₦airaland Forum

lotusflower:
See ehn,dey weren't reading 4rm d quran. I know d quran well. Which verse of d quran were dey reciting? If I go out dere and shout 'Jesus is lord' then kill some1,does it make me a xtian or mean dat I'm reading 4rm d bible? NO. Dese pple r killing innocent pple in d name of jihad and no part of d quran talked about sword,bomb or killing pple. Dey obviously know nothing 'bou d quran. A part of d quran (109:6)- "for u is ur religion and for me is mine" Allah said dat we shud not enforce islam on anyone. D quran is a guide on how 2 live our lives. Dey r ignorant,dnt bliv bokoharam 2 b acting on d commands of d quran,its a big lie!

Muslim (20 : 4645 ) – “…He (the Messenger of
Allah) did that and said: There is another act
which elevates the position of a man in Paradise
to a grade one hundred (higher ) , and the
elevation between one grade and the other is
equal to the height of the heaven from the earth .
He (Abu Sa’ id) said: What is that act ? He
replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the
way of Allah!”
Muslim (20 : 4696 ) – “ the Messenger of Allah
(may peace be upon him ) said : ‘ One who died
but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he
express any desire (or determination) for Jihid
died the death of a hypocrite . '”
Muslim (19 : 4321 - 4323) – Three separate hadith
in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that
innocent children were killed in a raid by his
men against unbelievers . His response: “ They
are of them (meaning the enemy ). ”
Tabari 7 : 97 The morning after the murder of
Ashraf , the Prophet declared , “ Kill any Jew who
falls under your power . ” Ashraf was a poet,
killed by Muhammad ’ s men because he insulted
Islam . Here, Muhammad widens the scope of
his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish
businessman was then slain by his Muslim
partner, merely for being non- Muslim.
Tabari 9 : 69 “ Killing Unbelievers is a small
matter to us ” The words of Muhammad , prophet
of Islam .
Ibn Ishaq : 327 – “ Allah said , ‘ A prophet must
slaughter before collecting captives. A
slaughtered enemy is driven from the land .
Muhammad , you craved the desires of this
world, its goods and the ransom captives would
bring . But Allah desires killing them to manifest
the religion . ’”.......yet no verse in the Quran preach killing?

lotusflower:
My dear,dey weren't reciting 4rm d quran. Dey were speaking arabic,which is js a language. Often tyms,it pays to ignore religious articles because many pple r out dere 2 paint islam black nd bring hatred btw muslims nd christians. Really,in both religions,dere r bad pple so wen talking abt terrorism,lets put religion aside. Anybody can be a terrorist. Know dat,most of us r in a religion because we were born into it.Islam is a religion of peace.Salam & shaloum both mean peace

they weren't reciting from the kuran? u obviously avnt watched d video, even d attackers of d recent Paris killings shouted "allahu akbar" while shooting their victims....Islam is a truly a religion of peace and dey'll kill u just to prove it's a religion of peace......know allah no peace, no allah know peace

I can't but notice when atheists engage in debates with
Christians on dis forum the two sides invariably
exchange insults before becoming even more
militant than they previously were. Neither
party intends to strengthen the resolve of
the other, although both sides usually
manage to sooth their egos as part of the
process.
Asking a difficult question can achieve
better results because it taps into the
Christian's desire to share the wisdom they
perceive themselves to have. Any reflex for
angry disagreement is quashed and replaced
by an obligation to think their answer
through. Ultimately, thought is what an
atheist should be trying to elicit. By asking
the right questions, one can determine the
direction that such thought takes...here are few of the questions I'd like to ask

Regarding World Religion:
If a hundred different religions have to be
wrong for yours to be right, does this show
that people from all over the world like to
invent gods that don’t exist?
If your parents had belonged to a different
religion, do you think you would belong to
that religion too?
If people from the five major religions are
told conflicting information by their
respective gods, should any of them be
believed?

Regarding Communication with God:
How can you tell the voice of God from a
voice in your head?
How can you tell the voice of God from the
voice of the Devil?
Would you find it easier to kill someone if
you believed God supported you in the act?
If God told you to kill an atheist, would
you?

