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AbuTwins:
This is false. It was when man was lonely that the woman was created. Genesis 2:18 - Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him. [b]So a woman is basically a man's helper from your God and Bible. Paul also said: Neither was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for man 1 Corinthians 11:9

Alhamdulillah, you admitted here that Islam enjoins treating women well. Women includes our mother, daughter, sisters and wives! No Bible verse can equal this!

Same Paul said: For a man should not have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man. 1 Corinthians 11:7 What more slavery verses do you need?

While you already agreed in 1b above that Islam encourages us to treat women well, how do we strike someone we are to treat well? That means the striking should be from the place of correction and not to harm. You quoted it yourself! "Treat women well" - (Sahih al-Bukhari 3331) And it not true that the Christian command is for a man to die for his wife! Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife is what Paul says in Ephesians 5:22-23. What does it mean for a gender to submit to another? Can you show us where a man is to submit to a woman in the Bible?

You still haven't shown which of the Bible part was written by a woman! How many women were among the 12 disciples of Jesus? How many early Church mothers do you know and why are they at the very back seat if truly there's equality in Christianity?

Despite a woman's testimony as a witness being as such, there are still women who narrated the texts of Islam from the Prophet. Aisha bint Abu Bakr, Hafsa bint Umar, Umm Salama (Hind bint Abi Umayya), Umm Habiba (Ramlah bint Abi Sufyan) and Maymuna bint al-Harith! Those close to the Prophet and witnessed his traditions!

And women are more in hell is justifiable as there are more women than men even on earth! The inheritance of woman is also justified since she inherits from her father, husband and children! A woman may inherit from her father and then her husband!

Christianity didn't liberate any women from anywhere! Paul messed everything up after Jesus. Tell us why a woman should cover and not a man? Why is a woman the glory of man? Why is a woman created for man, all according to Paul?

You are quoting Deborah and Huldah who appeared long before Jesus to justify Christianity? No be deceit be that? Priscilla can correct but she is to cover head and keep quiet. Why are men not adviced to stop the same disruptive chatter by keeping silent?

God in the Bible can be qualified any how the writer intends! Sometimes God is called a man warrior in Exodus 15:3. Sometimes God is qualified as a drunk in Psalms 78:65. So using such word for God does not suprise me. But on a lighter mode, the context is different. God helps His creation while Eve was created as a helper to Adam when he was alone!

Once again, by creation they were not equal in the Bible. God created Adam. He made Eve from Adam when he was alone!

Those were the narrations of men allegedly called Luke, John, etc. No women exists physically as an author of the Bible or even as a narrator from Jesus.

When you say Christianity above do you mean Paul? Jesus didn't say "There's neither male or female" but Paul. And why encourage the adultery of the adultrous woman instead of punishing her and the culprit man according to the law?

Even checking the New testament you'll see where Jesus called his mum "Woman.... before the wine miracle at the wedding in Cana" and idiomatically called the Canaanite woman dog!
I agree he called Peter Satan and some others snakes, etc.

But it is false that Christianity made such declaration!

AbuTwins:
REPLY TO YOUR POINTS SINCE YOU CAME WITH CONFIDENCE, LET’S GO SMALL SMALL 😄

1️⃣ “Woman is basically man's helper”

You quoted Genesis 2:18 but conveniently avoided what the Hebrew actually means.

The word translated “helper” is ezer the same word repeatedly used for God helping humans (e.g., Psalm 33:20). Unless you want to argue God is subordinate to man, your point already collapses.

Helper ≠ inferior.
It means suitable partner or strong support.

Also, Paul saying woman was created “for man” in 1 Corinthians 11:9 does NOT stand alone because two verses later Paul balances it:

“Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor man of woman.” — 1 Corinthians 11:11

You quoted half; I brought the full context. 👍

2️⃣ “You admitted Islam treats women well”

😂😂 My brother, do you understand English?

Saying Islam claims to treat women well is not the same as saying the system actually does.

Even the hadith you quoted contains the famous “crooked rib” statement. When someone describes an entire gender as inherently crooked, that is not exactly a glowing anthropology.

