₦airaland Forum

Ojuntana:
Don't blame you. It's poor education that makes you not know what a parable is. None of the pastors have ever said they are better than Jesus. So you can't speak for them. Have you drank your camel's urine today?

well camel urine is medicine for Arabs.

. have u drink Jesus blood today?

Ojuntana:
Granted that of Abraham. I don't want to go into the interpretation of it. But show us where Noah was called a propjet. Not only him. Show where Solomon, Aaron, David, Jacob, Joseph, Isaac where called prophets. It's only your fake prophet that went about plagiarizing people's history and calling people prophets

mumu go into the interpretation na

Do u know all those u mentioned are part of 48 Jewish prophets?


What is a prophet? D

Ojuntana:
So because of less than one chapter means Moses did not write the Torah. Oya tell us who wrote it then. At least we all know Muhammad never wrote a word of the quran. It is a fabrication of some other man who had others burned so that you all can follow his own beliefs

those who wrote it are unknown

Ojuntana:
You have still not shown anywhere anybody referred to himself as Allah of the Universe. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob should be smart enough for any average person but you are dull. Is Jacob not the same person as Israel?

the answer have been answered in the long ass Post, check it .


Now tell me where God promised Abraham a that he will start a nation called isreal!

Ojuntana:
Read Galatians 4 to see it. They know so no big deal about it. That is why you can't justify how Muhammad became a prophet from the line of the Jews

word by Paul, well a'ight.


Jesus ancestors the isrealites were worst of slave,they were in slavery in Egypt for 500 years.

Ojuntana:
Show evidence for all these talk of Hagar starting Tawaf. I hope you know that Kaabah was not the only Kaabah in the Arab world in the time of Muhammad. So maybe Hagar did Tawaf round all of them

the seven round was from her according to history but the tawaf was already done by Abraham before the pagans of Mecca took over.

Ojuntana:
Where did Abraham prophesy pilgrimage to Mecca? Show it oo

And ˹remember˺ when We assigned to Abraham the site of the House, ˹saying,˺ “Do not associate anything with Me ˹in worship˺ and purify My House for those who circle ˹the Ka’bah˺, stand ˹in prayer˺, and bow and prostrate themselves.

Call people to the pilgrimage They will come to you on foot and on every lean camel from every distant path-Quran 22:26-27

Ojuntana:
If pagans worship on Sunday, that's their business. We also have pagans who worship on Friday. You can't choose a day for pagans not to worship. What is important is that Christians chose it as their day and not because of any pagan.

Sun is worship on Sunday, Christians worship on Sunday

Ojuntana:
Why should we forget about Muhammad? Because you can't defend is fake and murderous ways abi?
The prophet is Jesus. It is referred to in Acts 3. There's no one coming after Jesus. He is the embodiment of God in human form. Anyone coming after him to start any other thing after his finished work is simply fake !!

the prophet is Jesus? . Plus peter and John say the sh!t in act 3 cos the Jews ain't having that,they know Jesus is not that prophet.

I thought some of your pastors said calling Jesus a prophet is blasphemy? confused people.

Now list what make Jesus like Moses

Ojuntana:
There's nothing in both verses you quoted that shows Allah speaking as Lord of the Universe. It is still someone referring to him. I need a verse where Allah refers to himself as Lord of the Universe or is Allah dumb that he cannot speak for himself? Let me give you an example
Exodus 3:6 Can you see the direct reference in bolded. I AM. Give me a verse and stop quoting reported speeches that can be denied anytime!

the God of Jew grandfather and Jew children alone .


Hear what Qur'an Said

But when he came to it, he was called from the bush in the sacred ground to the right side of the valley: “O Moses! It is truly I. I am Allah—the Lord of all universe -Quran 28:30


Allah didn't discriminate unlike Yahweh the god of Jews and Jews alone

Ojuntana:
When did I ever say that. It was your dumb self that claimed Kanu speaks for Christian. Very dull to be honest

cos u link igboho to Islam.


kanu spoke for Christianity,he always make reference of judeo-christian.

Ojuntana:
So in your dull mind, being African is being black. You dull gaan. So Algerians, Egyptian, Moroccans, Angolans, South Africans are not Africans. See mumu What about Albinos. I guess they are black too.

nigga!

Show me a black vactican Pope.

