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ahiboilandgas:
even dangote attended koki almajiri school...

Some homeless people in Lagos went on to buy duplexes in Lagos and other areas

Barrytone:
You see AKS, last last you go family house or squat with friends but nobody lives in the streets. Not seen. Rent is even cheap here, we have cleaner and newer bridges now courtesy of Akpabio but nobody lives there. All you see under our bridges is beautiful flowers. Am in Uyo and typing from Uyo

I wonder if it’s the same Nigeria where people struggle to feed that you are talking about. Being homeless does not necessarily mean living under bridges. Have you visited all the parks in Akwa Ibom at night? Uncompleted buildings etc. People are so detached.

IamR:
Almajiri are not homeless.

What is your definition of homeless and where do they live

hustla:
Ask him what he wants to do in canada, skills he has , what he has learnt and what he knows
..Or else, he will come back on nairaland and join the 'abroad is tough brigade'


A lizard in Nigeria will never turn to a crocodile abroad.


Best way to go about it is to visit the travel section, there is a thread dedicated to Migrating to canada / PR

Exactly lol...

ahiboilandgas:
na only Lagos people dey under bridges but other states with 2k per months u don get room ...no body is homless in osun ,ekiti ,kaduna,kano,jigawa,kogi,niger,plateau,katsina etc

Are we talking about the same north of homeless almajiris running into millions? Looks like the rich in Nigeria are really detached from the plight of the poor that’s why you hear such statements as there is no homeless in Akwaibom

Barrytone:
Are nigerians homeless? Apart from mad people, almost every body has a roof over their heads. As a Nigerian, how many homeless people do you know because I know non in Akwa ibom.

This is such an elitist statement. You are not different from the average Nigerian politician

dake40:
There are dudes making it big. But MORE dudes from first tiers are still struggling with $1k monthly goal. Internet marketing is not all about YOUR LOCATION. It's about your experience. . If you are trully experienced, limitations will be the last thing on your mind.

Yes, Nigerians are making it BIG in Affliate marketing. Dont expect me to start mentioning names. There are lots of ways to make MONEY ONLINE. Affilite marketing is JUST 1 out of thousands.

Payoneer is better than Paypal for Internet Marketers.I think you dont understand this part. I meant, An average Nigerian will prefer to be paid into Payoneer than Paypal. If you deny this, probably you're still new.



Reasons why Payoneer is better tha Paypal for NIGERIAN IMERS (FOR WITHDRAWAL/SAVING OF FUNDS)

1. You can withdraw funds to Your local/Dom account with SUPERB RATES or sell to Exchangers @420/$. You can never sell paypal higher than 330-360/$


2. You are sure of Headches and HBP if you use Paypal. If they havent visisted you, wait for it. Payoneer will give you less to no stress.

3. Online customer chat

Payoneer beats paypal handsdown

4.. Paypal charges very high rate as transfer fee compare to Payoneer FOR ALMOST NOTHING

5. You get a Payoneer card to withdraw on ANY ATM. Paypal doesnt fully support Nigeria, so no card.

Bros, many advantages over Paypal for Nigerian Internet marketers.

The fact that you are against the bypassing of the blacklisting of Nigerians online but support Paypal that does not fully support Nigerians over Payoneer is very satisfying

You are not the one to tell me about this because I know I have far more experience than you on this topic!
You are still dancing around the point, so I don’t intend to engage you any further on this. What I wanted to show you was that many people in tech earn over $200k usd/month.. from YouTube, to affiliate marketing, to cpa, social media etc.. And also there is no one who makes that much from Nigeria.

