₦airaland Forum

SoftP:
kindly read between lines, i never supported the so called rapist & with all controversies surrounding him, i have no doubt he have questions to answer. But I'm sure this whole scene can be well managed without much publicity. I'm much more concerned about the aftermath effect on their kids, this is Africa where people are easily stimatised, this is obviously not the best way to go about it

Ahhh, but publicity and public outcry is exactly what protects the Dakos. Otherwise how can they fight the influence, power, and money of Fato and COZA people. That publicity is the only reason we know Nigerians are also saying the below:

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist , forget either pastor or no pastor”. (I do not agree with this. I put it here to show that such view exists)

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

donnie:
Sadly, the court may decide who is going to jail, but not who is telling the truth.
Joseph in the bible comes to mind... he went to jail for what he never did. Up until this day, some still believe he committed rape. Only the scriptures tell otherwise.

Yaaaaa, but we do know some things already.

Here again are what some real Nigerians are saying, not COZA people or paid agents:

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist , forget either pastor or no pastor”. (I do not agree with this. I put it here to show that such view exists)

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

I still don’t understand how a woman can rape a man. How did she force the penís to erect. Let’s find another word instead of “rape”

expert234:
If you are not a cursed dumb basstard, you will provide a link to the news about Fatoyinbo's invitation by the police.

Pastor worship has turned you into a total dumb idiot

Them’s fightin’ words!

Here again is what 9jas are saying:


“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist , forget either pastor or no pastor”. (I do not agree with this. I put it here to show that such view exists)

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

lexy2014:
Like I said, proof

You can’t possibly be this daft, I said “CULTISTS RAPE” I even gave u an example - saying “presidents walk” does not mean all walkers are presidents or that there are no crippled presidents. Jeez!

Here again is what 9jas are saying. This time I boldend the amendment 4 u to see it clearly. Of course I more or less agree with the rest:


“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist , forget either pastor or no pastor”. (I do not agree with this. I put it here to show that such view exists)

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

lexy2014:
I keep saying "proof" cos u can't b saying things u can't prove whether it is in a court or not except u are only interested in sensationalism & not d truth. D fact that this isn't a court is no excuse 4u to say things that aren't d truth. So far all u have said& continue to repeat are information u say u got from others which is hearsay. Information that u can't verify but they make up 80% of ur comments yet u say u don't agree with them. It shows that u aren't even being honest with urself.



Who are d "several girls"? Pls let us no



What is d difference between "cultists are rapists" and "all cultists are rapists"? What is d difference between "cars have engines" & "all cars have engines"? U weren't specific in ur claim. Right now u only trying to save face cos u made a blunder initially.




Who are d Nigerians? U still haven't said. U are making things up. U can't verify anything u are saying.
U haven't amended anything. U are just repeating urself over and over again. Quoting d same information that u say u don't agree with. U still have dodged answering d question: if u don't agree with everything u are quoting, then y are u quoting them as d truth? U can't even verify anything u are saying as to whether it is d truth or not but u are posting them all over d place as a true reflection of events. If u can't say for a certainty that d information u are sharing is d truth, then y are u sharing it?

You can’t possibly be this daft, I said “CULTISTS RAPE” I even gave u an example - saying “presidents walk” does not mean all walkers are presidents. Jeez!

Here is that what 9jas are saying. This time I boldend the amendment 4 u to see it clearly. Of course I more or less agree with the rest:


“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist , forget either pastor or no pastor”. (I do not agree with this)

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

lexy2014:
U are annoyed? How's that my problem? If u can't control ur emotions, there's nothing I can do about it.

This is d question I asked u:





Now, here is that what Nigerians are saying. See how
I’ve changed it




So "some" cultists use rape as part of initiation but here u are generalising that "cultists are rapists". Did ur newspaper reports cover d activities of all cult groups & their activities in Nigeria? If u knew that not all rapists are cultists, how did u come to d conclusion that all cultists are rapists?



