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Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 8:11pm On Dec 07, 2015

Richirich713:
•John, Paul, author of Hebrews, James,Matthew, Mark, Luke Peter, Jude.

•Apocryphon of John, treatise on resurrection,Gospel of Thomas.

•Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Phlegon, Lucian, Celsus, Mara Bar-Serapion, Suetonius, Thallus.

•Aristo of Pella, Melito of Sardis,Justin Martyr, Aristides ,Clement of Rome, 2 Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp, Martyrdom of Polycarp, Didache, Barnabas, Shepard of Hermes, fragments of Papias, Athenagoras, Theophilus of Antioch Quadratus, Athenagoras, Theophilus of Antioch Quadratus, Dhognetus, Gospel of Peter.

Look at these people and their writings as while as the dating of their writings.

Atheists are clearly very stubborn of the historical evidence for jesus existence, they believe many ancient figures existed based on historical methods used by historical scholars.

But when these same scholars say jesus definitely existed, atheists deny it even tho the evidence for jesus is much stronger than many other ancient historical figures.

What more could I expect...dude most of those you mentioned here were born after HIS death

Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 4:24pm On Dec 07, 2015

Richirich713:
Tiberius Julius Caesar succeeded Augustus after Augustus death, and I'm sure u believe he existed.

Yet u should ask urself why do we have only 10 historical sources( within a 150 years of Tiberius life) that even mention him.

We have only 10 sources that even mentions the existence of the most powerful man during (14–37 AD). And yes the bible is one of those sources , ( see Luke 3:1)

Guess how much sources (within a 150 years of his life) do we have of jesus?

We have forty sources that mention jesus.

40 sources mention a Jewish carpenter while only 10 sources mention the most powerful man in the world at that time.

Conclusion - The historical evidence for jesus existence is very strong , just go ask the historical scholars.

40 sources?? wow that's a first...would you mind naming them?

Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 1:57pm On Dec 07, 2015

johnydon22:

Nope Augustus has officials to look after every province, there is no way he should have heard or even know of it.

what is Pilate's job then?

Israel was under Roman conquest and so was a province of Rome overseen by Pilate.

Augustus Caesar practised traditional roman religion so i doubt if he had any reason to even pay mind to someone claiming to be birthed by Gods.

there was far more important empire business required to have an emperor checking over individuals talk more lower class individuals from conquered provinces..

Assuming Augustus mever met nor heard of him like you said, so there were no poets,critics nor travellers that could document his existence?

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Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 1:19pm On Dec 07, 2015

johnydon22:
Augustus Caesar was an Emperor of the Roman empire .. do you know what that meant?

He was like a God among men in Rome.. (Augustus means Divine.. a title held only by gods before)

I doubt if the emperor would travel all the way from rome to the Isreali province of the empire to meet some guy named Jesus.

what business does the emperor have with a lower class citizen as one from a conquered province..

This is like saying why Buhari didn't meet you... (Emperor holds a lot more power and province than just a president..)

The emperor doesn't need meet all his citizens..

Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 1:13pm On Dec 07, 2015

johnydon22:
Augustus Caesar was an Emperor of the Roman empire .. do you know what that meant?

He was like a God among men in Rome.. (Augustus means Divine.. a title held only by gods before)

I doubt if the emperor would travel all the way from rome to the Isreali province of the empire to meet some guy named Jesus.

what business does the emperor have with a lower class citizen as one from a conquered province..

This is like saying why Buhari didn't meet you... (Emperor holds a lot more power and province than just a president..)

The emperor doesn't need meet all his citizens..

Buhari would sure have heard of/met me if I claimed to be the one and only son of d sky daddy...btw I thought Jesus was crucified in Rome, if he was there's no way Caesar Gaius Octavious wouldn't have known of it

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Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 12:57pm On Dec 07, 2015

johnydon22:

Are you referring to Augustus Caesar?

sure

Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 12:56pm On Dec 07, 2015

johnydon22:

Are you referring to Augustus Caesar?

sure

Christianity Etc › Re: "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 12:40pm On Dec 07, 2015

johnydon22:
If you ask me my own personal opinion though..

I hold most outstanding figures in ancient antiquities to be real historical figures.

I think Jesus just like i also think Achilles and Odysseus were all real historical figures..

What is glaring in the stories to be fictitious works are the implausible preternatural claims like Achilles' mother was a goddess he couldn't be pierced, Odysseus went to tartarus or Jesus father was a god and strolled on oceans etc..

