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Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive / JOHESU Set To Embark On Indefinite Strike / Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! (2) (3) (4)
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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Afrocentric: 10:57pm On May 10, 2018 |
SLYX:you are right. The idiots almost killed me at LUTH 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 10:57pm On May 10, 2018 |
stonemasonn: Please don't mind him at all!!! that is not what is being asked by Johesu First a Dr spend 6 yes in sch, 1yr internship and 1yr youth service.= 8yrs A pharmacist spend 5yrs some now spend 6yrs ,1yr internship and 1year youth service .=7/8yrs A nurse spend 5yrs ,1yr internship that was started last yr,1yr youth service =7 yes now a Dr will be employed on grade level 13 pharmacist on grade level 10 Nurse grade level 9 . the difference is 1academic year now for a nurse to get to grade level 13 she must have worked for 12 good years and a pharmacist for 9 good years before they get to where a new Dr employed today is. Pls is there any way they can be asking for same salary ? pls is the relativity not created by the entry point ? Even a level 13 pharmacist or nurse salary is no where near a Dr on level 13 not minding his many years these other health workers have worked to get to 13 that a Dr just came in and is placed cos Conmess forbd Dr is far different from that of other health workers .Drs are just being greedy and difficult. Some ones profession played out the prerequisite for one to be a consultant in their profession and Drs are saying No mind you they are bit the regulating body of the is other professionals . There was a case of skipping of Conhess 10 to 11 and the Drs said its criminal and through their colleague the minister took Johesu to court and Johesu won them and mandated the federal govt to implement skipping and pay the arrears mind you it doesn't concern the Dr that are not in CONHESs salary scale but i n Conmess.They then started asking for skipping and went on strike for what they called criminal and the minster approved skipping for them despite the judgment by NIC doesn't include them and they were paid the arrears but do you all know that till today the people that got the skipping judgment have not be paid a dime as the arrears. There was an agreement that both the CONHESS salary scakebfor Johesu and Conmess for Drs will be reviewed every 4yrs .in 2014 Drs Conmess salary scale was increased but till today CONHESS have not being reviewed and this is what JOHESU IS ASKING NOT PAY PARITY . Because pay parity is impossible since they all have different entry points in civil service do there is no way their salary can be same. sorry for some typos 17 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by eleojo23: 10:57pm On May 10, 2018 |
Mofpearl: Nurse practitioners in Nigeria? That is a fight for another day 4 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Majorwills: 10:57pm On May 10, 2018 |
Shame on you |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by xelly: 10:57pm On May 10, 2018 |
Elueme: I must say that foolishness runs in Nigeria. Is there any profession that doesn't face academic battle? You think as a medical doctor here in Nigeria you are qualified? The thing is simple, look into your affairs and not into another man's matter. What's your business with what other staff are paid? What's your productivity in the hospital setting? Is just that other professional bodies in the hospital let themselves down. They should all go on strike, no member of any of the professionals should accept any package let's see how it pans out. To JOHESU, make it known to your members that if any of them is seen close to a hospital, such person's license will be seized for a minimum of 3 years and penalty of N2m before it is restored. What do they mean by if you want to be a medical Doctor you should go back to school? Don't they know the road to school to study pharmacy or Medlab etc Is medicine the only course open for study in the universities? I must tell you that stuff like this happen because Nigeria is not a serious country. For assuming this stand, if I have my way, I will cut down salary scale for everyone in the Hospital. It seems you guys are just after money. As a Doctor, I need anyone to assure me that he is perfect in health practice. How good are you in diagnosis let alone surgeries. No one should fool anyone to accept that to be well paid, you must study medicine. It is a stupid assumption, it is foolishness to the highest level. I rest my case but if you are a Doctor and you have this mindset that to be well paid, you have to be a Doctor, you should go for mental examination or you are telling the world that you know the truth but can't say it. I am beginning to see you guys as people who are greedy and selfish. Why do you want to earn highest salary when one can't comfortably come to Nigeria Hospitals and be well taken care of? Where is Nigeria's president today? What are your new findings in health? To be sincere, Doctors aren't suppose to earn more than Pharmacists. 19 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Hairyrapunzel: 10:58pm On May 10, 2018 |