So please don’t build mansion on misunderstanding.

3️⃣ “How do we strike someone we are to treat well?”

This is exactly the tension critics point out.

Because the text (Qur’an 4:34) explicitly permits striking after admonition and bed-separation. You are now doing interpretive gymnastics to soften what the plain reading allows.

Meanwhile, in Christianity:

“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.” — Ephesians 5:25

Not “strike her lightly.”
Not “correct her physically.”
But self-sacrificial love.

You quoted submission but skipped the heavier burden placed on husbands. That selective reading again.

4️⃣ “Show where a man submits to a woman”

Easy.

“Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” — Ephesians 5:21

Mutual submission is the governing principle before Paul even begins household instructions.

Also:

• Husbands must love sacrificially
• Must not be harsh (Colossians 3:19)
• Must honor wives (1 Peter 3:7)

Submission in Christian teaching is not one-sided domination it is structured mutual responsibility.

5️⃣ “No women authored the Bible”

This is a weak argument historically.

Ancient Near Eastern literature in general rarely preserved female authorship including early Islamic written transmission, which was also overwhelmingly male-recorded.

Yet women in the New Testament are:

• first witnesses of the resurrection
• leaders of house churches (e.g., Lydia)
• teachers alongside apostles (Priscilla)

If Christianity were trying to erase women, making them the first resurrection witnesses (in a culture where female testimony was discounted) would be a very strange strategy.

6️⃣ “Women are more in hell because they are more in number”

This is not what the hadith itself gives as the primary reason.

The narration explicitly mentions:

• ingratitude to husbands
• frequent cursing

So bringing population statistics after the fact is an attempted rationalization, not what the text itself says.

7️⃣ “Paul messed everything up”

This one always makes me smile.

Because historically, even secular scholars agree Paul’s letters are among the earliest Christian documents we possess decades before later theological developments.

If you reject Paul entirely, you are essentially proposing a version of Christianity that did not historically exist in the first century.

That is your right but let’s at least be historically honest.

8️⃣ “Jesus called his mother ‘woman’”

This is a classic misunderstanding of Greek idiom.

In Koine Greek, “Woman” (gynai) was a respectful form of address closer to “Ma’am,” not an insult.

Same way Jesus used strong language for men too:

• called Peter “Satan”
• called Pharisees “whitewashed tombs”
• called Herod “that fox”

So portraying this as misogyny is selective outrage.

9️⃣ “Deborah and Huldah were before Jesus”

You asked for evidence that the Bible contains female leadership you were given it now you are moving goalposts.

Deborah was:

• a prophet
• a judge over Israel
• a national leader

That already disproves the claim that the biblical tradition universally sidelines women.

🔟 Final point about equality at creation

Genesis actually presents something deeper than the oversimplification you gave.

Yes, Eve was formed from Adam but the narrative conclusion is:

“Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife…” — Genesis 2:24

In ancient patriarchal culture, the man leaving his household to cleave to his wife was radically counter-cultural.

The text is describing interdependence, not disposable subordination.

BOTTOM LINE

Your arguments rely heavily on:

• selective quotation
• ignoring immediate context
• and reading modern assumptions into ancient texts

If we are going to have this debate, let’s have it with the full texts on the table not half-verses and vibes.



Permission to Strike Wives — Plain Text

You tried to soften this, but the verse is still there:

“…As for those from whom you fear disobedience admonish them, abandon them in bed, and strike them…” — Qur’an 4:34

Key issue:

• No equivalent verse allowing women to strike husbands
• Classical tafsir (e.g., Ibn Kathir) affirms physical hitting
• Only later apologetics try to redefine it as “symbolic”

If a book explicitly permits one gender to physically discipline the other, calling that equality is… ambitious.

Child Marriage Precedent

This is one of the most uncomfortable areas many people avoid.

Authentic hadith:

The Prophet married Aisha when she was six and consummated the marriage when she was nine. Sahih al-Bukhari 5134, 5158

Whether one defends it historically or not, the fact remains:

• It establishes a prophetic precedent
• It has been used in fiqh to permit child marriage
• It raises serious ethical concerns in modern analysis

This is why the issue keeps coming up globally.

