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Givaxy:
Says slaves to Yorubas who used their resources to develop western region. We even reduced them to 2 local governments with their 1million population

Read your history it will help you instead of disgracing yourself on a public forums.

[quote author=Givaxy post=99377632]Benins are slaves to yoruba with your 2 local government s. Intact the first oba of Benin is a Yoruba man[quote]I guess that's why your tribe men are known as weakling. I'm done, argue with yourself. Bye for life.

TheDestroyer:
Bini enslaved yoruba? . Even afonja fell as a result of his own doing, yoruba people purposely abandoned him and his people cos he fvcked up. If not there will be no single fulani in kwara by now. Read modafvcker

Of course. Bini enslaved Yorubas do you have anything to say about that?

darkwan:
can you keep quiet....??
wtf you think you are comin here insultin people....

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Logan23:
Blind Afonjja...After reading facts, alluding had to do was type old gibberish that u have typed before.

Dude, I thought you're intelligent but I've realized you're a curse soul living in your South East. I told you I'm from Edo State, can't you take a look at my profile? Travel and relinquish yourself of self hate. Bye for life.

Daum:
Ovbi'Oba
Calm down, I notice your monicker is less than a year old.
Don't fight issues here with these people, it doesn't change a thing.

If you digest the things here, you will hate people for no reason. No be everything dem day talk put.

One love

Yes, my monicker is new, but I'm no stranger to Nairaland. I usually read news and comments here and there. Sometimes someone has to respond and shut their mouth for life. Whenever I read their comments I get pissed off with their lies, though sometimes I ignore it but for how long reading their comments? I had to respond once and for all. No, I disagree with you. Only a lost soul would hate someone in a fictional world like Nairaland in the real World. It's all fun. One love.

Logan23:
Shut up oga, Igbos have a direct border relationship and a blood relationship with the efiks. Even the former governor of cross river state is Liyel imoke, An igbo man. Keep ur stupidity indoors before u use it and infect ur neighbours. No tribe in edo has any form of relationship with efik...Na only Urhobo n Isoko dem wey una dey close to and those ones go still reject una

Why drink panadol for another man headache? Does Enugu have relationship with Efik and Ibibio? The same way other minors are rejecting you slaves.

Omuaro38:
Look at this dirty Edo swine, when your superiors gather at the table of human royalty to chat and dine away, a servile Edo dog like yourself should be at the service of the table, right below picking the crumbs like the debased dirt-groveling subhuman that you are. When Edo begin talk when Igbos dey talk? you are way beneath even the most despicable Igbo castaway in all ramifications of human metric, you no dey shame dey admit say your dirty sisters dey okay international ashawo match , that's how useless and hard-done by life you degenerates are. Imagine how sad and miserable it must be to be an Edo subhuman when you next meal ticket as a woman is to get trafficked to Lebanon, Libya and Italy to suck the shrinkled d**ks of old Arab men just to send money home to Osahon and Osas to feed, no pride, no self-worth, no decency... meanwhile your worthless youths are wasting away in the oasis of cultism while Igbos are buying up Benin city and investing in your market economy and real estates, apparently the life of a typical Edo bastard isn't worth any more than a used tissue paper, if prostitution or cultism doesn't get you, then sooner or later witchcraft will. The shamelessness of your women have been made so profound that even international media outlets like BBC and Aljezeera even made documentaries on Edo whOres who prowl the streets of Europe whistling away to the highest bidders.

One Enuani woman Madam Ngozi Okonjo Iweala is worth more than the entire human capital of Edo witches all put together, bloody accursed pig. Little wonder your Oba is a primitive and fetish bastard who still revels in the practices of human sacrifice, it's not farfetched to see why Edo state is cursed.

Dude, I know this is a faceless forum but you're the dirty swine and a bulljive. Your father is a slave and you're born a slave. Your tribes were like every other group in Nigeria, Brits made you guys what you are today.. You know it and I know it y'all are not united don't act like all is well between every igbos tribes... You know Edo girls are beautiful you don't compare your smelling Enuani with Bini and for your information Your tribe is a piss of shit and can't breathe where Bini is present. Ok since you brought out Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, I will present Robert Sola Okojie.. Read about him piss of shit.. He's greater than your Ngozi Okonjo Iweala in every ramification of life. Why aren't Igbos buying their city, why Bini? Your women are everywhere across the country and outside Nigeria prostituting because they're getting older with no man to marry. The only tribe in the country with the highest number of unmarried women yet you insult others of prostitution and yours is getting old at home............. Have you watched Nigeria Porn? Your girls are constituting nuisance everywhere. Your men are drug infested, ready to be shot death in Arab and Asia country...... Kiss the truth and die of your hate for Bini............... Ndi Ala. I am ready for your insults................