That’s the only thing I wanted to establish and I believe I’ve done that! You can continue believing whatever you want.

dake40:
I'm not confusing myself and i'm not advising people to bypass the restrictons. I'm just trying to let you know that there are always options..... I use MORENICHE and yes, they accept Nigerians. I'm trying to make you understand that YOU DONT NEED TO MOVE TO FIRST TIERS BEFORE YOU MAKE IT IN TECH . The fact that you are from First tier does not mean the companies you mentioned wont give you problems. The keword is

Testing and keep testing... Go over to BHW. Lots of Affiliate companies looking for people to promote their offers. If you have the the right auience, THERE ARE AWAYS AFFILIATE OFFERS/WEBSITES AVAILABLE on https://www.offervault.com/ Offers that WILL ACCEPT Nigerians

There are no limits bro if you know what you are doing And yes, Payoneer is better than Paypal for IM. If you a Nigerian IM. I shouldnt be telling you that.

So you know about BHW and you’ve been arguing with me all along. You’ve not seen so many people making the figures I stated there? Maybe you are not reading enough. I don’t want to say so many things here but I’m talking to you from experience. I’ve done all these, I also use/used moreniche but I can tell you it’s not even major in the business.. Most of the major ones have Nigeria blacklisted that’s why you hardly see a Nigerian making it big there like the foreign counterparts.
I know so people that earn over $50k/month on some of these sites alone. And yes Paypal is far better than Payoneer. You only prefer payoneer because that’s the one that’s available to you. If you are using B because you can’t use A, it doesn’t mean if you have opportunity to use A you won’t, if not people will not be doing everything possible to bypass the restrictions.

ahiboilandgas:
weldone patriotic American....we dey hail u

I’m not patriotic to anyone. I’m patriotic to my self

Manwarrior55:
Oga why shouldn’t he evade tax ?

Pay tax in USA and you see it with good roads and a system that is working, pay tax in Nigeria and you just got another minister richer.

And those expatriates will definitely love Nigeria cause of the preferential treatment they get for being White, Trust me you won’t get that treatment if you leave your state and move to another state to work in this same Nigeria.

The truth is that Nigeria is a bad place, a very bad place especially for Nigerians and we need to start seeing it for what it is and stop lying to ourselves abeg.

People are coming here to show fake patriotism lol. Why won’t a Chinese for instance not want to leave Nigeria when he moves around with several police escorts and treats Nigerians like trash in their own country?
This fake patriotism is why Nigeria will never get better because the docile population love the status quo. Everyone wants to get rich and intimidate the other person. That’s the Nigerian dream. That’s why a governor can simply wake up and demolish someone’s hard earned investment.

dake40:
Mark Angel targets Nigerian audience. If you run ads online, you can target any specific country. No big deal.......

See, comedy doesn't pay much on ads. Tech reviews, Auto, Travels, Real estate are among the best paying niches because affilliate will pay more to get leads. People watch comedy to get chilled, nothing more, so comedians don't make much irrespective of their countries because they have low cpc.



Payment processors, Affilate companies blacklisting Nigerians does not mean Nigerians don't use them. Nigerians still use PayPal, clickbank and all companies you even think of mentioning.. Payoneer is even more better, gives better rates and rest of mind than PayPal. Most affiliate companies pay with Payoneer. Payoneer works in Nigeria (I use them)

Even if one company rejects Nigeria, there are far better options that will welcome Nigerians.

There is no limitations to what you can achieve in tech.

You are the one confusing yourself. That people are using it illegally means it’s not allowed. When you are found you could lose all your earnings. So that’s the limitation.

Paypal is still better than Payoneer for many reasons. That people are using other methods to access these Nigeria blacklisted sites shows they are still better than others!

There are many limitations to what you can achieve in tech, I’ve given you an example of Nigerians being blacklisted which limits us, there are many others.

You didn’t seem to understand my analogy on Mark angel, I suggest you read it again

dake40:
I have read your previous comments. I STRONGLY believe You dont NEED to relocate to first tiers before you make it big in Tech. It's called Tech for a reason. There are many Tech dudes in Nigeria making it bigger than MOST first tier countries contemporaries.

Do you need to live in USA before you list your app on Google playstore?. NO

I live in Nigeria and work with MOSTLY clients from USA.