Ojuntana:
No we shouldn't believe him. We should believe people whose religion promotes taqqiya. The church doctrine on their website says all men are created equal but we should not believe them but you and your headslamming prophet

show me bolded where their church website said that!

Ojuntana:
Gregory was not white bros mumu. He was Arab. No one refers to Arabs as white. Whites are Caucasian race. Same with Victor. He was a Cushite. So your claim of only white being pope is DOA. Besides, two Africans vied for the last papacy. Arinze of Nigeria and a Ghanaian
Talking of Ethiopian, which Ethiopian became a pope of Vatican City?

Gregory an Arab,Victor cushite??


Evidence that said this.

Ojuntana:
That is why Christianity is better. No one can lay claim to being superior to the other because no language is official language or a certain place mandatory. But y'all must kiss the Sultanate and Arabian asses

Did u read the line where i said your masters that brought it to yall, majorities of them have left it?

Ojuntana:
Stupid question. Oyedepo is a northerner as far as Nigerian constitution is concerned. This is not Islam where some Muslims are seen as inferior and Arne

Northerner and full blooded Yoruba


Why hasn't u make a core northerner Christian as CAN president?

Ojuntana:
They were elected after Kaigama finished his tenure. You still haven't told me why only Fulani sultan can become leader of Muslims in Nigeria and you are arne

U still haven't tell me why both of them are igbo?


Sultan sokoto is just the head of a Group called Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs,one of the Islamic group in Nigeria,they have their own objective. they have both north and south deputy secretary general while here in Yoruba,we have Muslim leader (imam) and mufti of Yoruba Land

Ojuntana:
Because the two black cardinals did not win the election. That is not to say a black cannot become pope as African popes have emerged before. Now when will a Yoruba man become leader of Muslims.

cos they won't even let them win


Alhaji Dawud Akinola is president of Muslim in Yoruba Land,so why should we worry about one group out of many groups in Islam?

Ojuntana:
You can't understand it because you're a dummy. Solomon prayed to God that wherever the children of Israel are, if they face Jerusalem, God should hear them. God gave him an answer that if they seek his face He will hear them. As a result, the children of Israel started facing Jerusalem. Now, is Muhammad an Israelite that he is facing Jerusalem? How did an Arabian become brethren to Jews whose religion he never practiced? You have failed to explain that

Where did Yahweh commanded the isrealites to be facing kaabah while worshipping?


Arabian become Jew brother through their fathers Abraham!

Ojuntana:
They used to circle the Kaabah and Muhammad copied it from them. Whether it's seven times or once is irrelevant.

Changing mouth Everytime and sh!t

the traditional was actually copied by pagans .

Ibrahim and his son have been doing it long before the pagans if Mecca overtake it


We made the House a resort and a sanctuary for people, saying, ‘Take the spot where Abraham stood as your place of prayer.’ We commanded Abraham and Ishmael: ‘Purify My House for those who walk round it, those who stay there, and those who bow and prostrate themselves in worship. Qur'an 2:125

Ojuntana:
Jews can be wrong. No one ever said they are infallible

the Jews have been performing sabath on Saturday even before Jesus

Ojuntana:
I already educated you how Jews count days and night. If you're too dull to understand, don't blame me

nah nigga

From Friday night to Sunday morning is how many nights?

And I should know that,his tomb was found empty early in the morning.

Ojuntana:
How does that make it a day of worship. Simple question you're repeating the same thing

special day for worshipping not a day of worshipping cos Muslims worship everyday, Friday is like festival to Muslims.

Ojuntana:
Lies. Mandeans never believe such. They follow the Torah which is the most important thing. They don't have a separate book like Muhammad

they don't believe in Moses

Ojuntana:
Why should they have the five articles of faith. They are an Arabic religion too true or false

they shouldn't have it though cos they ain't black.

Arab have many religions just like the Jews

Ojuntana:
Abraham was stolen into the Quran with lies and plagiarism

Peace be unto the father of Faith

Ojuntana:
Because most countries in ECOWAS have adopted English, French and Portuguese as their lingua franca. It means they recognize the official languages of all the countries. However, your Islam only recognizes Arabic as the only language of worship. Mental slavery

Why can't ecowas recognize all the 130 West Africa languages?

Just tell me the reason!

Ojuntana:
That is not headslamming. Is that how you worship, by just falling on your face? That will mean all Yorubas who prostrate are headslammers which we know is not true

do u know cherubim and sephraim follow Jesus and slammed their head too?

