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Oasis001:
He's a great Person no Doubt, but no One knows it all. If you goof, admit it. You lose nothing, rather you learn new thing.

Look at Andrew444, he called Hamed Diallo a CM, but when he's corrected, he didn't fight it rather accept it.

No doubt about that, but at the emboldened, no Thesupernerd never makes mistakes

TheSuperNerd:
Yet I still proved my points backed by stats sites the world over.
But as usual, Agenda must always agend with some of you lots. Nothing have changed. Lol

Yes, nothing has changed that is why even as all what you got to back up your claims are stats but knavishly failed to throw this up to show us that Akpo is better than Boly

Oasis001:



There is something you need to grab Brother. No one knows it all. You do seem you're the most knowledgeable here, thus you can't be challenged on any Post(s) you drop.

You were hammering on a a single Stat to prove Kessie is a DM, yet you quickly dig deeper, beyond a Season to prove Ndidi is better than Kessie......? LMAO.

Nerdy, stop proving what you are not. Dishing Posters with contrary Views is wrong. Stop being emotional with Discourse, especially related to SE Players.

Na kids him go dey play like that, say we dey keep quiet no mean say we no sabi xup

TheSuperNerd:
Even stats show that Chuks does create the higher volume of chances in a team compared to Pepe. Either from dribbles turned into chances or shots or from chance creations stats (Key passes and Bug chances created).
Stats is not everything but when combined with Eye Test (watching for yourself), it reveals close to everything if not everything.

That is what is called takes devoid of sentiments not what you have been putting out here since yesterday trying to force false narratives by saying that Akpo and Ekong are better than Baily and Boly, and that Aribo will start in CM ahead of Kessie.

TheSuperNerd:
But the whole argument erupted when I challenged the notion that some you guys stated about CIV having the better first XI than Nigeria.
You were the one trying to twist my midfield angles. You were running away from Ndidi vs Kessie.

My points were two fold:

1. We have the better First XI and we would have more players in a combined Naija-CIV XI right now.

2. We also have the better depth than CIV does overall.

Simple. So it's you who rather jumped in when I quoted your initial lineup from pages back and didn't understand my angles of argument.

I just showed you my angle of argument which has stood the test of time since yesterday, so what exactly is your own angle of argument, since it is no longer about Ekong and Akpoguma being better than Boly and Baily, and Kessie sitting in a midfield option that comprise Ndidi, Kessie and Aribo?

Oasis001:


I definitely know you ignore Stats to pick Chuks ahead of Pepe.

To me, Stats be like mini skirt, it doesn't show everything. Pepe would not effect the dynamics of a game as Chuks would

ChrisKels:
Stop deceiving some guys who do not keenly follow African football. Kessie is a CM not DM. So, it is Kessie over Aribo. Ndidi battles Sangare and fit again Jean Gbamin of Everton.

Zaidu >> Singo and makeshift Cornet

Aurier >> all our RBs

Baily >> Ekong, Awaziem

Boly >> Balogun, Akpoguma

Ndidi >> Sangare and Gbamin on DM

Kessie >> Aribo in CM

Zaha >> all our LWGs

Pepe = Chucks. But in dept, Amad(Man United) and Hamed(Sassoulo) over any other player we have behind Chuks

Iwobi >> Boga

Nothing has changed from my take since yesterday I don't follow football with sentiments neither do I change goal posts to suit my narratives. This is the post that started the argument, now tell me what your argument has been hinged on, if you think it hasn't been baseless, considering that my combined 11 still tallies with the post you jumped on yesterday to argue unnecessarily.

Here is my CIV and Naija combined 11

Zaha.........................Osimhen.......................Chuks

..................................Iwobi.......................................

...................Ndidi......................Kessie.....................

Zaidu..................Boly.........Baily.....................Aurier

...................................Uzoho.....................................




6 Nigerians and 5 Ivorians, no sentiments

12large1:
Is chuks with only 2 goals all season for Villarreal better than pepe with 8 goals this season or just in Nigerian minds? Good list but remove chuks for pepe

That is my choice, to me, Chuks is more dangerous than Pepe. He creates more goal scoring chances though he has been wasteful this season

TheSuperNerd:
6-5 and we still win... But I insist it is 7-4. Akpoguma gets in ahead of Boly. You can shout on this all you want. Akpoguma's stats attributes over the past two years have been better.

So now even in your own Ojoro XI (since you sneaked in Boly) you FINALLY admit that Nigeria have got a stronger First XI than the Ivorians abi.

Isn't that what I said that began all this rants from your Ivorian asslicking fellows??

Haven't you still proven my point RIGHT?? It shows that you lots just wanted to argue over nothing. Smh.

Abeg. Thank you for starting a baseless argument. My persistence had finally made you admit the central point.

Nigeria's First XI is stronger than CIV'S. Full stop!

How does what you wrote correlate with the Points i argued with you? Did I ever argue who would make the crux of the team or was i arguing the positions of Boly, Baily and Kessie over Akpo, Ekong and Aribo? Go back to where all this started and stop grasping at straws and creating things that never existed. Seems you didn't even know what the argument was about before you delved in

Oasis001:
You can't rely on Stats to knock down a Player against another, because Stats, though scientific, but can be mischievous at times.

