ruphytelecom:
6 cells with 4400mAh and lasts for 2hrs

Pricin'??

ruphytelecom:
hp 630 battery is available.

How much and what's the capacity.....

Rilwayne001:


Lol.. You need deliverance from the spirit of stupidity because you are extremely stupid and at the same time daft. I knew you were going to come up with another dumb assertion. That's is your thing I know.

You also came up with a quite pointless premise. Be careful to point hands/fingers
...

Really? Aren't idol worshipers people of other faith? Why did your God ordered for their killings?

Yahweh ordered his jihadist to exterminate all the inhabitants of Canaan (men, women, and children) and to take their land yes or no? Fool

This is a lie, the bolded is clearly not true. Showed you didn't actually read of the scripture but copied or heard of lies from your muslim folks who feed nothin' but lies to you all..

Okay here, read for yourself dumbass..


Deuteronomy 20:17 You must utterly destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Revisited, just as the LORD your God has commanded you.

You talk once again without wisdom..
You forget that in the perceptions of the war that went within' the Israelite and the other parties, they we're actually at war


But then God gives a way out in Deut 20:11-12 "11. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then shall it be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. 12. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:"

This acts of yours deceptively selectin' parts of the scripture to prove your claim - reveals every of your premise would be unjust and biased.

The God of the Bible threatened the people of Palestine/ Canaan with catastrophe (nakba ):

Exodus 15:14 [b] The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestine.

This was clearly quoted out of context.. the preceding and latter verses clearly exposes the deception in this statement.

Killings! Killings!! And continuous killings!!!
21:3 The LORD heard the voice of Israel and delivered up the Canaanites; then they utterly destroyed them and their cities. [/b]Thus the name of the place was called Hormah [Utter Destruction]

Somehow, you clearly missed the part in Numbers 21:1, where king Arad fought the Israelite and took some of them prisoners.

Deuteronomy 2:24 Then the LORD said, “Now get moving! Cross the Arnon Gorge. Look, I will hand over to you Siphon the Amorite, king of Heshbon, and I will give you his land. Attack him and begin to occupy the land.
2:25 [b] This very day I will begin to put the terror and fear of you on all the nations under heaven. They will hear reports of you and will tremble and be in anguish because of you.”

Why

The preceding verse 19 explains why this was.. The land had been given of Lot. I won't explain any further, since you never read the verses but quoted them out of context..

2:33 The Lord our God delivered him over to us and we struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army.
2:34 At that time we took all his cities and [size=18pt] completely destroyed them men, women and children. We left no survivors. [/size]

I am sorry I couldn't articulate my post, I just couldn't withhold the water flowing down my eyes

What is the different? Aren't they people of other faith? Why kill them? And did you just said only those who want to lure people to other strange gods? Are you sure of this? I have other verses to show that you are indeed lying.

The preceding Verse 32 disples this argument, It reads "Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz "

"I'm sure you understand the English language and can discern what the embolden texts above means.. Sihon clearly brought the fight to the Israelite.

Why are you this a liar?

You're clearly the liar in this context... Untruthful and deceptive

So you deem Allah to be a strange God yet don't want us to see Yahweh as a strange God? Who does that? You wanna eat your cake and have it at the same time? Impossible impossicant

What prove do you have for this blood thirsty biblical God?

This Blood thirsty God you refer to, your unholy prophet Muhammad (piss be upon him) in his unholy book made specific reference to this same God you call blood thirsty... Unless you'd deny specific reference to the Torah (tawra), the Psalms (zabûr) and the Gospel (injîl), revealed respectively to Moses (Wrote the books Exodus, Numbers and Deuteronomy you've quoted), David and Jesus.

Can you see exactly how slow you have gone in essence to argue...

Use your brains bro...

WhoRUDeceiving:


Looks more like you stand with Islam because you clearly don't stand with Black Africa. Have you heard of coup? As in Coupist, coup plotting, military rule? Have you heard of democracy?

When you have a coupist leading a democracy into oblivion and people like yourself with sentiment and blind support of it there of, then you are nothing but a promoter of terrorism- TERRORISM against Black citizens.

He is there as usual taking pictures that you SAI BUHARI people used to deceive people in 2015, but now it is only yourselves that are being deceived.

Three of them "scrutinizing" the budget without even 1 Byro pen, all for image sake.

Nonsense

You blind no be small....

logoscope:



I'm not trying to convert anyone. The fact that I use Christianity in my examples is only because I was formerly a Christian. I also know a bit about other religions. Its atheism vs theism, not atheism vs Christianity. You definitely have the right to your opinions.

