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DeSepiero:
ColdHardTruth,

This sort of thread is better created in the Islam section. What do you think?

So I can be banned for years?

sekundosekundo:
Does it mean that you don't know the meaning of adultery?.

ColdHardTruth:
Okay, I'll indulge you,
Having sex outside marriage while married
No be so?

Sekundo, your questions don finish?

Good one

annunaki2:
I would rather be an atheist than a Satan worshipper(muslim).

Wow!

abdulwastecx:
Religion is a stupid concept all together., the more one learn and know about the world the less need for religion.
Religion must be eradicated from the mind of people in third world nation in other to have any advancement

Agreed

sekundosekundo:
Does it mean that you don't know the meaning of adultery?.

Okay, I'll indulge you,

Having sex outside marriage while married

No be so?

sekundosekundo:
What is adultery?.

Which kain Waec question you dey ask me now?

sekundosekundo:
Are you an atheist?.

Yes

sekundosekundo:
What of sin

There's no such thing as "sin" to an atheist

sekundosekundo:
god or God?

Makes no difference to an atheist

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My journey was very lonely and very intimate. The whole deconversion process was shocking to me, however I do not regret anything of it. I now realize that I have a lot of difficulties, such as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and I have developed certain phobias and paranoia that are the fruits of the religious indoctrination I had and how I faced it. Today I live in a new phase of life. After many years, I finally feel happy and motivated. The peace and security that I feel today are priceless. “

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From all the way across the globe in Paraná, Brazil, I was born into a Presbyterian home. My father is a pastor and my mother also studied in a seminary. Since an early age, I’ve asked some tough questions about faith and the doctrines that I heard in the church, but since people gave me no answer that satisfied me, I ended up searching for answers on my own.

I remember myself asking my mother about the origin of god when I was only six years old. At age 10, I wondered about predestination, about the lack of forgiveness for blasphemy against the holy spirit, and about whether Christianity really was the true religion.

After experiencing neo-Pentecostalism when I was 15 years old, I decided to enter a seminary. When I turned 17, I left home and was received at the same seminary where my parents had studied. I sought answers for my questions. I had already rejected the neo-Pentecostal experiences I had had, and suddenly I found myself in love with Reformed theology. It seemed so strong and well prepared and even gave me some good answers.

However, the more I learned about the history of the church and about religion, the more I began to realize that everything was wrong, that it was all just a human endeavor and and without something divine or special.

Finally I graduated from seminary and served the church in its publishing house working with educational material for churches and then with church missions. During this period I had several ethical and moral crises. The moral and Christian / biblical ethics were very confusing and contradictory to me. All this mixed with a fanatical Calvinism left me extremely confused. Finally, I realized I could not continue in the church as a pastor and decided that I would live my life outside the church until I had found the answers I was seeking. It was not that difficult, except for the fact that a degree in theology means nothing for jobs.

Time passed and I was, step by step, rejecting the biblical canon, the inspiration of many books, I was disagreeing with the way that the authors of the New Testament interpreted the prophecies of the Old Testament, and I was suspicious of the real existence of Jesus, etc. One day I stopped to think about what I really believed. To my surprise I realized that I did not believe in anything that could characterize me as a Christian, nothing. It was a surprise. I’ve always been seen as skeptical and as liberal for my friends, but I never thought of myself as anything but Christian. No matter how liberal I went, I enjoyed being a Christian and I thought I was following the purest form of Christianity.

The moment I realized I was not a Christian, I felt confused: What I was then?

I knew what agnosticism and atheism were, but was not sure if I was some of both. After thinking and studying, I realized that I was agnostic, but I soon realized that because of evidence and lack of evidence I could call myself an atheist without a doubt. It was a shocking moment for me as thinking of myself as an atheist was something scary!

After two months keeping secret about my disbelief I found the Clergy Project. After receiving support for coming out, I had the courage to tell my wife that I did not believe in god at all. This was a shock to her and a confusing time for both of us. Today she respects my intellectual conclusions but keeps going to church a occasionally.

