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HealthRe: Doctor Goes Wild In Ondo State, Baths Nurse With Water From Patient’s Wound by chuksbogus: 2:19pm On Jun 16, 2018
MrBigiman:
When will it be over. Doctors have suffered unfairly in this country, and yet don't make noise. The Diploma degree holder had the effrontery to ask someone working for a Medical Doctor to leave. Such bad behaviour and u want it to be swept under the carpet. I hope the Nurse is sacked as detterent to ther Ill mannered Johesu workers.
..

I want to take it that you must be a kid. So I will pretend you are practicing letter writing .

No one ,the health attendant works under a nurse not a Dr.
secondly is an orderly suppose to be irrigating a patient wound?
Did you here the nurse said she is now here to help the Dr? that the health attendant should go for the errand he was sent to before the Dr came in .

Haba mana! How did you know the Nurse is a Diploma holder ?

Does all these warrant a "Dr " knowing how contaminated a wound irrigated water is? and even when he did it the first time the nurse gave him a benefit of the doubt by asking " hope this was a mistake " but he went ahead and carried it with his hand and poured. I actually think that Dr is not well upstairs
FamilyRe: My Wife's Family Has Ruined My Home And My Life by chuksbogus: 6:43am On Jun 03, 2018
I hope you can have the courage to see through what ever your decision is because if alone the way you succumb again that will be your end.They will so trample on uoi that u will regret trying to stand up to them.


I am married for 8 yrs now and I can tell you that it was what you allowed . Be a man ,call your wife and instruct her on what you want not dialogue this thing cus I know there have been dialogues before.


secondly ,whether they told you or not you have to swallow your pride for your sanity and inform your people !!!! They should go with you to your in-law and reach some sort of agreement with them .All this is for you to be justified for the next action you are going to take


After that ,put your feet down in your house and call the short. keel darling darling for side this time.

If the interference continue leave the marriage !! if they drag children leave them for her ,later you will settle that.


Start being very carful with this event of wife killing their husband in their sleep ,cus the parents might instruct her to hurt you so as to make you loyal.


Be outspoken when you get to ur in-law house don't do that respect thing .let them see you in another way with that they will be shocked that you have that courage compared to who they were seeing before.
HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by chuksbogus: 9:24pm On May 20, 2018
He recognises how important Nurses are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKptt_PEzDs
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 7:21pm On May 20, 2018
At least he know the value of a Nurse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKptt_PEzDs
HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by chuksbogus: 5:40pm On May 20, 2018
DrP2000:
The irony of the strike. Johesu are on strike but majority of the patients we treat now are johesu members or their relatives and the question is , why coming to hospital for treatment when you are on strike. One even rushed his son to our hospital yesterday, we resuscitated the dying child and even transfused the child. The man is a senior lab scientists in support of the strike, all these while the blood bank was locked up but when we requested for blood for his child, he secretly got the keys from.his colleague and they provided us with the blood we need. God is watching us all. Your career is what you chose for yourself don't envy others, if you want to earn like a doctor pls go and be one. So many JOHESU members now hang sthethoscope and doctors stickers on their car, impersonating to be doctors. Pls be proud of your profession and don't immitate others, I wonder what you are teaching your children
Please is Stethoscope for Doctors please?
HealthAt Least Obama Knows The Worth Of A Nurse (video) by chuksbogus(op):
Its just in this failed state that we undervalue people who are should be valued while mediocre is celebrated


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKptt_PEzDs.
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 3:05pm On May 20, 2018
A Prof of surgery wrote this

On Doctors, JOHESU, Hospitals (administration, titles & salaries) and the Patients.

What I write here is a brief account of my thoughts.

1. We the doctors have to improve on our human relationship skills. Nothing to do with JOHESU. We relate poorly with ourselves. It took me years to notice this so I was guilty for so long. I cannot say if I am now different but others will judge but I know I have worked very hard on myself.

*We hate the truth especially when we are the slackers and we embrace mediocrity and despise excellence. Yes, you would find diligent doctors producing heartwarming results and the sloppy doctors even unwilling to change. The system supports this.
*check what we do to ourselves when it comes to appointments to posts (legendary) and worse if it is an election
*Why should the Neurosurgeon, Cardiothoracic surgeon, General surgeon and Laboratory Physician or Community health physician earn the same call duty allowances even as doctors? May be there should be a standard call duty allowances and then the quantum of your work or inconvenience on duty should then be calculated further to determine your earnings. Will my colleagues support this? So there would new struggles within.

