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sonmvayina:
Life is not spiritual. We are human beings. So the good Lord gave to mankind laws to guide our experience and make it worth our while..

You contradict. Does the *the good Lord" not reside in the spiritual realm?

FatherCHRISTMAS:
Why not work and be earning naira if you are so patriotic
Hopefully you'll get 2 or 3 people you can charge 10k to learn freelancing on up work

No japa sweet pass to be in Nigeria and be earning in dollars! That's when you know Naija can sweet

MaxInDHouse:
When you meet individuals who loves arguing fruitlessly know that such ones are avoiding just one thing: obedience!

There are many who don't understand the word of God so they say and do things that's of no sense but when you present the truth to them they will thank you for helping them to see the light and ask you to tell them where you are getting this life saving information since we all have the same book (Bible) yet there is contradictions everywhere.

Surely there must be a gathering of real believers where there is no confusion as to doctrine and belief! 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3; Colossians 2:2
Such can only be possible when there is willingness to yield to reproof, teaching, correction and training in righteousness {2Timothy 3:16} then each of them will submit to the same line of thought and work together as one team! John 17:22

Kobojunkie is just moving from thread to thread arguing to fight against the spirit of submission so that they can continue in their arrogance claiming they know. If you welcome their ideas you will discover that they have nothing tangible to offer other than REBELLION!

All he has to do is show me: "it says here 9 tribes formed Northern Kingdom and Joseph was living in Judah as Samaritans". That's all.
What would you say is a gathering of true believers and is there only one such gathering?

Kobojunkie:
Is language comprehension a problem of yours or something? I don't owe you any chapter as what I wrote clearly states that the answer you seek is found by reading the books of 1 Kings, Matthew, and also John where it is revealed that there were 4 tribes in Judah, and not 2, meaning that there were never 10 lost tribes of Israel to begin with. Additionally, the book of 1 Kings 13 also reveals that rather than lost(vanished/disappeared), the people— the 9 tribes of the nation of Israel— were exiled from the land by YHWH, God of Israel. Later on in Isaiah, we learn of how YHWH used the Assyrians to accomplish this.

FYI, If you are not interested in actually reading and comprehending the content of the book for yourself and are looking instead for quotes, you are wasting your time with me.

No siree, language is not my problem. To be honest, I'm beginning to suspect you might have been lying.
I've read 1 King inside out and nowhere do I see that 9 tribes formed Northern Kingdom. Infact forget 1 King, nowhere in the whole Bible do I see that. Also, I don't see Joseph mentioned anywhere as living in Judah as Samaritans.

No sir, we have to conclude you were lying - 10 tribes made up the Northern Kingdom not 9, and Joseph was not living in Judah as Samaritans.

Kobojunkie:
So, reading the book to figure out things as you go along is completely out of the question for you. I am afraid you are not going to get a quotation from me saying that actually. It is only through reading and comprehending the events that took place, much the same as you would any other historical write-up that you can grasp this one. If it is not something you are skilled at doing, that is fine.

Below is what u wrote VERBATIM and it is not found nor implied anywhere in 1 Kings where u said it is written. Give chapter and verse same way I gave mine
Or are we to conclude you were lying sir?

Here's what you wrote:
9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.
In the book of Matthew and John, we are introduced to the fact that the Samaritans— descendants of Joseph— formerly a part of the northern nation of Israel, had a home in the nation of Judah making that 4 tribes living in Judah during the 1st century AD.

How were you able to stay away from Nairaland?

Kobojunkie:
The temple of God was in Jerusalem and Jerusalem belonged in the nation of Judah. Jeroboam, when he became King decided he would appoint people from all different tribes as priests completely ignoring two things
✹ YHWH had appointed that only Levites could be made priests in the land
✹ Levites had no other inheritance in the land of Israel except that which they obtained through the temple system

In Kings 12, we see that YHWH laid down a curse on the temple that Jeroboam set up in Bethel, yet Jeroboam did not change at all. What do you think the Levites would have done in that case? Remained in the land where they were literally without any real inheritance? Or go back to Jerusalem where they were assured to at least continue to reign in the Temple of God as the only tribe that could be priests there?

Well, their decision is seen as the book progresses as it became that the Levites were again associated with the temple in Judah. We also have record of Levite prophets like Jeremiah who were from the nation of Judah instead of Israel.

The promise that was made by YHWH to Rehoboam was on the condition that he, Jeroboam, would live right. But by chapter 13, we already see that Jeroboam never did as God expected and brought destruction to all of Israel because of his very refusal to make only Levites priests in the land.

Helloooo,
I didn't mention Levites. I said show us with numbered quotation where in 1 Kings you saw "9 tribes with Joseph in Judah"

TheDevilsBride:
Interesting that the only "proof" you need is the fervent testimony of people who've abandoned one form of intoxication (drugs, alcohol etc) for another: the intoxication of blind faith.

There are a million intoxications, how come only "intoxication" with Christ Spirit inevitably works?
No other person tells you to allow them into your heart. With others you worship them and obey their laws

Kobojunkie:
Is there any chance you will read the rest of the book of 1 Kings or do you intend on only reading those particular verses that you quoted alone?

Kobojunkie:
You don't need to wait for me at all for that as you can easily read through the book to learn this for yourself.

I have and I don't see any "9 tribes, Joseph in Judah", still I can't imagine you were lying. That's why I want you to show us

Kobojunkie:
After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.

We are still patiently waiting sir.
Where in 1 Kings did you see the above or were you lying?

Kobojunkie:
After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.