Since I came out the closet, I’m not worried at hiding who I really am and what I truly believe. But I also have not announced to all the people I know about who I am. That’s irrelevant to me, I am who I am and I do not need to advertise or hide that. However I realized that writing and being in touch with other people who think like me is very important, so I started to write in my blog about my ideas and to share with others a bit of who I am and about my history. Today a few friends and family members visit my blog and read my writings.

The prophet of Islam and the Quran

Muhammad was no different than barbaric thugs who slaughtered, robbed and raped women, there are many proofs in the Sunnah, I invite you to do your homework before accusing me of lying for the sole purpose of damaging the image of the prophet of Islam. He was a sex maniac, and went around all the laws he has enacted to appease his voracious desire. He has torn humanity and imprisoned the nation with backward and outdated Bedouin laws. He accomplished no miracle that could prove his prophecy; all he had was a book showing strong similarities with the poetry of his contemporaries, full of scientific errors and philosophical dilemmas.

Conclusion: I probably need to write a whole book to talk thoroughly and sufficiently about the reasons that led me to renounce Islam as a religion, but these few items listed are the most important things that intrigued me and pushed me to rethink the essence this hollow faith which, just like any other religion, a mythical ideology put at the service of politics

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Islam and the human creativity

All forms of artistic expressions are banned in Islam: music, singing, dancing, painting, sculpture, acting, but also literature, poetry, philosophy and the use of logic! If you find this too hard to believe, I invite you to refer to the reliable Islamic sources as well as Muhammad’s quotes to make sure I do not exaggerate and am only stating the strict truth.

Islam and Science

Islam is rich in allegories, starting with the myth of the Oracle (word of God communicated to Muhammad via the angel Gabriel), all the way through the so called Night Journey and Ascension ( Al-Isra’a & Al-Me’eraj) when Muhammad supposedly ascended into heaven on the back of a fantastic animal called "Burâaq" flying at the speed of light, to finish off with the dazzling tales of miracles that no one has witnessed and no civilization has enrolled in its historical archives nor mentioned facts that could back up these allegations.

Islam is therefore based on blind faith that grows and takes over people’s minds where there is irrationality and ignorance. If this ideology had assets of persuasion by appeal to reason and logic and has tackled every aspect of the human life as we ex-Muslims have been told ever since we can remember, why would it resort to incredible wacky stories to prove its accuracy and support its ideas? Isn’t that worthy of liars and impostors? Do not forget the glaring contradictions between the sacred texts and the basic scientific truths, such as the fact that the earth is fixed and that the sky is raised above the ground and held without pillars, and that meteoroids were made for the purpose of stoning demons who spy on humans from up above.

The Scientific Miracles in the Quran

We ex-Muslims all know the absurdity, the forgery and the swindling of the sheikhs who claim the existence of scientific miracles in the Quran, and I find it legitimate to ask why these people fabricate one colossal lie after another around religion. The answer is simple: only a web of lies is able to perpetuate another lie. Islam could not hold for long in front of science that reveals its myths and its undeniable weaknesses one after another, such as the assertion that the earth is flat and that two people breastfed by the same woman become biological brothers. These people protect Islam and prevent it from wearing off and perishing by desperately trying to reconcile it with science using deception and distortion. If Islam were a divine religion and a message sent from the creator of the universe, would it be the laughingstock of the scientific sphere and a target of endless criticism?

The Islamic God

He is a primitive, Bedouin and anthropomorphic God who draws his characters from the human world and experiences feelings of anger, revenge, resentment, superiority, etc. The image of God that has been depicted in the Islamic sacred texts pretty much reflect the human civilizations, like the majestic throne carried by the angels, on which he slumped when he finished the process of creation, which brings to mind the ritual of the Honga-Bonga perform with their head of their tribe. Worse still, some human actions, such as homosexual sex (in which even the Honga-Bonga do not meddle), can make this magnificent throne shake. Here is a transcendent hadith that caught my attention: "Any work done by the son of Adam concerns only himself, except fasting which is mine and I give its reward."