Logan23:
I am from Enugu state......Edo has zero connection or relationship with efik, annang, iron or ibibio

Yes, we don't have relationship but a relationship can be a bargain between both groups. Dude, do you live on Nairaland? This is my first time engaging back and forth with someone on Nairaland.. It's crazy sometimes how we act like there's no relationship amongst us in the south, however it hurt me to insult your people because I have igbos in my family. My problem is I don't know why you guys insult Edos like they're the cause of your problem in Nigeria. Have a blessed life man, I don't hate it's all fun.

IDENNAA:
This is just sad that a human being sat down to write this twaddle of a deranged mind.

You are nothing but a glorified animal in human flesh. Your Oba , Ovonramen murdered innocent babies for sacrifice to win a war against the British and have the gut to open your bloody mouth. If you don't know you Bini people are eternally enslaved by your Oba. You can't even look him in the eyes like others do....what a degenerate

Oh, really? Have you ever advise your Ipob miscreants? Listen, every Ipobs on the internet insults Edos like it's their birthright. Why would you find my post insulting while your people are all over the internet insulting every tribes? Yes, we sacrifice human likewise your ancestors sacrifice and sold your people into slavery. I guess you should read about Kingdoms and Empires, you can't be powerful and not be ruthless. Well, I'm not enslaved to my Oba because I value what we have and not some people that don't have royalty in their bloodline. I am not a Bini man but from Edo State. Brits were fighting for their interest to gain access to Edo rain forest for rubber and other mineral resources. Please learn to read history with an open mind and don't be biased.

Logan23:
U aren't efik

Of course, not.. I am from Edo State.. Where are you from? Don't be a coward mention your State?

ken6488:
they create fake profiles to cause dis unity
I just they lough them,

Very selfie people. Why are they scared of their 5 STATES? I don't get it people without King, slaves that got together with bunch of tribes with the help of the British.

Omuaro38:
I have lots of Efik and Ibibio friends and I know for a fact that they detest you Edo scums. Which made me realize that even if the so called utopian Niger delta republic comes to fruition, the proud and noble Efik/Ibibio nation will have absolutely nothing to do with Edo people with their witchcraft, cultism, and international ashawo escapades. Edo can't even boast of a single index of human capital, yet you apes want to force your abominable identity on the Anioma people, thank God the Enuani people are too refined and sophisticated to fall for that cheap insult, your expansionist madness only worked with the Ika people who are suffering from the worst type of identity crisis.

I don't want to drag another tribe into this argument. Whatever Efik or Ibibio choose to be the ship will sail for good. Likewise, I have a few Efik and Ibibio friends and they resist you pigs like dead. Yes, we have witch craft likewise, there are witches everywhere in your village dog. You have drug infested rouge in every prison across Asian on death row waiting to be executed or sentenced to life in prison. Your baby factory is everywhere across south east with bastard infested children roaming Nairaland with so much hate and bitterness. I can bet my life take a DNA test you will be a bastard child from your baby factory. Igbos are the new World Trade Centre of Oloshonism, at least we took ours abroad not here in Nigeria. Well, you don't care about Edo people, why'd you know about our human index capital? Please mention your state and let's compare? You're born a slave and it will forever be in your death soul a bloody slave from a carnivorous bloodline. I get it why you can't shout your stinky mouth about Efik and Ibibio because you guys have so much in common eating human... I can't go on because it will spill doom for you before you woke up from your horrible life. I know you're from the South East but I would respond to you since you choose Enuani.. Dude, pray there shouldn't be war because Enuani would not survive the battle......... Just like you cowards blowup the Niger bridge that what gonna happen. For your information Enuani are not Aborigine in Delta State, there are Edos in your Stupid Godforsaken tribe where you said you came from Dog..... I can't wait for that blessed day where everyone would answer his father name...............

gidgiddy:
There no confusion anywhere. The simple question is this, what does an Edo man know about an Efik man on the other side of the River Niger? Or is just to say 'we are all Niger Delta'? An Edo man wants to claim to know more about Ogoja, Efik and Ibibio more than Igbos that have land border with them?

I laugh in Chinese

I laugh in Chinese

It doesn't matter why drink panadol for another man's headache? Are you from Efik?

darkwan:
their wahala too much....

very useless people....

Very useless Igbo boy from a lost generation.......... You must be one of the bastard baby product of a baby factory plc.