2. JOHESU May have suffered in the hands of doctors. We despised them, didn't work for their progress until they started having a voice of their own or working for themselves. We resisted the posts of even Assistant Director for Nursing--i saw this as a trainee surgeon in UCH. Now we have Director of Nursing Services. They got these for themselves. How can you be a leader with lack of care for your team members? However, the response from JOHESU has been violent and would be counter-productive in the long haul. May be it is part of negotiation: throw everything in and eventually when the system collapses, you would get something a little more than what you have now. He that is down fears no fall!

*JOHESU has the numbers and more money to get circulars anyhow in a corrupt country. Capitation dues by members staggering. Doctors are fewer, won't pay enough dues etc.

*Respect must be MUTUAL.

*Whether the doctors are good or not, JOHESU thinking that the doctor can be sidelined or rubbished is a suicidal tendency that would bring the house down on everyone. That's where we are now with the current strike.

* A physiotherapist thinking he can function without the neurosurgeon, neurologist or orthotics beats my imagination!

* A Pharmacist or Nurse thinking he can function without the specialist doctors suggests inadequate training (no insults intended).

I have said it too that
*Doctors thinking they can function without the nurse, pharmacist or others is poor, unhelpful or mediocre thinking

3 CMD positions in University Teaching Hospitals. I believe for administrative convenience, a lecturer in a University who is a Honorary Consultant specialist in a University Teaching Hospital has to choose one employer for salaries and wages then he is a staff of the University and he collects allowances in the Hospital where he is labelled no staff. On this account JOHESU says non-staff can not now head the University Teaching Hospital. Who understands the mandate more than a lecturer? I agree you don't have to be a lecturer to understand the mandate but then also you cannot close the door on a lecturer-consultant!

All the arguments of long years in training, go and do JAMB and study medicine, privatise the hospitals (doctors) and we too can cripple services without the doctors or start negotiating how to make degree trainings to be as long as for doctors hence Doctor of Physiothery, Optometry, Doctor of Pharmacy etc are all self-serving.

What's the way forward?
What caused all these?
Where is the PATIENT health and WELLNESS in all these struggles?

The corruption in Government is another issue that makes all these shenanigans possible! Appointments, Discipline, Circulars, discriminatory no work, no pay

These are not questions for one person to answer. I have my idea as but I can be labelled biased because I am a doctor. Suffice it to throw these questions to the public space and hope we shall get some workable, non-emotional or self-serving solutions. We know that these issues are not found in Private Hospitals or outside Nigeria!

Food for thoughts
HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by chuksbogus: 3:04pm On May 20, 2018
A Prof of surgery wrote this

On Doctors, JOHESU, Hospitals (administration, titles & salaries) and the Patients.

What I write here is a brief account of my thoughts.

1. We the doctors have to improve on our human relationship skills. Nothing to do with JOHESU. We relate poorly with ourselves. It took me years to notice this so I was guilty for so long. I cannot say if I am now different but others will judge but I know I have worked very hard on myself.

*We hate the truth especially when we are the slackers and we embrace mediocrity and despise excellence. Yes, you would find diligent doctors producing heartwarming results and the sloppy doctors even unwilling to change. The system supports this.
*check what we do to ourselves when it comes to appointments to posts (legendary) and worse if it is an election
*Why should the Neurosurgeon, Cardiothoracic surgeon, General surgeon and Laboratory Physician or Community health physician earn the same call duty allowances even as doctors? May be there should be a standard call duty allowances and then the quantum of your work or inconvenience on duty should then be calculated further to determine your earnings. Will my colleagues support this? So there would new struggles within.

2. JOHESU May have suffered in the hands of doctors. We despised them, didn't work for their progress until they started having a voice of their own or working for themselves. We resisted the posts of even Assistant Director for Nursing--i saw this as a trainee surgeon in UCH. Now we have Director of Nursing Services. They got these for themselves. How can you be a leader with lack of care for your team members? However, the response from JOHESU has been violent and would be counter-productive in the long haul. May be it is part of negotiation: throw everything in and eventually when the system collapses, you would get something a little more than what you have now. He that is down fears no fall!

*JOHESU has the numbers and more money to get circulars anyhow in a corrupt country. Capitation dues by members staggering. Doctors are fewer, won't pay enough dues etc.

*Respect must be MUTUAL.

*Whether the doctors are good or not, JOHESU thinking that the doctor can be sidelined or rubbished is a suicidal tendency that would bring the house down on everyone. That's where we are now with the current strike.

* A physiotherapist thinking he can function without the neurosurgeon, neurologist or orthotics beats my imagination!

* A Pharmacist or Nurse thinking he can function without the specialist doctors suggests inadequate training (no insults intended).