Ojuntana:
So you are gloating over unofficial name. What a shame.

And u are gloating over a name?

Ojuntana:
Of course they are peaceful. They only decided to follow Muslim logic of defending oneself. Do you have an issue with that?

pope innocent 2, crusaders and Leopold say No

Ojuntana:
But Muhammad did die and y'all are still damned. If Jesus didn't resurrect, we'll be damned!

And y'all damn cos he never died nor resurrected

Ojuntana:
It choke

Nah u choked

Ojuntana:
Yes na. Or do you dispute that too?

how is he the father?

Mary got pregnant before getting Marry to Joseph

Ojuntana:
Who invented Taqqiya? your prophet lived on lies. He claimed he was a prophet yet got poisoned by a woman

and?

Was he the first prophet to encounter evil?

Sour wine killed Jesus and before that,he was beaten,slapped the fact that he complained about the slap instead of turn another cheek just as he preached



John was beheaded and many prophets were stoned to death

Ojuntana:
Romans 1:16

Romans 1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek

Yahweh or Jesus said that?

Hear what Jesus himself actually said

You Samaritans know very little about the one you worship, while we Jews know all about him, for salvation comes through the Jews.

John 4:22

Ojuntana:
Dumb talk. First of all, Jews were under Roman rule when Jesus was born so he could have easily started a war against the Romans.
Second, if you say Moses, Samuel, Elijah had already fought all the war Jesus was supposed to fight

who is he going to gather to fight the war?
Many Jews saw him as lying ass

Ojuntana:
can you then tell me what war Muhammad was fighting then? That means Muhammad was just a bloodthirsty man who had no reason to fight wars but still went ahead because he loves killing and maiming

The same war Elijah fought against Baal prophets

Ojuntana:
The Jews never said they are expecting another prophet after Jesus and even if they do, it is obviously not Muhammad

yes they were cos of the promise Yahweh made to Moses in deu 18:18 about sending a prophet like him

So when John came, they sent people to him to know whether he is the prophet.


John 1:19-26

19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?

20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.

21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?

23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.

24 And they which were sent were of the Pharisees.

25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?

26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;




Our pastor ojutana,who is that prophet that was mentioned along Elijah and Christ?



And Note it was stated in the Bible that Elijah would come back and Jesus said John is the Elijah that is to come again,the fact that John denied it

1Sharon:
She wanted to divest and she got it.

Those Nigerian men that are team foreign women how far?

Nairaland is filled with coon ass niggas with self hatred for themselves

They married interrcially thinking it would solve racism.

I think that's not the picture he reacted to

Ojuntana:
This mumu does not understand sarcasm. I am telling you since you know so much of the Bile tell us what it refers to. You are the one who said God's commandment concerning Aaron's portion does not include humans so since you know better than Bible scholars tell us na. Someone that doesn't know that some practices in Islam are obtained from idolatry

Oh it is sarcasm now?

Holy spirit can't help u to answer the question?


Islam obtained from idolatary

Like Christmas tree, worshipping on Sunday and human sacrifice?

Ojuntana:
They are not from the same mother. The covenant of God to Abraham was to the seed that will come from Sarah his wife not Hagar a surrogate slave

So children from different mother can't be brothers again?


Slave?

That means she is not worst in slavery than children of isreal that did hard work in Egypt for 500 hundred years.


That also make Jesus a descent of slaves

Ojuntana:
Why should holy spirit help you. Do you believe in Holy spirit? Go and ask the djinn that was disturbing your Muhammad to help you

I'm actually referring to your dumbass .

Use holy spirit to answer the misery question

Ojuntana:
The compensation is not punishment according to you.

When did I say the bolded?

The reason why he would pay compensation is because the slave is bethroned to another man for marriage not because he smashed her.


If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master. But since she is not a free woman, neither the man nor the woman will be put to death.


Keeping deceiving yourself there

Ojuntana:
Tell us the compensation Muhammad paid to marry Khadijah.

he paid her dowry

Ojuntana:
Tell us the compensation he paid to all the people he killed and inherited their wives

did Moses and Samuel and Solomon paid it?

