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i think a combination of .Net and J2EE can be very good for some enterprise apps. especially those that are desktop based

SAP is an over engineered and very expensive product . There are free open source ERP systems out there these days

Just start learning. With time you will master the complexity and u will be able to churn out the code u want fairly quickly

guy i like your style. u be correct marketer

All these singing shows are they just plain boring

the show is ok

It was getting really boring when Slyar was a good guy. Last weeks ep has brought it back on track.

Prison break has been far far more interesting this season

You think it's easier in OOP is probably because that's what you're used to.  But it's not the only way, and it's not always the best or most user-friendly way.  Let's use the right tool for every job.

You are right. Using the right tool for the right job is the key to RAD. However from my experience procedural constructs are good only for the more trivial apps. The benefits of OOP begin to show when u start working on more complex problems(i.e could be an app with a web front end but the processes behind do not work with db tables. could be some type of workflow simulation or business rules execution).

Well most websites are not really that complex. you are just working with some type of data in a db in some way. So u might not neccessarily need to use OOP although it will help structure ur code neater if you do.

Thats why PHP wes invented. just hack away the code like mad and get the damn website working as fast as possible 

iice u seem to be a highly desirable commodity these days

Wow good work there. Go to see that people are starting to take up enterprenuership

On what basis are you people ranking them.  Research ? because i can't point to any tangible Research done by any of these unis
By the way i think the highest ranked nigerian uni (by research in africa) is like 200 !!  - uniben

@atomX

You can still do all this in a procedural langugue if you structure your app into modules and you have functions here and there but my point is that you can do it more easily in OOP especially when you want to inherit behaviour from other modules or classes or you want to build some kind of patterns for specific areas of your code

Methodology can be very difficult to comprehend for some of these guys

Very valid points

OOP concepts can be validly replicated in procedural

Methods ==> Functions

Objects ==> Modules



But what i think OOP gives you is the ability to do this more easily. It was developed to make it easier to structure your code properly.
I know you might not really need inheritance, polymorphism and other OOP concepts all the time.

But hey it is there for your use anytime an app outgrow the basic constructs.  Also sometimes after a couple of projects you might start to notice patterns developing in your code.
I haven't seen any research on procedural programming patterns but there are a couple of well know patterns in OOP which makes it very easy to build your apps for extensibility.

I agree with you about the need to always create objects in a languague like Java. Coming from a C background i enjoyed using "Struct" and i often wondered why it wasn't included in Java.


Tuples and list are just Lists in java but i have a problem with the fact that you can have mixed data type in them.  It will be very hard to find bugs that are based on you putting a wrong type in a tuple. i.e ur app expects a String but you have somehow added a number into the tuple

Dicts are just Maps or hashtables in java so nothing new here

What i think are really cool are Closures, dynamic objects and metaprogramming

[quote author=yawa-ti-de link=topic=205102.msg3196032#msg3196032 date=1228738330]6) Maybe because we have more "companies (as in individuals whose offices are in their briefcase)" as opposed to companies.[/quote]This is so true . I know a couple of guys like that. You see them carrying backpacks with 1000 cds all about lagos.

Probably because they feel local guys are not good enough

@seun

Python is a dynamic langugue and it offers features that are common to most dynamic langugues.

There is no point comparing its features with a static typed lang like java because they are built for solving two different types of problems.

OOP is all about defining classes , inheriting behaviour from other classes etc. If you have a lang that provides you a "Psuedo" way to acheiving this, then thats fine but to practice true OOP these concepts have to be strictly followed in some sense.

Also there was a reason why procedural programming is bad, Maintenance !!. It can be a nightmare maintaning a procedural codebase to if it was OOP. OOP offers a better way of modeling problems in a way that can be more understandable to the person who has to maintan the codebase.

ignorance is a disease

you can have a c# front end with a java back end and still be platform neutral in a way since most users might be using Windows anyways.

Why will anyone build desktop gui's with Java. Swing sucks big time. Using Java for desktop apps is just a share waste of time and effort when u can get it done in a fraction of the time using WinForms.

yea. There is even no exception handling so if i entered a string the whole program is gonna crash because of this
" int x=input.nextInt(); "

Do you know what object oriented programming is ?

You code is a very crude implementation of wht it is

Java is not the ultimate . no languague can lay a claim to that.

Its very crude but will still work if you call processAccount() from another class with a main method

Dear mama is the best for me

looking back to two years ago now. I think there are now probably better vidoes. But i still think that vid was tight

The end of humanity is near. Software and robots will take ove the world very soon

it was ok while it lasted. I will say Heroes is a better 4400 because both shows had similiar concepts

if u like c++ then use it.

The get the best brains because they can afford to pay them the best salary

guy which level are u studing for

You did Ethics in Level 1 you should know that you are violating the code of ethics by calling yourself a CFA level 1