Regarding Morality:
When an atheist is kind and charitable out
of the kindness of his heart, is his behavior
more or less commendable than a religious
man who does it because God instructed him
to?
If you are against the Crusades and the
Inquisition, would you have been burned
alive as a heretic during those events?
If your interpretation of a holy book causes
you to condemn your ancestors for having a
different interpretation, will your
descendants condemn you in the same way?
Rape wasn't always a crime in the Middle
East two thousand years ago. Is that why
`do not rape’ is not part of the Ten
Commandments?
Do animals need `god-given' morality to
understand how to care for their young, co-
operate within a pack, or feel anguish at
the loss of a companion? Why do we?
If an organized religion requires a
civilization in which to spread, how could
this civilization exist without first having a
moral code to make it civil?

Regarding the Characteristics of God:
An all-knowing God can read your mind, so
why does he require you to demonstrate your
faith by worshiping him?
If God is all-knowing, why do holy books
describe him as surprised or angered by the
actions of humans? He should have known
what was going to happen, right?
An all-knowing God knows who will
ultimately reject him. Why does God create
people who he knows will end up in hell?
If God is all-knowing, then why did he
make humans, knowing that he’d eventually
have to send Jesus to his death?
Why did a supposedly omnipotent God take
six days to create the universe, and why did
he require rest on the seventh day?
Is omnipotence necessary to create our
universe when a larger, denser universe
would have required more power?

Regarding the Bible:
Why are Churches filled with riches when
Jesus asked his followers to give their
wealth away?
While in the desert, Jesus rejected the
temptations of the Devil. He didn't censor
or kill the Devil, so why are Christians so in
favor of censoring or condemning many
Earthly temptations?
Given that the story of Noah’s Ark was
copied almost word-for-word from the much
older Sumerian Epic of Atrahasis , does this
mean that our true ruler is the supreme sky
god, Anu?

Regarding Religious Conversion:
If your desire is to convert atheists so that
they become more like you, do you think
that you’re currently better than them?
If religious people don’t respect their
children’s right to pick their own religion,
how can society expect religious people to
respect anyone’s right to freedom of
religion?
If missionaries from your religion should be
sent to convert people in other countries,
should missionaries from other religions be
sent to your country for the same reason?
If children are likely to believe in Santa
Claus and fairies, does this explain why
religion has been taught to children for
thousands of years?
When preachers and prophets claim to be
special messengers of God, they often
receive special benefits from their followers.
Does this ever cause you to doubt their
intentions?

Regarding Miracles:
When you declare a miracle, does this mean
you understand everything that is possible
in nature?
If a woman was cured of cancer by means
unknown to us, and everyone declared it a
miracle, would the chance of scientifically
replicating this cure be more or less likely?
If humans declared fire to be a miracle
thousands of years ago, would we still be
huddling together in caves while we wait
for God to throw another lightning bolt into
the forest?
If God gave a man cancer, and the Devil
cured him to subvert God’s plan, how would
you know it wasn't a divine miracle? What
if he was an unkind, atheist, homosexual?

Regarding Hell:
Should an instruction to convert to your
religion upon the threat of eternal torture
in hell be met with anything other than
hostility?
Can a mass murderer go to heaven for
accepting your religion, while a kind doctor
goes to hell for not?
Did the mass murdering Crusaders and
Inquisitors make it into the Christian
heaven?
How can we know what is right when we
don’t know for sure who makes it into
heaven and hell?
If aliens exist on several worlds that have
never heard of your god, will they all be
going to hell when they die?


The Promises of Religion:
If someone promised you eternal life, the
protection of a loving super being, a feeling
of moral righteousness, a purpose for living,
answers to all the big questions, and a rule
book for achieving the pinnacle of human
potential, all in exchange for having faith
in something that wasn't proven, would you
be suspicious?
If someone promised to give you a billion
dollars after ten years but only if you
worshiped them until that time, would you
believe them? If someone promised you
eternal life upon death, but only if you
spent your life worshiping a god, would you
believe them?
Why does religion appeal more to poor,
weak, vulnerable, young, ill, depressed, and
ostracized people? Could religious promises
be more of a temptation to these people?....