HaneefahRN: It does Mr man. There is no more relativity when that happens. It means everyone will earn the same thing. No difference in salary. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by norahs: 10:59pm On May 10, 2018 |
MrBigiman: Get behind me too |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 10:59pm On May 10, 2018 |
Royle2014: Codiene is banned, go and a smoke cow dung for now and free me. I have no business with Johesu by the grace of the Almighty God. And God will not allow me work in any of those teaching hospitals IJN. I earn 3 times more than the nurse where I am, and 2 times more than the pharmacist. Affliction will not drag me to the shithole called Government hospital. This I pray in Gods name and power. Amen! 3 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 11:00pm On May 10, 2018 |
norahs: No beef jare. God help everyman. Take no word of mine to heart. I just dey catch fun. 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by DEXTROVERT: 11:00pm On May 10, 2018 |
SLYX: Amen 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by optm(m): 11:01pm On May 10, 2018 |
MrBigiman:a pt goes to d hospital to get health care nd nt to see d med doctor. if it were just to c d med dr , den his/her visit shld end in the consulting room nd needless sending dt pt to d laboratory fr tests or pharmacy fr drugs. d nigerian med drs hv labored past yrs to stifle growth of oda health care professions fr selfish reasons nd not cos dey hv d interest of pts at heart and not recognizing health care as multidisciplinary in line with global best practices. being a med dr is not al dts needed to render health care to pt's hence d nid for oda professionals to serve d pt nt d med drs. Ego is d problem of d average nigerian med dr. U re a med dr to render ur services to pts in line with ur trainin. allow odas do their part in line with their training without interference. i believe with tym we wld get tinx right in dis country nd den u ll realize dt u re in d hospital to wrk as oda health care professionals nd nt to lord over it 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Quelme: 11:02pm On May 10, 2018 |
dechriscool:copy and paste.... Biggest fool ever liveth..... 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:03pm On May 10, 2018 |
Please don't mind The Drs at all !!Johesu are not asking for pay parity. First a Dr spend 6 yes in sch, 1yr internship and 1yr youth service.= 8yrs A pharmacist spend 5yrs some now spend 6yrs ,1yr internship and 1year youth service .=7/8yrs A nurse spend 5yrs ,1yr internship that was started last yr,1yr youth service =7 yes now a Dr will be employed on grade level 13 pharmacist on grade level 10 Nurse grade level 9 . the difference is 1academic year now for a nurse to get to grade level 13 she must have worked for 12 good years and a pharmacist for 9 good years before they get to where a new Dr employed today is. Pls is there any way they can be asking for same salary ? pls is the relativity not created by the entry point ? Even a level 13 pharmacist or nurse salary is no where near a Dr on level 13 not minding his many years these other health workers have worked to get to 13 that a Dr just came in and is placed cos Conmess forbd Dr is far different from that of other health workers .Drs are just being greedy and difficult. Some ones profession played out the prerequisite for one to be a consultant in their profession and Drs are saying No mind you they are bit the regulating body of the is other professionals . There was a case of skipping of Conhess 10 to 11 and the Drs said its criminal and through their colleague the minister took Johesu to court and Johesu won them and mandated the federal govt to implement skipping and pay the arrears mind you it doesn't concern the Dr that are not in CONHESs salary scale but i n Conmess.They then started asking for skipping and went on strike for what they called criminal and the minster approved skipping for them despite the judgment by NIC doesn't include them and they were paid the arrears but do you all know that till today the people that got the skipping judgment have not be paid a dime as the arrears. There was an agreement that both the CONHESS salary scakebfor Johesu and Conmess for Drs will be reviewed every 4yrs .in 2014 Drs Conmess salary scale was increased but till today CONHESS have not being reviewed and this is what JOHESU IS ASKING NOT PAY PARITY . Because pay parity is impossible since they all have different entry points in civil service do there is no way their salary can be same. sorry for some typos 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by obstead200(m): 11:04pm On May 10, 2018 |
