₦airaland Forum

MrCrackles:
Then until Abati comes out and spill the beans, i wont be quick to pan and tan him!

What if _{(just an if statement by the way)} Abati keeps mute and never speaks about this land issue?

@ Olanajim and akinlabi

What's all these fuss about? No one is against Dapo but it's a shame that he tries to rule a people and he's running away from these same people. We know quite alright that PHCN palaver has not stoppped him from posting on here because he's been pretty active on facebook.

Forget he name-calling and let Dapo answer the damn questions. There's nothing wrong in asking him questions publicly if he's vying for a pubic post, is there? This is not about his father but to question what credibility he has and also we need to see through him as well as hear his manifesto not none of them "Que Sera sera" mumjo-jumbo we hear every now and then from him.

That's what everyone here is about and noone is yelling at him. Don't you think it's quite rude asking questions on Nairaland and you going elsewhere to respond to them? The traces he leaves behind would be traced back to him someday - definitely.

I'll try my best to closely monitor this court case as well and hopefully it'll not be a watershed. Though there's not much we could do now, but we'll speak from far and near and hope to be heard one day.

Yeah, 6 more days.

This is the source people,

http://www.saharareporters.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=754:dr-reuben-abati-breaks-his-silence-&catid=81:external-contrib&Itemid=300

But the heading looks as thus: "Dr Reuben Abati Breaks His Silence "
Monday, 16 February 2009 10:33 By SOC Okenwa"

So I doubt this is directly from Dr Reuben Abati himself.

debosky:
I question how much of relevance it has in the Nigerian context, since all the politicians say the same thing: I will give you 'water, roads, light, security, jobs, etc'. There are very few ideological differences (if any) that can be used to distinguish candidates in Nigeria. Personalities dominate more than anything else.

FACT!!!

brein:
@B.O.S.S pls acept my sincer apeal dat i was ab, 4rm d meetini was actualy online but there wasnt responds?.

I'll mail you what we discussed. I understand there might be teething problems here and there.

It's cool mate.

When we keep a dignified silence, it doesn’t mean we’re stupid, when we ignore your comments, it doesn’t mean we’re not good enough to give you a worthwhile response, and when we let you win, it doesn't mean we're weak.

Flatter us, and we may not believe you. Criticise us, and we may not like you. Ignore us, and we may not forgive you. Encourage us, and we will not forget you. Love us and we may be forced to love you. In fact we’ll damn your treacherous flatteries without winking.

Your harmful opinions beliefs of segregation in order to contend for peace might be dull, dim and haughty but we’ll rather ignore those and concentrate on the topic.

At this struggling stage of this nation, to be heard, we all need to be optimistically devoted and do more than belong but participate. Do more than care; help. Do more than believe; practice. Do more than be fair; be kind. Do more than forgive; forget. And finally to do more than dream; work.

To make this country great again, we need tall men, sun-crowned, who live above the fog in public duty, and in private thinking.

superboi:
boss sorry i culd not make it to the chat yesterday where can i get details of what was discussed?

It's ok. We all understand everyone has one or two things to attend to at the same time we don't want to interfere too much especially if you have important things to attend to. 

Send me an email and I'll update you what we discussed. _{My email address is on my profile.}

And by the way, yesterday was a success so hopefully we'll get onto better things.

Here are some people giving their own money, their own time, their own energy, putting their own lives at risk all for the same of some common good. And then there are some people sitting comfortably on their well heated/air conditioned room criticising and writing tonnes of garbage on Nairaland.

It feels sad to be lonely and not able to apply something constructive to all the things we do and all the pieces we write. It’s a shame to see your fellow youths doing things and trying to effect people’s lives not for their sole senseless selfish interest but in a bid to set good paradigm and have the other able-bodied youths see the light through them and then participate but some of these same youths would rather churn out trivia in the name of making themselves heard.

They criticise and say we cannot get our names right. They call us nonsense. They call us ignorant for not supporting their mindless views of divide and conquer analogy. They think we are cults after hundreds of articles written and expectations raised of how we could save a nation endangered.

It’s a movement to get our country developed and you don’t have to partake nevertheless if you stand for nothing, you’ll fall for anything. If you stand for the off-putting, you’ll never last in your deeds. If you stand for fading and below par theories in order create your bastardised hullabaloos, you’ll fail while your contemporaries reach great heights.

