market in Canada, why do they run to the US for emergency surgeries?
So you dont know there are ailments you dont get immediate healthcare attention in Canada? Do you even interact with Canadian residents?
Do you think America is one shiithole like Nigeria that will salivate when they hear about free stuff even when they dont know how the govt will get over $30 trillion for free healthcare in the next 10 years?
Did your crazy Bernie tell you how he was going to come up with that amount apart from
Raising Tax by more than 40%
Cutting Down Doctor's pay
Shutting Down Health Insurance Companies
Forcing Doctors to Work over time without pay
Forcing every Citizen to pay healthcare they dont need.


And what happens to the Doctors when you take away their incentives? do you think they will stay? you just have to look at the mass exodus of Nigerian Doctors. do you think you will have more doctors?

Even in a shiithole country like Nigeria we have what we call "Family Doctors" (you must be living in cave if you have never heard of one), how much more millionaires like Bernie in an upper-class country like the US? Your crazy Bernie wants to take away all those Doctors all in the name of Free Universal Healthcare.

I dont feel sorry for Bernie, I feel sorry for you, that even as a neutral you cant read between the lines, asking you to do your research will be more like giving you a life sentence.

Shift with your ignorance.

Democratic socialism is what they coined in usa to describe bernie Sanders's European style plan. It does not mean those countries are socialist.


I will not address the rest of your crap.

abduleez1:
Thank you ma GEE. Same was also said for Gadot and Jason Momoa even Michael Keaton.

I have to confess, I was very sceptical about Gadot for the wonder woman role.

garetz:
Tulsi Gabbard hasn't dropped out

Lol....what a crazy woman.

pryme:
Lol you are very very blind I mean horribly blind, am not surprised.
Do you know in Canada not every disease can be treated in the public hospitals? If the doctors carry out a test they will decide if you get treatment or not, you simply go with they say, you can't go to a private clinic to be properly treated because that will be illegal wouldn't it?
So cheap health care equates to proper health care coverage?
Really? How many European millionaire have used the public health care system for crucial surgeries?


As for your communist claims of countries like Denmark here is the Prime Minister of Denmark calling out crazy Bernie and his followers like you that are immune to facts.

"I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism," he said. "Therefore, I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy."

https://www.vox.com › denmar...
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Denmark's prime minister says Bernie Sanders is wrong to call his country ...

Turns out you know nothing.

It shows that you are a local champion that hasn't travelled far.


Please, tell me which illness cannot be treated by Canadian public healthcare system. You have read lies and propaganda from American sponsored news. I hope you know that there are many Nigerian doctors in Canada. Some of them are even on Nairaland. Please, let me shame you.


Secondly, I never that Denmark, Sweden and the UK are socialist. I clearly stated that they are capitalist economies with socialist policies-


Here is my quote again, as it seems that you never read:

Born2Freak:
Nigga, what Bernie sanders is asking for is what they have in Europe and Canada- a capitalist economy but with socialist policies. Government run free healthcare, government subsidized higer education etc. This is democratic socialism.


Please take a look at Denmark Sweden, Canada, UK

Look at the bold.


Say "NO" to ignorance.

basilico:
Simply beyond imagination that people here can suppprt socialism. Really reprehensible.
Indoctrination
Me thinks so. How many did totalitarian Stalin kill.. at home and Ukraine in orfer to break the peasants back.
How many did Mao Zedong kill.How many did Fidel Castro kill. And Cambodia. And vietnam. And nicaragua. and Venezuela.
For real socialism the powers that be must jave absolute powers and proletarians holloi poloi must have no say
Seems like people just go to school to not learn anything

There is a difference between socialism and communism.

One is an economic system while the other is a political system.

Most developed countries run a mixed economy. A capitalist system with socialist policies. For example look at UK and Denmark that have their government run healthcare system and government run schools despite being capitalist countries.



You have a problem with communism. That is where Stalin and Mao come in

pryme:
Honestly it's difficult to phantom how people that claim to be intelligent could support a socialist system or a Government run country.

Can you point out one country that has successful health care system that is run by the government?
Or anything for that matter?
You should find out what happened to the Soviet Union, Cuba and Venezuela and other countries that tried government run state.

Will you send your kids to public primary schools or private schools, if you choose private schools, then you are a hypocrite like Crazy Bernie, that is pushing for free stuff for all but made millions from his book sales but only donated less than 10% of his proceeds to charity.