The question that torments me is this: What pleasure the Almighty God may find in all these poor people worshipping him? What good would it do him?

Is Islam a religion of tolerance?

Islam is an authoritarian religion that does not respect the individuals’ freedom of choice, which is easily noticeable from its barbaric verdicts such as stoning the adulterous, pushing the homosexuals off a cliff and killing the apostates for daring to express a different viewpoint. Then there is the plight of other religions’ followers in the Muslim State. Islam urges its followers to fight the infidels until they convert or agree to pay a tax known as "Jizya" per capita in total submission.The sacred texts in Islam also encourage blatant war and conquest of new territories to spread the religion of Muhammad, instead of using peaceful means to convey the message, relying only on a rational argumentative scheme; something that Islam, like any other religion for that matter, evidently lacks. It is simply a terrible insult to human values and a proof of unprecedented dementia

Is Islam a religion of human brotherhood?

I was flabbergasted when I learnt the commandments of Islam regarding the alliance and disavowal and the aberrant division of the world into believers and unbelievers, with all the outrageous provisions this implies for the "Dhimmis" and the” Jizya "!

Is Islam a religion of equality?

Islam presented the Quraysh tribe as “the chosen tribe” to rule over the human race. Muhammad did not grant a single political responsibility to a person that was not from his tribe. Islam has legitimized slavery, reinforced the gap between social classes and allowed stealing from the infidels, taking women in captivity (Sabaya) during wars and sexual abuse of women slaves (Ima’a). It has severely damaged the marital relationship with the laws of dowry (Mahr) and divorce, thus transforming the institution of marriage into a common transaction.

Is Islam a religion of social justice?

Some of the most outrageous principles Islam has legislated are looting and robbery as well as the exploitation of the people oppressed by the taxation system of Al-Jizya. It acknowledged the social inequality by imposing the Zakat, in accordance with the following saying: “a grateful rich man is better than a patient poor man”.

Has Islam been fair to women?
A woman in Islam has less reason and faith. She interrupts the prayer, just like donkeys and black dogs and is considered to be impure during menstruation. She is only entitled to half the inheritance of a man and her testimony in the court of justice also counts for half of that of a man. Islam put her under the guardianship of her husband and predicated the approval of God on obeying her husband. A man also has the right to correct his wife by beating her and / or deserting the marital bed if she refuses to submit to his will. She has no choice when it comes to satisfying his sexual desire whenever he feels like it, with no regard whatsoever of her feelings and desires. I am not a feminist and I am not one of those who defend women passionately against the countless forms of injustice they have suffered for centuries because of religion, but I have a mother, a sister and a lover and I cannot stand for them to be humiliated and stigmatized in this bone-chilling way, because they are my dearest and I love them too much to treat them with this flawed and nauseating manner which debunks undoubtedly the claim that Islam is a religion of equality and freedom!

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Waleed Al-Husseini is a Palestinian ex-Muslim. He fell afoul of the Palestinian authorities after blogging critically about Islam in 2010. For this ‘crime’, he was jailed and tortured. He managed to flee to France where he currently resides. He details his reasons for dumping Islam for atheism



Muslims often ask me why I left Islam. What strikes me is that Muslims can’t seem to understand that renouncing Islam is a choice offered to everyone and that anyone has the right to do so. They believe anyone who leaves Islam is an agent or a spy for a Western State, namely the Jewish State, and that they get paid bundles of money by the governments of these countries and their secret services. They actually don’t get that people are free to think and believe in whatever suits them.

Before we begin, I would like to emphasize that by writing this article, I did not mean to imply that Christianity or Judaism were better than Islam, and the reader should not fool himself into thinking that I only reject Islam among religions, all of which are to me a bunch of mind-blowing legends and a pile of nonsense that compete with each other in terms of stupidity.

