Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:47pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: You failed to fight poachers in Naai-geria. They killed off your rhino. So, you can't talk. You lost the war. how do you lose a war you never even fought? what a dumb kid  Nigeria has many game reserves and ranch resorts with a lot of animals intact. so far our park rangers are not complaining. the only war being lost to poachers is SANDF. you waged war on poachers and it's almost 4 years now with your military losing. hide your idiocy abeg. am tired of seeing it |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:40pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: You have no point. Dead comment.
Your ignorance is in full view of the public and the glare of media cameras, no doubt  yeah right. you probably thought of how rhinos will manage to survive a desert and dry region which is what northern Nigeria is. i get it. your stup1dity was exposed again. enjoy |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:38pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
andrewza: Who said high numbers. You had rhinos and now they all gone. Because you can not look after your wild live. Even the west african lion is close to joining the rhino with there being under 50. There are southern and eastern prides with more lions than all of the lions in west africa. come and see lions na.. no be me go tell you to run. how does this change the fact that your military is incapable of fighting ordinary poachers as your rhinos are about to be extinct. lost argument is what i see |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:34pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:24pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
andrewza: http://m.voanews.com/a/159154.html
Confirm you west africa
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/the-economics-of-extinction-africa-s-elephants-and-rhinos-in-danger.html
" Although Nigeria has only 100 wild elephants of its own, it has become the continent’s largest center for retail ivory, according to field studies by the Kenya-based wildlife-trade authority Esmond Bradley Martin, who estimates that 98 percent of the buyers are Chinese. In the past decade the number of Chinese living and working in Nigeria’s largest city, Lagos, has soared—and in the city’s Lekki market, he found a vast assortment of carved ivory goods at only a fraction of the prices they would fetch in China. Chopsticks that would cost $455 in Guangzhou were a steal in Lagos at $63. An ivory necklace that might go for nearly $600 in China was priced at $57.
The toll from such baubles and trinkets adds up to a bloodbath. During his study of the Lekki market, Bradley Martin counted a total of 14,000 ivory items, all from elephants freshly killed in neighboring Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, and as far away as Kenya and Tanzania." where does it say Nigeria had high numbers of rhinos? you haven't proved anything here. and the elephants are poached from other countries. am sure those ivories will come from your rhinos as well. this article doesn't prove anything. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:19pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
andrewza: They never even met one another mr fool. The army is not on privat game parks nor are san park rangers. are you still trying to argue the fact that their arrival was as a result of your military to stop poaching? i don't get you |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:10pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: Your troops(whom carried heavy equipment on their heads) never held the rank of a officer. They were always commanded by a white british man or officer. NOW show me combat kills bloody Nigerian. mr man drop this your stup1d question. even the world could not get an accurate combat kills after the war cos it's not always easy to get such figures from especially from a civil war of that magnitude. casualties will have to be military and civlian combined. of course you should know that yourself since you claim to be knowledgeable in military matters. dumbo now show proof that white british commanded Nigerian army during the war since you feel like asking questions. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:57pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: You said that cause you clearly don't have information about what's going in the frontlines,Believing politician the same reason you believe Nigeria is winning the war against BH. You don't hava information,making you a liar,a fool,some I..diot who fantasies about war. I dare you to challenged Mike..ZA on any military topic. and is this you accepting you wrong? cool the hot fumes boy  so in other word, you just called your president a liar, deceitful and ignorant. keep up the good work. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:54pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
andrewza: This is factualy wrong both rhino and elphant where abadant in nigeria. Has of now there are no rhinos and about 100 elphants. where's proof of your above claim please |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:45pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: Sorry to interrupt but Mr are you showing me where Zuma and the SANDF said "SANDF members in the DRC are hiding their weapons from M23"?. How can someone like you(a person who posts rubbish military stuff,and doesn't even know what's going on in the frontlines of on going conflicts across the globe) say something like "am done with your fried brain?. Seek knowledge first boet! as if you've ever managed to make one clear cut military analysis on this thread. all i've seen from you are cut and paste information and you believe that qualifies you as having knowledge? aside from SANDF, what else do you know? find one place sit down abeg. hmm! so my saying your troops are hiding their guns as reference to your commanders admittance that your troops will not fight doesn't seem metaphorical to you? okay. keep waiting then. what matters if i've shown you proof that your men are not gonna fight. and while you keep waiting, show proof of that fake sitrep on the front lines you just yapped. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:17pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: Quote where I said that.