If you're using Stats to rate Ndidi over Kante, then we should agree Kessie is better than Ndidi as well?!

Don't do this

TheSuperNerd:
Hamed is an AM and also a winger. Even if we drop a winger to accommodate the lad because he features as AM predominantly, he doesn't get in ahead of Iwobi. Even Iheanacho still gets my nod in that role behind the striker ahead of Hamed. So your trying to squeeze in Hamed still doesn't hold weight.

You too like unnecessary arguments. Who talked about Iwobi here? I said we are slim in that position, where did I talk about him contending with the one we have already? Bros abeg shift I no get data to waste over what is not worth it.

Everything to you, na argument?

TheSuperNerd:
I would sit him for Ndidi. That is what I have been saying since yesterday. But if you insist on playing both Ndidi and Kessie then surely Aribo would have to sit. But between Ndidi and Kessie... Kessie sits his ass down.

And also, having Kessie star in a double pivot alongside Ndidi still doesn't alter the players count in the Naija-CIV combined XI. Nigeria would still have 7 players against CIV'S four. So case closed.

You dun bend finally?


Here is my CIV and Naija combined 11

Zaha.........................Osimhen.......................Chuks

..................................Iwobi.......................................

...................Ndidi......................Kessie.....................

Zaidu..................Boly.........Baily.....................Aurier

...................................Uzoho.....................................




6 Nigerians and 5 Ivorians, no sentiments

TheSuperNerd:
Chris. Stop this nonsense abeg. We have Ejuke and he is still trying to get into our squad. We would have a Lookman soon and even his place isn't yet guaranteed. We have an Onyekuru (who isn't even a SE starter) who is clearly better than Hamed in goals/assists numbers and more and you are still saying this. Guy, I no blame you. I blame myself for engaging Ivory Coast's number asslicker. But I will keep praying for you.

How many of those guys is an AM as affirmed in the post you quoted. I said we will drop wingers to accommodate an AM like Hamed Traore because we are so slim in that position, abi na from Midfield we go drop players for an AM? If we finally get Olise, where do you think we gonna drop players from? Abi na everything be argument for u?

TheSuperNerd:
What?? Hamed Traore better than who?? Please show me Hamed's World cup legacy. I wanna see his World cup and Afcon goals. That small boy is who you are calling side by side with Musa??

Even Moses Simon is ahead of him but as usual naa... You have always never rated Simon.

Chris... Chris... Chris... How many times did I call you? You disrespect our players a lot because of a couple of Small Ivorian lads just starting off their careers?? Mentioning Moses Simon and Hamed in the same sentence shows you really are in over your head.

If we had Hamed, we would leave out a winger or two to have him in our squad because we are so slim in his primary position(AM). He would be more vital than Simon, and clubless Musa

TheSuperNerd:
This is MENT! You would sit the best DM in the EPL for a Serie A dude?? You would sit one of the best 3 DMs on the planet for Kessie?? Please is Kessie top 3 in the world for either CM or DM?? Answer me... I wanna know.

This Ivorian Obsession demon is really working overtime in Chris. Oh my good Lord.

But you would sit one of the best CMs in serie A for some player in the Scottish league who is even largely viewed by his coach as an AM abi?

andrewbaba44:
Na central midfielder sha

He is versatile but his primary position is AM, while he does pretty fine on either wings and CM too

Oasis001:
CIV also have better Wingers than us. Pepe, Zaha, Amad, Boga, are fine Wingers, only odd is Amad because he is not been playing regularly yet for United.

Osimhen was outstanding with Lille and it earned him a Move to Serie A, has he replicated the Form with Napoli? We are cutting him some slack because he's ours and we believe he's gonna bounce back. We are even blaming his Teammates for his Goal drought.

If we trust Osimhen, then we shouldn't dust off Pepe. He commanded huge Transfers Fee to EPL because of his Exploits at same French League.

Amad's elder brother - Hamed Junior Traore 20 of Sassuolo is better than Ahmed Musa and Moses Simon

Oasis001:
Many People are checking on this Thread to learn more about Africa Football, thus we shouldn't be twisting facts to win Arguments. There are so many intelligent Posters here, and it's understandable patriotism shouldn't be negotiable, but we shouldn't twist facts to be patriotic.

Kessie can play both DM and CM comfortably. Being selective with facts is not good enough, because if we check his Stats further he has also played predominantly as CM. This is a Player that has played as CB as well.

Combo of Ndidi and Kessie in Midfield would be unstoppable. They are both solid Midfielders. Even though Kessie plays more as a DM this Season, he still has 10 Goals to his Name. He's definitely a Class.

