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raumdeuter:
If you are naming Left Backs you will likely name Cucurela, Huijsen though not yet world class was the most sought after CB last window. Zubimendi is one of the better DM in the world, Yamal is a top 3-5 player in the world, Rodri is world class and can be back to world class soon

All those Barcelona boys play at a top club and regularly face top opposition, they also have a chemistry built which they can take to the NT and do well

Italian boys do not have the anyone outfield close to world class, they dont have any player than you might say is top 3-5 in his position, they dont even have a bunch playing together at top teams

So what do they have?

Please the only world class players for Spain are Yamal, Pedri and Rodri. The rest are just good players. I already told you having many players that play for one club has zero benefits.

You are still pushing a claim that’s already been picked apart and am not going to keep going in circles. The Bosnia starting lineup speaks for itself, apart from Retegui who had serious interest from top sides before running to Saudi for money, the rest are all playing at top clubs.

raumdeuter:
It can be, for example When Inter Milan won the CL in 2010, there was no Italian in their lineup, so the glory of that Inter Milan does not flow into their NT

Same now, Most of their clubs, the best players are foreigners.

You mentioned Spain they have like 5 starters who might come from Barcelona alone Pedri Gavi Balde, Yamal, Olmo, Fermin, Ferran Cubarsi, that is inbuilt automation with players who play together every week then sprinkle a few of Rodri, William, Huijsen Zubimendi, Cucurela

These are players who are starters and play in top 10 clubs Unlike Italy

It can be but currently it isn't that's why you had to go as far back as 2010. Over the last 6 seasons Italian clubs have gone to 7 European finals, the highest amongst the top leagues.

I asked how many world class players does Spain have not how many comes from one club. In the Euros finals vs England only one Barcelona player started for Spain. In the semi finals vs France only one as well so it's a pretty meaningless thing to even bring up.

Except Retegui who went to Saudi to chase the bag, the majority of the Italian 11 plays for top teams. Some are defending champions and champions league finalists.

raumdeuter:
These clubs are not representative of the National Team

If they ask you to mention an Italian player close to world class, you can only name Donnaruma and this situation has been like this for almost 10yrs

Or name how many Italian players who are key players at a top 10 club in Europe

Its mega embarrassing the state of Italian football, I spent hours discussing this with friends in the last 3 days especially for those of us who grew up with Italy being one of the top 3 footballing nations now missing world cup for 16yrs and wnt play a worl cup knockouts in 20yrs

Given how diluted and how easy they have made qualifications

How are Italian teams doing well in European competitions not representative of the Italian national team and the Italian leagues?


You could make a case for Bastoni and Barella. Di Marco is also one of the best fullback/wing backs around. I could also ask you how many Spanish players are world class or close to being world class. At most 2 and half considering Rodri is just getting back to full fitness and yet they are tipped as one the best national team currently so your argument is already faulty. Almost ten years is from 2016, they won the Euros in 21.

Not making the world cup for 3 consistent edition is embarrassing for a nation like Italy but the narrative is getting overblown. Hire a good coach and give him years to build his team.

Baggio and Capello are taking their condemnations too far. An Italian team has gotten to the final of the last 3 editions of the champions league twice despite the last one being embarrassing. The league has gotten more exciting with different winners. Even in other European competitions Roma, Atalanta and Florentina have gotten to finals recently. The problem with the national team is having no world class attacking main man like Mbappe or even Kane and appointing disappointing coaches.

Its shameful that countries like Curacao, Iraq and Uzbekistan gets to go the world cup while top nations like Italy and others get to miss out. Countries that are just there to fill in the numbers while doing absolutely nothing worthwhile. The scorelines are going to be embarrassing.

pkasso:
My guy! It's been a while. So you support the Azzurri? I had always thought you were on the Die Mannschaft train with the rest of us Bayern guys.

Of course Germany is and will always remain my first footballing nation.

Silly me we play either Wales or Bosnia if we make it through Ireland. One more goal to make it safe.

Griffon:
I’ll rather go:

Kante, Tchouameni and Camavinga in midfield. Then Olise at RW, Dembele ST, Mbappe LW.

On current form, Thuram has no right to start ahead of Olise in a front three.

That is a deadbeat midfield. It's going to be an eyesore.

Gattuso should allow this team attack more. Two more goals should be enough to guarantee a spot at the world cup.

Declan rice dropping another stinker in an important game. English hype is just covering him.

I said it before we should have sacked this man immediately he lost to this average Arsenal team back to back.

Rest in peace Chuck Norris. The legend is gone.

I still don't understand why Nagelsmann is obsessed with calling Sane & Goretzka everytime while leaving out Angelo stiller who Madrid are going after. At this rate he won't even make the world cup squad. Sane is finished and shouldn't be getting called up.

We should have sacked this baby coach immediately he lost to this average Arsenal team back to back.

Bluelines69:
James has done his hamstrings, na till World Cup be that

I just hope the new contract doesn't include any sort of payrise. He has not even justified his current salary.

Amethyst101:
Na when e reach Chelsea matter the FA will getting erectionnnss and unnecessary hard-ons
We have been hearing about Citeh's 115 charges for how many years now, yet nothing to show as punishment for it

Mtcchheewwww

How are the two situations even remotely similar? Chelsea under BlueCo uncovered those fraudulent transactions and practices from the Roman Abramovich era and voluntarily reported them to the Premier League and UEFA. The club cooperated fully and accepted responsibility for any wrongdoing. The FA didn’t come after us, we reported ourselves.

City have done the exact opposite. They took the Fa to Court.

I never rated diaz that highly while at Liverpool but damn what a clutch signing for Bayern. 35G&A for the season.

pkasso:
I dey beg you in the name of God.

No

Jackson red card. Dumb ........Kusen please take out your key players and rest them for Wednesday. This game is already finished.

If we get knocked out on Wednesday then I want Bayern to go all the way but still not convinced they have it in them.

Leverkusen giving Bayern a tough game as expected. Don't burn all your energy, you have a must win game on Wednesday.

Valverde is the definition of an average midfielder covered by Madrid hype. There's absolutely nothing special about him as a midfielder. Uruguayan Gallagher with better finishing and Pr.

I still cant understand how we keep losing to this Arsenal team. They are a very poor and boring team.

I am dumbfounded we lost to this terrible Arsenal team.

Genuinely if Liam lose today he should be sacked.

MorataFC:
Which of the Leverkusen ?
😂😂😂
If that happens, FBI or maybe the NCA should arrest Arteta and lock him up without trial.

You just saw Bodo glimt knock out Inter Milan. Leverkusen and Schick will knockout Arsenal.

Unlimited22:
E don set.

Leverkusen will knock out Arsenal. You heard it here first.

Perfect draw. I can't wait for us to knock out Enrique. Galatasaray is going to knock out Liverpool so I already see us in the semis.

Miss me with this over the top outrage. A lot of black players today are far too quick to run to social media over online abuse. Football has always come with criticism and insults, especially after bad performances.


Players of all backgrounds get flooded with nasty messages every matchday, If the white players should show you their dms it will be double of whatever insults black players receive. yet most deal with it privately and move on. Random internet trolls throwing insults shouldn't even bother you one bit. A nobody on Instagram called you a monkey so what. Now you are victim of oppression lmao. If that is racism then the word racism has lost all meaning.

By the way shout-out to Gallagher for being a useless player.

I knew it was coming. They were so open and begging for Arsenal to score. Hope they get relegated.

Adebayor has to be at least 6ft5