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AHCB:
Christians have become stuck up with all forms of immorality and moral decadence.

From the way they act today, I really don't believe they believe in Heaven and Hell.

So to your question OP. Hypocrisy and double standard happened. For this is the way of the modern Christian in Nigeria.

hahn:
The aim of his story was to point out just how silly theists argument can be. That's all

hahn:
You obviously don't understand the analogy.

hahn:
It makes perfect sense as an ANALOGY

HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO COMPARE SOMETHING OBSERVABLE AND EASILY PHYSICALLY CALCULATEABLE TO PEOPLE'S RELIGIOUS B E L I E F S

Firefire:
Anyway, RIP in advance to Nigerians who will die from stray bullets & accidental discharge and labeled ballot snatchers.

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

joseph1013:
DEBATING THEISTS: WHAT IT'S REALLY LIKE

Arguing with some theists can be very frustrating. Honestly, it's not because they have arguments that are unanswerable nor is it because they constantly come up with new arguments that challenge our intellects.

On the contrary, every argument for God I've ever heard is as holey as a finely made doughnut and I have not heard a new argument in the last 5 years.

To help theists understand what it feels like to argue with a theist, I came up with an analogy. Imagine you're in a local market and the tomato seller gives you the wrong change. You point out her error but she denies it and insists the change is correct.

It's as clear as daylight that she's made a mistake so you go through it step-by-step, I gave you a N1000.00 note, my shopping came to N700.00, so I need N300.00 change. "No sir," she replies, "N1000.00 minus N700 is N300.00."

For a moment, you doubt yourself and redo the arithmetic in your mind. You give an embarrassed laugh,

"N1000.00 minus N700 is N300.00".
"No it isn't".

What do you do next?

Debating on social media, there is a limit to the number of times you can repeat the logic. You can try putting it a different way, you can make explicit steps you might have implied but eventually you arrive at deadlock and frustration.

There are different ways you can proceed from here. I normally step away and resolve not to debate that person again. Some atheists lose their cool and swear or resort to insults. That's regrettable and I wish they wouldn't.

But you might ponder what you would do if the tomato seller situation actually happened to you. Oh boy, it would be very hard to stay calm and polite.

I wonder how many people would manage it?

MissRaine69:
Hunger is slaying the “Queens”

amyblessed:
Most of everything we do is by faith. If you dont have the faith that you will come back when you are going out, you wont tell people you are coming back, or make arrangement of what you will do when you come back. Faith is that believe that you will come back.
I THINK THE PROPER WORD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS "HOPE".

Likewise when you sleep, you have the faith that you will wake up, etc. Now, that is the faith God wants us to approach Him with, though you haven't seen Him, but you believe He exists. And He will manifest Himself to you.
God manifests Himself to people in different ways, the way He manifested Himself to me may not be the way He will manifest Himself to you.
I'M YET TO SEE HOW YOU WITH YOUR BELIEFS AND FAITH AND GRACE IN YOUR PREFERRED GOD (YHWH) IS BETTER THAN THE REST OF US AND OTHER NONBELIEVERS OF YHWH.
OH.. YOUR REWARD AND ENJOYMENT IS IN HEAVEN WHILE WE SHALL INHERIT HELL. HAHAHA

MollyBank:
Lmao publicity stunt to get you all to tune in and watch the match.

They always prep them to make it controversial....The gotta sell those tickets.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Same can be said of the menfolk they get the respect if they earn it and not demand it.
As for the other paragraph I have no regards for women who keep mute or fold their arms when they are being abused by men physically,emotionally,verbally etc and are told to endure it.You see it is vice versa

Ladyhippolyta88:
Some bush men have no respect for women that serves him right.

when next he sees women he would respect them........

Elder0001:
OP you lack wisdom.

Hermes019:
There are so many interesting things in this post but I don't want to leave the topic so the conclusion of what u have said is this

YHWH is omnipotent and had everything it takes to save the girl but didn't because he CHOSE not too
The difference between you and I is very simple,even if there is none u could think of you would always believe that YWHW had a justifiable reason for allowing that to happen but I don't think so.I feel that since he is supposedly omnipotent he can always do what he wants to do without causing pains to people.

I would love to ask you this question and I wish you would be honest with your reply,again I also plead that you give me a "Yes" or "No" answer first before going ahead to give your explanation

Still on the story I shared,Assuming this ordeal is about to repeat itself and this time your daughter would be the victim,unfortunately you had an accident and you are in coma so you can't intervene in the real life and Yahweh appears to you and asks you to make a choice(again remember this is an assumption ) ,if you ask him to intervene he would prevent it from happening,but if you ask God to do things the way he wants (ie not interferring with "free will as you said),then that means this same ordeal that Junko Furuta faced would certainly happen to your daughter,what would your response be ?
WOULD YOU ASK HIM TO INTERVENE ?



P.S Please,please and please don't make this your response a twisted one,I can't force you but please answer yes or no first before giving your explanation

kkins25:
Meanwhile God, jesus and the holy spirit were enjoying a game of chess.cant believe I dropped tears to this write up. My atheism fuel tank is full

LordReed:
A sad disgusting tale that evokes a lot of emotions including a feeling of wanting to throw up. According to the religious, their gods look upon such things day in, day out and are not moved to intervene in any meaningful way except to maybe commit suicide or give a prophet a trip to the moon. If one tale can move humans to disgust, why is a being able to see a million such tales every single day unmoved?