Women’s Testimony Worth Half

The Qur’an states:

“…Call upon two of your men as witnesses. And if two men are not available, then a man and two women…” — Qur’an 2:282

The text itself gives the reason:

“…so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her…”

Implication:

• Built-in assumption of female unreliability
• Legal inequality explicitly codified
• Not merely cultural it is textual

You cannot shout “honour” while ignoring this structural difference.

Majority of Hell Inhabitants

You tried to explain this away, but the hadith is explicit:

“I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women.” — Sahih al-Bukhari 3241; Sahih Muslim 2737

And the stated reasons include:

• ingratitude to husbands
• frequent cursing

Notice:

This is not presented as a demographic accident but as a moral pattern.

That raises theological questions you have not resolved.

Angels Curse the Wife at Night

Another uncomfortable text:

“If a husband calls his wife to his bed and she refuses… the angels curse her until morning.” — Sahih al-Bukhari 3237; Sahih Muslim 1436

Serious concerns here:

• Sexual availability framed as near-obligation
• Supernatural punishment attached
• No parallel hadith about husbands being cursed for neglect

Again where is the symmetrical accountability?

Marriage Without Explicit Verbal Consent (Classical Fiqh Issue)

Hadith often cited:

“A previously married woman has more right to her person than her guardian, and a virgin’s consent is her silence.” — Sahih Muslim 1421

Scholars debated this heavily because:

• Silence ≠ enthusiastic consent
• It opened doors historically to guardian pressure
• It shows the legal framework was not built around modern consent standards

Even many Muslim reformers today acknowledge this tension.

8️⃣ Women as “Deficient in Intelligence and Religion”

This one is very direct:

“I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women).” — Sahih al-Bukhari 304; Sahih Muslim 80

Before you rush to reinterpret note:

• This is sahih
• It is widely cited in classical literature
• It has shaped centuries of jurisprudential attitudes

Calling women “deficient” and then saying the system fully honours them is… difficult to reconcile.

9️⃣ The Concubine Issue (Often Avoided)

The Qur’an repeatedly permits relations with:

“…those whom your right hands possess…” — Qur’an 23:5-6; 4:24

Historically understood as female captives/slaves.

Questions this raises:

• No requirement of formal marriage
• Power imbalance is obvious
• Classical jurists permitted intimacy with captives

This is one of the biggest ethical debates in modern scholarship.

FINAL WORD LET’S BE HONEST

You are free to interpret your texts positively that is your right.

But when the primary sources themselves contain:

• wife-striking permission
• half-weight testimony
• majority-in-hell statements
• “deficient in intelligence” language
• child marriage precedent
• concubinage allowances

…then simply repeating “Islam honours women” without addressing these texts head-on is not a serious argument.

I haven't talked about the virgins in heaven o and the sexism behind this. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Over to you. 👍

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AntiChristian:
If you can join historical Arabia to Islam can we join historical Israel to Christianity too?
Read well before you answer!

AbuTwins:
Islam is the Only Religion That Gave Women Identity
Islam uniquely honors and grants women a clear, dignified identity rooted in divine guidance, setting it apart from Christianity and other faiths.

Islam’s Affirmation of Women’s Identity:
#The Qur'an explicitly recognizes women as full moral and spiritual beings with rights and responsibilities. Allah says:
“And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women...” (Qur’an 2:228)

#The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) emphasized respect and kindness toward women, stating:
“The best of you are those who are best to their women.” (Tirmidhi)

#Islam grants women rights to inheritance, education, marriage consent, and economic independence—rights that were revolutionary at the time of revelation.

Comparison with Christianity:
#While Christianity preaches spiritual equality, traditional interpretations often placed women in subordinate roles, sometimes limiting their public religious participation. For example, 1 Corinthians 14:34 instructs women to be silent in churches, which has historically been used to restrict women’s roles.