I hope whoever this relates to doesn’t shoot me (the messenger) and ignore my message. As it stands, our country would grind to a halt if we don’t act and how to prevent this happening is up to us with almost every sector deteriorating and just a bunch of few people with affirmative aims.

We don’t need just prayers, we need to get physical with our intentions and not by any means violent. However as it stands, with zero positive aspiration and zero hope, as much as I believe in the almighty, I know for sure that God can never multiply zero.

@ Eziachi

I'm not one to back down from confrontations however this thread is not one of those with responses of tribal bashing but as long as your passport says Nigerian, I see no wrong in stretching a helping hand to my fellow Nigerians. As long as Ojukwu is alive, I guess then your dream of Biafra is alive but could you do yourself a favour by creating a thread dedicated to such cause and we could carry out our debate on that turf?

@ Eziachi

Very fair assessment by Eziachi and to be honest, I was expecting the kind of faux-pessimism even before I delved into his response. The mere fact that we are still a nation, and your tantrums cannot divide Nigeria, we will do our best to offer bits of charity and education to the people we think deserve it.

Until then, Eziachi, carry your Biafra go. This is not the thread for that. Don’t educate me on your devious beliefs because I’ll rather do what I think is right in the stipulation I find myself than try to re-enact a state to suit myself event hough I know I cannot command the powers that be.

Marymos:
if more police commissioners and other top government officials and politicians are been attacked it will make them to refine the police force.

No disrespect to you at all but I doubt refining of the police force would happen if these lawmakers are being atacked. I think they'll just upgrade their cars and automobiles from bomb-proof to everyattack-proof.

I can bet you on that.

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jamace:
Are you surprised? Why do you think they kill, maim and do all forms of corruption to get that position? Why do you think political godfathers, both serving and retired, must make sure it's only their loyalists that get there? My brother, we are supposed to weep for our country. It is rotten .

So they basically get paid approximately 61% of money allocated to about 150 million people. OH MY GOD. What a country?

[center]Rotten is an understatement in describing the state of Nigeria.[/center]

bayemibo:
The figure, contained in a document by the Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission, is only 39 per cent lower than the N2.9tn budget for 2009 sent to the National Assembly by Yar’Adua for approval.

       

Another post in response to DapoLam's answer

@ Dapo Lam,

I believe your ''golden answers'' are in response to the questions addressed to you on nairaland. I would leave whomever it was, who raised those questions to further take you on. However, that you state your father was the best governor in Oyo State is a preposterous statement. What exactly did he do for Oyo State? What basic amenities were provided for the citizenry of Oyo State?

I know the matter here is not about your father, but if you think you can ride on the name of your father to get a seat in Abuja, I am seeing you as the next Baba Sala of Ibadan.

Peoples' responses to DapoLam's answer so far

QUESTIONS ASKED,
1) What exactly is your intention?

2) What are your dreams for the Ibadan people and Oyo at large?

3) Are you just using this as a publicity or you genuinely want a change?

ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS,

1) I would not say too much for now

2) The fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom

3) My father has his life to live

4) I have my own too to live

IT IS CLEAR YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING OF SUBSTANTIAL TO GIVE TO OYO STATE. THIS IS MY CONCLUSION. UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE ME OTHERWISE AMONGST SEVERAL OTHERS WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY TOO.

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hmmmmmm, 9ice1 bro.God bless you for your response.Infact I don't know whatelse you need to say again, I repeat God bless you again.

I look foreward to seeing more of minds like you coming out to let us go and do this job,we can do it and our Nation shall be great again, we cannot continue to wait again because the time is NOW! and we are taking over.
God bless us and God bless Nigeria!

LOL, _{and by the way @ Kobojunkie, your response is in ur mail.}

[center]To people not on Facebook, below is DapoLam's response to the 11 questions posted by MT. Now what do you think? I have not added nor remove anything.[/center]


1. I think one of the mistakes we have made in the present dispensation is the case of forcing individuals to contest and not only contest but contest for positions they know they are not capable of.Few good examples are :

A. A man winning an election from the jail without collecting nomination form nor going through screening nor campaigning.

B.A man who was supposed to retire to his homestate after 8 years of governance due to his health and was dragged to come continue as ruler.

C.A man that collected the form of senate and was made Governor afterwards.