Ngorbungor:
Hahahaha hahahaha world War IV, those set of tribes/ people are the most unintelligent mammals that ever lived on earth.

Those set of people sold your stupid ancestors to their slave maters.....................

gidgiddy:
Its always been that way. The average Ogoja/Akwa-Cross person knows next to nothing about Ijaw/Edoid

Only Igbos/Igboid has land border with all of them

Thsts ehy I laugh when a Bini man in Edo is calling an Efik man, who is on the other side of the River Niger, his 'Niger Delta Brother'. What does a Bini know about an Efik man?

Slave! Why is it in your nature to cause confusion against other tribes? Hope you're living a good life? Igbos are slaves and sold like a piece of cake by minority tribes.... Stupid fellow......... Until you can tell us your true history Edo will be a nightmare you will never get over. Piss of shit.

IDENNAA:
Now , this is very apt. Bini is not up to a million people with a dead language squaring against a very culturally inclined Anioma who speak their language with so much pride.

The word Bini is like an achilles heels, you guys always masturbate on it. Bini not up to a million with a dead language. Please does Anioma have a language? Tell me the history of your State or village compare to Bini? The word Bini is greater than where you come from. What'd you achieve chest beating on the internet? The so called Anioma can't deny the Great Benin Influence in their culture and ways of life. Most of the Anioma that claim to be Igbos came from the South East and they're not Aborigines of the land. Be grateful of Nigeria the Brits made y'all majority tribes for a reason. Can your father standup or dare to oppose Bini? Argue with yourself and don't expect a response from me.

Stupid EFCC..................................................Where are the Agbada thieves

Logan23:
Sylvia Leith-Ross was an Anthropologist employed in 1930 by d British govt to Re-study the IGBOS after the Aba women riot......From her study, She wrote the book, AMONG AFRICAN WOMEN, with the preface written by Lord Lugard.

This is an exerpt from her book and I quote :

""These people are not intimidated by us, and are rather amused by us. They watch us and learn quickly what we know. God help us the day they climb the ladder.”
Goan find her book n read.

It took 30 years for the British to defeat the Mighty IGBOS, No Ethnic group in nigeria held them for that long, Most of u guys fell after a few weeks of British assault.





""I get pissed off when you guys think Bini care about your Biafra or Bini is championing to be part of your country.""

This is a very stupid statement, delete it..
I NEVER said Bini is championing to join biafra or anything like that.


""Majority of your ancestors were naked in the bush""

Ur ancestors in d Bini kingdom were naked and lived in the Bush wen the whites came, IGBOS had sophisticated Mud n clay houses and wore clothes before the white men came. We mined the ground and brought out metals to build several things, We mined Gold and Silver and used it for several ornaments....keep ur bini naked darkness to urself, no involve other more advanced tribes.




""there was nothing like igbos before the brtis came to West Africa""

I dont know why u are proudly ignorant. Olaudah Equiano who is an IGBO man sold to slavery recorded in many of his books that he is an IBO man and he lived and died between 1750 and 1800, long before the British came into Nigeria...Suppress ur ignorance

Nwanne, British didn't declare war on your tribes because it would spill doomed. Unlike Bini there was a declaration of war all over Europe and they had to reinforce themselves with better ammunition and local slaves to fight with the Bini kingdom.

If truly Bini was naked before the white men came, they'd have recorded it on their books. Benin Kingdom was already flourishing before the white men came to the Kingdom. Unlike your ancestors, who were wondering around naked in the bush. Please Igbo didn't live in mud houses, maybe if you're talking about Aro I will give you that, just maybe, but a majority of your tribes live in the bush.

Dude, there was nothing called Igbo.... All the books I have read is Ebo or Eboe. How does that translate to today Igbo and who were the Igbo then? Olaudah Equiano live in Benin Kingdom not the south east.

Logan23:
The british were very afraid of the igbos. It tool over 35 years for the British to defeat the igbos whole it took a few weeks for then to over run, decimate and burn the entire bini kingdom to d ground.

IGBOS were clothes far before the white man did, Only a fanatical lunatic will try to argue otherwise. We had Akwaette clothing that we weaved from ancient times and we had iron mines in Lejja Nsukka where we manipulated metals and made several forms of materials......Ur British Gods used carbon dating to record that the igbo iron mine in lejja is thousands of years old, which spurred an igbo female historian to write a book named - THEY EXISTED BEFORE ADAM.

Be wise n end this stupidityyy of yours before it's too late.