Ojuntana:
Your Muhammad is not better than them. He had people fighting for him as his bodyguards. He stole from people to feed himself and even did a gigolo marriage.
He even said you should drink camel urine to heal your diseases. Which one is more fake than that? He also plagiarized the Torah and plagiarized idol worshippers of Mecca in pilgrimage and circumambulation Which prophet fake pass Muhammad who got poisoned by a woman he was lusting after?

While they are better than your Jesus

He commanded his enemies to be killed
He said he didn't bring peace
He flogged people out of synagogue instead of caution them
He cursed fig tree angrily because he was hungry and didn't see fruits on the fig tree

Ojuntana:
Abraham, Noah were not prophets. It's your confused Muhammad that went about distributing prophets to people. Abraham and Noah are progenitors of Jews and the Jews never said they were prophets. If you doubt it, tell me the people Abraham preached to. Even Noah that was reported to have preached to people to repent, the Bible did not say God sent him. He did that of his own and that is why no one listened to him. So go and hold Muhammad the Arab who was distributing prophet to everyone responsible for the lies that fill your head.

What is the meaning of prophet?

Abraham is not a prophet?

The Lord said to pharaoh when he collected Abraham wife

Now return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet, and he will pray for you and you will live. But if you do not return her, you may be sure that you and all who belong to you will die.”

Genesis 20:7




Noah wasn't a prophet too





He was the mediator between God and people. God told him about the flood that was to come. He told the people, but they did not believe.

Ojuntana:
Where's the sense in this?

abi Moses write am?

And write about his death and burial join

Ojuntana:
Go and read Genesis 12 to see it.

I read it and I didn't see the word "isreal"

Ojuntana:
Muhammad is of the line of Ishmael the slave. They are not from the seed of Sarah that God established his covenant with. If not, tell us the genealogy of Ishmael the way we have it of Isaac. Tell us the prophets and history of Arabs and how God worked with them like we have it of the Jews. Just because they share the same father does not make him a part of Israel's bloodline.

a slave??

Which Bible said that?


Don't let the Arab Christians and Arab Jews hear u calling their forefather that

Ojuntana:
You can't steal everything na. It will be too obvious. That's why he also copied of the pagan practices of Mecca like pilgrimage and circumambulation

Tawaf started by Hagar and pagans of Mecca copied many years they took control of kaabah while pilgrimage was already prophetized by Abraham


Pagans worship sun on Sunday, christianity copied it.

Eastern was started as a pagan,u copied it.

Ojuntana:
Lol. So Muhammad is a brother to and one of the Israelites abi? So the Bible is talking about Muhammad all over a sudden? The same Bible that your Muhammad said is corrupted.
Bros go and read Acts 3: 15-22 to know who was being referred to There's nothing you people will not do to seek validation for your fake prophet

Let forgot about Muhammed now

Who the fvck is the prophet in due18:18 and the prophet the Jews are expecting after John the Baptist and Jesus?

Ojuntana:
See mumu. It doesn't refer to human according to the Bible scholar. Show us the one that refers to humans then. Anything consecrated to the lord belongs to Aaron's line. No amount of foolish argument from you can change that.

so if it doesn't referred to human,them why are u using the verse to answer what Yahweh and eleazer did with the virgin girls?

Ojuntana:
Which prophets are those that are his brethren. Mention their names. You just keep lying and lying to defend the indefensible. When did an Arab become brethren to a Jew?
Go and ask him. I'm not a follower of Moses. I follow Jesus. Jesus never asked anyone to be killed. Muhammad however killed people. He's a murderer







Where did anyone stand in Muhammad's way? Did Allah ever ask him to go anywhere? He left Mecca of his own volition. Allah never asked him to leave Mecca and no one stood in his way. If you have evidence of that bring it. He was the one attacking people. He attacked Mecca first. Same with Medina. Same with Khaybar

are descendants of Ismaelite and Isaac not brethrens again?


Help me use holy spirit to tell me why Moses killed the non virgins?

Ojuntana:
Why do you stop reading at the place that suits you. Didn't you see the post that says he must pay compensation to her master? You be mumu o. You'll quote Bible and still be asking stupid questions that have no meaning.

compensation for being bethroned to another man mumu,are u so dumb to understand simple statement?