I think we should allow individuals to decide their capability and where they know they can be very effective as we know no one knows any individual than that individual him/herself.Forcing anyone to go to any position where he/she has not planned for or feels he/she is capable would compound our problems in Nigeria.
Therefore I have given a thorough search and done a sincere analysis which has made me realise that i would be more effective as a member of the house of Reps than anywhere else for now.

2. Political experience as we all claim is obvious one of the problems that we all face.We have seen people with little or no political experience perform while we have also seen people with all the experiences required misbehave,All in Nigeria.I believe we cannot continue to play politics with the lives of our people and even our own lives.I know we have a governor in Nigeria who has got little or no political experience and if we are sincere, Babatunde Fashola is the best Governor to have ruled on the shores of our Nation.In less than two years he has done the impossible.He has put politics aside and he has taken full control of governance and delivery of dividends to the people.Have you given it a thought that if he had been fully into politics,would he have been able to overlook politicians and do a thorough job?Would he have been able to step on toes of politicians?Would he have been able to remain this focused and sentiments of we installed you would not have come in?We have suffered enough in this country because we have left governance in the hands of politicians alone.If we have done that for this long and it hasnt taken us anywhere,why dont we change tactics and see the results?At least the issue of BRF has shown that a solution can come from people who are not so involved in politics.

3. Obviously, all position, not only House of Reps needs people of integrity and there is no doubt about that.The issue of political anteceedents have been answered with question 2.But remember we have numerous examples of people with noor little political anteceedent and have shown they are better than the ones with all the records politically.Bola Ahmed Tinubu became senator at his first shot in politics,he was not crucified and thank God he rose to the post of Governor and made a great mark that would never be forgotten in the history of Nigeria,Saburi Bankole became a member of house of reps and not only that he also became speaker against all odds,Babatunde Fashola became Governor without having so much political Anteceedents and we can all see what he is doing.He is the best of all times.

4. Basically i was able to raise youths who believed in the same ideology of mine because at that time it was very difficult to convince people that it wasnt what they expected.It was all about what they can achieve from you.I did my part,raised few people who afterwards became councillors,presidents of SUG,SUG secetaries,and we were able to form an association called Students Liberation Forum which stood for the truth and fought for the emancipation of students in Oyo State.Though we didnt have so much funds to run it but we made our mark.

5. I cannot severe ties with anybody but I can only caution people the way I have being doing.I believe we are all matured and knows what is right from what is wrong.We must allow freedom as part of what we stand for.I have several times called for decency and decorum in all what we do and most importantly our discussions,debate and argument.We know all cannot support us, but it would have been better if we do it in a more matured way so that no one takes us as unserious elements.We are the ones clamouring for change and the people we seek to move out for us to come in would surely see us as clowns if we cannot control ourselves.We are not against opposition,and surely we all know that a real man with sincere intentions would thrive in the midst of opposition if he can use them as the tonic needed to make him/her move forward.

6. We believe in an egalitarian society where all would be equal.A society where the son/daughter of an unknown person can contest against the son/daughter of a well to do or very famous person and win, so far he /she is the wish of the people.A society where the people can have a say but the majority would have their way.A society where anyone caught trying to rig an election would be dealt with as a leper.A society where anyone caught stealing or trying to steal government money would be jailed and would be banned for life from contesting or holding any public office.A society where the youths can see hope and realise they are the leaders of tommorow.A society where we appreciate ourselves,shun envy,hatred and personal vendetta.A society where there would be no discrimination and women can aspire to be anything including the president.A society where we can allow ourselves to express our minds and not shout anyone down.Infact The society of your dream,My dream and Our Dream.

7. Charity as I have said should not be used for political reasons.I was forced by people to say what I have done and I had to.I believe anyone in the society whom God has been so kind to must remember the less priviledged and That is why I dont go on air to make noise about what I do and surely I wont do that.Charity is supposed to be between the benefactor,beneficiary and God Almighty.

8. Our company is located in Ibadan,It is called Skipet oil and Gas ltd.A very small company that does supply of diesel to other companies.we have less than N10million as capital and it includes a loan from our bank.I will not mention the names of my partners online but you can confirm from CAC and if need be I can link you up with them but for security reasons,it is unsafe to name them here.Our incoporation number is Rc 705989.

