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ADVANCED BIBLE STUDY: LEVEL2

All those people that set up hostpitals feed the poor etc, are doing great things for humankind. Yet, it doesn't count if it isn't being done for the Lord. Our works are as filthy rags. Man tries and tries to find his own way to God, but Jesus clearly stated in John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me." Good works are great, we are to do good works in this life, but that isn't the way to eternal life. I would much rather accept the simple message of salvation than struggle to live a life of good works, worrying if im going to end up having enough good works that outway the bad.

Also, those Christians that dress dirty, and talk even more dirty, etc, aren't really Christians. Let me explain: The word Christian means Christ-like. Christians themselves didn't decide to give themselves that name. Actually, unbelievers gave followers of God that name back in the New Testament because they tried so hard to be like Christ. Therefore, someone may be saved, but they may not be a Christian, living like Christ and following His commands. THere are also those who profess to be "Christians" these days that certainly are not. They don't understand what it means to be a Christian. It's more than wearing a cross and doing a good deed after going to church on Sunday. It's more than a "spiritual fad" I've heard people say, "I used to be a Christian, but i realized it wasnt for me" Once you are saved, you are saved. So either they meant that they used to be Christ-like, or they are saying that they got saved and decided not to be anymore--impossible. The Bible speaks of those that professed to be in the faith but then left. That shows they never were in the faith to begin with.

ADVANCED BIBLE STUDY

Jesus said in Matthew 8:11...

"And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

The Bible teaches that both those who do good and those who do evil shall be resurrected, after which we are judged and sentenced. The Bible says,

"It is appointed unto men once to die and after that the judgment. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

God has set forth His laws and demands obedience to them. Any disobedience to His law is known as sin, which a God of integrity and justice must punish.

So the JEWS, the truely observant jews are not God’s children All that praying 3 times a day, doing good deeds, setting up jewish hospitals all over the world, making the best bagels and lox for the goyim, and actually loving their God.. are NOT God’s children? Only christians are going to heaven. So good deeds dont count huh? Ive met jewish, muslim, sihk, atheist, and hindu physicians.. the most nicest and trustworthy people I've ever worked with… you mean to tell me they’re going to hell? I could understand an atheist going to hell… but not the God fearing ones? So a pedophile seriel rapist who is minutes away from execution who makes a spur of the moment decision to truely believe in Christ and that he died for his sins goes to heaven This is why I see more and more christians in the streets, tv and in my everyday business just dress how they want to dress, cuss, talk about their sexual encounters to everyone, sleep around, racists, hateful, spiteful… its all good ’cause you’re bathed by the blood of Christ. “sin now and repent later.”

First off I dont want you to think that I'm trying to argue with you. It's just that whenever I see someones view point on Christianity, and if it seems wrong, I like to try and help the person to understand it, ( i know that certain people and situations have kinda warped Christianity's rep..so i understand there is some confusion these days)
Anyway, about your statement...This is the beauty of Salvation through Christ: If a serial rapist was getting ready to die, and the Holy Spirit was convicting him one last time, yes, if the man finally said yes to the Lord, he would be forgiven and would receive salvation instantly and would die and go to heaven.

I think I get closer to muslims even though I am a christian on that point. Some christians are just brain-washed in church.

Unfortunately the concept of a perfect God doesnt exist or isnt tolerated in Christianity. You are told to leave logic/common sense at the door and enter into the world of faith. Makes you wonder why God gave us logic for? To be used on everything except him?

Yes it is true that there are christian churches that tell to leave logic/common sense at the door and enter into the world of faith.
Never liked that and I think it's all bunk. I have rejected churches like that.

good bath with water, soap and sponge is good

The moment God created human being in his own image, he decided to give us the liberty to shape things ourselves too. In a way we are cocreators with God. That's my current thinking.

Sand Bath is very effective for perspiration due to the weight of sand Its effectiveness. It is understood that sand bathing increases the body temperature with high rate of heart impact. Increasing blood circulation refleshes your body by discharging wastes and observing oxygen sufficiently into your body. Sand bathing has 3 to 4 times more effects compared to usual hot springs. Also sand bathing removes parasites and dirt. This type of cleaning is used by animals and birds too to clean themselves when water is not available. Poeple also take snow baths even though it is not wet, else you get sick.

Using sand is much cleaner than you think. It solved a lot of problems if you cannot bath in the desert.

God's claims are rationally defensible – not provable, perhaps, but certainly explainable and not disprovable. (I Peter 3:15, "always be ready to explain your faith...". That's only my thinking.

a. Be intellectually responsible; understand your faith to a level proportional to your general education.
b. Know how to answer objections. I don't mean rattle off "answers" from a memorized list. I mean take the objections seriously, think about them, deal with them honestly.

My point is that you can't always explain things of religion, issues of faith with LOGIC!

Of course you can

Seems very logical to me and I am not muslim. I mean, when I go meet my lady or going to a party or somewhere nice, I always take a good bath. We all want to be clean and at best when we go or meet someone important. I feel God deserves better. Correct me if I am wrong.

The idea of being clean is nice. I like that.

Makes it very convenient too. That's what judgement is all about, all about your sins.

That the basic protestant distortion.

