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to be the predator or the prey ? the wheat or the chaff ? the hunter or the hunted ? the hungry or the fed ? the winner or the loser ?

Ihedinobi: You know, predestination as an eternal principle says nothing like that at all. It only declares God's right and responsibility to "organise" His Creation. You do it everytime you sort through your papers or working material. I know it quite intimately in my own work where I birth ideas that I know I will discard.

But predestination is just one side of the coin, just like I said earlier. Choice is the other. You are told that if you thirst, if you hunger, if you will have, if you believe, you will receive. Therefore, as far as our own side of things is concerned, we might as well not have been destined to a certain end before time. If we reach this way or that, that's what we'll get.

What I'm saying is that God has predestined, yes, as it is His prerogative to do, but we will come into our predetermined destinies (including your reading this comment, Delafruita) by the choices we make.

Oh, and Mr Anony agrees with some things: me...and the Bible too.

Mehn....where are our brothers?

all you are doing here is giving your own vain opinions and private interpretations. you have not quoted one scripture to back anything you have said.

2 peter 1 vs 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation

isaiah 8 vs 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. you are not speaking according to the bible so there is no light in you. like i said previously you are in slumber.

ecclesiasticus 3 vs 24[b] For many are deceived by their own vain opinion;[/b] thats all you have been doing. giving your own vain opinions and not speaking according to the word and offering your own private interpretations.

1 thessalonians 5 vs 21 prove all things

Delafruita: therez this thing christians do before cracking open the bible,they ask the holy spirit to teach and instruct.you should try it

thats rich coming from a belligerent heathen who does not believe in God. your words are akin to the turd in the commode.

lekkie073: i have noticed a perceptional view equating atheists and agnostics in most forums. While an atheist disbelieves the existence of a supreme being, an agnostic is a person who is undecided about the existence of a supreme being....in otherwords, if a religioner is on the right and an atheist is on the left, the agnostic is midpoint......

WHO CARES. THEY ARE BOTH THE SAME. THEY ARE BOTH REPROBATE SHORT SIGHTED DEMONIC DOCTRINES. ALL THESE DEMONIC NICCAS TRYNA FEEL IMPORTANT WITH NAME TAGS GTFO

Ihedinobi: I see your point, Mr Anony...

buzugee, abeg no vex o. Na me fin trouble o.

blinded and loquacious azz nicca. nicca you been put to sleep. time to awake from your slumber.
ROMANS 13 VS 11[b] And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.[/b]
YOU AINT GOT THAT LUXURY OF BEEING IN SLUMBER ANYMORE IHEDINOBI. TIME TO WAKE UP

vessel of wrath fitted for destruction-romans 9 vs 22


There be spirits that are created for vengeance, which in their fury lay on sore strokes; in the time of destruction they pour out their force, and appease the wrath of him that made them. ecclesiasticus 39 vs 28

The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. proverbs 16 vs 4

musKeeto: too much haze on this thread...

sticky icky purple haze. that good cali shyttt.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Oga, wetin you wan make I talk? E be like say you never sabi the guy. If I follow buzugee begin argue today, we go just derail the thread comot.
I don't hold his views at all but I didn't want to disagree with him neither did I agree. I no just get the guy time.
buzugee can say some very bizzare things if you engage him. At least I appreciate the fact that he cared to comment even though I don't agree with him at all.[/quote]seems you never agree with anything. what exactly do you agree with ? seems you have no opinions at all.

Ihedinobi: Seriously, I thought that reincarnation part at least was weird

you spent 21 years trying to be a christian yet you never for once saw 'reincarnation' in your bible ? you are just a reprobate and pugnacious nicca. you been put to sleep. spiritual sleep that is. read ROMANS 11 VS 7. that describes you perfectly. blinded azz nicca lol

truthislight: This guy is Xter. Very funny.

He quotes scriptures alot, sometimes makes sense some times he gets it completely wrong.
The scriptures just quoted may apply but not on this thread, and this topic.

Guy, take it easy.
Lol.
It a public forum anyway. Anything goes.

triple post

truthislight: This guy is Xter. Very funny.

He quotes scriptures alot, sometimes makes sense some times he gets it completely wrong.
The scriptures just quoted may apply but not on this thread, and this topic.

Guy, take it easy.
Lol.
It a public forum anyway. Anything goes.

triple post

truthislight: This guy is Xter. Very funny.

He quotes scriptures alot, sometimes makes sense some times he gets it completely wrong.
The scriptures just quoted may apply but not on this thread, and this topic.

