GreatResearcher1: [s][/s]Wake up from your sleep. If Nigeria isn't doing something right, why are we not having the highest?
Simple: it is not only Nigeria - all of Africa. If FG had closed the airports when everyone was begging them there’d have been no lockdown, no Corona. Useless incompetent mofos
mrgoodd: Some people really count in this country, Ask yourself this question, The last time you fall sick , Who shutdown for you , Use your head and work hard to be relevant
They shut down to DECONTAMINATE the premises not 4 him. Read!
America gives AID and if they give loan they give it according to guidelines and openly. They don’t secretly give u a “loan” (see below) they know u can’t repay. Countries don’t know how much to lend African countries because they don’t know how much they secretly owe China! There is credible report Buhari used ten oil fields to borrow money from China
oguntrading: i dont even look at your words. once your reference is in english, anything you say about china is bullshiet.
are you a kid? how can you use the reference of a party to judge the other rival party?
My friend I’ve adviced u to drop this as u r making more of a fool of yourself. IS CHINA THE ONLY COUNTRY EITH A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE??! How can u can read stories about Japan, Indonesia, SKorea, etc IN ENGLISH without ever reading the atrocious things u read about China?? They also have Falun Gong practitioners in those country why didn’t Spain, Argentina, UK indict them of genocide and crimes against humanity?? Sop talking nonsense. Bye bye
oguntrading: falun gong is not just anti chinese government, it is against human beings.
its tenet is, when you are sick, dont go to hospital, just pray to our great leader (the yellow asian fvckface master Lee Hong Zhi).
come on, if i pray, i rather pray to the whiteface jesus.
Your case is a reminder to me again not to get drawn into an argument with some random guy on Nairaland as some of u guys think sideways and there is no way of making u to see that.
1) China is not the only country in the world. China is officially an atheist state and, far above almost any other country, has a well-established reputation for religious persecution and suppression.
2) China is a totalitarian state - the only way the party can stay in power is by monitoring and controlling what the citizens say and experience and by having neighbors spying on neighbors.
3) China is the cheap slave labor capital of the world. I wonder why u don’t argue it is US propaganda like everything else.
4) Parts of China are the most polluted places on earth. See below. That is also US propaganda!
5) Chinese are doing menial jobs all over US and more dying to get in. The lowest job an American will do in China is teach English.
6) Chinese eat all sorts of cockroaches and rats. That is also US propaganda!
7) Covid, the greatest catastrophe of our time, came into the world through China and could have been largely contained if they were not so dishonest and non-transparent about it
UNBELIEVABLE! How can someone be so obtuse and same time claim t be a “scientist”?! I’ll say the following for benefit of anyone else who happens to be reading this not for u as something is clearly wrong with how u think and there is no way of getting u to see that.
1) Something like rate of death from Covid CANNOT change much in a short period of May 7 to May21. Such demographic statistic takes time before showing any perceptible change. The only thing one can argue is that the original info is wrong - which in this case is not possible as the sources are impeccable.
2) Just same way Google is superior to Nairaland in doing a search so are top reputable publications superior to various niche publications. It is very rare indeed to have all top publications all be wrong about a subject because their very survival depends entirely on their reliability - which is why they must thoroughly investigate b4 publishing anything.
3) Doing a google search is the easiest way to find out what top publications are saying about a subject. Eg if a story appears on Gino’s blog, the easiest way to know for sure if it is true is to do a google search and see if it also appears in top publications.
4)My original point has been established: that Africans are NOT being spared because they are black as being black does NOT confer any special protection against Covid.
5) Don’t get drawn into an argument with some random guy on Nairaland as some of them think sideways which makes it a total waste of time - there is no way u can make them see that their entire thinking pattern is faulty.
fairfora: Lastly, the below link ( from a well-respected source) should do justice to the whole matter...this was released by the UK's government Scientific Advisory Body and NOT just a data gathering company like ONS which had been faulted in the UK on several occasions. I do not believe in your copy and paste habit. I work with facts as a scientist. This link was also clearly indicated on the E-medical Journal of which I am a subscriber.... I pay to get the journal every week. Check the date on the TimesUK...Thursday 21st May, 2020 and not 7th of May, 2020 as you have ignorantly posited to back your stale claims.