obi4eze:nonsense!!! I no be doctor. Non of my family members are doctors. In fact some of them are johesu members. But I agree fully with the doctors on this. RELATIVITY IS SACROSANCT. If u wanna be treated like a doctor, then just go and become a doctor!! Make we just stop all this ego and arm twisting. That is what is taking us backwards in this country. Aa a chartered accountant and a masters degree holder with over a decade professional experience, I will find it very annoying if someone who has a mere B.sc accounting plus few years experience is placed on the same level and salary scale as myself in an office. The same situation applies here 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Mofpearl: 11:05pm On May 10, 2018 |
eleojo23: I am guessing that's a no. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Franklyly: 11:06pm On May 10, 2018 |
obstead200: Pls kindly read the post above you and then determine the group doing arm twisting 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by eleojo23: 11:07pm On May 10, 2018 |
Mofpearl:Yup... We are still very backward... Can't you see the kind of thing we are still fighting over in this century? 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Afrocentric: 11:10pm On May 10, 2018 |
MrBigiman:so JAMB is now all and all? Don't forget that some doctors today cheated to pass JAMB. Some, there parents bribed for them to scale through. Mugu 4 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Hairyrapunzel: 11:11pm On May 10, 2018 |
chuksbogus:There is no more conhess 10 as it has been skipped already. Every worker on level 13 earns the same salary. The difference is in the call and shift allowance. They skipped level 10 for you People. Nurses enter on 9 pharmacists, lab scientists etc enter 12. Nurses jump from 9 to twelve. You see how cunning you are. When you where comparing with doctors you used grade level why when you wanted to talk about your demands you used conhess 10. Why didn't you use grade level throughout or conhess throughout. Liars. 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:12pm On May 10, 2018 |
[quote author=obstead200 post=67456695]nonsense!!! I no be doctor. Non of my family members are doctors. In fact some of them are johesu members. But I agree fully with the doctors on this. RELATIVITY IS SACROSANCT. If u wanna be treated like a doctor, then just go and become a doctor!! Make we just stop all this ego and arm twisting. That is what is taking us backwards in this country.[/quote What other relativity Do you need?? when their entry points are not same ? have not created the relativity ?] all of us will graduate same day spending 8yrs for Drs pharmacist 7 some now do 8 Nurses 7 and A Dr will start on 12 they now Skipp to start on 13 pharmacist will start on 9 Nurses on 8 so it will take both pharmacist and nurses between 9 to 12/yrs to get to where a Dr enters employment on so what relative again do you want pls |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by manakocha(m): 11:13pm On May 10, 2018 |
JOHESU demands equity not equality and thank God we all belong to the same world where we can vividly differentiate EQUITY from EQUALITY. Mind you; this innocent country (Nigeria) is ranked 187 of 190 countries of the world on the WHO health status. Only medical Drs serves FMOH as minister in Nigeria. Who queries them despite such jumbo pay or Isn't that worth addressing than this undue, unethical, often unlawful and desasterous threats and war of attrition on the personalities and embodiment of respected innocent professional colleagues? We have lawyers and other respected professionals too and indeed NO area of discipline is worth underrating for you can't be the judge in your law court. 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by maestroferddi: 11:13pm On May 10, 2018 |
CSTR1003:Well something has to be said about female nurses, doctors and promiscuity... If you are a nursing student or indeed a practising nurse and you choose to cheapen yourself so much as to habitually warm the beds of randy, irresponsible and obliging doctors, you should take whatever you get... |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Afrocentric: 11:14pm On May 10, 2018 |
obinto:so, now will the Government HOSPITALS function now that JOHESU are on STRIKE? The answer is NO 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by skabber2: 11:15pm On May 10, 2018 |
Shame on NMA.....i spit on you! 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by obstead200(m): 11:16pm On May 10, 2018 |