Guy, take it easy.
Lol.
It a public forum anyway. Anything goes.

that dusty book lying in your cupboard that has the spelling B -I B-L-E on it, try cracking it open once in a while and actually reading it instead of looking at the pictures.

cyrexx: ^^
Jewish racism, reincarnation..

Men, what the hell have you been smoking.

Who or what are you.

your worst nightmare. the constant reminder of what a reprobate you are

ROMANS 1 VS 16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

jews first. then gentiles.

ijawkid: Lol...

Na person na....

Person no suppose get name??..
Lol....

But my bro try look the thing well....

I don't have a problem with how people pronounce or spell that name...

YAHAWAH,YAHWEH,JEHOVAH.....all are extracted from the tetragrammaton....

no be person ooooo.

well your choices are yours but your goings are the lords. proverbs 20 vs 24 A man's steps are directed by the LORD. How then can anyone understand his own way?

with regards to the elect. there are two partitions under the sun ( earth ). the two partitions are ISRAELITES and GENTILES. the first part of the partition has had their turn to prove themselves and the ones who followed the laws to the best of their abilities and studied to show themselves approved were chosen as the elect while the rest of the israelites were thrown into spiritual darkness. they will remain in this darkness till christ returns ( romans 11 vs 25 ). however the elect will be spiritually alive till christ returns and when they get reincarnated with each life they get to be spiritually alive. like if a baby is born and the soul in him is the soul of the elect, the lord will guide his steps to the point where he will recieve remembrance of who he is as an elect member of the lords kingdom.

the gentile part of the partition is now in their salvation ( romans 11 vs 11 ). this is their chance to show themselves worthy to the lord. this is their era. as such the gentiles dont have an elect yet amongst them because they only got written into the law with the new testament. so this is their era to prove that they are worthy of election.

so with regards to your question, are the elects predetermined ? the elect of israel has been predetermined but not the elect for the gentiles. the elect of the gentiles will be determined when christ returns.

ijawkid: Buzugee....u mean God is nameless??

I think jenwitemi is right on this issue....

I AM is not a name....

Yahawah is a name of a person ,and that person is God........

U can't tell me that when ever d expression "" I AM"" is used then it must refer to Yahawah.....

It doesn't sound well......

Moses demanded a name from God to tell d isrealites and a name he was given....Yahawah.Yahweh.Jehovah....all correct....

@ 1st the LORD wuldnt divulge his name,but later he did...

And it is that name,which is the tetragrammaton that appears over 7000 times in d hebrew scriptures.......

lol so you think an immortal spiritual being has a name ? carry go

ijawkid: Ur welcome.....

I like ur thought on this issue,,,

Oya this is d last time I'll give u my email for us to chat....d next time I remind u I'll send bokoharam along with it...lol

Email me now on::
wagskehinde@yahoo.com

I'm waiting bro...

LOL abeg no send boko haram

and i apologize if i am being rude but you were being rude too LOL. scripture do say it is a righteous thing to recompense those who trouble you 2 thessalonian 1 vs 6

when i say the trinity doctrine is biblical i dont mean christ and the lord are the same people . all i am saying is it takes 3 for the communication between earth and heaven to be accomplished
1-the father
2-the blood of the son
3-the holy spirit in man.

so the father is not the son. thats just crazy talk. they are 2 different seperate entities.

Jenwitemi: He does not have a name, yet you go on to say that his name is I AM or YAHAWAH? Is that not a name? Haven't you pigeon hole him already? Make up your mind and stop going round in circles, dude.

i see i am dealing with someone who lacks critical thinking skills. I AM means HE IS LIFE. its not a name. its a title sort of. I AM in the original hebrew tongue that abraham and moses spoke in , is YAHAWAH. if you choose to see it as a name, its up to you. either way, this is what he refers to himself as.

ijawkid: I understand u completely......

Father was pierced in a spiritual sense...

While Yehshua d son was pierced physically....

The truth is many have falsely explained this verse to mean Yahawah was d one who was physically pierced and killed ,all to prove d trinity doctrine that Jesus is d almighty God......