I have said it too that
*Doctors thinking they can function without the nurse, pharmacist or others is poor, unhelpful or mediocre thinking

3 CMD positions in University Teaching Hospitals. I believe for administrative convenience, a lecturer in a University who is a Honorary Consultant specialist in a University Teaching Hospital has to choose one employer for salaries and wages then he is a staff of the University and he collects allowances in the Hospital where he is labelled no staff. On this account JOHESU says non-staff can not now head the University Teaching Hospital. Who understands the mandate more than a lecturer? I agree you don't have to be a lecturer to understand the mandate but then also you cannot close the door on a lecturer-consultant!

All the arguments of long years in training, go and do JAMB and study medicine, privatise the hospitals (doctors) and we too can cripple services without the doctors or start negotiating how to make degree trainings to be as long as for doctors hence Doctor of Physiothery, Optometry, Doctor of Pharmacy etc are all self-serving.

What's the way forward?
What caused all these?
Where is the PATIENT health and WELLNESS in all these struggles?

The corruption in Government is another issue that makes all these shenanigans possible! Appointments, Discipline, Circulars, discriminatory no work, no pay

These are not questions for one person to answer. I have my idea as but I can be labelled biased because I am a doctor. Suffice it to throw these questions to the public space and hope we shall get some workable, non-emotional or self-serving solutions. We know that these issues are not found in Private Hospitals or outside Nigeria!

Food for thoughts
Nairaland GeneralRe: 19 JOHESU Members UBTH Chapter Involved In An Accident (photo) by chuksbogus: 9:52pm On May 19, 2018
Benite:
Will you shut up your mouth
This news is 100% true
Something is seriously wrong with you.
Copied

"Yes, there was an accident of a group transiting to Auchi from Benin. They were rushed to our A/E at Irrua.
There were no deaths, but minor bruises and cuts. But some have mandibular distortions and other degrees of fractures that may need some days in hospital and scans to be done. But they are all stable.
We swung into action trying to call some of our nurses, and store officers and union members to go help out, we didn't really ask who they were initially, and we didn't want to argue while accident victims suffer. They are all there now helping with the treatment of the injured as it was very clear that the Doctors were helpless at a point. I have called the HOD of general stores to help with treatment items. The HOD of Pharmacy, my boss, was already on ground helping with pharmaceuticals, the nurses have arrived as their chairperson mandated and we have the situation under great control. After putting the anxiety to rest, we decided to really find out who the victims are and my secretary spoke to them and they said they are cleaners in UBTH. I put a call through to Comrade Igbinovia( SSA chair, UBTH) who confirmed to me that the cleaners in UBTH are all outsourced staff and belong to no union in UBTH.
Well, we are happy to relax our strike a bit for the injured and we are happy to prove that treatments are difficult without JOHESU members. We are also happy to prove that we have a largely humanitarian mindset.
That's the summary of what happened.
We have granted an interview in this regard to NTA Iruekpen which may end up at NTA Benin and possibly Abuja.
We will keep you updated as we go back to our total strike in this branch which is almost 100% compliant."

copied
Nairaland GeneralRe: 19 JOHESU Members UBTH Chapter Involved In An Accident (photo) by chuksbogus:
Benite:
Will you shut up your mouth
This news is 100% true
Something is seriously wrong with you.
You are wrong !!! I am a Unit NANNM secretary in Benin I called the unit chairman who told me it was a lie!!/here is my number call or flash and I will call u and play a recorded call that I have with her .
Nairaland GeneralRe: 19 JOHESU Members UBTH Chapter Involved In An Accident (photo) by chuksbogus: 7:39pm On May 19, 2018
atise:
Indeed quite heroic of the doctors.

We have been called all sorts of names by JOHESU, yet we are the ones still saving their lives.
In a strike of their making!
To start with the news is FAKE !!!
Secondly when you / are sick who nurse you to health ?
its so bad when you expect a supposed professional to reason like one only to be faced with infantile thinking.
Until you acknowledge the fact that health care delivery is a team work and when one member mess up the efforts of the whole team is gone .

For your information. those were outsourced / contract workers of UBTH they are not Johesu members and if its the Drs that are saving their life why di the CMAC call the unit NANNM chairperson begging that some nurses be allowed to attend to them which she did .So why didn't Drs do it all alone? Keep being in Denial
HealthRe: Court Orders JOHESU To End Strike And Resume Work Within 24 Hours by chuksbogus: 11:52pm On May 17, 2018
the information is false .its just the NMA propaganda . One of the reasons for the strike is that fed government refused to implement a court order from a case they took JOHESU and johesu won them . So they don't have the monopoly of disobeying court order
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 2:50pm On May 12, 2018
Ang88:
U are not making sense... I'm a graduate nurse. I work in a teaching hospital... My Friend had two miscarriages in my ward because of work stress... Two nurses to thirty patients..if ur relation has been admitted to a govt hospital, u will understand the role nurses play... U give medication, insulin, dress dirty wounds that most doctors run away from, u check vitals, bathe and change pampers of grown adults,take patients for various investigations, ensure u collect results, make beds, feed patients and the list continues...u even get to teach some of the house officers who are polite enough to tell u they don't know certain procedures....As a graduate nurse my salary is not up to no ninety thousand and sometimes they pay u seventy something thousand.... I choose nursing because of my aunty who is a nurse in America... I graduated as one of the best in my department with a second class upper division and my jamb score was 294 My widowed mother spent money to train me but I can't even take very good care of her, the way I want, husband, children..... God help me o, I have started doing business
u can contact me ,I will tell you how to run away to whereby will be appreciated. 07061136949. u can whatsap
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 2:32pm On May 12, 2018
TempoJames:
JOHESU is already a failure!