This does not answer my question but lets leave this at this..

Might I ask of the conviction you got that resulted in your person turning towards atheism??

sonOfLucifer:

New phrase you learnt? How can you refer to a question as non sequitur?

Here's how understand non sequitur : I learnt it is a Latin phrase that means “it doesn’t follow”. Here “non” means not and “sequitur” means to follow. If that be a question, phrase of fact...so far it doesn't follow its non sequitur
I hope you get the logic

Oh, it is. Because it seems a whole lot of you think one's position on God is an option between atheism and Christianity. Atheism is the direct opposite of theism. Christianity, Islam, ATR's and the Pantheon of God's they worship are subsets of theism. So even if I happen to believe in God tomorrow, he doesn't necessarily have to be the same one who spoke to Abraham or Muhammed.

You've still not said anything and this still does not relate in anyway to the question. This is still a non sequitur.
Like I have said before, if you want to pose the argument, open up a new thread and call me into it. Its not hard to do innit??

Read above. The right school is a headache you and your fellow theists to solve. There's only one 'noGod' and many 'Gods'.. Lol.

Non sequitur, Non sequitur, Non sequitur, Non sequitur, Non sequitur, Non sequitur, Non sequitur, Non sequitur

Thanks for explaining clearly how the Quran, Bible and other Holy books came about. God never meant to go public. He's all personal, like an idea and body odor.

You love quotin' things out of context don't you?
Did you miss the part about the indirect communication?
Did you miss the part that every, I meant every one has a thesis.
If everyone has a thesis, everyone has a supervisor - thesis here could mean purpose, destiny etc.
Exactly how irrational do you reason?

sonOfLucifer:

How does Student know what school is the right school?

This is still a non sequitur

Probing whether the school is the right or wrong school was never in the equation.. This was deceptively introduced.
If you wish to know more about the right school, ask the question genuinely and separately - don't attach it to a premise it dosen't conform to

What if the Supervisor never comes out of his office, but only speaks through a PAS?

You have said nothin' here
A communication would nevertheless be established so far the student willingly leaves his comfort zone
*remember the premise states that the student stays at home*
But in this case, it would be be a waste of time , illogical and irrational to communicate the details of a student's thesis through a Public Address System (PAS).
I'm sure you know how tertiary institutions work and I am sure you know that the compilation of a thesis is singularly based i.e. Individuals within the system has a particular research study which is always particular, will always be particular to that individual and different from every others.
Therefore a Public address system would not suit such purpose as the details of the thesis passed is not meant for the public but for singular persons.

Logicbwoy:




All of your points boil down to one thing-

It is either that your God is a selective, biased and unfair being who lacks the commonsense to be universally reachable to all humans OR your God doesnt exist, which then means that you are making things up to cover the irrationality of God speaking to select people.

You're clearly shying away from the fact that you're deafened to hear of God..

Your argument is a non sequitur

But I'd still falsify your claim anyways...

Another fact is you can't even spot if God is tryin' to link one to you. Maybe tis' conversation is one of those ways of communication (indirectly).

So if God communicates through me (indirectly) to tell you that you have to establish a link with him before you can actively hear of him, them its logical to say it's you who's totally unreasonable and irrational not seein' that communication can be made directly or indirectly.

Here's an instance;

Student stays at home does not establish communication with Supervisor on how to proceed about constructing his Thesis.

Lecturer sends mate to student to inform Student he needs to establish a link of communication

Student ignores (Argues supervisor must come directly to him - he further argues the onus is on the supervisor to come down since he is the student).

Students fails at the end of the day and concludes tellin' his other mates "It is either that supervisor is a selective, biased and unfair lecturer who lacks the common sense to be institutionally reachable or that supervisor is a Ghost teacher"

Plus clearly the rule of not declarin' a negative is only applied when it suits you atheists right?

Logicbwoy:



So I'm deaf to God but some people are not?

Not only insulting but quite silly and biased.

This is in no way insultin', silly or biased.. You've rather chosen to be evasive, an act possessin' all the traits you've listed above.
I'm not dumb, I can clearly aee through your locution.

A fact that disproves your logic is this.
A knows how to drive a car, B dosen't have the knowledge on how to drive a car.
B says: "I have arms, legs, and a working brain" that's all it takes to drive a Car.
A says: you lack the skills and manipulations of such
B says: So some people can drive cars, others can't; This is insulting, biased and silly.
A: Looks at B like ***The thunder that will fire you eh!***

That aside...