Cases emerge daily as earlier said and scientists do update themselves accordingly and that is why we are different from people like you....what you even claimed from the 7th of May's info was mainly a prediction, given the economically disadvantaged status of BAME and the early cases recorded vis a vis locations in the UK, in view of the scenarios and trends in the US as of that time, when compared to their white counterparts...predictions could change as new cases emerge. The scenario could change tomorrow as it's a norm in medicine but as of today, your information is far from being valid mr. man. After all, WHO made a similar...if not far worse prediction about Africa but you and I know it never worked out as predicted as of today.
I would have dwelt more on this, especially those ''other illnesses'' as mentioned in the link, which have made whites become more susceptible in recent times to covid-19 than BAME, but as you are not a scientist and someone who is too ignorant to accept facts...it would be needless doing all that. These are the facts on ground and not your insult-infested, stale claims.
Bros u indeed have no shame. I don’t know who u r trying to fool - maybe people casually reading this. Your big scientific source is The Times! Not only that the article made it clear their result was only AFTER taking certain things into account. Not only that, either way it does NOT say that being black confers any advantage against corona - which was my whole point.
Here is the exact quote from your Times article:
“Black and other ethnic-minority Britons are no more likely to die of Covid-19 than white people after taking into account the effects of other illnesses and deprivation, documents submitted to the government’s scientific advisers show.”
Read it. This time with understanding, then go to sleep
oguntrading: falu gong is a cult, the most close form in nigeria is boko haram.
falun gong seduces ppl to die before it brainwashes ppl's minds.
falun gong says, there is a falun, which is a wheel , in your tummy. use your bare hands to tear open your tummy and accept god.
when it comes to china, any information in english is biased. if you quote, quote chinese info.
Do yourself a favor and stop arguing this. U r making a fool of yourself. There are millions of Falun Gong practitioners all over the world including US. It’s very easy to get all the info u want or contact a practitioner instead of listening to CPC propaganda. This below is also US propaganda!
fairfora: As you could not explain but kept dodging the meaning of the word 'SPATE' as used in my previous post which you mistook for the word RATE, then I give up on you. let me correct you again Mr man. Your usage of the phrase 'out-to-lunch' is very wrong in this context because you are still in control of your sense of reasoning, even though you reason based on the past info.(it's a medical phrase commonly used in Psychiatry on reasoning faculties) Out-of-touch is the most appropriate in this context and this fits you well, because you keeping harping on stale information which the latest one has overridden. You simply reason like an average African, who rarely updates himself. From tomorrow, go back to google as usual for updated info and do not forget to come back here with your copy and paste stuffs .
BTW, had I assessed all your previous posts on NL, I wouldn't have bothered wasting my time on you up to this point because they're all the same. No further comments on this pls...case closed!
Of course u want no further comments because u r fully aware u r embarrassing yourself. This is your position: the death rate in UK went from 4:1 on 7th May to whites being higher on 25th May! U would have done better if u had said blacks were never higher. But u couldn’t say that because it is a fact - BBC, N Y Times, and WSJ can’t all be lying. Next time think b4 posting nonsense and making a fool of yourself!
fairfora: what's the meaning of the word "SPATE" ? Can't you ask google for help again? :
Olodo
This is one disadvantage of this type of forum - u may be unknowingly arguing with a totally out-to-lunch person. Here is what u wrote verbatim: “covid-19 is killing proportionately more blacks only in the USA”
It has now been clearly established u were talking nonsense. Now stop embarrassing yourself further and run along
Bahdsypha: As expected you'd get news about China from a news outlet in the USA...and expect me to believe You really need to go there and see it for yourself, like I've done..lol
If you've not been to Africa and you listen or watch these US news stations, you'd think Africans live on trees or huts, are stark illiterates, don't have internet and are severely malnourished
learn to be objective, see things free two different angles
Peace!!!
My friend the CPC maintains a doctrine of state ATHEISM. That is a fact! Keep deceiving yourself. The below is also US propaganda
fairfora: I meant SPATE and NOT RATE...another proof of your ignorance and sheer illiteracy. Which school did you attend? Stop embarrassing yourself ogbeni. You sound so un-informed.