Yes, I agree they make up 95% population of health sector but one inteligent head is better than 9 dumb heads. Imagine their chairman was very proud to say "we want to show the FG that we make up 95% of health sector".

JOHESU war will just end up as Biafra agitations and will lead to choas among its members when they come back with unmet demands.

If these demands are obtainable in the top 20 countries with best standards of medical practise I wouldn't be arguing here. Check the CMD and HODs in Hodgkin hospital.

We are short of doctors . Else JOHESU could know that the health care can operate functionally without them. The only people that could survive the revolution are pharmacists as doctors are not licensed to operate a pharmacy. Physiotherapy is a heck in Nigeria. Even Registered nurses indulge in physiotherapy.Doctors can chart TPR,dress wounds, prepare patients for surgery,autoclave instruments and all those stuffs. Recruit as many residents in pathology as possible then medlab sci. could know they are not indispensable. Recruit as many residents in radiology as possible. Only then could JOHESU know that doctors are all round. Doctors don't just want to take their work.


Doctors are just worried about nothing. Increase of salary will even be to doctors' favour. Only then could the relativity makes much sense. Imagine if a medlab sci. earns 200k and a doc earns 300k then FG decides to increase it by 20%. Automatically med lab sci. could earn 240K while a doc earns 360k. you see the relativity shifts from 100k to 120k. So doctors should even support Johesu but on grounds that any increment will be to both parties.

The aspect that is totally unobtainable is the issue of consultancy. It will only amount to heirachical rivalry in superiority of decision to patients' management.

If the public health sector breaks down. Doctors and Pharmacists will survive in the private sector but it will be harsh for other allied field.
A pharmacist will survive in his/her pharceutical shop/company but the bitterness in the sector will result in bizzare laison between docs and other allied fields.
Ofcourse doctors will boom in their private clinics. If they want to use only pathologists in their medical laboratories the medlab sci. will only go jobless. Ofcourse Docs can replace nurses if only they are willing to stoop low and work. Radiologists can fill up the Radiology dept. Physiotherapists may still be needed but can still be replaced afterall physiotherapy is a heck in Nigeria. If docs chose not refer their patients to private laboratory and then make that of private clinics cheap. The health scientist will suffer abjectly in Nigeria.

JOHESU is not an issue. They will come back divided especially when their demands are unmet.


I have never seen a policeman as chief of defence staff. The position automatically belongs to the Army.
I wonder why paramedics chew more than they can bite.
Are u listening to the so called educated fellow!! Dr doing other professions job is quackery!! Do u think Nurse or pharmacist even lab scientists not treat patients? in most private hospitals who do Dr call for surgery if not theater nurses ? so you think others can do Drs job?
HealthRe: UK: Doctor Accidentally Decapitates Premature Baby During Botched Birth by chuksbogus: 2:27pm On May 12, 2018
The common Nurse put a nail on that Dr coffin. This is the type of ego filled Dr that when you advice him on what best to do so far its a nurse he will do the opposite so that it won't look like the nurse instructed him.now He is in for it
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:47pm On May 10, 2018
[quote author=chuksbogus post=67457271][/quote]Read number 8 of you peoples press release ,pasted above /So who have been paid skipping pls
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:45pm On May 10, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
You can't skip a set and leave the others. You guy got arrears and doctors didn't get till tomorrow. You are currently being played your skipped salaries. Why use nurses? Use pharmacists and lab scientists. Like I said every worker earns the same salary on the same level.
No relativity when they enter the same level. Cunning set of people. Why will a pharmacist enter at a higher level than a nurse?

HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:36pm On May 10, 2018
Jahdriel:
Did you read the texts properly? How's NMA greedy! All the noise NMA is primarily because of Nigerians and of course their gains too.