#The Bible’s creation narrative (Genesis 2) has been interpreted by some to imply woman’s secondary status, created from man’s rib, whereas Islam teaches that men and women were created from a single soul:
“O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul...” (Qur’an 4:1)

#Islam’s legal and social framework actively protects women’s rights and identity, while Christianity’s historical practices often reflected patriarchal cultural norms.

Checking the Christian scriptures you'll never see the input of any woman in the compilation of the Bible! They were all men - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc! This is too loud!

Islam is the only religion that gave women a clear, honored identity with comprehensive rights and dignity from its inception, supported by divine scripture and prophetic teachings. It elevated women’s status spiritually, socially, and legally, ensuring their full humanity and individuality, unlike Christianity’s historical approach which often subordinated women under cultural interpretations.

“This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh...” (Genesis 2:23)

LibertyRep:
Put body? What's my own? The security agent can only choose not to humiliate him, it's not his choice.

If he resist arrest and act funny, they'll bundle him.

HighChiefZino:
I strongly dislike APC nor anything that is connected to that evil party; however, I am not in support of this man either. His tenure was nothing short of a horror movie for Christians, especially those in Southern Kaduna

If he has a question to answer, he should go and do so and leave Nigerians alone in peace. When this ones in Aso-rock and senate tenures end, they should get ready to answer to Nigerians some day too, nonsense.

Kalulu44:
No welcome me jare, I dey vex, leave me alone hahahaha. Abeg I no take am to heart o

Kalulu44:
Na only you know wetin PTSD mean, I don't know so thanks and no thanks

Bros you tried. But Nigerians no dey word, na so my guy go open blog wen he no get Lappy.. 5naira he no make. Cyber cafe finish his money.. Before you start blogging nwa nne get a raptop.

QuinQ:
Yiu didn't know that Arabs enslaved Africans, raped black women and castrated black men??

Wealthyonos:
How much for 20 birds Reply asap

cliffypatt:
What you wrote about the oyo is a lie, which half of West Africa did oyo control?

Oyo that lost ilorin to the fulanis, for defeated by dahomey Amazons and even lost the kiriji war. Please stop writing or saying what isn't right.

AbuTwins:
Islam is the Only Religion That Gave Women Identity
Islam uniquely honors and grants women a clear, dignified identity rooted in divine guidance, setting it apart from Christianity and other faiths.

Islam’s Affirmation of Women’s Identity:
#The Qur'an explicitly recognizes women as full moral and spiritual beings with rights and responsibilities. Allah says:
“And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women...” (Qur’an 2:228)

#The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) emphasized respect and kindness toward women, stating:
“The best of you are those who are best to their women.” (Tirmidhi)

#Islam grants women rights to inheritance, education, marriage consent, and economic independence—rights that were revolutionary at the time of revelation.

Comparison with Christianity:
#While Christianity preaches spiritual equality, traditional interpretations often placed women in subordinate roles, sometimes limiting their public religious participation. For example, 1 Corinthians 14:34 instructs women to be silent in churches, which has historically been used to restrict women’s roles.

#The Bible’s creation narrative (Genesis 2) has been interpreted by some to imply woman’s secondary status, created from man’s rib, whereas Islam teaches that men and women were created from a single soul:
“O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul...” (Qur’an 4:1)

#Islam’s legal and social framework actively protects women’s rights and identity, while Christianity’s historical practices often reflected patriarchal cultural norms.

Checking the Christian scriptures you'll never see the input of any woman in the compilation of the Bible! They were all men - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc! This is too loud!

Islam is the only religion that gave women a clear, honored identity with comprehensive rights and dignity from its inception, supported by divine scripture and prophetic teachings. It elevated women’s status spiritually, socially, and legally, ensuring their full humanity and individuality, unlike Christianity’s historical approach which often subordinated women under cultural interpretations.

“This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh...” (Genesis 2:23)

AbuTwins:
Islam is the Only Religion That Gave Women Identity
Islam uniquely honors and grants women a clear, dignified identity rooted in divine guidance, setting it apart from Christianity and other faiths.