August live from 23 September 63 BC – 19 August 14
AD so there is no way he wouldn't have met/heard of Jesus if he(Jesus) actually walked this earth

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Sex Before Marriage? by bytemeister(m): 12:36pm On Dec 07, 2015

hahn:
A lot of married men and women cheat na. But even when I wasn't married I always seem to get stuck to one pvssy. I honestly respect guys who keep more than one woman. One woman has always been enough for me

you be boss sha...Getting MARRIED and STAYIN MARRIED..u try
Marriage is a "no-go" area for me, as a matter of fact I dnt see myself getn married cause I wouldn't want to make an order and still be interested in what's on the menu

Christianity Etc › "Jesus" A Figment Of Man's Imagination by bytemeister(op): 12:08pm On Dec 07, 2015

The world has been for a long time engaged in writing lives of Jesus.... the library of books has grown since then. But when we come to examine them, one startling fact confronts us: all of the books relate to a personage concerning whom there does not exist a single scrap of contemporary information-not one! by accepted tradition he was born in the reign of AUGUSTUS, the great literary age of the nation of which he was a subject. in the augustan age, historians flourished; poets, orators, critics and travelers abounded, yet not one mentions the name of Jesus Christ, much less any incident in his life.None at all except of course the BIBLE

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Sex Before Marriage? by bytemeister(m): 11:44am On Dec 07, 2015

hahn:
Lol.
But I am

shouldn't you be?...you married

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Sex Before Marriage? by bytemeister(m): 11:40am On Dec 07, 2015

ssweetorgasm:
SEEK and u shall receive, only if they had called 4 him

oh oh This one is obviously a robot...bt wait even robots are smart now undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Sex Before Marriage? by bytemeister(m): 11:35am On Dec 07, 2015

ssweetorgasm:
Bro ebola can actually be healed by GOD, there is nothing that my GOD cannot do, aids patients have receive their healing countless times 4rm JESUS christ.

god can heal Ebola huh

wtf was he doing when his alleged creations were dying from it??

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Sex Before Marriage? by bytemeister(m): 11:34am On Dec 07, 2015

hahn:
That was actually a woman that made that comment. You know they are perfect pawns for pastors and Imams because of their gullibility. Consider yourself lucky, after four years of smashing that kitty you can get a fresh one

Lols the good news is I apparently ain't a 1-woman type of guy

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Sex Before Marriage? by bytemeister(m): 11:17am On Dec 07, 2015

hahn:
At least she doesn't have to live the rest of her life in fear of the unknown. Btw, it was hell reading your write up

No mind the dude, na this same thought of his made my gf of 4 years break up wif me last week...Fear of what Yahweh might do to her if we stay too long together or eventually end up getting married to eachother grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are The Atheist Not Seeing This? by bytemeister(m): 9:55am On Nov 30, 2015

macof:
I said don't take offense. . But the truth hurts
I'm an honest person, I don't lie to make people happy.
You didn't answer my question. . Pls I need an answer.
if you really believe yoruba traditional practices are monotheistic, why opt for islam if it's monotheism you are after? Why slave urself to non - Yoruba ideas of the creator? Is Mohammed better than Orunmila?

bro why won't he opt for the Arab's religion when there is promise of after life and 72 virgins abi na 7? (i wonder how spirits wil consumate) and d last I checked Yoruba traditional practices made no promise of such tongue

macof:
I said don't take offense. . But the truth hurts
I'm an honest person, I don't lie to make people happy.
You didn't answer my question. . Pls I need an answer.
if you really believe yoruba traditional practices are monotheistic, why opt for islam if it's monotheism you are after? Why slave urself to non - Yoruba ideas of the creator? Is Mohammed better than Orunmila?

Christianity Etc › Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by bytemeister(m): 9:10am On Nov 30, 2015

johnydon22:
Just like was asked in the Paris Attack brouhaha..

"PRAY FOR PARIS" why should one pray to a God who did nothing to stop the attack in the first place..

seriously it's mind boggling. You see GULLIBILTY and CREDULITY are considered undesirable in every department of human life EXCEPT religion

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Christianity Etc › Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by bytemeister(m): 6:03am On Nov 30, 2015*

This trend is so common among religious folks, THANKING GOD IN EVERY SITUATION YOU SEE YOURSELF simply connotes ANYTHING can HAPPEN to ANYBODY ANYTIME...I thought the purpose of a father figure is to guide and protect one so y'd I subject myself to some sky daddy who will not stop me from dying either by accident of sickness.Seriously I don’t know if God exists, but it would be better for His reputation if he doesn't

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Will You Do To An Atheist Gay Person? by bytemeister(m): 4:36pm On Nov 29, 2015

if u were my friend and I find out u gay,i wouldn't like u any less, it's ur sexual preference and no one has a say in it but YOU....The only advice I'd give you is to be careful and not get caught in the act as it's against d law in Nigeria

Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Wish They Never Let Goodluck Jonathan Go! by bytemeister(m): 12:05pm On Nov 21, 2015

hahn:
Who go give johnydon22 weed smoke?

me self been dey wonder oo grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing How Islam Really F**** Up Peoples Way Of Thinking by bytemeister(m): 1:26pm On Nov 20, 2015

ISIS' recent attack on France has become a big advantage to their counterpart religion....Muslims now converting to xtians,soughtin refuge from Jesus cos Islam is losing face and it's now clearly obvious its not a religion of peace.....I forsee pastors getting richer