How do explain a nurse who cannot even make a clean incision on an adult becoming consultant in Peadiatric Surgery unit and earning higher salary than regs and senior regs who do majority of surgeries in the unit.
You are not informed .Medicine and Nursing are different professions . A nurse is a consultant in surgical nursing not a consultant in surgery. Its the duty of the Dr to do the surgery and its the duty of the nurse to prepare that patient for surgery and nurse that patient to health after the surgery !! So I don't see why Drs should be fighting over noting. I don't blame them they are judge in their own case
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:28pm On May 10, 2018
dokiOloye:
If you aren't a health worker,then don't delve into what you don't know.
If you are a lawyer in a law firm with many secretaries and paralegals, if they start paying the latter group d same or almost d same salary with d lawyers, do you think there will be harmony in that law firm?
Will d secretaries obey and work harmoniously under some1 they earn d same wages with?
Is it fair to pay ppl whose qualification are far apart d same or nearly same wages?
Many doctors work for 30+ years and retire,they do not attain d title of consultant b/c they don't have d time and strength for the stress of postgraduate training, but d Nigerian nurse wants to sit behind her nursing station and answer consultant wt no further studies or training as if it is a chieftaincy title?
The pharmacist in all the hospitals have reduced themselves to mere dispensers, not a single clinical input to improve the health of the patient but they want to answer consultant and earn d same with doctors.
If you award a nurse d title of consultant,what clinical input will they make on d patient,bearing in mind that medical even consultants refer patients to other consulates for expert management?
It is b/c of ppl like you that they have d liver to make all these spurious demands.
you are wrong for you to be a consultant Nurse you must have a minimum of masters degree in clinical nursing in different specialties and have undergone fellowship with west African council of Nursing which is another 3yrs program. that is what the regulatory body of Nurses put as the criteria for consultancy if the Dr feel theirs is so hectic they should meet their regulatory body and work it out .You can come and tell another profession how to run theirs
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:20pm On May 10, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
There is no more conhess 10 as it has been skipped already. Every worker on level 13 earns the same salary. The difference is in the call and shift allowance.
They skipped level 10 for you People. Nurses enter on 9 pharmacists, lab scientists etc enter 12. Nurses jump from 9 to twelve.


You see how cunning you are. When you where comparing with doctors you used grade level why when you wanted to talk about your demands you used conhess 10. Why didn't you use grade level throughout or conhess throughout. Liars.


Pls say the truth. didnt the Dr say that skipping is criminal ?

why then do they demand for skipping after JOHESU won in court ?

why have they gotten the skipping arrears whereas the rightful owners of skipping are yet to be paid since 2011.

if a nurse is on 13 and Dr on 13 mind you that Dr started work today but the nurse have been working for 12 yrs to get to that 13
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:12pm On May 10, 2018
[quote author=obstead200 post=67456695]nonsense!!!
I no be doctor. Non of my family members are doctors. In fact some of them are johesu members. But I agree fully with the doctors on this. RELATIVITY IS SACROSANCT.

If u wanna be treated like a doctor, then just go and become a doctor!! Make we just stop all this ego and arm twisting. That is what is taking us backwards in this country.[/quote


What other relativity Do you need?? when their entry points are not same ? have not created the relativity ?]
all of us will graduate same day spending
8yrs for Drs
pharmacist 7 some now do 8
Nurses 7
and A Dr will start on 12 they now Skipp to start on 13
pharmacist will start on 9
Nurses on 8

so it will take both pharmacist and nurses between 9 to 12/yrs to get to where a Dr enters employment on so what relative again do you want pls
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:03pm On May 10, 2018
Please don't mind The Drs at all !!Johesu are not asking for pay parity.
First a Dr spend 6 yes in sch, 1yr internship and 1yr youth service.= 8yrs
A pharmacist spend 5yrs some now spend 6yrs ,1yr internship and 1year youth service .=7/8yrs
A nurse spend 5yrs ,1yr internship that was started last yr,1yr youth service =7 yes
now a Dr will be employed on grade level 13
pharmacist on grade level 10
Nurse grade level 9 .
the difference is 1academic year now for a nurse to get to grade level 13 she must have worked for 12 good years and a pharmacist for 9 good years before they get to where a new Dr employed today is. Pls is there any way they can be asking for same salary ?
pls is the relativity not created by the entry point ?
Even a level 13 pharmacist or nurse salary is no where near a Dr on level 13 not minding his many years these other health workers have worked to get to 13 that a Dr just came in and is placed cos Conmess forbd Dr is far different from that of other health workers .Drs are just being greedy and difficult.
Some ones profession played out the prerequisite for one to be a consultant in their profession and Drs are saying No mind you they are bit the regulating body of the is other professionals .
There was a case of skipping of Conhess 10 to 11 and the Drs said its criminal and through their colleague the minister took Johesu to court and Johesu won them and mandated the federal govt to implement skipping and pay the arrears mind you it doesn't concern the Dr that are not in CONHESs salary scale but i n Conmess.They then started asking for skipping and went on strike for what they called criminal and the minster approved skipping for them despite the judgment by NIC doesn't include them and they were paid the arrears but do you all know that till today the people that got the skipping judgment have not be paid a dime as the arrears. There was an agreement that both the CONHESS salary scakebfor Johesu and Conmess for Drs will be reviewed every 4yrs .in 2014 Drs Conmess salary scale was increased but till today CONHESS have not being reviewed and this is what JOHESU IS ASKING NOT PAY PARITY . Because pay parity is impossible since they all have different entry points in civil service do there is no way their salary can be same.
sorry for some typos
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 10:57pm On May 10, 2018
stonemasonn:
Wow! You sure that’s what they’re asking?
Please don't mind him at all!!! that is not what is being asked by Johesu