Helloooo,
We'er still waiting for your answer:
Where in 1 Kings did you see the above?

Kobojunkie:
What do those passages tell you? Let's start there.

1 Kings 11:29-31
New International Version
29 About that time Jeroboam was going out of Jerusalem, and Ahijah the prophet of Shiloh met him on the way, wearing a new cloak. The two of them were alone out in the country, 30 and Ahijah took hold of the new cloak he was wearing and tore it into twelve pieces. 31 Then he said to Jeroboam, “Take ten pieces for yourself, for this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘See, I am going to tear the kingdom out of Solomon’s hand and give you ten tribes.


1 Kings 12:20-21
New International Version
20 When all the Israelites heard that Jeroboam had returned, they sent and called him to the assembly and made him king over all Israel. Only the tribe of Judah remained loyal to the house of David.
21 When Rehoboam arrived in Jerusalem, he mustered all Judah and the tribe of Benjamin—a hundred and eighty thousand able young men—to go to war against Israel and to regain the kingdom for Rehoboam son of Solomon.

There they are. So where in 1Kings did you see 9 tribes and Joseph in Judah as you said?

CanadaOrBust:
Not according to 1Kings 11: 29 and 1Kings 12;20-21

Kobojunkie:
After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.

So where in 1 Kings did you see the above?

CanadaOrBust:
Not according to 1Kings 11: 29 and 1Kings 12;20-21

Ajens1991:
Whether capital offense or not, without enough evidence, the judge's hand is short to help the prosecutor.

The judge cannot draw conclusion from invalid premise or insufficient evidence.

Which kind conclusion?
The generator which fumes killed them was right there and the poor girl never cooked any peper soup, never even came there that day

Ajens1991:
The prosecutor couldn't provide sufficient evidence to claim that the girl murdered those people. That's all.

The law doesn't not listen to emotions or public sentiment.

It answers to facts and strong arguments.

Not when it comes to capital murder

And they almost lynched her o. When it was clearly generator fumes that killed them!

waternogatenemy:
Amanda is stil a junior General with a alot of wars under her belt.

Actually go to foreign land far away to fight for America.

Yeah? Which war?
I hope that's not her wife

Kobojunkie:
Let me guess, you have absolutely no proof of what seems a neurotic claim, right?

I assume you agree the universe is some sort of simulation

Kobojunkie:
After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.
In the book of Matthew and John, we are introduced to the fact that the Samaritans— descendants of Joseph— formerly a part of the northern nation of Israel, had a home in the nation of Judah making that 4 tribes living in Judah during the 1st century AD.

Not according to 1Kings 11: 29 and 1Kings 12;20-21

Igbo amaka
How can you be a general without fighting any war?

Kobojunkie:
Everything is energy means everything is spiritual? Anyways, I am not in for religious gobbledegook!

Means everything has a basis in another dimension just like avatars

Kobojunkie:
You didn't read what I had stated is instead contained in the book?

Where in the book?

Kobojunkie:
Oh boy!

Just as EVERYTHING is energy, everything is spiritual

Kobojunkie:
I am not the one who says it is wrong. Rather, the book you lot pretend you believe in proclaims it a lie!

How?

Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in hell. Are you one?

It's not by growing up poor.
Some poor are very extravagant by nature while some rich can't spend

Kobojunkie:
Life is spiritual for? Amoebas? Tadpoles? Trees?

Yes

Kobojunkie:
Stop spewing this nonsense already! The Book instead tells of the 9 tribes of the nation of Israel being exiled to other nations by the Assyrians who conquered the nation of Israel. Then by the time of Jesus Christ, we learn that Joseph's descendants— the Samaritans— had found a home in the nation of Judah which was already occupied by 3 tribes — Levi, Judah, and Benjamin. These 4 tribes were then exiled from the nation of Judah when it was destroyed in that first century by the Romans. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Both religions abound with tales disconnected from the very records contained in the book and those confirmed by records.

Are you saying this below is wrong then?

MaxInDHouse:
YES!

The tribes of
Reuʹben
Simʹe·on
Isʹsa·char
Zebʹu·lun
Dan
Naphʹta·li
Gad
Ashʹer
(Ephraim and Manasseh) two sons of Joseph.
We're lost before Jesus' days.

Only

Judah and Benjamin with Levites remain in the south!

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly the warning God sounded through Moses:

I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

The Jews rejected Jesus of Nazareth and ever since then their land continued to be invaded until they disappeared.
Today the people claiming Jews in Israel are not related to those who lived there in Jesus' day but people claiming Jews because they practice Judaism.

That's the cause of unending dispute that have lasted for centuries because the real inhabitants has been displaced now their descendants wants to reclaim their land!

Though the ten Northern tribes were sacked long before they had a chance to reject Jesus

TheDevilsBride:
^^^ Comments like this are poignant exemplars of the sort of theological triumphalism that gives most religions the bad rep they gets with critics.

It's funny though that you seem to think having an invisible friend guiding your actions is infinitely more effective than developing a healthy capacity for actual self-reflection and personal responsibility for your actions. No wonder most Christians enjoy nibbling at the specks in other people's eyes, but forget the massive tree trunk lodged in theirs, but oh well, what do I know, hmm?

If life were not spiritual you may have a point. But life is SPITLRITUAL and it's been proven over and over, and people have testified endlessly that once they allowed that Spirit in, they no longer even have the desire for that alcohol or drugs or whatever it may be

MaxInDHouse:
You surely have a point!

Thanks.
Different if those Israelites were dominating everywhere today - instead they've disappeared!