If you can't, then you know what's coming.  trying to walk in my path ehn? how else would you explain your response to his comment agaugust: NO submarine war has ever been fought in all African history. 
. CraigB: In other words, you have no sinks. Ok, thanks. . see why i say don't always be in a hurry? you just keep exposing your loose brain. am done with your fried brain |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:11pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:05pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: The G5 and the G6 have been used primarily in battlefield interdiction roles and have been very accurate due to coinputerised firing calculations. Artillery observers were deployed on the front line and targets which presented themselves were exploited immediately. When the Cubans wanted to launch an air strike from the Angolan airfield at Cuito Cuanavale, artillery observers on one occasion called for G6 fire support and destroyed four Russian MiG 21 jet fighters as they taxied for take off.(46) The G5 shelled the runways and associated infrastructure of the airfield at Cuito Cuanavale over a long period of time and this prevented the enemy fighters from taking off to participate against South African forces. The G5 played a primary role in destroying the enemy, including aircraft and tanks. The fact remains that the G5 played a critical role during this campaign and without it the war in Angola would have run a different course. The G5 proved to be the backbone of the South African forces during the conflict. The G5 was a great psychological booster for the members of the SADF operating on the ground. The role that the G5 fulfilled should therefore not be underestimated under any circumstances.(47) Before being operationally employed the G6 was evaluated, amongst others, during Exercise Zenula in May 1986 at Omuthiya, the base camp of 61 Mechanised Battalion. The G5 was used operationally for the first time by the SADF on 9 August 1986 during Operation Alpha Centauri. This operation lasted until 16 August 1986. One battery of G5s (a battery consists of eight guns) was employed in conjunction with one battery of multiple rocket launchers (MRL). The operation was an artillery attack against Cuban and FAPLA formations concentrating in Cuito Cuanavale for their 1986 offensive against UNITA. The 25th Cuban-FAPLA Brigade was situated east of Cuito Cuanavale near Tumpo. The 13th Brigade was situated in Cuito Cuanavale and the 8th Brigade operated between Menongue and Cuito Cuanavale, the former being a large logistics depot. Convoys regularly travelled from Menongue to supply Cuito Cuanavale.(48) The G5 assault began at last light, about 18:00. By 23:00 the back of the opposition was broken. Heavy fire was brought down upon the enemy in the first five hours resulting in large scale destruction. This destroyed the 1986 Cuban and FAPLA offensive against UNITA and showed the tremendous destructive force that lay within one battery of G5s. Owing to the long range and the accuracy with which the G5 could fire and the effect of the ammunition, authority was forced upon the enemy. As a result of the daylight activities of the MiG jet fighters employed by the enemy, artillery fire missions could only be executed at night. As it was the first time that the G5 was used operationally there was great cause for concern that the MiGs would spot the G5s. The MiGs were continuously in the air trying to locate the G5s and bombed the surrounding area at random in the hope of hitting the artillery.(49) This operation proved to the SADF that survival was possible despite an unfavourable air situation. As a result of the enemy's air superiority, great attention was given to passive defensive measures such as camouflage, track discipline and the concealment of movement. Special techniques of concealment were practised beforehand which prevented the enemy from observing the artillery. Before the operation was undertaken these techniques of concealment were also tested under conditions similar to those that the artillery would experience during the operation. Another factor in favour of the artillery was the unprofessional manner in which the enemy employed its air force. The MiG fighters flew at a very high altitudes, making observation very difficult for the pilots. The apparent reason for this was to avoid being shot down by UNITA's Stinger missiles. In addition, the many bush fires in the area, owing to the dryness of the season, created a lot of dust and smoke in the air. During this operation approximately 2 500 MRL projectiles and approximately 4 500 G5 projectiles were used.