You said you have proof of Youtubers earning 100k, Did they show you proof of their earnings?

I challenge you to show me proof of 10 Youtubers making 100m per week. I will show you 1m Youtubers that are struggling to make $100 per month. Most of these guys are still in the game because they have strong passions.

BIG Youtubers earn MORE from Product promotion, On average, 1m views on Youtube adsense could give you between $1k to $10k. Tell me, how many Youtubers get 1m views in 1 week?

Perherps, you need to make a research to understand how Adsense works. It's calculated based on Location of visitors, Niches, CPC and other values.


MARKANGELS gets most visitors from Nigeria, so MARKANGEL can not even generate $10k per week via Adsense.
Here is a better search link on Youtube to give you better understanding

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+much+1+million+views+youtube

You'd see most videos with over 1m views earn lesser than 10k$. Not so many Youtubers can drive 1m views in 3 months, let alone 1 week. If they keep making more contents, not all will go viral.

Youtubers make more money from SELF STORES. AFFILLIATE, SPONSORED PROMOTION and most times, they dont get offers often . Do i have to tell you viewers hate PRODUCT PROMOTION?. If you do it too much, they'd unsubscribe from your channel.

I'm not derailing the thread, i'm just trying to make you undertand some facts

Good morning to you.

I don’t want to derail this thread because this discussion is totally unrelated to the thread but just to give you some info, their are many reasons why a Nigerian can’t make it from Nigeria in the tech world compared to his foreign counterpart, reason being that Nigeria is blacklisted by many companies including payment processors, I can’t believe someone like you with some experience will be arguing this.
Also there is a reason Mark Angel can’t make it as big as his foreign counterpart because their target market is not a tier one country hence the advertising dollars they get for 10k traffic for instance won’t be the same with someone who’s target market is tier one country.

Also their are big youtubbers pulling 1m traffic in one week. From kids to teenagers like Jake Paul. We are just talking about YouTube, their are still other big earners from Affiliate marketing like clickbank, etc. All the information is online, just dig deeper.. Look at these stats of some youtubbers..

https://nl.youtubers.me/mrbeast/youtube-estimated-earnings/en
https://us.youtubers.me/jake-paul/youtube-estimated-earnings

Even Forbes is now listing earnings of youtubbers so you can look up for more information. This is the last I’ll be saying on this!

XiaoLi:
In Nigeria your 100M can provide you most of those things you call good life in developed country, you can own a brand
new car,electricity.. you can get a brand new sound proof which someone in the next room will not hear the sound and still enjoy constant power supply,security..you can use your company to get a well equiped mopol.. see i dont live in Nigeria myself but i go back to Nigeria every year and i can tell you that in Nigeria your money can get you most of those things you enjoy in developed countries. With 100M in your account or assets in Nigeria i can guarantee you that you can get visas of almost all the countries incase you need to go for medical tourism or vacation with your family.

This matter is overflogged, people have their differences and should do what they want. When I talked about moving to sane societies, not everyone will like to be guarded by mopols wielding guns around them and their family, will you also fix bad roads in your vicinity with your $100m? How about the monies spent on running and maintaining your soundproof which could have been channeled to other things.
Yes Nigeria is good for the rich especially those that like to show off, but some people don’t like that kind of lifestyle.
People want you to be patriotic but the politicians who benefit directly from Nigeria all have their families and assets abroad and in foreign currencies.

dake40:
Google adsense that bans anyhow?

How about those who dont make upto 500$/Month after Google updates?. How about thos who dont even make $500 in 5 months

Please stop misleading. I'm into tech and i can tell you what you are saying is VERY far from the truth.

There are over 4.4 million programmers in the USA and The average salary for a computer programmer in the United States is around $85,237 per year.

You even mentioned 100k$ via adsense per week?. How many people earn that?.

I’m telling you what I know and what I see not what I heard. I’ve given you an example with big youtubbers who earn about that. I’m not saying everyone earns that but many people who know what they are doing, even kids less than 15 years, no need derailing this thread else I’ll show you many evidences of what I’m saying.