Obviously u are getting emotional. I get this type of emotional responses alot. Its usually when folks start running out of things to say or loose d ability 2 defend their claims. If u can't match what Charles Omole said with superior argument, there's no shame in admitting it. Charles Omole has a Ph.D in law& am certain he has female family members. I also don't think u no more than he does when it comes to issues like this. So keep ur emotions in check& put forward rational arguments not personal attacks.


This is a very funny statement because it was Fatoyinbo himself who made disclosures about his cultist past on several occasions while delivering sermons. So I don't no how u came 2d conclusion about his cultist past was a product of some kind of private investigation.





U don't agree that once a cultist always a cultist but u quoted it to justify ur point that cultists are rapists. If u don't believe it, then u won't b quoting in order to validate ur point of view. U have quoted d same things u say u don't agree with over& over again and yet u don't agree with everything u quoted. That's y I asked u if u don't believe that what u are quoting aren't d truth, then y are quoting them, sharing them in ur comments & using them to defend ur comments?



This was& this is my response

You keep asking for evidence and proof like we r in court, when circumstantial evidence is all around u. Bros, you may be a bloodless machine, as for me I’m a human being with emotions and God-given common sense. If several girls, despite the stigma in Nigerian culture, say they were groomed then (statutorily) raped by their ex-cultist pastor, my inclination is to believe the girls and not the pastor.

I said “cultists rape”. That’s what I said NOT “all cultists are rapists” as u keep repeating.

I’ve Amended that list of what 9ja’s are saying. See below

“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist , forget either pastor or no pastor”. (I do not agree with this)

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

Sad. I thought it was only Boko Haram

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Good. Let polithiefians be next

lexy2014:
Do u have any evidence that because Fatoyinbo was a self-confessed cultist he killed and raped? According to u "cultists are rapists". can u prove that? If "cultists are rapists" then it automatically means that "rapists are cultists". Its that simple.

It is escapist 4u to say that because this isn't a law court, then that gives u d freedom to make claims that u can't defend. All that u have said are hearsay& conjectures which u can't even support with d most rational of arguments or facts.

Once again let me quote Charles Omole: "Cases are about evidence, not morality or feral outrage".

Fatoyinbo was accused by d Dakolos of rape but in all that u have said, u haven't been able to provide a shroud of evidence to support ur claim. Even if u can't, at least provide facts to support ur claims. Unfortunately, u can't do that. U talking about cultism. Pls provide facts to prove that once a person was a cultist, he remains a cultist 4 life. If u saying that, then am sure Paul Adefarasin is still a junkie cos he professed that he was once a junkie. Am also sure apostle Paul in d bible was a murderer & killer all his life cos he once a murderer & killer. That means that because a child stole from his mothers pot as a child, then he remains a thief for life.





Who are d Nigerians that are saying d above? Am a Nigerian. I didn't say that. Did u speak to all Nigerians b4 u came 2d conclusion that "Nigerians are the ones saying these things"?





Who are d eye witnesses? I wasn't there that's y i asked u to verify what u were saying. Unfortunately, u are basing ur claims on heresay. U can't even verify anything u are saying as to whether it is d truth or not but u are posting them all over d place as a true reflection of events. If u can't say for a certainty that d information u are sharing is d truth, then y are u sharing it?

Guy, what’s your problem. Because I said “cultists rape” DOES NOT MEAN ALL RAPISTS ARE CULTISTS! U keep repeating it and it’s annoying.
Evidence that cultists rape? If u don’t see that all over newspapers then I can’t help u. Some even use it as part of initiation.

When Your daughter tells u she was raped last year by her teacher quote for her: "Cases are about evidence, not morality or feral outrage"!

Of course this is not a court or Fato would have been deposed by a lawyer and all his cultist past delved into.

Like I said, these are posts I copied from threads, does not mean I agree with everything they say, example , though the cultist past is significant, I do not agree that once a cultist always a cultist.

The eyewitnesses?
You and I were not there. Here is what someone who was there wrote (AN EYEWITNESS) (and police has not denied it):

“Sending a bus load of armed policemen and shady men lying in wait to intimidate my wife and children today, forcing their way into my home? Is that how the REAL police deliver a letter? This is the best you can do? This is why all the hurting women and families haven't come against you?”.

lexy2014:
According to u, "cultists rape". If that is ur assertion, then u are saying rapists are cultists. Going by ur theory, Paul adefarasin who was a junkie, would still b a junkie& still do things that are associated with junkies.