First of all, I had to remove the sacred envelope the Charia (Islamic jurisdiction) was shrouded in, so as to question, challenge and study it with the sharp eye of a truth seeker, not that of the bearded sheikhs who proceed to a massive brainwashing of their audience, promoting Islam as a religion of peace, brotherhood, mercy, justice and equality; a religion that saved women from a sad fate and granted them a better status, in addition to applying social justice.

Babalawos

Pls can you clear things up about Yahweh/Olorun in this thread?

Thank you in advance

Bros, buy a lock and use it

It doesn't prevent her from stealing because i know those that can pick locks but it gives one extra hurdle to cross which might make her not to bother stealing

OP, truth is that almost every human would steal if they're SURE of getting away with it 100%

A popular locksmith said very true words

a lock doesn't keep bad people away, it prevents good people from turning to bad people

APCsupporter:
I guess christianity doesn't brainwash people. Patiently waiting for your response

Lol

johnydon22:
Your inability to ignore irrelevant mentions/giving unnecessary attention to posts that you should simply ignore at all times always end up derailing your thread.

whats so hard in ignoring a mention aimed at derailing and personal tantrums?

Anyway i still believe all these stories of conversions/deconversions are starkly unnecessary.

Noted

Thanks

Oh! No longer 100% atheist conversion Copying me I see

winner01:
Using two monikers to reply to the same comment
Are you this lonely

The Lonely one is you who's so hurt by these testimonies that you just had to come and derail, how many times did you have to check the thread till now?

Probably 6times, then quickly posted nonsense

I'm not hopefullandlord, maybe I am

Pastors and Christians are leaving your god behind

If you've got nothing good to say, swerve

I don't remember calling you on this thread

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DeSepiero:
I just wonder how much more pastors are unable to decamp, especially here in Nigeria, due to the issues highlighted by the ex-pastor in the OP.

Agreed

Oh! This gonna be goooddd

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i'm 22 years old i live in a muslim country i used to defend islam and muslims in the internet whenever an atheist used to bash it , and ironically im an athiest now after opening my eyes and seaching and reading many things about Islam which i didnt know before , and 90% of muslims don't know and won't dare to question because they are either scared or just dont care , for me it was fear of my family because my parents are religious people my mother is a Religion teacher so i never dared to tell her about the doubts i had ever since i was 12 , years passed by and thx to my mother again i was force fed glorious stories about islam that made me a religious person myself the effect of parents or another person on a child is really scary i reached the point where i was like 10000% sure that everything in QUran is real and did happen , ofcourse whenever i watched some Atheists talking about religion i get some questions in my head but i didnt bother to look more into that , i quickly turn on the TV and find an islamic Tv channel (which are like 60% of Nilesat channels) and i listen to those Imams and the same thing happens again they get rid of my doubts with their glorious stories about Prophet and how good he was ... remembering these moments i feel like an idiot and im ashamed of it , anyway the big turning point for me was 2 years ago when i watched a video that i wish i didnt watched but im thankful that i watched it at the same time , you might heard of the notorious ''Dafu Love'' video which was made by that Psycopath child rapist called Peter Scully anyway the content of that video shocked me i couldnt sleep for 10 days i almost lost my sanity (i wont discuss the video because its terrible) somehow that video made it clear for me that there is no way that there is a God out there who can possibly let those 11 months babies die like that ! so i started reading QUran and understanding the meanings and reading about the prophet and overall just looking at the islamic world and what did Islam and this so called great Allah did to it , and after that i reached the conclusion that i have been living a big stupid lie my whole life .. I felt sad because i wasted so much time being a muslim but i also felt free that feeling was just amazing i feel light i feel like my brain is limitless now it's hard to explain but it's justa wonderful feeling. Ofcourse my life is the same as it used to be because i can't just go outside I DONT BELIEVE IN ALLAH ANYmore , i probably will be sent to jail for 15 years or worse getting killed for apostasy or commiting social suicide , i still pretend to be a muslim to fit in my family and friends and the whole society its terrible but when im alone i feel free and that what matters . that was my story with Islam and how i became a NonBeliever i just wanted to share it with you , and excuse my terrible English and Punctuation.

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