Family › Re: The Longest 20 Minutes Of My Life. by bytemeister(m): 11:33pm On Nov 17, 2015

Rest of the story..... . As the Dr was about to tell me my results a Nurse walked in rudely and alerted the Dr a patient in the recovery room was in severe pains, he should come and see for himself. He quickly took to his heels and left me alone in his office, I was a bit angry the nurse rudely cut into my consultation period then again I had to understand he needed to save a life. I pulled out my phone from my bag and called DH, I didn't have to go through the trauma alone, he was a party in the fun moments and has to know what's the latest. I told him I might be pregnant, he just kept repeating, "wow" till I told him later as the Dr just stepped in again. He didn't wait to even sit down properly, he said, as you know its a tradition in this clinic to run HIV tests on all patients once your blood sample is taken, my heart skipped more bits again as I answered, "yes". "The result is negative "! "However, you have malaria 2+ and you are not pregnant", that was the Dr's final results he read out to me. I just gave a sigh of relief and thanked my God. I further asked him for safe family planning methods asides popping pills everyday and if I can go on it right immediately. He suggested a whole lot of family planning methods and I finally settled for the shots which should be renewed every 3months. God help it doesnt fail me.

Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 8:43pm On Nov 16, 2015

Ridwan1821:
Yea..I thought u are a Christian.. So which religion are u practising?

ain't a Christian.... tho I used to be a Muslim(by birth)

Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by bytemeister(m): 3:43pm On Nov 16, 2015

toothfarian huh

sounds fair...atleast when they understand the reason they debunked other religions for that which they practice,they'd understand why we debunked their religion for toothfairy

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Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 2:50pm On Nov 16, 2015

Ridwan1821:
No qualms but next time, don't discriminate other religion(s).

yeah yeah the usual "don't discriminate other religions" like I came advertising any religion here,am sure you must think me a christian

Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 1:58pm On Nov 16, 2015

Ridwan1821:
@Bytemeister..We are Muslims and not terrorists (Don't talk about Islam if u don't have knowledge about it)..Its not all of those terrorists that are Muslims..U may be bearing a Muslim name and u are not practising Islam, this means u are not a Muslim but u people do see everybody bearing Muslim names as Muslims..(Note: Am not arguing with u. I just want u to know d simple fact).
We Muslims don't need to argue with them@Lotusflower and AbdulAzeez..Just leave them alone and let them say whatever they like..All u need do is to preach to ur Muslim people not to leave Islam bcuz of these tests we are receiving from ALLAH (Remember, this world is like a prison for we Muslims).

Am sorry for bringing up d matter again..Just can't take my mind off it.

Bro let go of it...this ain't religion section

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Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 10:10am On Nov 16, 2015

lotusflower:
I'm deeply sorry 4 derailing d thread, @ all. Lastly,@ bytemeister,I'm sorry,none of dose words are from Allah. They r d hadith(4rm d prophet) of which a lot av been altered. God knows best. Lets nt go into dat,we r derailing d thread. In watever we do, I pray 4 d mercy of God 4 all. Once again, I'm sorry. #Peace#

issokay

Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 10:08am On Nov 16, 2015

abdulmalik99:
ohh sorry for that, but you see such opinions that could be offensive to others shouldn't be voiced out in a public forum. Peace

sorry for all I said too, we obviously don't share the same belief and when religion is concerned,words are thought to be offensive....PEACE

Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 9:49am On Nov 16, 2015

NOBODYY:
Thread tittle: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants

Not Religion fanatics thread

Come off it guys..

sorry for derailing the thread jare Its just funny how some Muslims claim other Muslims misinterprete the Quran when it's very clear and that abdulmalik dude had it coming when he mentioned my pops.....once again SORRY FOR DERAILING THE THREAD

Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 9:35am On Nov 16, 2015

abdulmalik99:
ok, we can only have an argument when you learn to spell correctly. But right now, you're not worth it.

lols spell correctly?? seriously dude I'd school ur family as a whole

Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 9:32am On Nov 16, 2015

abdulmalik99:
I have no words for you sincerely, people like you shouldn't be allowed to walk freely. You're dangerous to the society with this your absurd mentality. It's better to just keep quiet than condemning other people's religion in a public forum. You're just ignorant

u believe in sum book where illiterates can read, virgins can give birth, a
sea
can be parted by throwing a stick in it, donkeys
talk, stars fight together with humans, human being
can live inside a fish for 3 days, a man can walk to
the muddy spring where the sun sets, men can
walk on water, men can die and be resurrected
back to life,man ride a flying horse...yet am d one with an absurd mentality?

Education › Re: Unilorin Utme 2015/2016 Aspirants by bytemeister(m): 9:27am On Nov 16, 2015

abdulmalik99:
Ode!!!! Because your daddy was in paris with them na

oh Geez! dude aw did u know he was dere?!....sure he was and ur momma was too as his slut!

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