Smartoscope007:
Subuhannalah! (perfection be to allah alone) did you mean the HOLY SPIRIT? let it fall on ur family ........ i don't need it .......... embrace islam and be save'd................. stOp doing /practising some things that there's no knowledge for it... in ya novel... i mean bible....

and ur religion and it's novel is any better??

parisbookaddict:
First correction, Jesus is not a prophet.. and there is nothing like xian..


U are not reading my posts.... i agree that there is described violence in the OT... if u have a problem read the context and understand why it happened...

I am a Christian under the new law as taught by Jesus.

If u think that the bible teaches only acceptance of everything then u havent read it.... Gods judgement is as terrifying as his forgiveness is complete thru christ. ..

Islam/quran gives PRESCRIPTIVE brutal commands to kill rape molest that are not in OT...
Eg sex with slaves , sleeping with children, beating women, kidnapping captives for slavery, raping captives, extortion of tax from infidels, waging jihad, promises of sex in paradise ...etc all approved in the quran but not in the Old Testament talkless of the new testament....


Lets be honest, the quran is the antithesis of the Bible. .

yeah yeah. it's the exact opposite I wont argue with you on dat but I know truth is not hard to kill, and a lie well told
is immortal and had d Abrahamic religion not existed to seize power
when it did (and assuming no horrid analog
arose in its place to do so), we would be
living now in a world 1500 years more
technologically and scientifically
advanced--and 1500 years more politically
and socially advanced. We would not be
struggling in every domain of our lives with
the wreckage of inhuman attitudes about
sexuality or social justice or liberty,
inhuman attitudes entrenched in our culture
and thus our psyches solely because of
it. All the battles we are fighting
today, against the abuse of the poor,
against war mongering, against hostility to
sexual freedom and enjoyment, against
oppression of women and gays, would have
been resolved centuries ago, in favor of
human liberty.the Abrahamic has been
holding us back. It holds us back still.

Annunaki:
So people that are this daft still exist?

sure dey do and am a api one at dat

Annunaki:
Dunce, Jesus was not a mere prophet. He is the son of the most high God. He brought in a new covenant for christians and he effectively made the old testament laws you are quoting obsolete.

replacing an old version with a new favourable one.....only lies needs difrent versions

parisbookaddict:
Wow.. re read my post. .. i never said so.. David waged war so did joshua so did moses. .. dont forget the destruction of Sodom.. of course their is violence on thw OT.... but are Christians told to be violent ..no..even jews dont practice all the mosaic law as much..

Those events were described not prescribed. ..

Most times people forget christians are followers of Jesus and not ancient jews living under old law..

and u forgetting Jesus ain't d only prophet in d xtian book as muh'd ain't d only in d Muslim's cos it seems u singling d dude out.... clearly sum1 aint reading deir bible wel.....
Make ready to slaughter the infidel’s sons for
the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and
possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the
world with tyrants. ( Isaiah 14:21 )
Then I heard God say to the other men,
"Follow him through the city and kill everyone
whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy;
have no pity! Kill them all – old and young,
girls and women and little children.” ( Ezekiel
9:5 )
Now therefore kill every male among the little
ones, and kill every woman that hath known
man by lying with him. But all the women
children, that have not known a man by lying
with him, keep alive for yourselves. ( Numbers
31:17-18 )
If your own full brother, or your son or
daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate
friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods,
whom you and your fathers have not known,
gods of any other nations, near at hand or far
away, from one end of the earth to the other: do
not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with
pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill
him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay
him; the rest of the people shall join in with
you. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12

how is dis any beta dan d muslim's Koran??

parisbookaddict:
A lot of what tartar9 posted are in the bible but he took almost all of it out of context..they are stories of what happened in jewish history and not commands to kill people or offer human sacrifices like he suggests...

for example a man decided to sacrifice his daughter, tartat9 posts that the bible condones human sacrifice while infact it is a verse that illustrate how terribly the king had stoop to and how vices where creeping into the kingdom.. no where is such it condoned...

