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Nihilist:
Mehn good luck in your endeavour bruv. Im still observing the system and will see if Its conducive to enter for me in enter in a few years.

Oh boy enter market sharp sharp o. Don't let this opportunity pass you by. The one regret I have is not entering a few years ago. A very close uni friend of mine took that risk and is now reaping the rewards.

No Farking Party here tonight kmt. I guess extending the party at the gaynner's thread will do for now.

fredoooooo:
Sorry Bros take one Koro go home

Koro for white hart lane? Make one of those braap braap boyz catch me for corner abi? Mba nu

White Hart Lane is buzzing. Road blocks all over the dam place. Bloody Yids!

fredoooooo:
Bros abeg go and comot that ya hanged football boot , China fit still pay money o

Looooool.....Odikwa risky o

birdman:
google is your friend. his coach claimed he didnt "cut" him, he just put him on the jv team. That is like telling NBA starter to go to NBDL...its not a "cut", just a demotion na . Like your teacher telling you to repeat primary 6 while your mates are going to JSS1. Its not a "cut" o, its just that you are 2 years younger than everybody and it is rare for you to make JS1

Bottomline, it was a diss, and it fueled Jordan. Feel free to google the definitive forbes article on the issue. even in front of the coach, jordan repeated the slight.

Nah it's one of those old skool myth used to hype up and push the Jordan brand. Back in those days, most sophmores did not make the varsity team unless you had an advantage of some sort. Unfortunately a 5feet 11 Jordan at that time had no physical advantage.

I have read articles where Jordan's coach at that time denied it too. Ofcourse Jordan was always going to play up to the media. Any news that will sell more J's is most welcomed

SIRcumalot:
am done with it too that is why am not actively participating in this renewed one.
I don't know what to say in favour of LBJ that I haven't already said or anything in Kobe favours that I never read for this board or heard in real life.
my original point was that if ESPN is filled with LBJ fan boys what about SI?
you should check foxsports ranking too.
but I no expect you or any other Kobe fan to change anymore than I would.

Most sensible and reasonable BB sites don't have Kobe in their top 10 and rightly so. Kobe Stans would like still to argue otherwise though.

birdman:
But if MJ had LBJ's body, I would say MJ never wins 6 rings. Because the road would be much easier. He would never have been cut from his varsity team, and the pistons would not have been able to bully him early in his career..

Are we still pedalling this lie? MJ was not cut from his varsity team. It was simply rare for sophmores to make varsity teams back then.

52M F#$$ING MILLION FOR F@#$ING OSCAR. The mind boggles.

raumdeuter:
Looks like you are seeking attention desperately. Wait when its your IQ level

TOUCHE!

Can we at least wait til the end of the season to determine who is overrated and who's not? One thing is clear though, If the season were to end tomorrow, both Jose and Pep will be seen as failures. They both would have failed to achieve what they set out to do at the beginning of the season WIN THE LEAGUE.

Almost 10 pages of waffling over the word "OVERRATED". My good gawd!

raumdeuter:
You will know about those fat players, I think Peps dislike for fat people might be a reason you have this vendetta against him

MECHIONU!.....

Ibime has lost all his baby fat abeg

IamProfessorval:
Okocha is even (said to be) better than Ronaldinho, but who is more sucessful?
Okocha had enough talent to help him acheive much more than he achieved.

Whoever said that apart from quack Nigerian Journalists?

Elber is a funny one. He was really unlucky in that his peak years co-incinded with O Fenomeno's hence He hardly got an opportunity to showcase his talents.

A40:
I have no business with his celebrity lifestyle. The likes of Scholes and Keane were far more crucial for United than the flashy Beckham. In attack Yorke and Cole were also there. United had players that year that were better and more influential than Beckham.

Scholes and Keane Were missing during the most game of the season. UEFA and FIFA both agree on one thing. Beckham was united's best player that season. They both can't be wrong at the same time. Give credit to whom it is due abeg

raumdeuter:
Anyone can win local awards in their league, Hazard won EPL best, Messi/Ronaldo probably lost La Liga best. Meaning that season Hazard his league award, Messi/Ronaldo not their league best.

What levels everyone is the performance in continent not bamboozling players in your league

That's a silly analogy though. Every man and His dog knows Hazard is not a patch on that duos level. Both Nesta and Pique never won the UEFA DEFENDER OF THE YEAR. There is nothing to bring up there.

A40:
Awards he did not deserve we keep telling you. 2001 was even worse and a lot more laughable. We wiped the floor with him and United home and away and I would easily name 3-5 midfielders that were better than him that season but somehow, someway Beckham ended up with 2nd.

I know better than to judge players with individual awards

Beckham wholly deserved all his awards in 1999. Don't let hatred for his celebrity lifestyle cloud your judgement. He was United's best player in the CL that season. UEFA and FIFA both seem to agree. He was smashing it left, right and centre that year.

raumdeuter:
If he was on the field when they won only God knows how many of his teammates girlfriends he will shaggg

This shyte is funny . You are still wrong though

raumdeuter:
Serie A defender of the year is just a local award in the league, what awards did Nesta win in the continent when compared to Pique

I choose to count both Local and international awards, you don't. An award is an award. You can't be shifting posts when it does not suit your line of reasoning.

raumdeuter:
Who are these coaches the world over? 75% of them dont even know anything about football, Africa has 54 nations voting Asian has another over 50(Kazakhstan, Tajikistan), Oceania (has Fiji Tahiti Papau New Guinea) these are the type of people who are voting Beckham for FIFA awards while the Man utd faithfuls who watch games daily voted Roy Keane as their player of the year

Cos they saw that without Roy keane Juventus would be the team playing in the CL finals Not Man Utd