British afraid of the Igbos? Dude, are you ill or seasick? What are Igbo and who were the Igbos? Please get yourself a book and read, don't just spit bulljive on the internet thinking most of us reading are fools. Igbos are like the Yorubas collective of tribes there was nothing like igbos before the brtis came to West Africa. Majority of your ancestors were naked in the bush stop arguing with yourself. Dude, I'm from Edo State and we don't give a dime about the brits. I don't argue online I would rather read and research but I get pissed off when you guys think Bini care about your Biafra or Bini is championing to be part of your country. Why do you think people with greater civilization than you would want to be part of your country? I love you guys but it seems there's something about nairaland that encourage hate speech and tribalism. Nairaland is a fictional World don't dwell yourself with so much hate because you don't know who's going to help you tomorrow.

Let them be abeg.

Logan23:
Igbos also dont give a flyfuck about Benin or Edo.

U meant u are slave to the British or what?


Benin had a kingdom but there were so so scared of coming to the Amazon forest owned by the igbos. Coward slave.

Bulljive, I don't have time ranting on the internet. Your ancestors has nothing to offer the Kingdom. Be grateful of the Brits you'd have been a caveman roaming your southeast jungle naked. Peace and out.... Argue with yourself.

Logan23:
Nobody added edo or bini or any part of ur enclave into biafra....Never happened in 1967, hasn't happened today.

Be guided.

Do you think Bini give a Bleep about you Igbos? Thanks to British maybe all the south east would have been an Amazon forest. Slave.

Fu*ktard wailers on nairaland when the war start hope y'all will be ready for fight....

TruthHurts1:
Only fools believe that TB Joshua is a prophet.

That's why you're a fool.............. I'm a testimony of his great work......... You don't have to believe............ Just watch.........

BaaleOko:
This useless Benin product of witchcraft, international ashawo business and cultism if you like impersonate fake accounts but we can see through the smokescreen of your badly played deceit. I'm a proud Anioma man from Enunai Ibusa to be precise, what part of "Anioma" are you from? Your people have been seriously warned to know where you want to encroach on with this your useless Benin expansionist scam... but it seems you guys have decided not to listen, it's when we decide to get very violent with your parasites that you will realize not to toy with a man's land and identity. Once again on behalf of the Enuani nation which I proudly represent, we are proudly Igbos and have at NO POINT traced our roots to some Benin empire rubbish, we know our history and the etymology of our linguistics are all of thr central Igbo origin. So it's wisely advised you make a U-turn and focus your imaginary Benin/Anioma rubbish to the Ika people who share borders with you, the Ika can decide to come from Benin since they share so much in common with you lots... but any attempt to encroach on Enuani territory will be met with brutal and savage resistance, lots of our people have been sensitized to this Benin threat and are strongly rejecting that abominable Benin tag all over social media with one voice. The Enunai people are unapologetically Igbos and no minority witch with delusions of grandeur from Edo will change that overnight. Needless to mention we still have scores to settle with you scums for how you collaborated with the Nigerian soldiers to kill our people during the civil war... we shall never forget and in due time we shall even the scores of retribution.

Despite your rhetoric words Bini is ahead of your tribe or whatever you called yourself......... Enuani Nation is just a piss of shit compare to Bini...... If you don't know being an Igbo makes you a slave and you will forever be known as slave all the rest of your life.... There won't be Nigeria without Bini..... Where were your Igbo ancestors before the coming of the white man in West Africa? Inferior complex ass licking Enuani nation.... Now y'all are clamoring with populace Tribe........... What's the meaning of Igbo, you piss of shit.......... Your stupid tribe would have gone extinct without the presence of Bini...... Lame ass Enuani nation with no direction..........

TAO11:
Lol. You had to chip this comment in after I had replied ??

You’re trying too hard to give off the false impression that I couldn’t debunk you.

Well, I have debunked this before, and I will do it again. Thanks for the opportunity.
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Here goes the bit-by-bit comments after every bit of the actual translation of the French book, starting from the last line of the page 25:

Translation:
“Captain Horsely referred to it as Eco, and that is how it was designated by the Ijebus •••”

Comment:
(1)(a) The pronoun “it” here (in the context of this book) obviously does not refer to the modern geographical delineation of present-day Lagos State.

(1)(b) Rather, ”it” here refers to one of the many islands of Lagos — specifically that which is known today as Lagos Island.

(2) The name “Eko” for this island was coined by the Ijebus — and not by the Binis.

Translation:
“••• by the Ijebus, but it is not their domain, it is the Benins’ — who refer to it by the name Korame •••“

Comment:
(1) This shows that although the name “Eko” was coined by the Ijebus; the Binis have been on that specific location before them.