It's only logical to conclude that your communication with God is deafened.
The premise of my argument would be substantiated by the followin' statements...
1. You have in no way tried to establish a communication with God?
* I know this is an absolute statement, nevertheless I still affirm it, this is because effective communication with God requires genuinety*
2. Since you have never tried to establish a communication with God, you'd lack the neccessary knowledge or know-how on how to go about communicatin' with God.
3. Since you lack the Know-how, you can't also fathom principles and laws that presides over such communication.
4. Since you lack the know-how/knowledge, your perception, view or thoufhs towards such communication is dead on arrival...

Logicbwoy:



Non-sequitur. Your argument does not follow.

I am not deaf and dumb. If your God speaks to you, then he must have a voice. A voice that has a unique sound.

You might be deaf and dumb to certain voices nevertheless..
Communication between a sender and a receiver requires a technology, a mechanism, a device that aids the translation of sound energy into data, processed by the brain and results in a meaningful information. For humans, the mechanism of communication is quite complex but automated such that we have no idea the processes that lead to the end result consciously but such is expressed simply in real time.
Communication itself is also governed by certain laws not visible to the human eye.

For instance, bats and elephants hear sounds we can't hear, that does not necessarily mean we're deaf we just lack the required mechanism to tap to such frequency or dimension as I love to put it.

The Question you should rather be askin' should be what sounds you're deaf to..

logoscope:

It's an arbitrary figure, but then its not far fetched. By the way god(s) is an anunnaki. The heaven and hell most people envision does not exist.

And how did you arrive at your claim.. I though you atheist refer to such as a Negative proposition..??

logoscope:

The fact that your god exists and is the only true god has implications and bi-implications.

Care to explain how you arrived at your claim?

Logicbwoy:



Does God really speak to you?

What does he sound like? British or Nigerian accent?

This Question sounds funny every time I hear of it.

Tell me, how would you describe the color Red to a man blind from birth.
Can you explain to me exactly how tea smells like?

Joshthefirst:

PS: Your signature says it all.

It points out the clearly - the confusion of the mind.

logoscope:

Hope for what? There is no hope. Life is meaningless. You create your own reality.

I wonder what your final statements would be like, when you're all old and ready to die. When your weak body no longer has its grasp on you and finally you see that life exist beyond this world.
Lets assume in your terms such reality exist beyond this world, all you've been told about heaven and hell was true all this while..
*** Remember we're assumin'.. ***
What then would be your thoughts..??

ButterFlyEffect:
Nice post and so true

I love your eyes... They are beautiful.

HCpaul:

He ain't a smart atheist, he should have decode.

Showed he's just as confused as many others of his Kind on Nairaland....

P0intBlank:


The Bible is filled with many fulfilled prophecies. These prophecies were not vague but in many cases detailed. Those words were spoken several years or centuries before the said events came to pass. It could only be someone who knows the end from the beginning that could do so.

Bible also contains instructions (more like a product manual where the product in this case is man). If followed, man would live a happy and fulfilled life.

No ancient book has faced as much opposition as the bible. It has suffered more vicious attacks and attempts to destroy it than any other book in history. From early Roman Emperors like Diocletian, through communist dictators and on to modern-day atheists and agnostics, the Bible has withstood and outlasted all of its attackers and is still today the most widely published book in the world. I believe it withstood these oppositions because it was divine. Whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world.




God doesn't desire a personal relationship with everything he creates - it's just man. Like you rightly said every designed product has its purpose. God desires that (personal relationship and reverence) from the product called Man. And when the product (like that Iphone) is not fulfilling the purpose for which it was designed and attempts to repair it fail, it will be discarded, shredded, burnt or destroyed . So it will be with any man who fails to fulfill the purpose for existence and does not take advantage of God's attempts to repair him.



Man is constantly seeking to make products that can interact with him. That's why everyday we get to hear of smarter and smarter gadgets which are interactive. By the time these fields (Artificial Intelligence, Brain-Computer Interface, Robotics, Speech recognition, Virtual and Argumented reality) are ripe, man would have gotten to the point where his products can fully interact with him the way he wants

A brilliant piece you have here sire....
But you have to know.....the individual you're postin' tis' to would eternally waste your time.

He's bent on followin' the wrong path inspite of warnin' s and hard facts against his evil Journey.....

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
I believe that God (of christian , Muslims, etc) does not exist

What is the basis of your believing sire?
Plus you do know you've shot yourself in the Leg right...

Skako:
illitrate,even white people they use am check if am lieing or u want d link

White islam dumbos yes...

Skako:

Dude..Stick to the purpose of the thread..
They're talkin' 'bout camel urine here and not cow urine...

Plus who the f**k drinks cow urine if not a retard...

paschu:


My brother. Some folks just argue for arguing sake. No objectivity at all.