Alaska90:
The tech companies in Nigeria are not making money because they don't have the right solution for the existed markets.

Like I said before you can make big money anywhere you are in the world especially in digital sector

If I am lying check out the story of Patrick Collision on Google

He created his company and solution in Ireland and there was no money to sponsor him and his brothers

Then Silicon valley found out about his solution and they came for him and took him away to US

Today the he is worth more than $3 billion

My argument is on salary vs business

In business you can make big money anywhere in the world depending on the solution you are providing

But not so with earning Salary

He asked how many tech companies in Nigeria are making money, you are mentioning Ireland. Do you know they are many limitations to making money in the tech industry from Nigeria! Nigeria is blacklisted by many tech companies so anyone who really wants to make it big in tech really has to relocate to a friendly country

Healthserve really repackaged and bounced back on this thread with his misyarns.. Wonderful tomato rebranding lol

oluayebenz:
You people have started again.....

Many? Are you among?

Earning 250k usd monthly not even annually


Please stop misleading people here

Yes many, go to YouTube. Many big youtubbers are pulling about that and more. Tech is the new oil.

ahiboilandgas:
dont miss the point ...Nigeria is a mess and am not comparing the oppurntiies in develop countries with Nigeria .....there over 3 million dollars millionaires in America compared to Nigeria of 15000 thousand.....my issue is for people at the top of their career to resign to go abroad for security work or gaurd...a total worker on 18million resign to move to canada to start as uber driver....but the project guy on 150 that moved to 1.2 is good move

But you wouldn’t say they are moving solely for economic reasons, some just want to raise their family in a sane society. I’ve also seen some that relocated their families abroad and still working in Nigeria so to each his own..

ahiboilandgas:
a good thing is that develop country got stats ...go read the millionaire next door ....only top 2 percent earn over 100 k dollars annually this not 1970 where Nigeria paint abroad like haven...million of americans work all their lives to pay mortgage loan and tution loans ...top surgeons earn around 700k dollars while trump earns around 300 k .guys in soft ware development can earn 500k dollars like wise the ceo of dangote earns 400m naira ...

I’m not talking about paid jobs, I’m talking about emerging opportunities in tech. CEO of Dangote earns less than $1m dollars according to you but an 8 year old makes about $26m annually reviewing toys on YouTube. There are equally other creators who make thousands of dollars monthly on YouTube alone. No need derailing the thread over this.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ryans-world-boy-makes-26-million-per-year-on-youtube-2019-12

emmanuelewumi:
You said many young people

Less than 1% of the workforce will earn $3 million in a year

Well, I’m not talking about workforce

emmanuelewumi:
Earning $250,000 per month is an exaggeration.


I doubt if 20% of the workforce make up to that in a year

Not an exaggeration sir, I’ve seen some people in digital marketing making up to $100k/week. Anyone for instance here who knows about Google Adsense will know it’s not an exaggeration. My point is opportunities abound abroad

Meanwhile I think there’s no need continuing this Exchange rate argument. We once had it on the page below about this time last year, so it’s left for anyone to read up and make their decisions

https://www.nairaland.com/878880/treasury-bills-nigeria/800#79366914

ahiboilandgas:
Most houses and asset in Nigeria are owned 100 percent ...with zero loan....i dont have any bank loan and am in Nigeria and am wort over 100m without steping outside the shores of Nigeria ...several of my friends have exceed capital base of 100m without loans or mortgage....if i die today no bank is repossing any thing even toothpicks paid in cash ...

