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Drop your number.

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Christ said if they persecute you in one city FLEE to another.

Folly to stay where you know death is certain when you have a choice.
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bashbabe2:
Stop bloody wasting your time with islam and Muslims . When you have successfully prevented your fellow christians from leaving and becoming athiest then come and preach to us.These are people that need to be preached to. They are not convinced and more confused about Christianity and You are opening irrelevant islamic thread to people who by Allah's will are on the right path. You are such a deluded and jobless somebody
There are many attributes of Allah that are better than the word love. And there is a name of Allah that means love. T
AL-WADÛD The Loving One

It shows you are a liar and an attention seeker. stop embarrassing yourself on a public forum

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So in very deed there's no single verse commanding love in the quaran and you still choose to slavishly follow this dark part. Now I know why occult members will still remain there even though they know they serve the devil.
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Bailyy:
fast

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Confirmed Nairaland thief.
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So these very women that dress half nude most times are the ones inspiring us to dress better?
Op I expected something better from this thread.

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I see Al - Taqiyyah lies every where just to cover up a bloody movement.

Astutechris:
Android One phone is available in Nigeria. Infinix Hot 2 was lunch in Nigeria 2 days ago. That is on August 18.

OP stop misinforming people cos the 1Gb for N500 is just for 1 year on the infinix hot 2

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OP IS A HATER WITH PURE BIAS.

Hypocrisy. When they allow and are taught all sorts of hostility and subjugation against their women in practice. They support adult marriage and painful intercourse with girl minors even when the girl yell and bleed for pain.


Of all the punishment that Islam recommends for crimes, what is the punishment for a man that beats his wife, denies her provision & finance or has extra marital affairs, or even for a man that marries or has intercourse with minors? I guess none.



Yet so many punishment unleashed against a woman for any trivial offense.



FILTHY HYPOCRICY!!!

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Muslim migrants are certainly a future threat to their host communities.

Nations should face this fact without any sentiments whatsoever.

Who wants turbulence in their peaceful community.

There's no love in that evil religion. Its 100% bitterness, hate,bloodshed. If a Muslim ever shows love its only because he saw a Christian examplify it. Yet at that many of them respond to love with suspicion, aggression and violence cos the concept is so foreign to them.

abduljabbar4:
Big blow to the haters of Islam esp lieman2012

No big blow anywhere. Malvisguy212 clearly and concisely exposed the lies in the interpretation. Besides the life of your prophet who killed and raped and encouraged other followers to kill and rape minors and innocent people says it all.

truthman2013:
References:

[1] An Enemy We Created: The Myth of the Taliban-Al Qaeda Merger in Afghanistan By Alex Strick van Linschoten and Felix Kuehn page 429
[2] Messianic Beliefs and Imperial Politics in Medieval Islam: The ʻAbbāsid Caliphate in the Early Ninth Century [Copyright 2009] By Hayrettin Yücesoy page 37 – 38
[3] Muslim and Western Travelers in search of knowledge Journeys to the Other Shore [Copyright 2006] By Roxanne L.Euben page 267
[4] See Ibn Kathir, Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Beirut: Dar al-Fikr, 1986), volume, page 227 – 229.
[5] Arabic-English Dictionary of Qur’anic Usage: By Elsaid M. Badawi and Muhammad Abdel Haleem page 693
[6] Arabic-English Lexicon by Edward William Lane (London: Willams & Norgate 1863) Book 1, page 2335

source

truthman..

For all I care any blood thirsty muslim can interprete those verses however they wish to justify their bloodshed and still be right. That's what Muhammed did in real life and that's what Isis and radicals do all over the world.

Those verses are so open ended and filled with ambiguity that they can become whatever any muslim wants them to be.

malvisguy212:
@truthman2013.
You did not explained anything here, muhammed and his followers had just entered Medina before this verse was revealed, quran 2:191 was revealed and the meccan are not planing to attack :
(Bukhari29:72, Muslim 7:3145)
Allah's Apostle ENTERED MECCA in the
year of its Conquest wearing an
Arabian helmet on his head and
when the Prophet took it off, a
person came and said, "Ibn Khatal is
holding the covering of the Ka'ba
(taking refuge in the Ka'ba)." The
Prophet said, "KILL HIM."

Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). Infacte it was the muslims who first draw the first blood:

Abu Waqqas picked up a camel’s
jawbone and struck a local polytheist
who was “rudely interrupting” his group
of praying Muslims. "This was the first
blood to be shed in Islam" (Ibn Ishaq/
Hisham 166).

The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do NOT APPEAR in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean
disbelief, or the disorder that results
from unbelief or temptation. This is
certainly what is meant in this context
since the violence is explicitly
commissioned "UNTIL RELIGION IS FOR Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them
wherever you find them, and turn them
out from where they have turned you
out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is
worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.) "

The verse prior to this (190) refers to
"fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families.

Come to think of it , if it was the meccan that first attack the muslims, do you need a revelation from Allah to attack back ? For muhammed to enter Mecca settled down and have his revelation indicate its was the muslims that first attack the meccan.

Historians do not record any act of
aggression by the Meccans against the
Muslims during the time at which the
second sura was narrated by
Muhammad. There were no armies
marching against them, nor any plans for such. The Meccans had no influence in this far-away town, and Muslims were
not under persecution at the time by any stretch of the term as it is popularly
understood today. According to the
sequence of events in the Sira (biography), the Meccans were quite
content with leaving Muhammad alone
following his eviction (even though he
had made a pledge of war against them).