dechriscool:Don't mind all those confused Nigerians. If u go to a government hospital and meet a consultant, u will understand the importance of doctors. All other health professionals may tel u ur ailment from their limited knowledge. But when u hear from the doctor, u Wil know the difference. They do not usually need checks and test to narrow down their diagnosis. Medical history and symptoms is enough. The tests are just for confirmation. It takes years of training to have such wide and thorough knowledge. Abeg they shud stop envying doctors. RELATIVITY should remain SACROSANCT. I say NO to pay parity. But doctors shud take it easy Sha. Their money don dey too much sef. No be only Dem dey naija ooo. That being said, buhari, Oya implement a strict no work no pay for that johesu idiots 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by dokiOloye(m): 11:17pm On May 10, 2018 |
maestroferddi:If you aren't a health worker,then don't delve into what you don't know. If you are a lawyer in a law firm with many secretaries and paralegals, if they start paying the latter group d same or almost d same salary with d lawyers, do you think there will be harmony in that law firm? Will d secretaries obey and work harmoniously under some1 they earn d same wages with? Is it fair to pay ppl whose qualification are far apart d same or nearly same wages? Many doctors work for 30+ years and retire,they do not attain d title of consultant b/c they don't have d time and strength for the stress of postgraduate training, but d Nigerian nurse wants to sit behind her nursing station and answer consultant wt no further studies or training as if it is a chieftaincy title? The pharmacist in all the hospitals have reduced themselves to mere dispensers, not a single clinical input to improve the health of the patient but they want to answer consultant and earn d same with doctors. If you award a nurse d title of consultant,what clinical input will they make on d patient,bearing in mind that even medical consultants refer patients to other consultants for expert management? It is b/c of ppl like you that they have d liver to make all these spurious demands. 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Brightolanton(m): 11:18pm On May 10, 2018 |
Elueme: Reasonable talk. I don't know why people find it difficult to accept and respect hierarchy. All health workers are very vital but in every aspect of life there are strata. If JOHESU are so obsessed with heading health sector why not go back to study medicine. It is just jealousy a la envy driving them crazy, bearing in mind that a significant percentage wanted medicine but were offered paramedicals when they didn't get the required cut off/academic requirements. Their training differs and so is the rigor they go thro. 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:20pm On May 10, 2018 |
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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by lanxebony(m): 11:23pm On May 10, 2018 |
Elueme: you are not seeing the light but you've been eluded with ego.. drs cannot dominate the health sector and moreover it's not every body choice to be a dr so y the hullabaloo about your MBBs. a nurse uses his/her 5 credit to study nursing so do u. a nurse spent 5yrs with internship =6, u use 6yrs with housemanship =7. so... you claim with all your academic battering ,sorry not only u has those awards. ask a nurse how many postgraduate course she has attended you'll marvel. some nurses are fellows so.dont be stupid and be humble . why do u cry when others raise the brow to be awarded consultant it's called health sector for a reason not drs sector. keep.killing your pts using quakes(auxiliaries) in your private hospitals and you think you're helping the system. an average dr in this country is a selfish dr. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by chuksbogus: 11:28pm On May 10, 2018 |
dokiOloye: you are wrong for you to be a consultant Nurse you must have a minimum of masters degree in clinical nursing in different specialties and have undergone fellowship with west African council of Nursing which is another 3yrs program. that is what the regulatory body of Nurses put as the criteria for consultancy if the Dr feel theirs is so hectic they should meet their regulatory body and work it out .You can come and tell another profession how to run theirs 3 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Jahdriel(f): 11:30pm On May 10, 2018 |
obi4eze: Did you read the texts properly? How's NMA greedy! All the noise NMA is primarily because of Nigerians and of course their gains too. How do explain a nurse who cannot even make a clean incision on an adult becoming consultant in Peadiatric Surgery unit and earning higher salary than regs and senior regs who do majority of surgeries in the unit. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 11:30pm On May 10, 2018 |
Afrocentric: And they bribed their way thru MBs and clinicals and Vivas with the OSces too. Shift |
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