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i think while the agbor and ikwerre speak distinct igbo that your average igbo man would understand the olukumi clan's language is a mostly yoruba dialect

Icon4s:
Just like Agbor and Ikweres say theirs are not Igbo dialect. Bros these are just separatist ideologies. Let's not go further to prevent us derailing this thread

read somewhere that their ancestors were yoruba warriors (ife i think not too sure) who went for some battle later settled and mixed up with the local communities

forgiveness:
Very long.

was that so hard. anyway the olukumi clan seems to have had a long history of settlement in delta

forgiveness:
But it doesn't change the fact on ground.

http://ugboduanioma..com/2018/04/the-olukumiodiani-clan.html?m=1

i'm not googling anything if you refuse to show me a source that backs up your information i will just take it as an unverified rumour

forgiveness:
Google is your friend. I also stumbled at an article that said he is from Ugbodu and I already know who the Ugbodus are.

speaks some portuguese too watched some goal clips of his in his time with vitoria setubal was being interviewed and he spoke some portuguese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I_stOkYuxw

elyte89:
I tot dey said yekini can't communicate in english

Watch dis interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5csDMt4EH2g

the onus falls on you. you said he's from there prove it

forgiveness:
His he not from Ugbodu in Delta state? You can find out if Ugbodu are Olukumi or not.

and besides he was born in lagos reason he can speak yoruba well

forgiveness:
Na Olukumi. You can then confirm yourself if they are Igbo or not.

anybody can put anything up on wikipedia which other source says he's olukunmi?

forgiveness:
Na Olukumi. You can then confirm yourself if they are Igbo or not.

but nduka na igbo name na!

forgiveness:
Ugbade is from a place where they speak both Igbo and Yoruba language though they are originally Olukumi.

future neymars in the making

BascoVanVeli:
Maybe they should stop shouting like they are dying when they falling because the referee is no more buying it.

i've been reading your arguments these past few days as much as i see some reason in the few points you raised i can't concur with your general conclusion of using the U17 national as a development platform for players strictly based in nigeria.

like tbaba rightly said national teams are not charity organizations for helping the less privileged it's for the best of the best in this case the best youth players in the U17 category being selected to represent the country. if like you argued we should use U17 to help and give exposure to less privileged kids then we should just go to makoko or any random slum in nigeria and pick boys since they need it most to change their lives abi?

also would it be fair to deny any nigerian a chance to prove his or herself whether born in US, UK Vietnam or wherever especially if such kids have left there comfort zone and indicated interest to represent nigeria?

the U17s by default anyway is structured to give our local kids a chance to shine so the current setup won't change too drastically over the years. outstanding kids born overseas who have indicated interest to rep nigeria will also be included as time goes on.

TheGoodJoe:
The responsibility lies with the clubs. So if the clubs are not developing, what should we do? Fold arms and throw away the little opportunities we have? You all agree we have no good structure for development.

Other countries like Brazil, Argentina, England, Italy, Germany, France, Spain etc have good structures we do not. So we can not use the U17 for just winning competitions. The foreign borns still have gold mines to excel and can play their part in the near future. However, we still have the responsibility to help the little that we can and the U17 stands a good opportunity until we fix our system which is not getting fixed in the coming years.

Finito.

komekn:
When exactly did he become poor according to you❓ Please give your unit of measurement to conclude he was poor.

The time sequence is the very important and intrinsic to any deduction on this subject.

At the time he made his commitment in the summer of
2017 he was still playing for Wolves. And just played his last game for England U21. That's the pertinent time frame. I could add it was after he had just secured a long term contract with Wolves then Mendes and Nuno came in and everything changed literally over night.

So at what stage did he become poor ❓

Although not particularly relevant but since his move to Sheffield Wednesday in the January transfer window. He had been a stand out player for Sheffield Wednesday. Scoring 3 goals in 11 games for a defender is quite impressive considering he had his first game in February. Is that your idea of poor. ❓

He was EXCLUDED from Wolves by Nuno not even allowed to train with the first team. Although Wolves were top of the U23 with Dominic getting rave reviews for his performances. He got injured at Ipswich and played less than half a season under the kick and rush manager McCarthey. So when did he become poor ❓

Don't you think you may indeed be prejudiced and biased because your deduction is not based on any facts or figures.