He takes a single line out of a verse without its wide context and claims its a command..if they are commands to kill, christians will be killing..but they are not..

so wah u saying in essense is dere are no violent chapters in the bible as dere are in d Koran?

johnydon22:
I think you have every right to voice out your grievances and your issues with anything you are into..

For the name calling; I take it you mean you care more about people's opinion about you than your own opinion of you.

If not then i see no reason why you can't voice out.

I always tell people. . .I am responsible for what i write, people are responsible for what they understand. . . (Have always noticed people understand what they choose to)

I am only to right, not supposed to understand it for people. . . .Voice i pray you... Lets hear your own mind, we each deserve and have that right..

sure we do

more

here are few of my favourite atheist memes

UyiIredia:
Faith simply means belief and everybody believes in something. It is based on belief a person works towards a vision against all odds.

faith means belief? bro no doubt both are intertwined but they definitely aren't d same...

UyiIredia:
I have done that the best I can. I pretended being an atheist, became a deist and rejected Christianity and at the end of it all I never stopped believing in God and still returned to Christ. I'm certainly a very different Christian from the one that came to Nairaland but in the end faith wins.

and what exactly do u think "faith"means? bro having faith in something doesn't make that thing rue,it doesn't even make it probably true, it means you'd believe it even if it's not true-as sed by his holiness GURU JOHNNYDON22

Arguably, there is no stronger belief than one’s religion. What would it take for you to entertain the thought that you – and the other followers of your religion – could be wrong?
Many people will (hopefully… eventually) change their beliefs on a subject after enough contradictory evidence emerges. Why? Because sometimes the evidence is so solid and undeniable that it is easier to give up their belief or worldview than having to constantly generate excuses why the evidence is false.
Nothing in this world should be immune to scrutiny, and that includes religion.

with tears in my eyes I went through dis post and wished God exists...Islam sud be wiped off d surface of earth,it's such a violent,barbaric and immoral religion and m surprised some will see d evil it does as accordance to sum stupid supreme God

Saying evrytn tartar9 quoted are lies makes u hypocritical, both religion claim to preach morality yet d two books contains immorality but truly dat of d muslim is worse,i wonder how y'all stil folow dat criminal mohamed

Lol dis is funny ,indeed d height of insecurity...OP bliv me wen i say d world wud be a beta place widou allah and his paedophile of a prophet

malvisguy212:
the bible does not specifically say it only cain and abel was the son of adam,. Although Cain does seem to be the firstborn, the text is not clear that Abel was the second born, but only that he was the second son. Later, the narrative indicates that Adam and Eve produced "other sons and daughters." So, it is possible that Adam
and Eve produced daughters between the births of Cain and Abel. It is also likely that others sons and daughters
were produced after the birth of Abel.
We don't know how old Cain and Abel
were when Cain murdered his brother,
but they seem to be at least young adults, since they are both engage in a
trade. for their living.
Although the period of time between the birth of Cain and the death of Abel is not given in the Bible, it would seem that this period was probably over 100 years, since the birth of Adam's next son, Seth is said to have occurred when Adam was 130 years old. Adam and Eve could have produced many daughters during that period of time.
It is possible cain would have marry one
of this sister.

All of these events happened before the law was given. According to the Apostle Paul,when there is no law, there can be
Romans 4:15
no violation of the law or sin.
for the Law brings about wrath,but where there is no law, there also is no violation.