9. Chasing away anybody wasnt for any reason apart from the fact that anyone who is not in belief or tandem with our ideology must not be allowed to stain us.I am a strong believer of what you wont eat must not be brought close to your nose.I dont hate anyone but anyone who is Anti-people would I always be against all my life.God help me.

10 I can never disassociate myself from my father but surely he had his own mistakes too.I love and respect him.He is a man of integrity and credibility.He is not a saint but I have my own life to live.He has done his best and has contributed his quota,it might not be good enough to some and it would be to some others,that is life.The struggle we are on now would take us to a point where all would be judged by the people.Let us get to that point and let the people decide who truly served them and who stole their money.I know and accept my father made some mistakes but surely did a lot of good too.No sentiments.

11. Maturity has come into play,I have made my mistakes too and infact I have learnt a lot.I would do some things differently but I would still stick to the ideology of not doing what is wrong which I tried as much as possible to maintain.

I never collected or executed any government contract throughout my father’s tenure as governor,if i have that opportunity I will still not collect or execute any government contract.

I have never been involved in crime,I will still not be involved in any crime.

I dont drink nor smoke,I will still not do that.

But I would have impacted more on the lives of people which if I have another chance would be paramount in my mind.

Sometime in the history of this country,we shall make a mark that all would be proud of.We shall write our names in gold and we shall deliver the goods,by the special grace of God Almighty.

Thank you and God bless.

I'm just about to read the responses to the 11questions now and by the way, there's another group created titled, DAPOLAM, THE DECEPTION OF 2011. http://www.facebook.com/s.php?sid=6baf944b2f07691d0569c9493b0b3b71&init=q&sf=r&k=400000000010&n=-1&q=dapolam%20adesina#/group.php?sid=6baf944b2f07691d0569c9493b0b3b71&gid=47396919132. I guess people are quite disgruntled. Check out a post by one of the members as stated "Bayo Akande, so anyone that questions Dapo is a hater. Pls, go to https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-176871.576.html and read the 11 questions posed by MT to Dapo on Nairaland. He does not abuse or malign his personality. He asked the questions in good fate. Unfortunately, your inner caucus could not pull the mental strength together to answer the poser, so Mr Dapo has to finally run away from the site. What a candidate!, What an ambition!"

A response from the link above is:

Name Withheld, you just wrote I cannot win, unfortunately I have WON along with other comrades. Our mission is to let the people know of your deceit and lies that you are packaging. You didnot even handle the packaging right. You wanted to play on people's mentality to vote your candidate online, but you were shocked by what you saw in return. Dapo took his campaign to nairaland, unfortunately, he could not handle the truth and he had to abandon nairaland. He ran away. Nairaland has become a good reference for anyone that wants to write about Dapo's biography. Good enough, you cannot delete post there.
So, people have known who he is, people have chased him out of nairaland, his ambition has suffered an irreparable dent, his past has been revealed to the whole world. So, it is :
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
We opened this group to be able to voice our opinion when posts are being deleted by your administrator in your own group. No one can shut the truth up.
Oh well.
Back to facebook to read the responses now.

@ Gamine

You don't have to join but could you please desist from knocking us? If we succeed it's our business likewise if our efforts get frustrated. So if you can't say something positive, stay away.

Gamine:
You people are jokers

There is nothing on Power sef

looks like the same old naija talk-talk

priorities are just messed up. .kai

That's part of the whole governance issue. By the way, we are not jokers. we have decided to devote our time and help our country the best way we could. You don't have to agree with us but any advise would be seen as a way forward and we'll take it as complimentary. At least constructive criticism would do rather than knocking us. By the way, we are just people of your age trying to do something good for free. If youths of the nation just want to knock everything positive, then tell me what's the way forward?

banom:
that girl is too ugly, even when paid i can not marry her.

Really? What if they dash you for free?

_{By the way, did you get my mail @Kobojunkie.}

Me is patiently waiting for Toks Ajayi to fire us seriously o.

I hope say this Nairaland no go explode. At least she go talk whether na she or na him _{(as stolen from must_a_phar).}

Toks won't like this. She was initially cursing, now she'll reach her voodoo.

banom:
You have just said something i pointed out i the first post, this thread is not about religion, it is all about avalable recources in Nigeria, we have men who has power that can heal our president, then why haven't they done so ?

Yuo've just regarded miracles as an available resource in Nigeria.

I love your humour.