Such is the sake of that dude... Plus did I also mention he is a Pathetic Liar..

paschu:


Suit yourself bro.

Don't take that guy serious... I've known him here on Nairaland for long..... He knows nothin'.. Believe me.. nothin'...

sikirat2020:
do we have national cows or individual cows, importation of grass is it a national concern or an individual cow owner. since we don't have national cows, using the national resources to import grass is the highest level of impunity and gross corruption. or do they mean that they will go into the importation of grass business to resale to Fulani herdsmen.
i just don't understand what Buhari asked ogbeh to say and foolishly acting the script

The imported grasses would be oversown into the already existing natural pasture. Since the species they're importing are aggressive species, they'll strive more into the dry season before the decline in quality and quantity begins.

You have no idea how long Agronomist have been pestering the government to look into this incentives. Some species of Andropogon for instance can be used to ameliorate oil spillage. Imagine if the imported grass has this trait?

The funny part about this is that the importation needs only be done once.
Grasses are mostly perennials and not like your cereal crops where you'd recurrently have to keep importing.
With their colonizing ability, they'd colonize the natural grass lands which would result in more grasses for our animals to eat.

If we have smart fellows, they'd seize the advantage and go into hay and silage production on a large scale for dry season feeding..

Princewill1:
This argurment is faulty.No explanation can justify the importation of grass at this period of time in Nigeria.Are you aware that there is shortage of forex in Nigeria? Which is presently causing the economic problems we are having today.

So we should use the little forex left to import grass for cows,instead of to import essential and stable food like rice for humans?

You consume meat, don't you.. Cattle eat grass and you eat cattle.. Either way they are importing what would provide food for you..
Importing grass would help raise the nutritional level of the grasses ruminants consume in our country.
This would in turn raise the production of meat and dairy products.
Which if properly managed would immensely boost our production sector.
The slurry and waste from gotten could be used as fertilizer inputs to replenish our soil, or for bio-gas production.
This in-turn would create a new platform for business which int-turn means more hands and inevitably more jobs.

Is like this fulani govt values the lives of cattle more than the lives of human? (Agatu massacre also comes to mind).

If you don't eat, you'll most likely run out of energy reserve which would ultimately result to death "God Forbid"..
Look at it from this perspective, the govt is importing what the animals would eat so that you can have more meat (protein) to eat.
We still import meat and meat products when we can produce what we consume. This would at least decrease the importation of this products and boost local production which is a good thing, at least from an economic perspective.

By the way,the milk issue you are talking about is a long term project.Is not like if you feed the cattle with imported grass today,then tomorrow they will start producing quantity milk that will serve the milk need of Nigeria.It will take years to develop.The milk production industry in Europe that we are importing from were not developed overnight.

Yeah!.. But they all started from somewhere. Rome wasn't built in a day remember..
But in another perspective, if you start feeding a malnourished child with good food, how long would it take the child to recover? A few months?.. The same applies to Cattle...

We expect to start from somewhere and expand as time goes one.. Remember there's always progress if things are done the right way, one of which this is.

We have emergency economic situation at hand right now,we can't afford to waste the scarce forex we have.They govt should come to the south to take grass to the north.

We have to spend our little forex based on our scale of preference,unless if this govt values cattle more than humans inhabiting the country.

The grass in the south is still of low nutritional value Pennisetum purpureum the dominant grass specie in the south east and south south cannot compete effectively with temperate grass species like the Rye grass.. In the dry season, the decline also hampers productivity in the southern region - save for the irregular rainfall distribution caused by climate and weather changes.

Ruminant animal production is a very rich venture if given attention to. The government is lookin' at maximizing productivity from that direction, in ways you cannot see. You could contact experts from Universities to give more insights into how this would go a long way to help our Economy as a whole..

ManTiger:

Nigerians cannot/should not be taken so seriously on things like this. I can bet it with you, this is another scam in the making. My apologies for using a sensitive obscure word.

The dominant Panicum maximum in the southern part of Nigeria was imported.. Many of the grasses we see today and feed our animals with were imported.
I understand your viewpoint from the corrupt practices of past govt agencies... But if the intended is implemented, a whole lot of good would have been done.

I am a Pasture Agronomist however, probably that's why I see a lot of good in the idea..

JealousPrince:

.
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Oga go and sit down.

Only if you would sacrifice the time to read the article

gsparks01:
now i see d extent to which d oppositon hates d present administration... D truth is even if u beg these esignorami to read this article till tomorrow, you'll just be wasting ur breath. In their minds, whatever is done by this administration is rubbish and adds no value to the citizens even when d facts state otherwise.
OPPOSITION IS NOT FOOLISHNESS!