Ojuntana:
Of course they are prophets. God is not a selfish person like your Muhammad who went about claiming to be the last prophet. God still sends his message through people till today. Think about it yourself. Why would God decide to make Muhammad the last prophet? For what reason exactly? Is he the best among the prophets or the smartest. Even Jesus never called himself the last prophet. That was a selfish move by Muhammad to ensure no one abandons his preferred religion. It is not based on any fact of God as we've known him in all religions.

private jet and bodyguards prophets

Prophet of fake miracle and prophecy

Ojuntana:
No they weren't. But they sure weren't practicing Islam. They never knew of any Allah and sure never said any shahada

I thought u said all Bible prophets are Jewish religion?


But they submit to will of God and told the people sent to them to do the same, didn't think they?

Ojuntana:
Is that what Muhammad told you? Well, Psalm is a Jewish book and the Jews told us David alone did not write Psalms. Psalms is a compilation of songs and poems from different people. Sons of Korah, Asaph are some among them. Even Miriam's song of praise to God after they left Egypt is in psalms.

just like the person that wrote Torah didn't wrote it alone

Ojuntana:
Abraham was called by God to leave his country and start a new nation called Israel. So if you say Abraham is mesopotamian, then all Israelites who are his children are also mesopotamian including all the prophets. But we know that's not the case. God separated the people of Israel did himself to be his people. So I ask again how Muhammad came into that picture.

God told Abraham to start a new nation called isreal? which Bible verse said that?



Is Muhammed not descendant of Abraham again?

Ojuntana:
See stupid question. Believe Muhammad who plagiarized the Torah

how come Muhammed didn't plagarized where Yahweh said u can give carcass to foreigners?

Ojuntana:
Lol. So it's Muhammad that is been referred to abi? Lol so Muhammad is no longer Arab he is now Israelite

that is the problem .

I said who the fvck is Muhammed is not something u should be concerned about now.



Who the fvck is the prophet in due18:18 and the prophet the Jews are expecting after John the Baptist and Jesus?

Ojuntana:
Don't be a dummy. I already gave you example of Samuel who was given to Yahweh. He served in the temple. Stop playing dumb

Samuel wasn't captured in the war fool,and this verse don't even refered to human.


So what did Yahweh and eliazer did the human booty of war captured?

Ojuntana:
when you can't answer simple question of why Muhammad was praying towards Jerusalem?

Prophets before him (his brethrens) used to face the face.

Now why did Moses ordered the non virgins to be killed?

Ojuntana:
Because they stood against the people off Israel in their way out of Egypt.
God already said he would curse those who curse them

and it wasn't bad and why is it bad when Muhammed did the same?

Ojuntana:
Where did Yahweh allow sex slave? You think this is Muhammad we're talking about?

If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master. But since she is not a free woman, neither the man nor the woman will be put to death.

Leviticus 19:20


So no punishment or compensation for the man as far as the slave girl is not free or bethr to another man for marriage

Ojuntana:
Read Leviticus 7:34-35. I have given you this before. You seem to dull to remember

34 For the breast of the wave offering and the thigh of the heave offering I have taken from the children of Israel, from the sacrifices of their peace offerings, and I have given them to Aaron the priest and to his sons from the children of Israel by a statute forever.’ ”

35 This is the consecrated portion for Aaron and his sons, from the offerings made by fire to the Lord, on the day when Moses presented them to 5minister to the Lord as priests. 36 The Lord commanded this to be given to them by the children of Israel, don the day that He anointed them, by a statute forever throughout their generations.



Leviticus 7:34–36

I didn't see where I asked u in that verse!

I didn't see where the virgins are supposed to serve in the temple of eliazer the priest,maybe u should show me.

Ojuntana:
Go and ask them. I'm not a Jew. I'm a Christian. Go and ask Hebrews why God said they should kill the non-virgins. It is between them and God.

U must answer me by fire by Force

Ain't u using old testament?

Ojuntana:
Meanwhile why did Allah allow Muhammad to kill people?

Why did YAHWEH allowed Moses to kill people?

Ojuntana:
Why did he allow him to be a gigolo for Khadijah? Why did he allow him to have sex slaves?

why did Yahweh allowed sex slave?

Ojuntana:
He is the last according to the Quran but the Quran did not tell us why he should be the last. Are there no more prophets in heaven or Allah is tired of sending Prophets?

Oh maybe Yahweh is still keep sending prophets like adeboye,oyedepo,oritsejafor and so on

Ojuntana:
All the prophets were Jews practicing Judaism. None of them brought a new religion.
So why did your Muhammad bring a new religion

Was Abraham,Noah,lot practicing Judaism?