(50) During 1987 Cuban and FAPLA forces were concentrated in the east of Angola known to them as 5th Military District. Operations launched by them were aimed at destroying UNJTA, including their main base at Jamba. As a counter- measure, the SADF undertook Operation Modular in aid of UNITA which lasted from 1 July to 15 December 1987. This was followed up by Operation Hooper and culminated in Operation Packer which ended in March 1988. During this period two G5 batteries were employed, playing a prominent role in destroying enemy forces. During these operations it was found that the HE projectiles of the G5 could be used to great effect against the T-55 tanks employed by the opposing force. Between 20 and 30 tanks were in this way put out of action by the G5s. It was also found that when an HE projectile hit the ground and detonated 15 in from a tank, chances were good that the tank concerned would be disabled. The enemy had no tactical equipment that could withstand the 155 mm shell of the G5. After Operation Packer, a further operation took place in south eastern Angola. This was Operation Displace during which the G5 was also used. (51) The artillery found that the G5 was flexible owing to its long range and the convenient top traverse of the barrel for the arc of fire. When the top traverse was impeded by trees, the gun crews would use, amongst others, chain saws and explosives to remove the trees, but this was not done to the detriment of camouflage. It was also found that the G5 gave tactical advantage owing to its mobility. During the above-mentioned operations, the MiGs again took to speculative bombing of the area in the hope of flushing out the G5s. As in 1986 the G5s were regarded as the prime target. One of the factors causing the MiGs to be unsuccessful was the discipline shown by the SA troops in adhering to passive defensive measures. As a result of the prolonged duration of these operations, gun unservicibility started becoming more of a problem. This resulted in greater logistical problems for the SADF as even large components such as barrels had to be replaced in the field. Special hoisting apparatus and tools were needed to replace the barrels but in spite of this no great problems were experienced in changing the barrels in the field. This experience proved that the G5 was technically maintainable in the field.(52) Under the prevailing, difficult cross-country conditions the auxiliary power unit proved to be of tremendous assistance to the gun tractor. The gun tractor and the G5 formed a long train in the bush and the trees and thick undergrowth stripped certain equipment off the G5 when it turned. The bush-breaking also caused some damage to the gun tractor as well as to the G5 and certain modifications were therefore made, eg the battery box which was situated on the outside of the trails is now situated on the inside of the trails.(53) Some of these modifications were not introduced on G5s which were destined for the international market owing to the difference in terrain.(54) The last operational deployment of the G5 in Angola was during Operation Prone near Tchipa, during June 1988. (55) The G6 made its operational debut in December 1987 during Operation Modular. The mobility of the G6 in dense bush proved to be highly successful. The greatest cause for concern was whether the tyres would stand up to the rugged conditions, especially while breaking the bush. Fortunately there was no cause for concern as the tyres gave very few problems. They proved to be very robust and survived very well during Operation Modular and were found to be more robust than those of most other operational vehicles fact still remains that the G6 didn't help you win the war. so you can stop posting this info unless it's about how you won a war with it. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:58pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: Don't forget to show me where the SANDF and Zuma said "The SANDF members in eDRC are hiding their weaapons from M23". go back to my previous poast. am not gonna repeat it again. it say SANDF will not fight M23 rebels. a mandate they were sent there for in the first place. if that isn't cowardice then tell me what it is. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:35pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:29pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:27pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:20pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: You said : "if it is true". Therefore, you accept that it might not be true. Simple.
You even emphasised the "if" and in the process, shot yourself in the foot. CONFIRMED ID1OT. just proved my point. you think from your a*shole and your ignorance stinks like dead fish. can't quote me i see. okay |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:14pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:10pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: Boo-hoo. Cry baby.
Proof from a commander in chief that you think is also confused? Now, he is reliable? 