Then I ask can the almighty die??

hey you do know scripture says there will be heresies in the last days. i reiterate for final emphasis. yes Father was pierced by the rejection of his word. Son was pierced for being the deliverer of the word.

the trinity doctrine is in a way biblical but it shouldnt be focused on the way some people focus on it. it should not be a point of focus. basically there must be constant uninterrupted communication between the father and the world so he can continue to direct things on earth as he wants things to be. this constant-uninterrupted communication is achieved by the trinity of the father, the son christ who when he died for the israelites caused spiritual ressurection of the elect of the israelites through whom God controls things on earth, and the third part of the trinity is the holy spirit in the israelites ( every spirit in man is bipartisan. there is a holy side and a satanic side ). the holy spirit in man, the blood of christ, and the father make up the trinity that ensure constant uninterrupted communication between the heavenly realm and the earthly physical realm. thats all it is. the catholic church place too much emphasis on it. they have taken it to a form of idolatry

Jenwitemi: The jewish deity was confronted with a pesky jew demanding to know his name and he sidestepped him by telling him that he is what he is and that has turned to his name? Oh man!

If i don't want to tell you my name, buzugee, i would probably tell you the same thing. "I AM WHO I AM", as my first name. And, "SO STOP ASKING ME S.T.U.P.I.D QUESTIONS", you might as well take that as my surname. My name would then be, for short, I AM SO STOP!!

you still dont get it. the lord does not have a name. you cant pigeon hole him with a name. he has no name. so what he was trying to tell moses by saying 'i am' sent you, is that he is everything you see in the universe. i am the whole world. i am the universe. i am the creator. i am the be all and end all. i am the beginning and the end. gerrit ? so he has no physical name, so we call him 'i am' meaning he encompasses everything in life. its what he calls himself and it is what we will call him. I AM. YAHAWAH

ijawkid: So u mean that Yehshua been pierced indirectly means Yahawah was pierced too since Yehshua was his representative??

Is that what u mean??

Nope this is what i mean. Yahawah was not pierced indirectly. he is pierced directly anytime any of his children reject his word. then Christ was pierced directly for the word ( physically ). SO THE POINT HERE IS THEY WERE BOTH PIERCED. one was pierced by you rejecting his word, the other was physically pierced. so what that verse is attempting to tell you is the lord telling you they will look upon him whom they have pierced by looking at his son whom they physically pierced. because the physical manifestation of the son in the last days will be proof that God exists. so by seeing the son, you are looking at the son whom you pierced physically and the father whom you pierced spiritually by rejecting his word.

Jenwitemi: You are not in your mind either. "I AM WHO I AM" is not a name and the jewish deity never said it was his name. Please wake up and reread what you wrote.

God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

'I AM' has sent me to you. i think that is self explanatory

Jenwitemi: I AM is not a name, buzugee.

i see you done finally lost whats left of your mind bruh

exodus 3 vs 14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

ijawkid: Buzugee o.....

What's d difference between Yahawah,Yahweh and Jehovah??

there is no J in the hebrew alphabet so the name Jesus and Jehovah is a roman catholic invention as well as yahweh. they are all heathen inventions. roman catholic

LagosShia: no i dont agree.

it would have being far better had an atheist (not a christian) raise these questions.you got one finger pointing at others while the four remaining are pointing back at you.

christian groups that evangelize or in other words go hunting or fishing for souls,are not the most charitable people in the world.you do not need to help people and then try to shove the bible down their throats.in fact all the money you spend trying to fish or hunt souls especially ones that are uneducated or ignorant of religious matters,can be spent helping poor people.

these institutions you are talking about are just means or rather traps to lure the unsuspecting.the christian evangelist who proselytise has more tricks than a 419 criminal.

if you want to preach and you really believe you have the truth,you should bring your priests or bishops and the most knowledgable among your learned men to a muslim city,country or community to hold a public dialogue or debate with the most knowledgeable and learned of the muslims.in that way people can know which of the two is best.you don't go about propagating lies and using tricks and then ask if that is allowed or permitted.is lying allowed in christianity? if not,then why do you want us to accept that? if fake publicity is illegal then why should we accept it? there is a well defined method in Islam to preach and freedom to do so.but harassing vulnerable preys who could be unlearned or ignorant and looking for loopholes to exploit is not freedom to preach but exploitation.i have christian friends who preach.and what they do,is to look for the "vulnerable" they see as "having a willing spirit to receive the message".if they meet a muslim who wants to engage them,they refuse and excuse themselves.that is dishonest and shameful.

allahu akbar my islamic brother. how is the ramadan going ?

Jenwitemi: Pap water na still pap. Whether it is Yahweh or Yahawah, they are one and the same. Leave the name game play for children.

I may as well call him SANGO if the name is not important. scripture says And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved JOEL 2 VS 32. that name is important bruh. we aint worshipping no yahweh. Yahawah is the name of the lord. scripture says he said 'I AM'. I AM is then translated in the original hebrew language called lashawan qadash and that means YAHAWAH. get the name right