What is he talking about? My friend RATE means PROPORTION. Since u don’t seem to even understand basics, let me explain: if there are a million white people in a place and 100 black people, and Covid kills 250,000 whites but only 50 blacks, it means it is killing blacks at DOUBLE the RATE of whites. The rate at which COVID is killing blacks in UK was higher than that of whites in January, higher in early May, and higher TODAY. Now stop talking stupid and run along
Bahdsypha: What is your definition of high standard of living? If it is great food, historical tourist sites, low crime rate, modern infrastructure, better public transport system, a great credit system.. ..then the standard of living in China is way way better than that of USA...like a million times better
You really need to visit these two countries by yourself before you judge
Stop arguing nonsense. Go to US you’ll see Chinese doing all sorts of menial jobs for a pittance, and more dying to get in. Go to China, capital of cheap slave labor, the most menial job you’ll see an American doing is teaching English. You think it is entirely by choice they eat all sorts of cockroaches and rats?
fairfora: You really need help intellectually. Your sheer ignorance cant help you . Unfortunately, I wouldn't help you in this regard since you claim you know better. It's obvious you're far from being a scientist. Your posts have proved that to me. New but strange cases emerge everyday on corona virus and that does not mean status quo has to be maintained. It does not work like that in science. London is a city with a sizable number of minorities in the UK( where you have mainly pakistanis, asians and blacks doing all sort of low-grade or cadre jobs).
The recent cases (as reported last Saturday May 24th on WSA and NOT your stale posts of May 7th which you copied on google) have shown a different trend in the spread of covi-19 with mainly white majority being affected with high fatality recorded outside London. The virus is spreading to the least expected locations where whites are mainly dominant.. In same vein, the medical journal also indicated that the majority of those affected in Brazil are whites ( there are also blacks in Brazil and a large number of people of Yoruba Descent whose forebears were enslaved from the west coast but have settled there, likewise other Africans) and the spread, if not checked, would place Brazil ahead of USA because of the spate of spread of the virus in the past week. Read WHO's recent release as well( but I doubt if you would dare look it up and read... as you only know how to copy and paste stale info from google with needless insults to support your ignorance) .I don't know why I had to come back to you on this...this is the last response I'd give you...Ignorance is far worse than covid-19.
My friend u have now proven beyond doubt that u r scientifically illiterate - u don’t even know the meaning of the word RATE! Go find out what that means. Also find out what the word PROPORTIONATEY means. Then go to sleep. U r disgracing yourself
fairfora: See this ignorant being, still posting May 7 stale news when there's an updated one as released 2 days ago, lol. People like you would never learn and the reason Buhari labelled you lazy youths. He was right anyway. If you need to learn, you ask for proofs and not prevail on stale information to support your ignorance. What the almighty WHO reported about covid-19 2 weeks ago is not valid as at today...I even wanted to help you by providing some facts as obtained from the "paid for" medical journal...which was why I came here this evening...but after reading your post, It would be needless and a waste of time doing so. A subscribed medical journal isn't available for free on google from where you rush go to copy and paste.
Get this into your skull: BEING BLACK DOES NOT REDUCE YOUR CHANCES OF DYING FROM CIVID-19!!! So we know Africans are not spared because that are black! Which was my whole point b4 you started posting rubbish. Just look at your reasoning: blacks died at 4 times rate of whites from January till May 7th, then it suddenly changed May 25 to whites rate being higher. Sometimes I wonder if you people ever think at all
Bahdsypha: Yes...pollution dey ooo You'd notice it oo But most of the problems there are faced by your "darling" america Please, I'm not saying that China is a perfect country What I'm trying to say is this, the US ain't saints..and are no better than the Chinese If there should be a cold war...it won't be good against evil
At least US is transparent and things are out there in the open. Nobody is trying to prevent u from saying, hearing or seeing anything. All that CPC control would make sense if it resulted in higher standard of living but it doesn’t. US is still higher
Bahdsypha: Maybe you have not been to China that's why you are saying these things Firstly, about the great firewall...everyone in china knows how easy it is to bypass it with a vpn You can visit all these websites with it Nobody is rubbing wechat or tiktok in your face please stop lying
U r the one that should stop lying. How many people even know what a vpn is. U forget we also have Chinese companies here and we know how they treat their black employees. Is this below is the China u r talking about or another one?
pacespot: Stop complaining. USA isn't the only country suffering from corona virus, it is not the first time that world has to face the pandemic problem, it has always been like that from history. USA is only trying to score cheap political points with this pandemic, we all know how they had started the trade war with China before the outbreak. It can be the turn of your country tomorrow the way USA and its Western allies often wage war against other countries. China is a population of over 1.4 billion people, how can USA with just 330 million people compete with China fairly at the economic space? Let's be realistic for once as Africans, and stop being a lapdog of the West.