Idïot... and please quote where i said his comments are unreliable. i dare you. let's epose who's the stupido here if you can't, then remain an id1ot for life |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:09pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:02pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: M23 is losing ground. FARDC has reached their famous post on the antennas + plus a estimated 30 POWs. Let's talk about facts on the ground,I have reliable sources in eastern DRC. yet you lambaste @augugust whenever he says facts due to his interaction with military personnel without links. you lots are just a bunch of hypocrites. if you don't have proof, just shut it and let us rely on available and reliable information so far... from your commander in chief  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:58pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: Proof from politicians that you say are confused?
Now how can someone that you say is confused be your proof as well? 
Does that make sense in your monkey brain? you must really enjoy my company. too bad i feel otherwise  you simply bore me chris365: yet you still talk from your a*s 
if it's true, then the only ignorant people here are your president and defense minister. with you included though.  try google the meaning of the word "if", cos i can see how confused you are. you know it's not a must to quote me. am tired of you drawing my attention only to bore me to sleep. just read my post and scroll or ignore. it's very easy. stop seeking my attention. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:42pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: I refered you to their account cause you clearly said the "SANDF soldiers were hiding their guns" from M23. And oh Brigadier General Xolani Mabaga didn't release any statement about the recent fighting. Prove it to me again that the SANDF is hiding. PROVE IT!!!! this is my proof from your commander in chief i posted earlier.. SA troops in DRC won’t fight M23: Presidencynow call him a liar and ignorant, then i'll believe you  and am still waiting for your own proof.. that if you have any  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:37pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:30pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: It's the horse's mouth, idïot. You keep showing how much of an enemy of enlightenment you are.
You'd rather spew garbage than speak from an informed position. SMH. unless he's part of SANDF in goma, sit back and shut your ignorant mouth and stop using idioms wrongly. dude stop seeking my attention biko. it's not compulsory to quote or make someone talk to you. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:24pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: As usual, you wait until I've logged off before you address me. Cowardly baboon.
Look at what Mike has said about you. Nothing further needed. What's there to defend? The ignorance is solely on your side. You even admit that you aren't interested in gaining any knowledge. Your own words: not mine.
So in other words, you no longer go with your SABC article, do you? You no longer argue that the SANDF hid their guns from M23? You've moved on to the next desperate point? Thought so. You've been beaten up badly and now you keep drifting from point to point, hoping to make something stick. It's too late. You've done all the damage to yourself today. look at this goat. wait for you to log off?  just proves all you want is attention to your stup1dity your dead brain must have missed the part where i wrote "if true". well as always, you remain at the lowest level. i repeat.. if true, then your leaders are ignorant and confused  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:19pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: If you were interested or knowledgeable about wars. It would be only normal for you to follow and keep an ear an both or more "parties" involved in the fighting. My point is: @Chris365 posts rubbish without knowledge about what actually goes on in the frontlines. YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!!But your nearest library can cure that. lol.. and you just proved how stup1d you are by referring me to a M23 twitter account when there are thousands other sources of information. or refer your president and defense minister to M23 twitter account since you just confirmed their ignorance. post sources to prove your imaginary simulations or just shut up. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:57pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
CraigB: Of course, you say what you see. That's the problem. You don't see far enough. The M23 have confirmed the engagement. Ignorance is bliss. yet you still talk from your a*s  if it's true, then the only ignorant people here are your president and defense minister. with you included though.  i'll like to see how you'll defend this one cos am not done laughing  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:52pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: You simply don't "follow" wars. so it's now a bad thing that i didn't follow M23? which i have no intention of following anyway. so what's your point |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:51pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
zaandrew: Again doing reshearch will help you a lot. They where on a private game farm. Aka there where no solders or any goverment rangers. You really are a fool. o common  .. don't tell me you didn't read the article. hate the game, not the player.. i didn't write the article, am only using it as my proof that those special forces where brought in to help your dead brain army fight ordinary poachers. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:28pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: Tanzanian troops are providing artillery support to FARDC. While the SANDF is firing 81mm mortars,but the SANDF snipers used the NTW-20 to take out that Machine nest which was used to pin down the FARDC troops. source please.. you don't wanna bore us with your imaginary simulations would you? |