I see that you suffer from the same cut of ignorance as losprince.

I just mentioned the UK as a country with socialized healthcare system but you and your fellow ignorant brother were not sensible enough to go and research about the uk.


Many of my friends and family go to public schools in the uk. That is both primary and secondary. Maybe you think it is like Nigeria where public education is dead.


The top 10 developed countries in the world all have socialist healthcare system where the government runs the healthcare system and covers all citizens for free.


Are you aware that the price of insulin in Canada is 10 times cheaper than that of USA? People in USA are dying because they are rationing insulin.

Nigga, what Bernie sanders is asking for is what they have in Europe and Canada- a capitalist economy but with socialist policies. Government run free healthcare, government subsidized higer education etc. This is democratic socialism.


Please take a look at Denmark Sweden, Canada, UK etc




Edit- there is a difference between socialism and communism. Socialism is an economic system that put the means of production in govt hands while communism is the political system that gives govt total control of the whole country.

Tolu121:
CASTLEVANIA season 3 is coming out today

Madd

Biden has the lead but it is far from decisive. There is still a long way to go

losprince:
So you are going to pull the what about card huh? We are discussing bernie here dude! Obama praising Cuba's education system and Bernie romanticising communism are two different things.

Bernie has literally praised every communist regime on the surface of this earth. The man is a radical hypocrite and I don't hate him, like I said before, I call his bullsh!t!

You're taking the sweet parts of Bernie's rhetoric and pushing it as the sole message he bears, which isn't the truth, if Bernie wants to make health care available to everyone (which it is at the moment, but he wants to stretch the extent so much that it reaches Cuba) while also allowing for the option of private health care, now that would seem okay, but no! He wants to go after the private sector, the whole thing should be government controlled, are you seriously going to argue that something fully run by the government is going to be as good as the alternative?

In a socialist setting, when you need something you depend solely on the government to provide it, while as in a capitalist setting, if you can work hard enough you can be self sufficient and independent.

I'd rather have a country where if I wanted to buy a loaf of bread I could go out with the money I earned from hard work and buy it, than one where I'd have to wait in line for the government to hand me one, and if they run out? then no bread for me.

Typical Nigerian ignorance. Talking a lot without proof or sense. Learn to back up your points.

All I would ask you to do is look at the uk. Bernie wants America to be like the UK.

Just finished altered carbon season 2.


First 3 episodes were boring as hell. It got better towards the end.

I'm in love with the lady the casted as Quellcrist. The woman is almost 50 and still looking sexy. Damn.

Both guys cast as future Takeshi Kovacs are in their earlier forties and younger than her.

All in all 6/10. Season 1 was far better.

Chrisbeks:
Whoever conducted those studies must be an idiot. We don't even need any study to disprove such a stupid theory, examples abound of very intelligent people who are also extremely religious.

I didn't say or the study didn't say that all religious people are not intelligent.

What it actually stated is that intelligent people tend to be less religious.

Study upon studies have concluded that intelligence and religion have a negative correlation.


It is a fact. If you believe that some old man in the sky is going to change your destiny, you are very likely to have a low iq

kendrick93:
Wouldn't call it sexism really.
Truth is generally Men can still be fit and good looking going into 40s-50s. than the ladies...
Also you have to factor movie goer's.... No one wants to see a 50yr old Nicole Kidman in a bikini acting all lovey lovey roles....
At the end of the day, movies are there to sell tickets and make money

Bullshite.

This woman is almost 50 years old

kendrick93:
Is Brad Pitt a hard man
or will smith or Matt Damon or Christian Bale, etc....
Truth is the guys get more top roles when in their mid 30s to 50s..
Same can't be said for the women..
There was a time the Nicole Kidman, Jolie, Sandra Bullock etc, ruled the screen but they've aged and no longer in demand like they were before...
Margot Robbie is the current 'It'.
Why are you finding it hard to accept i wouldn't know

Sexism and patriarchal culture.


Women are mostly valued for their beauty in a patriarchal society and so, when they get older, they are less useful and will get less useful roles- they will only get 'old woman maternal roles'.

Men on the other hand have other values ascribed to them apart from handsomeness. There is intelligence and strength. Tell me why Sylvester Stallone can still get mad roles despite his age and speech disability?

budaatum:
Don't know if black-americans are most religious. Just think blacks shout in public more about their religiosity than others. And I don't agree intelligent people are less religious as I've come across as many irreligious ignorons as I have of the religious sort.