Just emotive negative bias.

sorry you're the one that's been biased and sentimental when you insist that dominic was wrongly excluded by the wolves coach when you have not shown evidence to show that he was one of the best defenders within that time frame for some reason you keep sounding like his football agent other than an unbiased observer who is supposed to look at all sides of the argument

komekn:
Yes l do in general

And l always talk ALSO about being outstanding and the stand out player in your club and league. Which you failed to mention can l suggest intentionally.

The core subject is not my general proposition with regards to football selection.

But the BLATANT DOUBLE STANDARD BY THE NFF with regards to the Continued Consistent Invitations overtures given too German Nigerians Tournigha, Udokhai and Akpoguma. Players who have Consistently rejected these request publicly and on various media platforms. But we have still relentlessly pursued them.

On the other hand there has been continous consistent vitriolic caustic abusive rhetoric directed towards Tega Abrahams. on this forum by so many, that's the first double standard.

Dominic Iorfa has been CONSISTENTLY CONTINOUS IN HIS POSITION, l will play for Nigeria at 23. He breached that earlier position and committed to Nigeria at 21 when he finished with England U21 and had secured a long term contract. Where us the dishonourable act here ❓ I even remember Rohr visited him and then after that. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However we continue to pursue the Germans Nigerian players, without relentlessly with no restraint.

Dominic Iorfa played for England youth teams so did the German boys Dominic had been playing first team football a lot sooner than all.of them.

This is the second shameless double standard.

Keep your response in context please so we can iron out the issues without sentiment or evasion.

komekn again I don't get your point first of all the german boys it's only udokhai who has shown some favourable signals towards playing for nigeria and none of them has even been called up so what's the angst?

On Tammy abraham's matter the boy said he doesn't want to play for us so why are we still arguing over a non issue I wish him all the best if he changes his mind and wants to play for us then we can discuss this matter

As for dominic before this year he had been poor for the past odd year and a half so I don't see we're getting this analysis of poor treatment given to him

komekn:
There is a blatant shameless double standard HERE.

When the NFF approached Uduokhai, Jordan Torunarigha, Akpoguma they have been consistently rejecting all advances. But we are still approaching them to date after continous consistent rejections. They have said some quite unflattering things about Nigeria. But nobody has attacked them with the same venom and unguarded hatred shown to Tega Abrahams. WHY ❓ ❓

The NFF and quite a few here are filled with unbridled hypocrisy. Tega did not tell Amaju to shout at the rooftops that he agreed to play for Nigeria.

A situation that required quite diplomacy and a bit of subterfuge. Amaju carry loudspeaker begin shout.

People have no idea about the high level of pressure that waa brought to bear on Tega. He was caught between a rock and a hard place. Damned if you don't damned if you do. Meanwhile he had not sorted out his long terms future thay could easily been jeopardised.

Three seems to be very limited knowledge of the politics of football and yes discrimination and corruption. You think England were going to sit down and watch another potential Zaha situation happen again.

What l am saying there is lot more to this story that will NEVER EVER BE MADE PUBLIC.

I deviate somewhat we are still chasing these German Nigerian who have blatantly rejected Nigeria. But no mention of Dominic Iorfa who is comparable or even better. Particularly when he made commitments to the SE near three years ago.

scuse me but where is the double standard? akpoguma spoke out of turn nigerians reprimanded him udokhal on the other hand has been respectful

You always talk about players playing in superior leagues so how is dominic playing in the championship better than those playing in the bundesliga

o boy

Odunayaw:

lol so much load on the young boy's shoulders the whole weight of nigeria loun loun

Starboytwo:
eeyah hep me thank him and greet him for his service to humanity,he even tried to fix a whole Nigeria,the little boy tried....

wish him all the best now let's focus on our players doing battle in tanzania

tbaba1234:
I just spoke with Lateef Omidiji and he said that he is completely done with Nigeria. He is just going to focus on club football and play with the USA or the Dutch national team at under 20.

He believes he did his best and there is nothing more, he could have done. He said that he can't fix Nigeria.

maybe CAF just waited for latest FIFA rankings before doing the final seedings

Danielnino00:
The seeding I shared here sometimes ago was fake then... though many sport websites carried it..