This statement here says absolutely nothing about your false notion that the Binis are the autochthonous owners of the island (or any part of Lagos).

(2) In fact, this same book already debunks such idea on page 25 where it clearly indicates that, the autochthonous ownership of the island [and beyond] belongs to the Aworis — not the Binis, nor the Ijebus.

(3) In sum then, this statement here (rather than speaking of autochthonous ownership) simply speaks of the relative right of the Ijebus or the Benin’s to the specific land which the Ijebus later came to name and occupy.

(4) The autochthonous ownership of all the land (according to this same book on page 25 and 26) has absolutely nothing to do with the Binis.

Translation:
“••• the Benins’ — who refer to it by the name Korame [which is] recognizably the Curamo of the old Portuguese’s accounts, just as Eko represents the Dutch hydrographers’ Ichoo.

Korame and its mainland were linked, in the past, by a sandspit between the great lagoon and the sea. The Ijebus have, however, for a long time seized that sandspit which has also been infiltrated by Ijaw pirates in the East.

Korame thus remained isolated at the end of the great lagoon, and continued to be dependent on Benin for its choice of governor or political leader.”

Comment:
(1) The Binis call the island “Korame” based on the old Portuguese word “Curamo” — not the other way round.

(2) The Ijebus who had coined the word ”Eko” for the island also did that (according to this book) based on the old Dutch word “Ichoo”.

(3) [Trade] activities in Lagos appears to attract more people than Ijebu and Benin immigrants. The Ijaws are also noted to have fallen in.

(4) It is noteworthy that the political leadership alluded to here [“governor or political leader”] was for the Binis, by the Binis, among the Binis, confined the part of the island left for the Binis.

The fact was witnessed by a German trader by the name Adreas J. Ulsheimer who in the year 1603 visited the settlement left for the Bini immigrants.

He noted that their settlement was on an island [Lagos island]; that it was fenced; that they ran their own affairs within the walls of their settlement, and that there were other bigger settlements on the island.

In other words, their dependence on their King (back in Benin) for the choice of their leader for their Bini must
not be confused with some idea of a King of Lagos.

No, the author of this French book chose his words carefully. He wrote “governor or political leader”. There are French words for “King” or “Monarch” if he had intended that.

Moreover, the kingship of Lagos island hadn’t yet begun as at this period. The Lagos island kingship didn’t begin until at the end of the 1600s/early 1700s.


It is always super easy to refute your dumb lies.

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Cheers.

Why can't you make an argument instead of reposting your copy paste? Aren't you aware some people login Nairaland to read posts and comments? Yoruba people nah wa for una. I don't think I've quoted you before, but I'll take it upon myself to expose who you truly are on this forum. I pray you don't have a social media account because I will hack into your device.

nocomment2:
I am still trying to understand what these revisionists stand to gain by constantly telling lies.
I got interested in Benin history when I walked by a precolonial globe in the french national library and I saw the name Benin on it. then my curiosity did the rest. History is a beautiful thing, I don't see why some people are hell bent in telling lies rather than discovering and sharing true history.

It suite there egos that's why they won't change. They get hurt whenever the name Benin is mentioned because it's like a nightmare to them, a minor tribe constantly debating and debunking their claims. That hurts, man. What's your thoughts about the Edos and Japanese having some words in common?

nocomment2:
has anybody noticed that Edo and the japanese language share a lot of common words ?

Notice that the word "Oba" is also a japanese word.

Guys like you who are speaking truth and fact about history are the reason I'm still hanging around on Nairaland. It feels good to have people like you on this forum; I have learned a lot from you guys.. Those pathological liars won't change it's who they are.

Bkayyy:
Na only talk you go talk. You fit do anything about it?
When it comes to prostitution we know the people that have PhD in the discipline.
I no come know between una and Bini girls who like Prick pass.
Funny Dwarf prostitutes

Add Imo to the list they're known prostitute.

Sobasojek:
Shut up arindin. Benin is not even a town not to talk of kingdom or empire. The whole of Edo state is not even up to Ibadan in landmass

How can you call your tiny Benin an empire when the whole of Edo state does not have Ibadan landmass?

All Edo indigenes aren’t up to Ibadan indigenes alone. So tell me where is your mumu empire?

Oloriburuku omo

I wish there's a voice message so I can insult you very well with your language, though I can't write it and I'm not interested to look up Google. I have nothing to do with you, and I wasn't referring to you. I don't have time to quote history because I'm not a historian. Spend less time on this forum because it won't help your life. Afonja.