Love must have a strange meaning to this supposed god.

Hermes019:
I don't know if you have come across the story of the murder of Junko Furuta,so many threads have been created about that and even though I wouldn't advise you to read it because of how graphic and dehumanising it is I would have to pick points from it.
I am an atheist,but I would describe myself as agnostic if God means "Creator of the universe" with nothing else attached to that definition. I know a lot of christians,muslims and other people who believe in God regard atheists as insolent,arrogant,immoral doubters who want to be free to live the way they like,well I wouldn't make a case against that but I want you to see another side to it.
Going back to the Junko Furuta story.I would describe it as one of the worse things to ever happen to anyone much less a teenage girl, I have been living with the awareness that " God does not exist"(going by the conventional definition of God) for 3 years now but even if I were to imagine that God as people describe to be exists I would have nothing but indignation and spite for it. You may think of me as an a$$hole or whatever u think of atheists as, but I can not convince myself that there was someone humane to say the least (God) who could have intervened while she was going through this ordeal but CHOSE not to .There were other persons who were aware of what was happening,maybe not in details but knew she was captured and did not intervene or report to the police due to fear,guess what happened to them,they were punished which means their nonintervention was considered wrong even though they had reasons not to intervene,but I guess God can never be wrong so we can't use the same scale for him. What is even worse is that she(Junku Furuta) must be burning in hell right now(since she is not a christian) and the perpetrators of this crime have all left jail,some didn't even serve up to 10 years and if any of them were to give his life to Christ he would go to heaven when he dies,VERY JUST IF YOU ASK ME

Junku's story is just one of countless cases of very gruesome experiences people have gone through,there are even worse cases,she was someone's daughter, God(if he exists as you say) had the wherewithal to save her but CHOSE not to do so,some christians would say he has his reasons,of course he always does,some even dumber persons would say "God gave us freewill", of course he did,and she used hers nicely and gave her consent when her nipples were chopped off so its not God's fault.

I may be the satanist you think I am since I am an atheist,but I can never serve a being(if such exists)that beheld that event occur and chose not to save her,if not directly(since it loves peek a boo) at least by causing the cops to appear or something like that, I can not even think of such a being as being anywhere close to the moral standard of an average human much less describing it as " All loving".

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jesusjnr:
Jesus said:

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Luke 6:46-49 (KJV)

Now this question Jesus asked the people showed that it was wrong to do that, because for Him to truly be the Lord of anyone then they must obey His Words.

And Jesus was very specific as He didn't talk about any other person's word here, but His own Words.

For that determines if he's truly one's Lord, or not, for it's not by mouth saying, but by obeying.

Martinez39:
So this is why atheists say there is no god. Shift make I enter, life no be a serious something.

TODAY NA TODAY.
IF YOU NUT I NUT... WE KEEP ROTATING, ENOUGH LOTION DEY.

hahn:
You want to pray to the same god that has been giving us corrupt, self centered leaders since 1960?

Martinez39:
Half bread is sha better than none.

Elder0001:
It should’ve been gender neutral. What about women who assault their husbands?

dominique:
So it is now a taboo for women to buy gifts for their men?

WOMEN HARDLY BUY MEN ANYTHING. ESPECIALLY IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU KNOW THIS.

stupidity:
“Show me pvssy”

Martinez39:
Nobody believed the Black Swan because there were no evidences to support it's existence, that's rational of them. They then changed their minds when they saw sound evidence for the Black Swan, that's completely rational of them.

I would expect the same from people when it comes to the existence of god. Martinez39 doesn't believe in the existence of god because there are no evidences to support such, that's rational. Martinez39 will only believe in god if you provide sound evidences for his existence. If I go by your logic, I would say that there are two dragon eggs on CAPSLOCKED's head and you should believe it because, just like the Black Swan, it exists even though people haven't seen sound evidences for their existence yet.

DRAGON EGGS.

Amakavula:
Read about the Black Swan CAPSLOCKED you will understand why I believe in God. Nobody believe the black swan existed, and every swan was white until they were found in Australia.

VERY GOOD. WE'LL BELIEVE IN GOD WHEN WE FIND IT/HE/HER IN AUSTRALIA.

IMAGINE THESE CLOWNS OH LORD. BECAUSE THERE ARE BLACK SWANS THERE MUST BE GOD?
OR BECAUSE NOBODY BELIEVES THERE'S A FLYING HORSE, THEN A FLYING HORSE IS LATER DISCOVERED, THAT MEANS THERE MUST BE GOD?

WHY CAN'T WE ALL CHILL UNTIL WE DISCOVER GOD THE SAME WAY WE NEWLY DISCOVER ANIMALS AND PLANETS.

YOU EQUATE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD TO EXISTENCE OF ANIMALS, THAT ALREADY EXISTS ON THE PLANET, BUT DOESN'T EXIST IN OUR BOOKS UNTIL THEY'RE DISCOVERED. THAT YOU DO THIS SHOWS HOW LOW YOU CAN GO TO PROVE THAT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE DON'T REASON PROPERLY

There are instances of Magic and Juju so therefore there has to be a God .