I tell you my Brother..

ManTiger:

So they will import grass, refrigerate it so as not to withered and start selling it to the abokis abi? , i'm not sorry to say this, you be mumu.

Nope.. They would import the grasses (highly aggressive one's) and incorporate it into the existing natural pasture (This transforms the Natural Pasture lands to what we called oversown Pasture lands)
That way the we would have less of the UN-improved varieties and more of the improved over-sown varieties. Which would last longer into the dry season.
Smart Individuals like your person who would see this as an advantage can go into Hay and Silage Making and sell the conserved grasses to the fulani's in the dry season..
When the fulani's see that stationary farming improves the milk production, beef production, profit and reduces the stress of Walking around, they'll finally settle and stop killing.. I'm not saying it is going to be an instantaneous process, but we have to start from somewhere..

And they don't refrigerate grasses... As a matter of fact, refrigerating it might kill it...

Everyone knew Obj was about to scam us when he proposed his satellite idea, 8 months after its launching, they claim it disappear.

I dey look GEJ mouth when he was saying SURE-P will cushion the effect of pms subsidy removal, I only pity those idiats I see in their lagos office, 4yrs after, Babangida Aliyu said SURE-P was fraud which is obviously true.

We don't say they shouldn't steal, afterall "stealing is not corruption" but if they must ten they should come up with convincing ideas, not like importing grass! Who will buy it? The industry is not even controlled by anyone, com'on use your brain!

@Bolded.. I think they talked about this in @OP.. The phrase was as this "An industry that cannot be measured, cannot be controlled"..

I understand that OP was lengthy, but you wont fully understand without readin'.....
Pasture Agronomist like myself are smilin' to this incentive

stevedre:
You made some good points which I must say are valid. I am not a nutritionist but I would suggest we import what the Brazilians used in multiplying the nutrients in their grass rather than importing the grass.

Most Tropical grasses don't have seeds that are Viable... If the grass is aggressive enough, it would start to re-grow anywhere it drops..

When Malaysia took our palm oil ideas they went for our Palm fruits not our Palm trees so how about importing chemicals or fertilizers that will multiply and enrich the grasses wasting in the south then move most to the north

Fertilizing grasses dosen't necessary mean you'd yield the desired output. Fertilization regimes might help boost yield, but not neccessary quality which is lacking

Thereby creating jobs and helping our economy to grow instead of importing grass which I know will be left to dry if care is not taking due to corruption in high places. I would like you to correct me if I am wrong, thanks.

Like stated earlier, the grasses would not dry if aggressive enough.
Development, conserving and utilization of grasses is an untapped gold mine only if youths would look into it. Conserving grasses as hay and silage and selling in the dry season would go a long way to create Jobs. The funny thing is that you get the already free pasture available following the due process of conservation and you're your own boss..

I sold Hay during my service year in benue..

Mboi:

That is the problem we have, a lot of dead brains like you all over Nigeria. Knowing how to read and write is not wisdom. The old SSCE holder u voted knows even if your parents send u to University, you'll still reason like a pupil. It's only a clueless and insensitive unrepentant old man that they made a President that will leave the pressing issues in his country and be cooking up stories and reasons so he can import grasses for his cows. Zombie will always be Zombie.

The importation of Grass will solve the Fulani issue... Which is also an impending problem we Face..
You have to understand everythin' must and can't be political..

Pidggin:


Okay, i want to know why they can't just import samples and then modify them, why spend millions importing, instead of bringing in samples

It doesn't work like that ma'am, Unless you've worked with grasses before - you'll understand well the statement

The modifications you suggested would cost them much more than importing the grasses..this however has not taken into account the years of research and development that would yield the intended result - which would gulp about 20 years of time.

Let me give an illustration of why few samples might not be so visible..

Some traits and attributes of a good grass are 1. It has the ability to colonize an area. 2. It is highly digestible (has a lower retention time in the rumen). 3. It contains the require chemical constituents in the correct amounts 4. Its perrenial (long lived) 5. Drought tolerant

Prof. Mrs. A. O. Jolaosho sometimes back brought a modified grass Panicum maximum var Ntchisi back in about 2006 or thereabout from Kenya.. She brought few sample of the promising grass.
I can affirmatively tell you that in spite of the its aggressiveness and high level of productivity the grass entails, it has not fully colonized the University in which she brought it...

That's why the massive importation might be of better help.. It would also open up new business lines in terms of conservation when there's excess in the rainy season for use in the dry season for year round feeding..

This incentive however the case would be of great help..