First a Dr spend 6 yes in sch, 1yr internship and 1yr youth service.= 8yrs
A pharmacist spend 5yrs some now spend 6yrs ,1yr internship and 1year youth service .=7/8yrs

A nurse spend 5yrs ,1yr internship that was started last yr,1yr youth service =7 yes


now a Dr will be employed on grade level 13
pharmacist on grade level 10
Nurse grade level 9 .

the difference is 1academic year now for a nurse to get to grade level 13 she must have worked for 12 good years and a pharmacist for 9 good years before they get to where a new Dr employed today is. Pls is there any way they can be asking for same salary ?

pls is the relativity not created by the entry point ?

Even a level 13 pharmacist or nurse salary is no where near a Dr on level 13 not minding his many years these other health workers have worked to get to 13 that a Dr just came in and is placed cos Conmess forbd Dr is far different from that of other health workers .Drs are just being greedy and difficult.

Some ones profession played out the prerequisite for one to be a consultant in their profession and Drs are saying No mind you they are bit the regulating body of the is other professionals .

There was a case of skipping of Conhess 10 to 11 and the Drs said its criminal and through their colleague the minister took Johesu to court and Johesu won them and mandated the federal govt to implement skipping and pay the arrears mind you it doesn't concern the Dr that are not in CONHESs salary scale but i n Conmess.They then started asking for skipping and went on strike for what they called criminal and the minster approved skipping for them despite the judgment by NIC doesn't include them and they were paid the arrears but do you all know that till today the people that got the skipping judgment have not be paid a dime as the arrears. There was an agreement that both the CONHESS salary scakebfor Johesu and Conmess for Drs will be reviewed every 4yrs .in 2014 Drs Conmess salary scale was increased but till today CONHESS have not being reviewed and this is what JOHESU IS ASKING NOT PAY PARITY . Because pay parity is impossible since they all have different entry points in civil service do there is no way their salary can be same.

sorry for some typos
CrimeRe: Lady Lawyer Stabs Husband To Death In Lagos, Then Tries Killing Herself by chuksbogus: 2:09pm On May 03, 2018
biacan:
Something must have led her to commit this dreadful act..... maybe he cheated who knows.....huh
Do you know how to read at all ? it was written there that there is an issue of cheating from the woman's side !!!

if not that I said I will no longer curse I would have told you the truth which is ...That his your mother ........your father
PoliticsRe: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala's Revelation About Donald Duke & Omoyele Sowore In Her Book by chuksbogus: 9:34pm On Apr 22, 2018
There is noting bad in what Duke did.If you read till the end you will notice that he praised Duke
HealthRe: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by chuksbogus: 4:26pm On Apr 22, 2018
Revolva:
my friend that is a medical doctor just left last month to u.k
you didn't bid him farewell ??
HealthRe: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by chuksbogus: 1:00pm On Apr 22, 2018
If you decide to be realistic the only health workers that are being looked down in Nigeria and when they go abroad they become hot cakes are the Nurses!!! Yes I said the NURSES.Nurses are tagged money making machine abroad and they are the professionals that are leaving this country in thousand every year not Even doctors. I know some sentimental Dr will come out to argue this but deep within them they know it true.
I have said to my self the closest people in health care industries are the Dr and the RN .they are the people that works hand in hand,they are always together everyday and they are the profession in health that intermarry most.In the states the Dr and RN are very close,they respect each other and value the knowledge and potentials in them.That's why you can see a advanced practice nurses ,consultant nurses ,that does some of the functions of a Dr. But here in Nigeria the reverse is the case. I have seen a final year medical student that passed his finals with the help of a nurse in the ward and most of them during House job have been put through some procedure by a nurse though some will try to e proud and pretend to knew only to keep messing up until a nurse comes to his aid.
On the nurse side too ,they have this mentality that Dr are looking down on them hence they are now always on edge when ever they are dealing with drs. Ready to attack but by and large there are still good Dr and good Nurse out there. I think this two professionals should come together to and resolve their differences and unite. Then they can face the govt and get what ever they want.