Many young people in tech abroad earn over 100m naira in USD equivalent/month.. You can’t compare opportunities in Nigeria to developed countries. Not everyone is a cab driver abroad

Theconglomerate:
I am the one that said it and I know I am not a joker.
The moment that refinery open it's doors,dollar dey go to the 300-330 range ASAP.
They've given you numbers yet you no want gree,
No one is forcing you.
We all dey here

Yes you are a joker, The Naira is not going below 360, not in 2020, not in 2021, not even in 2022. Continue believing what you want anyway

ahiboilandgas:
say who...must wealthy Nigerians are in Nigeria ....facts

How come most Nigerians depend on remittances for survival
https://nairametrics.com/2020/01/11/nigeria-receives-17-5-billion-diaspora-remittances-in-2019/

ahiboilandgas:
u must be dreaming the catalyst fractionation columns has be installed....i no get strength ....dont even waste your time to envy Aliko dangote he is rear human ....according to otedola aliko wonder land ...he earning 200bn next month

He’s currently focusing on his fertilizer plant, I don’t believe the refinery will be functional by next year but I want to be wrong anyway but anyone saying the refinery with drag rates to 300-330 is a joker

Most people on this thread looking to invest are diasporans so if anyone is asking you not to relocate over Nigeria will be better false hope then it’s your call..

ahiboilandgas:
what isbthe use of dollars reserve?drive to the refinery in lekki is there

Nothing is happening there, if you’re so sure, tell us the take off date for the refinery. Only the fertilizer is working for now

ahiboilandgas:
what is the use of dollars if not to defend the naira ,and provide reasonable fair exchange rate ...are we taking the reserve to haven..have u been to the dangote refinery? Is not the fertilizer section is complete and has employed 2000 people my relative got a nice position and has resumed on a 6m naira annually salary....we now produce 100 percent our fertilizer needs and indorama even exported excess last year...once we cut out all the major consumer of our dollars ....petrol ,cement ,fertilizer,flour,sugar, medical tourism, school fees ....it only equipment that will be imported why woudnt the naira stabilze

It’s ridiculous to say the use of dollar is to defend The Naira. I mean you are justifying wasting over $30b to defend The Naira since 2017? Lol.
Also what is the date of the take of Dangote refinery, I personally believe Dangote refinery will not solve Nigeria FX problems, I want to be proved wrong but I also do not see the refinery beginning operations anytime soon.

GonFreecss1:
You were kind enough not to even say 400 naira to a USD. Lol!

It’s crazy. Nigeria has lost over $30b defending The Naira since 2017 and someone thinks naira will fall to 300-330 by next year, because of some Dangote refinery that no one even knows when operations will begin.

Theconglomerate:
Reports show that Nigeria use to spend up to 300-400m dollars anually on rice imports when it was still legal.
Same reports say Nigeria spends between 7-10 billion dollars(subsidy inclusive) anually on petroleum imports.
So are you saying the effect of taking off a $400m forex demand and that taking off a $10B fx demand from the Nigeria economy will have the same stress pattern(effect) on local currency?
Don't you see that Dangote refinery will crush approximately a $10B fx demand anually the moment it goes operational?
Take away that demand and dollar will drop immediately.
I personally is looking at an exchange rate of N300-330/$1 come next year.

What is the capacity of Dangote refinery? Do you think a single refinery can serve the entire Nigeria? Lol.. Naira is not going below 360 till 2023.. you can take that to the bank

Tvegas:
CBN has clarified that it wont defend naira for non essential products anymore. Buhari had some major influence on past decisions to defend the naira. Theyve learnt their lessons trust me they wont make thesame mistake again. Truth is nothing is certain anymore even Dangote Refinery may not be sufficient to help the Naira.

After COVID any smart investor should never say never.

You are very right. Buhari is the major reason why cbn is insisting on defending The Naira. He has strong views on keeping The Naira low against the dollar (if you follow his campaign) that’s why Emefiele did everything possible to defend The Naira and even got a another term. It will only take Buhari changing his stance to devalue The Naira, and the new Chief of Staff May play a role, that’s if he becomes as powerful as the former.
All the talks about Dangote refinery is just noise, I don’t see Dangote refinery having any major impact on the exchange rate, that was same noise they made about rice! No one can even tell when that refinery will start functioning