We might be considering different facts though with your's being more accurate than mine.

Studies upon studies have shown that intelligent people are usually less religious.

TheShopKeeper:
An African-American made the following comment: a link is posted below

...The New York Times interviewed a 39-year-old African American voter in South Carolina...I found his analysis instructive....He told the Times: “Black voters know white voters better than white voters know themselves.… So yeah, we’ll back Biden, because we know who white America will vote for in the general election in a way they may not tell a pollster or the media.”....

See guilty conscience! Why is the African American defending his people on Twitter by claiming that they are not low information voters?

He is defending because intelligent people have made the claim that blacks vote against their interests.

Just look at religion in the south. The same south that christianity was used to defend the enslavement of blacks is the christianity majority of blacks follow.

Low info voters

raumdeuter:
Who cares about debates, Was Hillary not flogging Trump in debates yet lost

There are a lot of people in the middle, who dont like Trump but will never vote a socialist

Lets see what Sanders and his people do? Will they disrupt the party? run as the Independent he is or Just move to Trump

Hillary's corruption ended her. Trump kept hinting on it.

budaatum:
Its lazy to fob this off on religion, though it does suppose a 'do as you are preached to' attitude, as opposed to a 'do your own research' one which is rare or specifically ordered to justify already held beliefs, views and opinions amongst the religious.

I laugh at your "secular country", however. It's like claiming America has no socialism when it actually has tons.

Why are African Americans the most religious race in America?

Why are whites less religious?

Why are intelligent people less religious?


Simple questions, controversial answers

budaatum:
Biden can not beat Trump. Trump would in fact reduce him to a dithering fool and the only votes he'd get would be sympathy.

Don't know if Sanders could win either, but he does at least present an alternative, and can stand up to Trump.

Well said. My point exactly. Budaa!!

TheShopKeeper:
...Unfortunately Sanders did not improve on his result from 2016 among the black voters...also for Biden after his primary win in SC...shows 'free coverage' is better than 'media advertisement'(feel sorry for Michael Bloomberg)...

"In 2016, the Republican debates looked like circular firing squads. The loudest and most extreme candidate won. Trump, a Democrat until 2009, took the nomination and the presidency. Fascism came to America wrapped in the Flag and carrying a Cross. In 2020, the Democrat debates similarly looked like circular firing squads. The loudest and most extreme candidate seemed to win. The media proclaimed him the leader. The guy who in 2019, two weeks after filing as a Democrat for president, filed for reelection to the senate as an Independent. The media calls him a "progressive Democrat". He calls himself a Democratic Socialist. Believe him, Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. Both Trump and Sanders campaign against the "establishment". In fact they ARE the ESTABLISHMENT. Both have been helped by Russia. They are two sides of a very dangerous coin. Thank goodness that most Democrats, and hopefully the Country this fall, will vote for an American moderate, even if he is a bit befuddled!"

Bernie Sanders is part of the establishment??

You are part of the foolish black people I talked about. Please, dont take offence

Empiree:
Thank you. Next?

You posted 10 reasons against christianity

What if I post 10 reasons against islam

raumdeuter:
When people don't agree with your views, What does a liberal do? Insult them

Please insult the black people more so that your insult can change their mind and make them vote a socialist

This is not about socialism. African Americans are the most religious race in America. They are also the people most likely to vote against their interests.

Why would you vote for a bumbling senile slowpoke called Biden who has done nothing for the black community?

Sanders who has fought for civil rights fir black people and is still fighting against inequalities that majorly affect black people indirectly, is now ignored by blacks.


Accept it. Being very religious, especially in a secular country is a big sign of stupidity.

TheShopKeeper:
...People don't realize how conservative the black vote really is...especially the older voters in the South....black folks ain't buying the liberal socialist information from Sanders...they hate socialistic policies and illegal immigration just the same...they are more in favour of capitalist economic environment...

Even though I'm a black person, black people are quite foolish.

Damn

raumdeuter:
Bernie Sanders filed Monday to be a candidate for the Senate in 2024 — as an independent.

But last month, Sanders filed as a Democrat for president.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/700121429/bernie-sanders-files-to-run-as-a-democrat-and-an-independent

And so?

raumdeuter:
Sanders spent all his life as an Independent not a Democrat, So why should O Rourke, Buttigieg or Kloubachar who are Democrats who believe in capitalism support him and his socialist ideas


Bernie has been destroying the democratic party since

Bernie is the man. I pity the democrats.