most of the Dr Nurse and other health care professionals that are rushing to leave this country on getting there they will adapt to the culture of respecting each other cus there they will meet Consultant nurses,advance practice nurses and will address them as such.
They will also meet pharmacist who will refuse to give patient drugs cus the Dr prescription is wrong. But here in Nigeria its not same .Let's come together and build our health system so that medical tourism will stop
HealthRe: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by chuksbogus: 12:02pm On Apr 22, 2018
If you decide to be realistic the only health workers that are being looked down in Nigeria and when they go abroad they become hot cakes are the Nurses!!! Yes I said the NURSES.Nurses are tagged money making machine abroad and they are the professionals that are leaving this country in thousand every year not Even doctors. I know some sentimental Dr will come out to argue this but deep within them they know it true.

I have said to my self the closest people in health care industries are the Dr and the RN .they are the people that works hand in hand,they are always together everyday and they are the profession in health that intermarry most.In the states the Dr and RN are very close,they respect each other and value the knowledge and potentials in them.That's why you can see a advanced practice nurses ,consultant nurses ,that does some of the functions of a Dr. But here in Nigeria the reverse is the case. I have seen a final year medical student that passed his finals with the help of a nurse in the ward and most of them during House job have been put through some procedure by a nurse though some will try to e proud and pretend to knew only to keep messing up until a nurse comes to his aid.