EDUCATION

Education is not a privilege but a right as well as a priority in any nation that wants to survive.

There is no way a building with shaky foundation will have an everlasting structure. Examination malpractices are so rampant in our institutions to the point that not making the minimum requirement guarantees an admission neither does satisfying the minimum requirement guarantees a place except you know your way. University are being closed at will. Our institutions are places to practise cultism, raping, kidnapping. In place of working hard and spending a lot of time in the library and in group discussion, now students device many different ways to survive in the system. Students spend their cash and body in obtaining what they want. Unfortunately, we as a nation can only reap where we sow.

Lecturers  miss classes with impunity. Our present leader was once a university lecturer but he’s closed he’s only done well by paying lip service to the ills of the education sectors. Students are no more willing to learn but look for short cuts to good grades and certificates without actually working for it.

Our university representatives are being bought. We could collectively let them know they’re no more speaking for us. Students should see the power that was once manifested in them as in the days of old. The memories of student power in the early nineties are still fresh and I believe the firing power is still there. More and more students are travelling abroad to get an education of more eminence. How about the families that cannot afford it? How about the consequences brain drain?

After all in the 70s and early 80s when educational institutions were of very high standard, the trend for foreign education was negligible. Some opinions even have it that, then only the ‘never-do-wells’ scurried abroad for further education. What then has led to the present decay in Education?

Let’s join hands together in putting this madness to an end. If we act, the younger generation will live to enjoy a better and a more prosperous Nigeria. Thereafter progress and tranquility will rain in this country and our nation will be full of future youths who are gainfully employed.

We are poised with the struggle for youth matters as it affects the youths and our nation, and map out ways that will better our community and the country in general. To acknowledge a fault is to take the first step in its transformation. A problem known is a problem solved. We are willing to sacrifice our time, efforts, energy and everything we have to save our country’s educational system. It’s up to me and you.

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Moves:
B.O.S.S send ur own rewrite up concerning education so that we people that have signified interest in the sector can have something to chew on prior to sunday meeting, Health people have started theirs by creating awareness, Also waiting for details concerning the forum and platform to be used for the sunday meeting,
In the meantime , should u require me to do anywork am available

The website is ready and we've tested it extensively. In fact we're holding our meetings on there daily now. My write-up should be ready latest today.

If you mail me, I'll send you the web address. Due to conflict on interest with Nairaland, we don't want to add the web address on here being a forum.

We'll need you to keep firing for us either way though. But pls, I'll be expecting your mail. Pls make some moves.

lawyer:
ehen!

Despite all my underground work for una abi? Na the yab i get be this abi?
Ok!
Bhola over to you! Me i don wash my hand comot!

No be yab now Lawyer. Na just that we don't want to divert. We want everyone to follow the same process. Afterall, it's for the benefit of all.

superboi:
hello all i sort of sign in 3 days ago into the movement. i had a chat with kinren2000,. i will want to join dey education group.

Welcome to my group then superboi. Regardless of what committee you want to join, just follow the ABC steps. You’ll then receive an email and the rest would follow behind the scene.

Regards

Steps:

A - Add name to the list on this thread
B - Bless us with your email at ndmnigeria@gmail.com
C - Confirm any committee of interest on our form

Now that's simple as ABC

bilms:
is the conference holding just meant for the commite on education or all the committe on the organization.

The conference is holding on all sectors. As below:
1 Education                                                     -  Coordinator B.O.S.S
2 Special Projects                                           -  Coordinator Bhola
3 Governance and corruption                         -  Coordinator Sky Blue
4 Awareness, Image Laundering and Media  -  Coordinator Sam Milla
5 Health                                                          -  Coordinator proudly9ja

bilms:
where is the conference holding?

Conference would be holding on our forum. Register and select the committee of your choice. 7pm Naija Time.

bilms:
I will like to add one more note.

i think we should like create an awareness in all the 36 states of Nigeria. trying to allow free anf flow of information

just like the politicl parties. from there we can extend to both town and villages.

and i think all should be in the plab from start tp avaoid unnecesary distraction as we goforward

Sure we’ll do that after the conference on Sunday, all hands would be on deck.

Thanks for your advice. It’s been surely noted.

Very insightful article however my comments wouldn't be long as we've been saying the same things over and over. We cannot keep talking to stones. Let's take things into our own hands. God would not save us. Period.