Nothing wrong, but using visions aaahhhh. Crazy

Evolution is a Fact and a Theory

The existence of biological evolution is a fact. It can be demonstrated today and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming. On the other hand there are questions about the mechanism of the observed changes... how did evolution occur? We readily admit that we are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanism of evolution.
-- "Theory" means "imperfect fact"--part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus the power of the creationist argument: evolution is "only" a theory is false.
-- Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them.
-- Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.
-- Moreover, "fact" doesn't mean "absolute certainty". The final proofs of logic and mathematics flow deductively from stated premises and achieve certainty only because they are not about the empirical world.
-- In science "fact" can only mean "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional consent." I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.
-- Scientists have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory--natural selection--to explain the mechanism of evolution.
But what is established beyond reasonable doubt, and what needs further study, about evolution.
1) Evolution as a process that has always gone on in the history of the earth can be doubted only by those who are ignorant or resistant of the evidence. By contrast, the mechanisms that bring evolution about certainly need study and clarification.
Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution.
One has to state clearly that evolution is a fact, not theory, and that what is at issue within biology are questions of details of the process and the relative importance of different mechanisms of evolution.
The facts
1)It is a fact that the earth with liquid water, is more than 3.6 billion years old.
2)It is a fact that cellular life has been around for at least half of that period and that organized multicellular life is at least 800 million years old.
3)It is a fact that major life forms now on earth were not at all represented in the past. There were no birds or mammals 250 million years ago.
4)It is a fact that major life forms of the past are no longer living. There used to be dinosaurs and Pithecanthropus, and there are none now.
5)It is a fact that all living forms come from previous living forms. Therefore, all present forms of life arose from ancestral forms that were different.
No person who pretends to any understanding of the natural world can deny these facts any more than she or he can deny that the earth is round, rotates on its axis, and revolves around the sun.

We also need to distinguish between facts that are easy to demonstrate and those that are more circumstantial. Examples of evolution that are readily apparent include the fact that modern populations are evolving and the fact that two closely related species share a common ancestor. The evidence that Homo sapiens and chimpanzees share a recent common ancestor falls into this category. There is so much evidence in support of this aspect of primate evolution that it qualifies as a fact by any common definition of the word "fact."
In other cases the available evidence is less strong. For example, the relationships of some of the major phyla are still being worked out. Also, the statement that all organisms have descended from a single common ancestor is strongly supported by the available evidence, and there is no opposing evidence. However, it is not yet appropriate to call this a "fact" since there are reasonable alternatives.

So enormous, ramifying, and consistent has the evidence for evolution become that if anyone could now disprove it, I should have my conception of the orderliness of the universe so shaken as to lead me to doubt even my own existence. If you like, then, I will grant you that in an absolute sense evolution is not a fact, or rather, that it is no more a fact than that you are hearing or reading these words.

Evolution is useless, without practical application.

* Diseases and pests evolve resistance to the drugs and pesticides we use against them. Evolutionary theory is used in the field of resistance management in both medicine and agriculture (Bull and Wichman 2001).
* Evolutionary theory is used to manage fisheries for greater yields (Conover and Munch 2002).
* Knowledge of the evolution of parasite virulence in human populations can help guide public health policy (Galvani 2003).

Science does not proceed by majority vote among scientists.

Seems a pathetic church. All these visions are bullshit. The thing is they want to bed him.

"Where is our common humanity?"
The common humanity is STUPIDITY and SUPERSTITION in Black Africa is akin to sentencing all the world to a future without any cure at all!

I agree with that. Thanks a lot.

Ok, I believe you, calm down now. I wanted to ask you some questions as muslims.

Church A man of God perform miracles, read from the bible , and take tithes.
Quoting bible to suit its activities and needs. And does some extra stuffs like promising its followers that whoever believe
You talked about that "Christianity" in "some" churches has being directed towards a way to fullfill wordly gains and get special favours from God. All you can do is point at things they do that is bad, and quote in respect on why it is bad. I don't think christianity preaches tagging others bad, because they don't follow what you were taught to follow in your church. Pay Tithes, never question the church, and everyone must keep his place else we kick him out.

As muslims what is your way of thinking on these matters. Even though I am Christian, I agree some churches got it all mixed up and try brainwashing.

Has been like that for a long time. I am not against the priesthood marrying, used to be like that long time ago. However most catholics feel that married life can be very demanding and in a certain aspect will limit his duty as a person of God. He must dedicate his life to God rather than have other commitments. Then there is the problem of how to financially support the married priest's family, where are these families supposed to live...in a rectory with a celibate priest? What sort of unity will exist in the presbyterate if some are married and others are celibate?
Just a few questions some should ponder before they jump to so called quick solutions.

I remember in Boy Scouts a married priest was assigned to do services. He was bitter about leaving his family on the weekend to go on the campouts. Also Catholic priests in the military are more likely to go into combat zones because they do not have families.

Even a Lutheran minister I know confessed to feeling that his family was cheated out of a certain amount of family time by his ministry and that his wife had to shoulder an unfair amount of family responsibility.

We feel that family life and a priestly vocation just won't work. The priests give so much of themselves...even, theoretically, with more priests to handle the workload, they just wouldn't be able to "do" both vocations. And I don't think there are many women with the saintly patience to share their husbands with the rest of the parish at all hours every day of the year. (And some wives might be willing, but I just don't think it would be fair to kids.

Logical and Exu , you are Muslim right

Well said logical. Well said

I am catholic

Better assume con men, will get out of problem. Better be safe than sorry

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Anyone got tape and length of rope. You can try that It should work well

When nothing is working good, is there someone in particular who is always near you. Perhaps they bring you bad luck.

I don't think it is because they are not married. I think they should lock them up.

I don't think it is limited to persons because they are not married. Happens also among married preachers too, adultery and things. Seen it before. The problem is that some catholic priests have abused children