Seems like caf gave us more point for winning the afcon in 2013 and also cus of our FIFA ranking... maybe the ranking carries more point cus I don't get why CIV aren't in pot 1 .

hey guys just saw this on CAF's official twitter handle final seedings for the draw released https://twitter.com/CAF_Online

POT 1: Nigeria, Egypt, Cameroon, Senegal, Tunisia, Morocco

POT 2: Ghana, Cote d'ivorie, Mali, Guinea, Algeria, DR Congo

POT 3: South Africa, Uganda, Kenya, Benin, Mauritania, Madagascar

POT 4: Zimbabwe, Angola, Namibia, Tanzania, Guinea bissau, Burundi

i think someone that he trusts needs to get a hold of him and tell him to calm down. not making the U17s is not the end of the world. he's still young his time will come. he should just put his head down and work hard not have a sense of entitlement that because he's oyinbo he will just stroll into the first XI of any of our national teams. wish him well

tbaba1234:
From my interaction with him in the past, he is a very passionate kid. There was already some frustration when he went to the under 15 team but did not get enough playing time. It is still early days, the frustration will still be at its peak.

actually goal.com is right just checked. DR Congo won it as Congo-Kinshasa in 1968 and Zaire in 1974

Joebie:
I will notify goal. Thanks for the correction sir

Modified
And where is South Africa?

just ignore when e don tire nobody go tell am make e move on

krattoss:
calm down

Continue...

i think mbappe is already operating at a world class level. salah and mane are close they have been fairly consistent but they need to start winning trophies.

SharpJoe:
I wonder where you got that from.

Hazard is World Class and has been a class act since 2008 until today.

Neymar from 2010 he was a class act. By 2011, he was the best player in the whole South America and is a class act until today.

So, Neymar, (All though I will wait until the end of next season but clearly World class) same with Hazard.

Mbappe, Salah and Mane, not yet. Top quality players, yes but not World class.

yes looks tactically sound has some good tekkers on him he's promising i agree

SharpJoe:
He looks brilliant and tactically sound. However, I wish we saw more of his ability on the ball. Either way, looks so promising.

i think he did cos solace was doing a player preview for the U17 AFCON on his twitter timeline

tbaba1234:
Did he make the list?

yep that's him

SharpJoe:
I have not seen it but I got a clip from YouTube. Is this the one?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip9w4AF2lk8

https://twitter.com/TheOddSolace

you will have to scroll down abit through his timeline

SharpJoe:
Link please.

real youngsters wish them all the best watch out for a Olatomi Olaniyan. watching highlights of him on Solace Chukwu's twitter handle midfield maestro in the making

tbaba1234:
Your under 17 boys are off to Tanzania.

initially before i would have argued against victor valdes being world class but based on my criteria and the list of achievements you have listed for valdes no sentiments he's world class

andrew444:
The criteria you said is fact

That's what I was saying about victor valdes

Won the Zamora trophy in Spain for about 5/6 times

Was in FIFA team of the year 4 times

I don't know the rest

i concur remember saying something similar some years back

my criteria for being world class:

1. be an exceptional performer in your role which all and sundry will acknowledge (not just club fans and country men)

2. personal awards won (best goalkeeper, top scorer, team of tournament etc)

3. churning out consistent good sometimes great performances over a long period of time for club and country

4. trophies won club or country

now if a player ticks all the boxes in the above mentioned criteria then i would consider him world class

TheGoodJoe:
For a player to be tagged World Class, the player has to be performing at the highest level for at least 10 years.

Most of this players tagged World Class are top quality players, not World class.

Even Van Dijk isn't. He is a top quality player. If he continues with this form for at least a decade, then we can tag him and the others World class.

Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso, Ribery, Robben etc. Players who dominated the game for a decade or more. That is playing at the highest level for a long time.

With this, Aubameyang and the others are not World Class players. Certainly, top quality.

sheyishemba:
you guys are forgetting someone.....TYRONNE EBUEHI you guys should know if he is fit he'll make AFCON squad

that is the issue if. Added to that he has been out of action for too long so he'll be lacking match fitness it's better not to rush him let's leave him to recover in peace and come back stronger for the new season

forgiveness:
Select the players.

Aina shehu ekong balogun omeruo awaziem/ajayi collins

iwobi Mikel etebo ogu ndidi