Other countries don’t keep making noise and profiteering and warning people WHILE other countries were still going through the hell unleashed by a pandemic that came through them, which they exacerbated by dishonesty and non-transparency. China is at best a second world country. Certainly not a first world country
safarigirl: If I judged from her body language, I would conclude that she has a Russian boyfriend that she would rather not disclose to the public, just in case her Nigerian parents come across the video and have questions.
What others (Nigerian men) are saying, does not matter to me, because the average black man is renowned for elevating himself and denigrating black women, just like you're doing here.
I’m not denigrating her at all. Nothing I have said about her constitutes denigration. That she never had a boyfriend is just a fact she stated herself. U r the one forcing Russian boyfriend on her - infact u r the one denigrating her. I know from experience that a girl like her having been in Russia for 4 years under normal circumstances would have had relationships with marriage in view. That it never happened for her is not her fault
fairfora: I see.. I can see from your post that I OBVIOUSLY dont know what i was talking about and you know better lmao. You were making references to a stale information meanwhile, my fact was based on the recent statistics released last week. I'm anaesthetist and we get updated regularly about covid-19 . I dont believe in going to google, do copy and paste as you did. We share informations with colleagues worldwide. But since you have gone the google way, I'd also do the same based in the recent statistics( last week and NOT in April or early May). The number of blacks infected and died of covid-19 is less than 2% in the UK when compared with the other minority ethnic groups living in that country and the native Britons who also fell victim. Do not also forget the fact that economic disadvantage also contributed to the infection rate as seen in the USA among the minority individuals. I was also expecting you to use France and other countries I cited in my previous post including Germany as example but you were so quick to go to google and picked only UK. Please visit the site and read more. I'm off to work. When am less busy, I'd share the latest statistics with you as broken down into percentage of infection and fatality race by race in the UK in our medical journal. WHO's earlier predictions are also born a reality based on the recent statistics as the virus had spread more to white territories in recent times
Stop making a fool of yourself. U work in a hospital yet u don’t what’s going on. The following are THIS MONTH from all reputable news outlets
fairfora: covid-19 is killing proportionately more blacks only in the USA cos of the fundamental inequalities orchestrated by whites. The situation isn't the same in countries where you also find a significant number of blacks like Brazil , UK, France and Italy...I dont want to mention Spain and Russia where covid-19 spreads like wildfire because blacks aren't much in those countries. Going by the dimension the spread has taken so far in the hardest-hit countries and WHO's prediction, Africa ought to have been reduced by 20% by now in population. We should just thank God because we are least prepared .
U obviously don’t know what u r talking about. See below
Ola17: If censoring what Nigerians can access on the internet will give them a better standard of living so be it. The Chinese government understands their people and tailored their style of government, policies both domestic and foreign to suit their peculiarities and today they are better off for it. Nigeria with all her copy copy, where is she today? The world’s poverty capital while China with over a billion people are better off.
Greatest catastrophe of our time you say? Make we hear word! This is a natural disaster and that is all there is to it, if you think otherwise then the onus is on you to prove it. If for example an earthquake happens in the middle of River Niger and in Nigeria causing a tsunami that causes heavy damage in say Ghana, should Ghana be expecting an apology from Nigeria?
This IS the greatest catastrophe of our time. And u keep glossing over the fact that if China didn’t try to cover it up it could possibly could have been largely contained. Your anology is stupid. Your neighbor giving u corona is not anologous to an earthquake erupting near his house. A Chinese couple took corona to Italy. As for censoring, compare quality of life in China to free developed countries
If your neighbor unknowingly gives u corona he should be making noise and warning you while u r mortally sick in bed and missing work. Clap for yourself