Kudos for refuting the bloody liars. For all I care any blood thirsty muslim can interprete those verses however they wish to justify their bloodshed and still be right. That's what Muhammed did in real life and that's what Isis and radicals do all over the world.

Those verses are so open ended and filled with ambiguity that they can become whatever any muslim wants them to be.

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adewalker:
. And where in egypt saudi arabia,pakistan e.t.c do they kill and rape women,have u ever heard christians say they are being killed in those country,pls let's talk with knowledge,this is a forum,and u are meant to come here with facts not lies or to get quick minutes fame,pls try come up with something worth presenting in public,that u can stand on.

Christians are being killed and churches are being burnt in Egypt. Google can tell you better. Saudi Arabia have already ran Christianity to a near zero hence there's no need to kill people they've already erased.

Beremx:
I heard from someone that urine can cure hepatitis and some other ailments.

Wonderful!

Isn't it a curse for humans to descend so low to drink their own urine. People should rather embrace death with honor that plummeting to that subhuman level.

What if we are told to eat the kidney of a fellow human being to receive cure or drink the blood of a rotten dead man or eat the organs of a baby all in the name of a cure.

Even if these wierd methods truly provide cure is it right to embrace it? Sometime ago HIV patients were told to have sex with a virgin to get cured. That way they infect innocent uninfected people. Its wrong.

Armed Robber of the highest disorder.

Flye:
Seun I have used report button several times on this woman only to d nd her the next day.

It's not a woman. It's a man under the hood.

tyuhd:
I've been contemplating celebacy for awhile and as Christ said,Luke 9:62 “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the Kingdom of God.”So I wouldn't want to begin in the spirit and end up in the flesh.So Brethren,I need advice,suggestion and some insights i never thought about and if possible some demerits of the married state to encourage me.

If you are CERTAIN that God said do it and he gave you extraordinary ability to do it then go ahead but if otherwise then desist. Let me give you clues to determining if you have the ability:-
1. Do you experience any kind of lust? How often if yes.
2. Have you ever desired or admired marriage or those that are married.
3. Are you attracted to the beauty of having kids?
4. Are you attracted to the opposite sex?
5. What type of movies or songs appeal to you? Do they include emotional love songs?
6. Are you a virgin but eager to end your virginity?
7. Have you experienced sexual intercourse and maybe was impressed by it and somehow want it to happen again?

If your answer is probably yes to most of these questions then I'll sincerely request you abandon any thought of celibacy cos it'll cause serious problems for you along the way.

Why can't folks just make this fuelless generators and sell in commercial quantities if indeed this stuff is genuine.More than 5 years since this fuelless generator manual thing without a single evidence of the actual product gives rise to suspicion of a hoax.

upperman:
A pastor friend of mine told me something dat got my head spinning.He said the general overseer of his church had called for a meeting with all branch pastors. As always, a lot was discussed.What really steered the tide was when the Bishop decided to test the sagasity of his pastors by asking them what their thoughts were regarding the report he got about a pastor who was alleged to have committed sodomy with a ten year old.some of them suggested he should be arrested by the police while others opined that a deliverance session be conducted for him and thereafter he be suspended or even expelled from the ministry.
After all the religious imbroglio at the meeting, the Bishop asked a simple question."We are all in the presence of the Lord and you dare not lie to Him,please raise your hand if you have not slept with another woman s[/color][color=#006600]ince the day you were ordained as a pastor in this ministry".Much to my friend's bewilderment only one man of all the thirty something pastors was bold enough to raise his hand.To cut a long story, the Bishop,after tongue-lashing the pastors for being so hypocritical told them he would investigate and afterwards take a decision.
Fellow NLders,from what we seen so far,is it true according to one evangelist,that Jesus has not returned to earth because there are no righteous people to take back to heaven?

Op, Sincerely the problem is not with pastors as a whole rather the problem is with the gospel of this very church in question.


Pastors of churches that preach loose and liberal gospels are generally wayward & sinful while pastors of churches that are thorough righteousness preachers are more disciplined.

How can you expect a church that preaches eternal security "once saved, forever saved" gospel to produce righteous pastors and members?

Their gospel gives them authorisation to sin since they believe God has already forgiven them for all sins they can ever commit.

PhockPhockMan:
Hypocrite, what's wrong with my moniker?
Are you God to judge me?



Mtcheeeewww.

I didn't expect anything better from a dead conscience. It's like expecting remorse from the devil.

PhockPhockMan:
Without hands and legs, this lady still finds God worthy to be praised and worshipped.




WHAT OF YOU?

What an irony. By your username you clearly mock God to His very face though He spared your own hands and feet and now you have the impetus to still open a thread of one without hands and feet praising God.

I fear your brazen, adamant, God disdaining heart.

Rubbish! Hypocrisy! How does such teachings agree with all the hate,slaughter, bloodshed, rape, slavery, marriage to underaged kids, that fills the Koran and hadiths,that defined the life of your prophet, that true muslims copy worldwide.

Forever I can never be deceived by all the white washing of a wicked, hostile, bloodletting religion.

I've used this stuff and can testify certainly that it doesn't work. It destroyed my generator.