Let me state this again. Coaches voted him 2nd in the FIFA ranks. Euro Journalist also voted him 2nd in the Balon D'or rankings. Can they both be wrong? Any nonentity,dog and alien can claim to be a United fan and vote on a site. Let Keane keep his United Fan player award. I'm sure Beckham is not complaining

A40:
Why didn't he ever replicate this 'feat' for his country. Beckham was not even the best player at United in 98/99. No wonder English players keep failing even with these individual awards. They are like a First class awardee that can't defend his/her result

We are talking about country here. Besides as already said many times here, there was no international tourney that year bar the Copa America. Dude was a beast throughout that season and He rightfully finished second behind Rivaldo. 2001 might have been contentious but 1999 Mba Nu. Let's give credit to whom it's due abeg. He was sweeping up awards left, right and centre.

raumdeuter:
Fans watch the teams every match. How many man utd matches do you think a coach of Togo will watch? Maybe just the star match alone while the fans watch every game

That's why some coaches were still voting Beckham for awards till 2010 or voting muller in a year he did nothing

Dayo If those awards were voted by the likes of the Togolese coaches alone, you would have had a point. Coaches the world over saw it fit to award Beckham second place in the FIFA voting. So did journalists in europe in the Balon D'or votings. Are you trying to tell me something I am dearly missing?

raumdeuter:
List the individual awards they won and let's compare it to pique

Nesta's 5 Serie A defender of the year at a time Serie A had the best defenders in world football plus Stam's 2 UEFA defender of the year awards trumps Pique's individual honours

Ibime:
Roy Keane did not even play UCL final so WTF are you talking about?.

Not only He played only 10minutes in the FA CUP Final before going off injured. Not forgetting He got himself foolishly sent off in the FA Cup Semi Final replay which could have cost his side dearly.

Ibime:
Beckham was honoured by UEFA (midfielder of the year), FIFA (2nd in WPOTY) and all the top journalists in Europe (Balon D'or 2nd place). Three different bodies, and you are here talking nonsense.
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Might I also add the UEFA PLAYER OF THE YEAR to his list of awards that year too.

raumdeuter:
Because the club fans watch them closely compared to the coaches from Fiji tahiti who dont watch games

I will trust the opinion of the club fans on who the best player in a team is than anyone else who dont watch them closely. Unless Beckham was playing for another club other than Man Utd in 1999

E.g Thomas Muller was nominated for this years Balon dor but ask any Bayern fan they will tell you Muller shouldnt even be a top 7 player in Bayern or Germany in the year 2016. WHich is why people who know, know its all a popularity contest.

Muller is popular and will always get nominated even when he doesnt deserve it

Whilst you trust the opinions of Fans, I prefer the judgement of seasoned Coaches and journalists. They have no emotional attachment to any one player. They simply pick who in their opinion is the best.

The Fans say He doesn't, Uefa and Fifa says He does. Who am I to judge eh?

raumdeuter:
I am sure the Man Utd fans who voted Keane ahead of Beckham were all influenced by Dayo. They probably werent watching the Man Utd matches to see that Keane was their most important player

The Fans award is even more of a popularity contest than any awards. The Fan will simply just vote their favourite. Anyhoo it is what it is. Fans adjudged Keane to be their best whilst Uefa begged to differ.

raumdeuter:
Surely Nesta never won UEFA defender of the year and the award has been scrapped for the past 6yrs when Pique was hitting his peak

Yh Stam won it twice. Both of them still had more Individual awards than Pique though

raumdeuter:
He was such a beast that Man Utd fans didnt notice and chose Keane, He was such a beast that PFA voters didnt notice and chose Yorke or Ginola

Thats an example of a player who doesnt have on the field performance to show, they hide behind rigged awards just liek Terry

If those awards are popularity contest as you call it, David would have walked away with both the UTD and PFA awards as we all know Beckham was and still is the world's most famous footballer.

Dayo no awards was rigged.
UEFA MIDFIELDER OF THE YEAR
UEFA PLAYER OF THE YEAR
FIFA WORLD FOOTBALLER OF THE YEAR 2ND PLACE
BALON D'OR 2ND PLACE.

All in the same Year. No be joke abeg.

raumdeuter:
How has Ibime answered that Keane was awarded the best player in Man Utd, Yorke was best player in the league or Ginola

Why didnt Beckham win any of these? He was in the PL, He was a Man Utd player, No International tournament yet Beckham was FIFA 2nd best

Explain how that was other than Beckham was voted for non football related reasons

These awards are most times tight so they can go either way. Btw need I remind you Beckham won not only UEFA Best Midfielder award in 1999, He also won the UEFA Player Of the Year award. So according to UEFA not Dayo, He was the best player in the Champions League that year. Yorke might have performed slightly better in the league, but overall Beckham was better. FIFA and UEFA can't be wrong and Dayo right

raumdeuter:
UEFA team of the year Pique 4, Nesta 4 , Stam 2
FIFPro Pique 3, Nesta 2, Stam 1

I'm pretty sure one if not both of them have won UEFA defender of the year something Pique has never won. Also Sandro won countless Serie A defender of the year awards.

raumdeuter:
So where are the two assists you told us about.

He didnt do any more than Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Yorke, Stam and Schmeichel in the treble winning team

Thats why I say the wards are popularity contests

Keane won the Manchester United player of the year,
Yorke was PFA player of the year
yet a player from Manchester United who couldnt beat Keae at the club awards nor beat Yorke at the league awards was 2nd at FIFA awards

How is it possible you arent the best in the club, you are not the best in your league but you are 2nd in the world

Ibime has already answered you. That's the way things work out at times i'm afraid. If memory serves me right David Ginola even won one of those awards that year. The right people win these awards the MAJORITY of the time so for me it's not really a popularity contest. If you are good enough, you'll win atleast one of these awards.