Also, you are forgetting that trump was a Democrat. Please stop with the bernie was an independent crap

happney65:
"Biden went from being a joke to a juggernaut"Van Jones..
This is for the lazy supporters of Bernie..If they like they can go and break their heads on the wall,socialism is defeated for life in the U S of A..It can't work and should be confined to the dustbin of history..I was telling my wife this morning I never believed Biden could even win Texas..It is as if he had won the General Elections in my heart today..

The main factor is that the Democrats are all ganging up against him. How can he fight four people?

Buttygieg aka bootyman, Klobuchar, Beto O'Rourke all support Biden. That is 3 people plus biden.


it is like they want 4 more years of Trump. I have said it. Bernie or bust. If Bernie doesnt win the nomination, na Trump I go support last last. Maybe democrats need 4 more years to suffer before getting sense.

Sanders wins California

raumdeuter:
Biden wins Virginia, North Carolina and Alabama

Ah

sleekdot:
Socialism is plain evil. I know several Cuban doctors who fled the country some on boats just to escape the evil of Socialism

What about the UK? Sweden? Denmark?

Why would you choose a totalitarian communist country to represent socialist healthcare?

Kopfschmerzenmd:
That reetard don't even know the direction to the local airport in Nigeria.

I wouldn't be surprised

garetz:
All these dumbos asking for socialism don't know anything, they never study history, just a bunch of know nothing, ignorant liberals

Says the ignorant person who fails to learn about countries around him.

The top 10 developed countries in the world all have socialist healthcare. Instead of looking at ancient history for answers, you have present answers in the countries around you.

Check out Denmark, UK, Sweden, Canada etc dont be ignorant. In these countries, they would see Bernie Sanders as a normal politician and not a socialist.

sleekdot:
Shady sources?

All told, nearly 3% of Canada's population was waiting for some kind of medical care at the end of last year.

Those delays were excruciatingly long. After receiving a referral from a general practitioner, the typical patient waited more than 21 weeks to receive treatment from a specialist. That was the longest average waiting period on record -- and more than double the median wait in 1993.

Rural patients faced even longer delays. For instance, the average Canadian in need of orthopedic surgery waited almost 24 weeks for treatment -- but the typical patient in rural Nova Scotia waited nearly 39 weeks for the same procedure.

One Ontario woman, Judy Congdon, learned that she needed a hip replacement in 2016, according to the Toronto Sun. Doctors initially scheduled the procedure for September 2017 -- almost a year later. The surgery never happened on schedule. The hospital ran over budget, forcing physicians to postpone the operation for another year.

In the United States, suffering for a year or more before receiving a joint replacement is unheard of. In Canada, it's normal.

Just look at the United Kingdom's government enterprise, the National Health Service, which turns 70 this July. Today, British hospitals are so overcrowded that doctors regularly treat patients in hallways The agency recently canceled tens of thousands of surgeries, including urgent cancer procedures, because of severe resource shortages..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2018/06/11/canadians-are-one-in-a-million-while-waiting-for-medical-treatment/#20090efa3e7d

Again, fake news from an American contributor to an American news site about Canadian healthcare.


The piece was not written by a journalist who did proper research and we can see the obvious bias.

First of all, waiting times are the least of problems. Even American hospitals have waiting times.

Secondly if only 3% of Canadians were on waiting for healthcare in the last year, THAT IS A F4CKING EFFECTIVE SYSTEM.

Thirdly, note how the author uses Canada as a representative of all socialized healthcare systems around the world. In her own words-

"Canada isn’t an anomaly. Every nation that offers government-funded, universal coverage features long wait times."

How can she claim that this is true for all other countries with socialized healthcare systems? In the UK, the wait times are okay and if you are impatient, you can always choose to pay for the private healthcare which should be faster.

The author of the article fails to understand that Americans have a deadlier wait time when it comes to healthcare- imagine finding out that you are not insured for a particular sickness or that a doctor in your hospital is not under your insurance provider: you now have to look for another doctor or plan to insure you.

PDPGuy:
My view is that American may not become a 100% socialist country, however, there has to be a way of ensuring that child birth doesn't cost over $4000 in out of pocket costs, and a trip to the emergency room doesn't set someone back by $100,000.

Yes. Well said.