Ojuntana:
and a new book called Quran? So we should throw away the Torah given to Moses? How come he is the only Arab that is a Prophet?

David owns psalm .



And why is Abraham the only prophet that is Mesopotamia?

Ojuntana:
I'm not responsible for your poor understanding of English. What does there has not risen anyone mean? Does it not mean it is in the past?
Here is what John himself said of Jesus: Mark 1:7 And in that Matthew 11, even John asked his disciples to speak to Jesus on his behalf when he was in trouble and see the other part of the verse you misquoted

so who are we going to be believe between Jesus and John the Baptist?

Ojuntana:
It shows that the prophets of Israel have come already before John. So who the Bleep is Muhammad then?

Who is the fvck is Muhammed is not something u supposed to be concern on now,the thing that u supposed to be concerned on is who the fvck is the prophet God said he would send in due 18:18 and who the fvck is the prophet the Jews are expecting after John the Baptist and Jesus.

Ojuntana:
English again. Baba go to school. This is not Allah speaking. Or will Allah give praise unto himself and refer to himself in the third party? I would have expected something like "I am Allah, Lord of the Universe". Not someone praising him and calling him lord of the Universe.
He is God of Israel. The same Israel of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that Muhammad plagiarized

mumu u are
Let me assume u deny the first one,what about the second one and the other I haven't Post?

Chai eleyi ponu oooo



It is Allāh who made for you the earth a place of settlement and the sky a canopy and formed you and perfected your forms and provided you with good things. That is Allāh, your Lord; then blessed is Allāh, Lord of the worlds
Qur'an 40:64



God of isreal and isreal alone father knows his children,even all the people he called his children in Bible are Jews.

Ojuntana:
Silly meaningless questions

I Know your dumbass thought igboho is Muslim before!

Ojuntana:
Which British is in Namibia and Botswana? You're an illiterate in almost everything. Those whites have naturalized and see themselves as Africans to all intents and purposes

Africa and white

How is it the same?

Chai u so dumb.

Ojuntana:
And you did not read where the head of the church said what Oukamp said does not represent the church's stand? Are you naturally blind or just forming? Check the church's website. They affirm that all men are created equal and all are creatures of God. So quit the lies. It is only Muslims that have inferior Muslims called Arne. Stop fishing around the world to justify your inferiority to the Fulani

do not represent the church stand concerning the journalists not concerning the worship.

Oponu even if the church leader said that,we supposed to believe him?

No matter how racist Whites are, they will deny it


The policy is their church is white only.

Ojuntana:
You have started playing dumb again. What exactly is a "white ass non European" First you claimed only Europeans become Pope. When I showed you Francis, you said he's of European descent. Now I show you Gregory you say he is white non-European. Naw wa o. I guess Ethiopia is not part of Africa then. You will by your own hand justify things Chai!! Go and kiss the Sultan's ass abeg

Where did I say only European?

U are mumu,I said only white,u blind?

Talking of Ethiopian, which Ethiopian became a pope of Vatican City?

Ojuntana:
Protestant don't have a world leader like Catholics. You have switched to Protestants after you have been defeated on the matter for Catholics. Why don't you accept your Sultan and Arabs overlord and have Peace.

just like how Islam don't have world leader.

Arab overlord?

Pathetic,your own masters that brought religion to y'all, majority of them have left it

Ojuntana:
See mumu question. Oya explain why Kaigama from Taraba was President of Catholics. So a Yoruba man from Kogi is no longer a Northerner?
Oya when will a Yoruba Muslim from Kwara become head of Muslims in Nigeria. At least make una try small na

didirin do people like oyedepo see himself as a northerner?


U still hasn't tell me the reason why both president and VP of Catholics are igbo.

Ojuntana:
Lol. So only blacks are in Africa. What about Arabs? Are they not in Africa? See Mumu o. At least Victor is an African pope. That is not debated. Oya show us a leader of Muslims from North that is not Fulani at least na

u keep changing topic

I said why hasn't black became pope in Vatican,is the question hard for u to answer?

Ojuntana:
You have not answered why Muhammad was praying towards Jerusalem. I already shared 2 Chronicles 7:14 with you.

if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land-Chronicles 7:14

I still haven't seen where Yahweh commanded the Jews to be facing Jerusalem.




And concerning the reason why the prophet used to face Jerusalem is because the Jews prophet before him(his brethrens)used to face it.