No oooo Kessie must sit for Ndidi because we want to accommodate Aribo


By the way, to me, Ndidi isn't an untouchable too. If I had to be adventurous and make more incursions to kill my opponent, I would sit Ndidi for Kessie even in the DM because Kessie promises more goals and assists as a DM

TheSuperNerd:
Stop being silly abeg. Like I didn't see your use of uncouth expressions and your childish mentions of statements to paint me wrong in people's eyes all because I refuse to buy into your Ivorian Obsession.

Chris... You are possessed of an Ivorian Obsession demon. Don't worry, another heartbreak at the Afcon or WCQs will set you free. I will keep praying for you.

You dun win oga

andrewbaba44:
I have always said naija will beat Ivory Coast as I don’t really rate them

No wahala, till that day

12large1:
All these insults because you don't want to select the best possible 3 midfielders between Nigeria and ivory coast. Grow up mehn

Too many emotional guys in this thread, small argument my man begin vomit biles, I purposely overlooked the uncouth words he dropped yesterday just to keep it civil and he wasn't smart enough to notice that, hence, he started where he left off yesterday

TheSuperNerd:
But this is nothing new. BascoVanVeli took it one further and said we are Top 10 in the world for the best depth in the CF department and he was proven right by my findings. But guys here came for him because they are bunch of ignoramuses who feel true analysis is only when you are talking down on the potentials or state of the Nigerian national team's talents pool.

Abeg. We have bunch of clowns here posing as Analysts. One is a "Farmers league" rant merchant. The other is an Ivorian Obsessed simp. Another is a UK-based Clown who will tell you that Iheanacho cannot dribble. So many to mention. Clowns, they are.

Bros na cry you dey cry so? All these countrified words and bile because we no agree with you?

Oya ndo, we dun agree with you, na you win. Aribo is better than Kessie

12large1:
We reign Supreme than them in the Fullbacks, Forward and Wingers position

It is bout Africa as a whole not just CIV.

You don't have better LB than Algeria. U don't have better RBs than Morocco. U don't have better CBs like ivory coast, Algeria, morrocco and Senegal. You don't have goalkeepers as good as Morocco and Senegal

12large1:
abeg forgive the guy he is actually a great Contributor here week in and out but in this situation, he isn't being Fair. Anyway, I think Nigeria is collectively and will defeat your ivory coast if we meet but individually pound for pound, their player are rated higher than us

I know buh I don't spare no one, when a gaff is made

TheSuperNerd:
Ask these guys below... I don't do silly repetitive questions because you have an agenda to push. Keep eating Ivorian Vagina you hear... Lol

You lied that his primary position was DM, yet what you wanna use to back up your lies is his makeshift position for this season alone? Is that how smart you are? Bhuhhahahahaha

12large1:
You still dey argue with person wey wan play dump? Imagine a midfield options of Yaya, Iniesta, Keita, Xavi, Sergio B competing for 3 midfield position and someone will select Iniesta or Xavi for 1 position?? See as I make sense

Omo that would be so dumb, all in a bid to ensure that only one gets in. He is this sentimental, yet him dey get mouth follow me yah our inept coach

andrewbaba44:
Agreed


We no Dey talk lie ,we Dey talk am as we see am

No blind patriotism

TheSuperNerd:
He is both but he is firstly a DM and I have proved that already for this season. How many times will I repeat myself? Am I talking to a slowbie? Abeg... I get work ooo.

Who made him primarily a DM? You?

TheSuperNerd:
Another lie. I suppose even our wingers have gone to sleep. Even in the fullback roles we are not lacking and our goalkeeping position is fast coming (Okoye gets into a team like Ajax and your Ivorian obsession will suffer harder hits).

You just dey jump into arguments these days like Andree without using your head. Seems you are the one truly obsessed with Ivory coast. The boy said the whole of Africa not Ivory Coast. Go read the post again


You wan use our goalkeepers compare with Senegal and Morocco?

TheSuperNerd:
Like I said before, Kessie is both DM and CM but he has actually played DM much more and that makes him a DM firstly.

So, knowing that Kessie is awesome both as a DM and CM, would you have him sit for an Aribo?

When push comes to shove, a player like Aribo wouldn't even get a call up, because Kessie is versatile as he can cover for Ndidi effectively and still play his primary role as a CM

TheSuperNerd:
So you still don't understand what that simple chart shows on attributes comparison between Akpoguma and Boly?? Hahahahahaha... I didn't think you would be this slow naa Chris. Haba.

The "same verifiable source" confirms Kessie's main position this season as DM. Same Transfermarkt lists Kelechi Nwakali as an AM when he hasnt even played that role at club level for a long long time... So don't try to sound smart. We both know not all things on Transfermarkt are as correct.

This is much more verifiable below... You cannot beat the actual truth.

Like I said before, Kessie is both DM and CM but he has actually played DM much more and that makes him a DM firstly.

Now I have you where I want you, so you had to make a comparison of Boly and Akpoguma from two years back so that Akpo can stand a little chance, then Kessie and Aribo have to be for this year alone? What happened to comparing Akpo and Boly for this season alone? Lol you see say your yansh dun open?

maidaboi:
Let me drop another one
Nigeria have the best set of CF in Africa

This is the only position where we reign supreme