Islam’s Affirmation of Women’s Identity:
#The Qur'an explicitly recognizes women as full moral and spiritual beings with rights and responsibilities. Allah says:
“And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women...” (Qur’an 2:228)

#The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) emphasized respect and kindness toward women, stating:
“The best of you are those who are best to their women.” (Tirmidhi)

#Islam grants women rights to inheritance, education, marriage consent, and economic independence—rights that were revolutionary at the time of revelation.

Comparison with Christianity:
#While Christianity preaches spiritual equality, traditional interpretations often placed women in subordinate roles, sometimes limiting their public religious participation. For example, 1 Corinthians 14:34 instructs women to be silent in churches, which has historically been used to restrict women’s roles.

#The Bible’s creation narrative (Genesis 2) has been interpreted by some to imply woman’s secondary status, created from man’s rib, whereas Islam teaches that men and women were created from a single soul:
“O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul...” (Qur’an 4:1)

#Islam’s legal and social framework actively protects women’s rights and identity, while Christianity’s historical practices often reflected patriarchal cultural norms.

Checking the Christian scriptures you'll never see the input of any woman in the compilation of the Bible! They were all men - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc! This is too loud!

Islam is the only religion that gave women a clear, honored identity with comprehensive rights and dignity from its inception, supported by divine scripture and prophetic teachings. It elevated women’s status spiritually, socially, and legally, ensuring their full humanity and individuality, unlike Christianity’s historical approach which often subordinated women under cultural interpretations.

DeclanR:
Then, don't also decide for me what to type.
Thanks

ogododo:
Residents of the community in Sabon Birni Local Government Area of Sokoto State have fled, leaving homes empty and properties damaged.

Bandits reportedly loyal to notorious kingpin Bello Turji have reported killed the village head of Magarau, its chief Imam, and deserted the entire village.

Residents of the community in Sabon Birni Local Government Area of Sokoto State have fled, leaving homes empty and properties damaged.

A video obtained posted online by security expert Bakatsine shows the condition of the village after the attacks.

The narrator described the house of the late village head, highlighting the impact of the violence on the community.

“I hope the general public can see; this is what is left of the house of the late village head of Magarau, who was killed by armed bandits,” he said.

“This is the centre of the village and you will not find anyone here, not even an animal. They were displaced while many others were killed.”

The video also shows the deserted home of the late chief Imam.

The narrator explained that buildings were destroyed and while several properties were looted.

“Also, as you can see in this video, that is the deserted house of the late chief Imam of Magarau, who was also killed by the bandits. Houses were demolished and food items were carted away. And the entire village is now empty; no one is living there,” he said.

Also seen is the locked and empty home of the local vigilante leader, who was killed.

The narrator said, “Also, the empty house that has been locked is the house of the head of local vigilantes; he was also killed by the bandits.”

The attacks in Magarau follow a series of recent violent incidents attributed to armed groups in other parts of Nigeria.

Nigeria has been experiencing escalating insecurity, particularly in the North Central, Northwest, and Northeast regions.

In Kwara State, gunmen attacked the communities of Woro and Nuku, killing at least 162 people, according to the Red Cross and local authorities, with some estimates putting the toll at around 170.

Homes and shops were set ablaze as residents fled into the surrounding bushland, marking one of the deadliest assaults of the year.

In Kaduna State, 166 worshippers abducted during raids on churches in Kajuru Local Government Area in mid‑January have reportedly been freed, the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) confirmed. The kidnappings initially involved about 177 people, with 11 escaping shortly after the attacks.

Benue State has also experienced organised violence, with armed attacks resulting in multiple civilian deaths and severe disruption to rural communities.

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DeclanR:
See mentality abeg..

Instead of u to think of how you can be the one giving out free food to the less privileged ones, you're waiting to get free food?

May God show u Mercy

polite2:
Osimen is next...big clubs don't appreciate players with African origin

chiagozien:
The same oya soldiers that dehomey women defeated or another one?



How come they lost kwara to fulanis?

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davidaluu:
The thing about you is that you're a developer that's it. That's where it stops, an employee for others to achieve their dreams and can be replaced easily in the coming years with AI. You basically exist to make tech companies richer. That's why you can't think like a visionary or founder

gistray:
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