Ojuntana:
From the above quotes, you can see that both the hajj and the circumambulation used to be done in Mecca before Muhammad himself took over the place. So quit with the lies. Go and find out about your religion

u shot yourself again.

U said the pagans of Mecca used to circle the kaabah seven times and I ask what is your evidence that they used to circle kaabah seven times?

I still haven't see where the pagans of Mecca circle kaabah seven times.

Ojuntana:
Evidence or it is taqiyya

so your masters Jews are wrong?

Ojuntana:
Who gave that timing. I hope you know Jews count days and night differently. Jesus was discovered to not be at the tomb on the first day of the week after he was killed on the day of preparation of Passover in the afternoon. The Jews count days and time by six hours. So the first day was the first six hours on the cross, the first night was that same night till midnight, the second night was midnight till morning, the second day was morning till midday, third day was midday till evening, third night was evening till midnight and even a fourth night from midnight till the morning of the first day of the week sunday when he was discovered to not be in the tomb. Go and read Luke very well to see that Jews count days every six hours.

prolonging this with u wouldn't even make sense.

He was in the tomb on Friday night-first night

He was in the tomb on Saturday night-second night.

He wasn't in the tomb on Sunday morning-three night hasn't complete.

And he said he would use three nights

What happened there?

Ojuntana:
So how does this make Friday to be the day of worship? You too dull.

mumu that is the day the first human was created.

Ojuntana:
Mandaels are also Jewish in case you don't know. They are not a different religion just like Shia are also Muslims.

niggas stay lie.

Go and Read the belief of jewish and
Mandaeism,some scholars take the view that Mandaeism is older and dates back to pre-Christian times.,Mandaeans assert that their religion predates Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as a monotheistic faith.

Ojuntana:
Same with Druze. It's a form of Islam. The fact you need to answer now is how Adam a Jewish figure became a prophet in Muhammad's Quran Don't run away from it. Face it like a true Muslim

Nigga keep lying, druze don't believe in five article of faith in Islam.

Just like Abraham a Jewish figure became a prophet in Muhammed Qur'an.

Ojuntana:
Oya we have heard. They are using three languages not two. Why is Islam only using Arabic. Does Allah not understand any other language apart from Arabic or he adopts Arabic as his preferred choice like ECowas did for English, Portuguese and French. If so why? Reason am na. You and your Yoruba Muslim friend will be playing in Yoruba. When it's time to pray, both of you will switch to Arabic. No be ment be dat?

why is ecowas not using all 130 West African languages?

Ojuntana:
How is that headslamming. He fell on his face like a man prostrates on the ground not like you guys do. To headslam, you first stand up straight, then bend at the middle, then kneel, then hit your head on the ground. Then you repeat it all over again. Show where Jesus did all that
Yes. Tell us whether Jesus did it five times daily. He only prostrated once in the Garden of Gethsemane and he never asked anyone to join him to do that. So why are you using that to justify headslamming

The key point there is headslamming.


He fell on his face means he headslammed.

Moses and other Bible prophet did the same

Ojuntana:
Taqiyya again. The church is officially known as Cathedral of our Lady of the Assumption. That was its former name. Note that the place was originally a church until Muslim invaders took it over and erected a mosque there. It was the crusaders who got all those places back. That's why I say the crusades were justified in a sense.

and the unofficial name is?


I thought Christians are peaceful people?

Ojuntana:
So how does that make his death a human sacrifice when there's resurrection as you say.

Ain't talking about human sacrifice here.

If Jesus didn't actually die,y'all are damn.

Ojuntana:
Good. Keep it that way.

hmmm

Ojuntana:
Why will they call Jesus a bastard when they know his father. Muhammad is known to be fake prophet and usurper in the Jewish religion.

Joseph the carpenter?


The father?
Chai

Ojuntana:
.
That's ur own headache o.

History Teller,if Paul can lie to preach Jesus,then who are u not to lie?

Ojuntana:
Parable again? Stop being dumb bros

Parable indeed,he took after his father Yahweh.

Ojuntana:
God already rejected them after they rejected Jesus' Gospel

Evidence of that

Ojuntana:
Yahweh, Samuel, David and Moses did it before Jesus came. After he came, he brought a new way for all men to follow. Muhammad should have followed that path. Muhammad should have surrendered his life to Jesus

Jesus should be thanking all those u mentioned cos if not them Jesus would have fought the midianites, amalekites,Baal prophet s alone


The war Jesus supposed fought,those guys have fought it for him.