Romans 5:13
for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

So, since the law against incest was not given until thousands of years later, there was no theological problem with Cain marrying his sister.

they were young adults and both were into TRADING for living?? who did dey sell deir goods to? Siblings?

malvisguy212:
the bible does not specifically say it only cain and abel was the son of adam,. Although Cain does seem to be the firstborn, the text is not clear that Abel was the second born, but only that he was the second son. Later, the narrative indicates that Adam and Eve produced "other sons and daughters." So, it is possible that Adam
and Eve produced daughters between the births of Cain and Abel. It is also likely that others sons and daughters
were produced after the birth of Abel.
We don't know how old Cain and Abel
were when Cain murdered his brother,
but they seem to be at least young adults, since they are both engage in a
trade. for their living.
Although the period of time between the birth of Cain and the death of Abel is not given in the Bible, it would seem that this period was probably over 100 years, since the birth of Adam's next son, Seth is said to have occurred when Adam was 130 years old. Adam and Eve could have produced many daughters during that period of time.
It is possible cain would have marry one
of this sister.

All of these events happened before the law was given. According to the Apostle Paul,when there is no law, there can be
Romans 4:15
no violation of the law or sin.
for the Law brings about wrath,but where there is no law, there also is no violation.

Romans 5:13
for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

So, since the law against incest was not given until thousands of years later, there was no theological problem with Cain marrying his sister.

they were young adults and both were into TRADING for living?? who do dey sell deir goods to? Siblings?

OPEN LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA (Muhammadu Buhari G.C.F.R) ON EDUCATIONAL SECTOR.
With due respect sir, I will like to commend you on your great and numerous activeness towards the development of our great nation since you emerge as the president of our country. Its has become a mindset and well sayings of some citizen of our nation ''Buhari can't subsidize or eradicate the issue of terrorism in Nigeria''. According to my expectation and believe, it is a mindset to me that you President Muhammadu Buhari will eradicate, not even subsidize the terrorism issues we are facing in our country. It is obvious that Nigeria is facing terrorism act in numerous sectors of the country.
1.Educational sector.
2.Power sector.
3. Employment.
4.Security sector.
5.Political sector.
Let me go on Educational sector. Education is the best legacy; Come to think of it Mr. President, we all know that Britian colonized Nigeria. In the history of education with Nigeria, western education to be precise, the whites are the one who enlighten us on western education, but right from time, we study more than they do but yet their country is well developed to our country. For the fact that we study more than they do, can't we implement more tangible ideas so as to make our country more better than their country especially in technology?
Mr. President, many students drop out of school due to financial problem and this make them become irrelevant to the society. Take a flash back; 30 years ago, no one ever dreamt that Nigeria can be among the terrorist nation in the world. Today, Nigeria is on the top list among the terrorist countries due to Boko Haram insurgency..
The boko haram you hear now killing innocent souls started based on lack of proper and effective education in some parts of the country. It was discovered from my research that the children of the masses are the ones suffering from qualitative education in Nigeria today.
Most of our politician's children don't study here in Nigeria, why? This is a question to them all. Mr. President, take a look at aviation education for instance, most of these aviation students never aspired to get a local license or certificate for the fact that if this recommendation is given to them, they find it difficult to secure job with their credentials, especially those on technical fields among them. I read a news on the net a year ago about 500 graduate pilots unable to get job. Why? After all, Nigeria license is the license issued to them (NCAA). Also, lack of proper education is among the causes why we experience aviation disaster in this country.
Students of the masses spend years in getting degree in Nigeria universities, by the time they graduated from school, their age has above the the required age in labour market which also make some of them to make false statement of their age. The worst of it all, students write UTME more than Three times without admission into higher institutions. All these are factors affected some certain set of people in Nigeria. No one ever thought that the governments are making money from the masses through the yearly UTME(jamb) in which 1.7 million candidates will obtained the form and less than 400,000 will be admitted to universities, polytechnics and college of educations in Nigeria. In a pleading position with rolling tears from eyes,
Mr. President, please do something about this. Nigerians are really suffering without education and a qualitative one. I believe you can do it and may God help you on your assignments in office.
I still appreciate the atmosphere of your tenure. Kudos sir.
Thank you for the Audience.
COMRADE ABODUNRIN ABDULSALAM BABALOLA (The African Youths Of Today-TAYCOT)

timonski:
The fool says in His heart that there is no God.