Let me quote this again since u are in d business of deducing what u can't prove:

"Cases are about evidence, not morality or feral outrage"--Charles Omole

Can u pls provide pictorial evidence for this comment:

"Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong."

Can u also provide pictorial evidence of "how armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja were lurking& suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja"?

If d Dakolos & their fans were asked to go to Abuja to protest against coza, would u c it as a problem?

See how you’ve gotten yourself all confused and twisted trying to be too clever by half.
No, that cultists rape does not mean rapists are cultists just as that presidents walk does not...
U look at a person’s history to guage their purview, see what they are CAPABLE of doing. People relapse.
Secondly u r confusing this forum with a court of law. Law is very technical which is why an obviously guilty person may walk free.
This is court of public opinion which is why it matters that Fato was once a cultist who might have killed and raped b4.
As 4 pictorial evidence, u and I were not there, we go by what people who were there said. NPF has not disputed the eye witness accounts.

Mind u, Nigerians are the ones saying these things not yours truly.

Here they are again:


“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist ,forget either pastor or no pastor”.

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

Castration things

asuustrike1:
Mr man stop been emotional as i work with fact and prove not sentiment. Peradventure my daughter was raped, the first thing I would do is to take her to the hospital for forensic test and then establish a case involving a sound lawyer. Was that the case of Busola?

What if your daughter tells u she was raped years ago? You’d have IGP send a detachment to come to your home and make her sign to appear in Abuja?

Nigerians are watching.
U can saturate social media with coza people and paid operatives, but real Nigerians are also watching.

Here are some things people are saying:

“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist ,forget either pastor or no pastor”.

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

Alejobs:
If you don't forgive, you give the past the opportunity it needs to keep you away from the future you desire

This is actually a good quote. Forgiving frees u

Ugosample:
most women in Nigeria no send you o if you are struggling

#fact

Exactly. Women are women everywhere

asuustrike1:
So! This other guy wasn't there too?

No, he clearly wasn’t or that’d be first thing he’d state

Rilley:
Just like your father I say.

Ahh, but u don’t know my father, neither do u know me. You can only comment solely based on this interaction. It is based on it that u acquired the loser title.

asuustrike1:
So you rather believe Tim's statement and refute this person's claim? where is your objectivity in this matter?

Timi WAS THERE!

Rilley:
I know ur father more than you know him so fvck off!

Of course u don’t. U don’t even know me. My own comment was based on your behavior. BTW being a loser is no big deal. U r a loser, so what. Accept it, embrace it. That’s just who u r.

asuustrike1:
Did the so called Nigerians see this?

Pure nonsense. Some nobody who wasn’t there. Is that guy NPF spokesperson?

GistMore1:
Lalasticlala

Funny guy this OP

Unrated900:
Continue hiding and don’t accept the fact that youR leader is a brat

How can someone be appointing and given orders to his fellow slaves from far away

Please nnnadi cownu come home


And stop ranting and insulting your people from afar

Ewu people

So I am now Igbo - more evidence of lack of sense

If this is brief I wonder how many volumes the long history will be

Nairaland no go kee person with laf. Didn’t even watch it yet. Just the title is funny

Good idea. At least for some time. As it is right now, we r not encouraging Nollywood at all

This is pure comedy o, Hehehehe
And this makes front page just like that.
Mod r u related to this guy?

Remimadrid:
Mehn this Kanu to get sense abeg, imagine scamming millions of people at once. The Igbo's are industrous I agree, but as for sense them no get (this is to those who still believe Kanu, not those who has seen through his deception).

Yaaa, but u r the one without sense - confusing a few fringe people for “the Igbos”

AkachukwuD:
Also I do have constant headache

Same answer: meditation.. and paracetamol!

dontro:
Can you RAISE money by saving or cutting down your expenses?

U raise money through all sorts of creative means, including borrowing - the idea is to have more money flowing in than out - not saving it