On the nurse side too ,they have this mentality that Dr are looking down on them hence they are now always on edge when ever they are dealing with drs. Ready to attack but by and large there are still good Dr and good Nurse out there. I think this two professionals should come together to and resolve their differences and unite. Then they can face the govt and get what ever they want.
HealthRe: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by chuksbogus: 12:17pm On Apr 21, 2018
THE REASON WE MUST ALL STAY FOCUS ON THIS JOHESU STRIKE AND IGNORE EVERY DISTRACTION FROM THE DOCTORS.
GOOD DAY TO ALL MY COLLEAGUE IN THE STRUGGLE TO LIBERATE HEALTH SECTOR FROM THE HANDS OF A GROUP THAT SEE THEMSELVES AS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA.
I WANT TO FIRST BRING TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE HEALTH WORKERS SALARY :
IN THE YEAR 2009 WHEN THE LATE MUSA YARADUA WAS THE THEN PRESIDENT OF NIG. THE DOCTORS CLAMORED FOR INCREMENT IN THEIR SALARIES AND THE MINISTER OF DOCTORS RELATE SAME TO THE PRESIDENT, BUT THE PRESIDENT REFUSED TO INCREASED THEIR SALARY AND SAID THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE IN THE HEALTH SECTOR THAT INSTEAD HE WILL INCREASE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE HEALTH SECTOR, TO THIS EFFECT A COMMITTEE WAS SET UP AND ALL THE UNION WAS ABLY REPRESENTED.
IN THE LAST QUARTER OF 2009 THE SALARY SCALE WAS THEN MOVED TO CONHESS (FORMALLY CONTISS) AND WAS APPROVED BY THE PRESIDENT AND IMPLEMENTED IN JANUARY 2010.
NOTE THAT THE COMMITTEE AGREED THAT 4 YEARS LATER THE CONHESS SALARY SCALE WILL BE ADJUSTED AGAIN(INCREASED)AND NOTE THAT BOTH THE DOCTORS AND OTHER HEALTH WORKERS WAS ON CONHESS AND THERE WAS HARMONY IN THE HEALTH SECTOR AND NO STRIKE FROM THAT 2010 TO 2013.
NOW IN 2014 WHEN THE SALARY WAS SUPPOSE TO BE REVIEWED (ANOTHER PRESIDENT NOW IN POWER) THE DOCTORS THEN WENT BEHIND WITH THE HELP OF THE MINISTER OF DOCTORS (PROF OYEBUCHI CHUKWU) TO MOVE OUT OF CONHESS AND HAVE THEIR OWN SALARY SCALE WHICH IS NOW CONMESS AND FAR ROBUST THAN CONHESS, IT WAS APPROVED AND IMPLEMENTED FOR THEM SHARPLY.
THE NEW CONHESS WAS ALSO CALCULATED BY SALARIES INCOMES AND WAGES COMMISSION BUT WAS NEVER APPROVED TILL DATE.
THE STRUGGLE THEN STARTED BY JOHESU CLAMORING FOR GOVT TO DO THE NEEDFUL AS DONE FOR NMA, THIS ALSO RESULTED TO SERIES OF STRIKE BUT THE MINISTER OF DOCTORS AND THE THEN PRESIDENT DIDN'T IMPLEMENT IT.
IN 2016 AND 2017 RESPECTIVELY THE DOCTORS SALARIES WAS INCREASED AND THEY CALL IT RELATIVITY, MIND YOU THEY FOUGHT AGAINST SKIPPING A CONHESS LEVEL AND SAID IT WAS CRIMINAL AND ILLEGAL TO SKIP A LEVEL. (JOHESU WON THE CASE IN COURT AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVT), THE DOCTORS LATTER ASKED FOR THE SKIPPING AND IT WAS APPROVED FOR THEM AND THEY WERE PAID WHY THE RIGHTFUL OWNER HAVE STILL NOT BEEN PAID THE ARREARS SINCE 2010.
AS WE SPEAK A HOUSE OFFICER THAT IS JUST LEAVING SCHOOL IS PLACE ON COMESS 1 WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO CONHESS 12 ( THAT IS FOR A NURSE THAT HAVE SPENT MORE THAN 15YEARS IN SERVICE), WHILE A REGISTRAR EARN FAR MORE THAN A CHIEF NURSING OFFICER, THEY EARN SAME SALARY WITH ADNS (I KNOW OF A NURSE WHO HAVE FEW YEARS TO RETIREMENT AND THE SON THAT WAS JUST EMPLOYED AS A REGISTRAR IN THE SAME INSTITUTION EARN FAR MORE THAN HER( REMEMBER SHE HAS PUT IN MORE THAN 30YEARS OF ACTIVE SERVICE).
AND THE LEAST CONSULTANT EARN #600,000 AND ABOVE MONTHLY.
THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN THIS DISPARITY BETWEEN THEIR SALARY AND THAT OF OTHER HEALTH WORKERS.
THAT IS WHY YOU ARE SEEING THEM WRITTING DIFFERENT PROTEST LETTER TO DISTRACT JOHESU MEMBERS AND TO ALSO THREATEN THE MINISTER OF DOCTORS AND THE PRESIDENT NOT TO HONOR JOHESU DEMANDS.
NOTE THAT THEY ARE GREEDY, SELF-CENTERED, SELFISH, EGOCENTRIC, PROUD AND WICKED.
AND WE MUST REMAIN FOCUS SO AS TO ACHIEVE OUR GOAL, IGNORE THEM AND DON'T LET THEM INSTILL FEAR INTO US BY THEIR VARIOUS CIRCULAR OF NO WORK NO PAY...
ASUU WENT ON STRIKE FOR 3 MONTHS THE NO WORK NO PAY CIRCULAR WAS NOT USE ON THEM,
NASSU WENT ON STRIKE FOR 6 GOOD MONTHS AND THE NO WORK NO PAY WAS NOT USE ON THEM AND WE ALL HAVE THE SAME MINISTER OF LABOUR AND EMPLOYMENT (DR CHRIS NGIGE WHO HAPPENS TO BE A MEDICAL DOCTOR), SO WHY ON EARTH ARE THEY NOW MENTIONING NO WORK NO PAY FOR JOHESU MEMBERS
THIS IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY WANT TO INSTILL FEAR INTO YOU,
THIS IS THE MORE REASON WE ALL MUST STAY FOCUS AND IGNORE THEIR EMPTY THREAT.
I WANT YOU ALL TO NOTE THAT WHAT EVER MAKE THE NEW MINIMUM WAGE THAT IS GOING TO BE APPROVED COME THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR 2018 MEET THIS PRESENT SALARY WE ARE RECEIVING, IT MEANS WE HAVE SHOT OURSELVES ON THE FOOT;
BECAUSE MINIMUM WAGE IS USUALLY CAL
HealthRe: JOHESU Strike Latest by chuksbogus: 12:14pm On Apr 21, 2018
I don't blame them, they are judge in their own case!! Minister for health Dr, minster for labour Dr , house committee on health D!!! meddling in other people affair .There mates abroad are braking boundaries,getting new innovations and they are here misbehaving
PoliticsRe: Dino Melaye Accuses Yahaya Bello Of Importing Military Items. See Photos by chuksbogus: 9:30pm On Mar 08, 2018
Abbeyme:
I just do not fancy this Dino Melaye of a guy.

He doesn't have the decorum of an elder. Except he is not yet an elder.
What are you even talking !!!just see how sentiment has ripped you apart !! You left what Dino uncovered which is a heinous crime and those things will be used on people of kogi rather you are talking about whether he is an elder or you fancying him or not.The issue is that Yhaya bello was caught red handed perpetuating evil. Talk about that one

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