and the wise says it out loud

Put a frog in bucket of water n start heating the water. As d temperature of d water is rising, d frog is able to adjust it's body temperature accordingly. The frog kips on adjusting with d increase in temperature... just when d water is about to reach boiling point, d frog is not able to adjust anymore.... @ dat point d frog decides to jump out...d frog tries to jump but is unable to so because it has lost its strength in adjusting with d rising water temperature....soon d frog dies. What killed d frog? Many of us will say d boiling water... but d truth about what killed d frog was it's inability to decide when to jump out. We all nid to adjust with people n situation but we need to be sure wen we nid to adjust and wen we need to jump out. There are times wen we nid to face situations n take appropriate action....if we allow people to exploit us, mentally, physically, emotionally & financially, they will continue to do so. We have to decide when to jump n do so while u still av d strength. while in a relationship & love isn't reciprocated after giving it ur best, Pls walk away while u can!! Have a blessed weekend!({})

lols seriously dis proves dere sud be some verbal test one ought to pass b4 creating a thread here.....WTF is dis one saying?

iamrealdeji:
This girl get bad yoruba mouth,she talks too much in movies and shouts too much with cursing and insulting big big Yoruba words,she's a typical yoruba girl you'd hate to get into a quarrel or argument with you,i don't like arguing with yoruba girls that use extraordinarily big big yoruba words and proverbs to defend themselves and insult

she's not Yoruba and dose movies u watch dat she shouts and uses big Yoruba words are just bin portrayed according to d scripts given to her....she's an Edo gal

osile2012:
[size=18pt]If i am correct, this section is for religion and not politics. And if we practiced our religion honestly, those issues your worried about in Nigeria would not be existent .[/size]

if we practiced our religion honestly as u sed Nigeria wud av gone berserk...dere wud av bin slavery evrywia cos nowhere in d bible nor quran sez "thou shalt not enslave thy neighbour"

if we practiced our religion honestly girls who lose their virginity at teenage wil get killed evry nw and den cos d holy books sez so kil any bride who ain't a virgin

if we practiced our religion honestly women won't be alowd opinions cos acordn to d holy books dey are created for men's enjoyment
d list kips going on and on if we practiced our religion honestly
PEACE

dalaman:
Am an atheist.

ur post depicted sum1 defendn allah

dalaman:
Yeah, obvious myth. You just happen to be indoctrinated and accept the Jewish, Greek and Roman version out of the many other mythologies out there. Do you have a video recording of Jesus to show me that he ever existed? Do you have a picture of Jesus when he was walking the earth? Do you even have any writing from Jesus himself that mentions him any any of the claims about him? You have stories written about a guy which appeared about 40-90 years after he died, very contradictory stories whose authours remain unknown and you think it is somehow special because your land was conquered by men who happen to gain by spreading those mythical stories to you. Oduduwa is a mythical yoruba legend, many Yoruba's believe in his legendary tales, he has as much evidence to show that he existed just like your Jesus. Prove to me that he also never existed.



There are people that spend most of their time discussing politics and sports on nairaland, do they do that because they are disturbed. I know how you guys always appeal to emotions to make you feel bad, the OP on this thread just used some ridiculous emotional appeal until I called him out, the OP claimed that atheist here have stated that they are frustrated with life and don't want to be accountable that is why they are atheist, I challenged him to show one atheist on nairaland that has even stated that are he changed his tone and had to take his words back. I am here to challenge you guys based on your claims and see how true the measure up to the reality we all live in. So far you have constantly failed to show that what you believe in can stand the reality we see around us.



No, your God can not do anything that is why he relies on men to do everything for him, men had to write his religious books for him, sit down and vote on which books will be assembled into the final canon for him, chose and create all the doctrines for him, speak for him, build all the temples for him, fight all the wars for him, convert others for him, do everything for him, he has never been seen or shown to do anything for himself, he only comes down and do things like fight humans and kill them in the pages of story books that were written by humans but never in reality. There is no God, that is why you are speaking and talking on his behalf, what exist is people like you that believe and subscribe to what ever God idea they were born into and indoctrinated with.






Allah does not need to love any body, Allah is the most supreme being, humans are his slaves and he does not need to be in any loving relationship with anybody. He is not like your God that needs to kill himself and sacrifice himself unto himself because he wants to offer people salvation. Allah is not and can never be that weak. He simply is and that is all there is to it. There is no God except Allah. No prove to me that your God exist and Allah does not.

reading ur post from the top I tot "dis is a free thinker" bt wen I got to d bottom of it I realised u're just another theist defendin his religion wereby bin biased....deres no proof watsoever dat neida d xtian nor d Muslim god exists,as a matter of fact Allah ain't any difrent to oda deities cos muhammad's granpa abd-mtalib was a known idolator a moon worshiper at dat , he named muhammad's father ABDULLAH meaning SLAVE OF ALLAH...Muslims are no beta dan dem traditional worshippers cos d moon is always involved in waheva dey do...lols bowing b4 it(salat) and al oda stuffs
p.s am nt atheistic just a curious mind

johnydon22:
Lmao. . here cracked me up but it so true. . most people become agnostics without even knowing there is a word for their stance.

Agnosticism is more like untold atheism...But it is an open minded position and that is why i always prize myself to be Agnostic too



It is only a shame when humans cannot stand up against authority when it goes against a societal good.

Most renowned men in history never conformed to the dictates of authority...



Like you must have seen in many of my posts religions thrives on a canoe paddled by ignorance of the masses.

They encourage incuriosity, discourage questions and applaud blind faith and belief and these are dangerous to the intellectual growth of our species.

Have you ever heard someone say "Knowledge is power?"

That is true, Knowledge is power and take this power from the masses and you will have the power to control them, give it to the masses and you loose your control.

Religions use this means to bolt adherents in sheepish ignorance and so conforms to their dictates.

That is why religions are mostly against absolute knowledge or independent approximations or curiosity because if you take the knowledge back from the authority they loose their hold on you..

This has been one of the major disturbing aspects of religions.

Threat of violence and torture to ensure submission and conformity. . . This disturbing cankerwormous idea has eaten deep into our society and has instilled unwarranted fear in our young one.

Has helped kill the intellectual curiosity of the young ones and as such is a societal vice that should be refuted.

One of the most disturbing ideas of such religions is that it presents a wrathful, vengeful angry, judgemental, egoistic, narcissistic, grudge bearing, childish, sadistic and barbaric God that would burn billions because they went against it's command or wounded his ego or did not believe in it (Either cus of lack of evidence or believes in a different concept)

It makes people to be okay with such ideas that people tend to find this type of egoistic sadism and chronic barbarism as a good trait to possess..



Thank you bro. .

Please like i said earlier i never ignored this post..

Have a good one

CNT expres aw glad I am to av met a super mind lyk urs

johnydon22:


Please i am sorry once again for giving you the impression that i left your post unanswered, that wasn't my intent.

The truth is you don't really need to cram the bible verses to buttress your point to him, as a religionist it is a normal thing for someone to discard every other source of knowledge deduction in order to uphold their religious dogmas.

Some even go as far as rejecting scientific postulations.

Obviously you had a running with a fanatic who from your post don't even know the meaning of a theistic God concept.

My advice is that for the fact that you are the quiet type, just don't engage people out there.

Belief deals with emotion and so people tend to get emotional unsettled when you reject or refute their beliefs.

This emotional tilt makes them potential harm to you who reject or ridicule their beliefs. . So brother i think you should just let them pass.

Neva to engage dem...noted!
it just hurts to see sum1 u knw to be smart playing dumb to d bible lyk some robot

johnydon22:
.Sorry please i didn't snub you or ignored your post..

as a matter of fact i bookmarked it because the reply i was going to give isn't just a simple one ..

so don't think i did... please i am sorry forgive me if you think so honestly i didn't ..

of cos I bliv u, don't nid no biblical/Quranic verse to knw wen sum1 is teln d truth