Why would Muhammed will follow him when the Jews are expecting another prophet after Jesus?

Laggafin:
Seyi fall hands.. Why not a christian, lol

why not a babalawo

olaric:
Is CAN a political organisation?

chose leader In an organization is an internal politics.

If y'all so called the so called northern Christian,then make them as CAN president first

Which one is worship?

What shows they are worshipping in that picture?

Ojuntana:
I don't see sense in this. I've already proved to you that those for Yahweh where to serve in the temple under Eleazar the priest

and u don't give me Bible verse that says so.

If they were to serve, then why was the non-virgins be killed?


Abi they (non-virgins) can't also serve in the temple?

Ojuntana:
If all prophets are equal to each other? Why did Muhammad claim he's the last prophet?
Why did he institute a religion different from those of the other prophets?
Where did you see that John is higher than Jesus?
Yahweh is God of Israel. Yes?

cos he is the last Accord to the Quram, that is why he was sent to the whole whole unlike Jesus sent to only isreal.


And what religion is that,all prophet brought the same thing.



Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he
Matthew 11:11


Is Jesus not born of a woman?


Yeah he is God of isreal.

Ojuntana:
Show evidence where Allah referred to himself as the God of the Universe
I am even surprised. From Muhammad's tales in the Quran, it is obvious that he was referring to the God of the Jews as Allah though we know that Allah has existed as one of the gods of Mecca, the god of his Quraysh tribe before he was born. So tell us how Muhammad came to know Yahweh the Jewish God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob more than the Jews themselves. Tell us how the God of the Jews became the God of Arabs through Muhammad. It is obvious this particular subject shows how faulty Quranic synopsis is.

All praise is for Allah—Lord of the universe-Quran 1:2



but your wishing will not avail unless Allah, the Lord of the Universe, so wishes-Quran 81:29

And so on while your Yahweh is only known as God of isreal

Ojuntana:
He's free to say whatever he likes. He does not speak for Igbo Christian cause he is not an Igbo Christian. Or does Igboho speak for Yoruba Muslims?

is igboho a Muslim?

Is igboho using religion to preach Yoruba nation?

Ojuntana:
White citizens of Namibia and Botswana. This is funny indeed. Did you even open the link or you just pasted it cause it suits your narrative. This is from the link you pasted:

whites are not citizens there?

The remaining boar and British nkọ?

Ojuntana:
Note also that the guys were not worshippers but journalists and the main reason they were not allowed in was because of the negative publications they have been giving the church. It's all there in the story but you're too dumb to read.

let assume the black journalists are there for interview and they were stopped because of the negativity of media then what about the black worshippers
cos u see it clearly where the man said this church is only for whites

According to Africa Review, Oukamp said allowing black people into an all-white church would be violating the “rights of Afrikaans people”.


You must understand I know you want to serve God and everything but I have to protect the rights of Afrikaans people. So I cannot let you in, you guys can go to any other church, but this one is only for white people,” Mr. Oukamp told the journalists.

Ojuntana:
That's ur business. The fact is you can't decide for Igbo what they will do. So go and face your Sultan

Ojuntana:
See Mumu. You just keep capping nonsense. Who told you all the popes of Vatican are white. Browse Gregory III. He was a Syrian. Also note there have been three black popes in the line of popes. When will a Yoruba man become leader of Muslims in Nigeria. Or are you bound to be eternal slaves to Fulani?

a white ass non European man.

Do u know there are white Syrian taht has Eastern European blood?

Also during the time Christianity hasn't spread to Africa except among the Ethiopian


So find another lie.

Ojuntana:
When Islam spread all over the world, it became divided. Islam has many parts now that's why they can't have a single leader. But if there will be, it will either be Grand Khadi of the Holy Mosque or the King of Saudi not any African who is seen as inferior Muslim

pain

Tell me the world leader for Protestant Christians

Ojuntana:
Mumu again. Explain to my why Ignatius Kaigama from Taraba was the former Catholic President. You think Catholic Presidency is like Nigerian Muslim leader that is by birth and tribe? Greet Sultan abeg

explain to me why President and VP of Catholics are igbos?

And speaking of What pertains to it,CAN the govern body for all Christians in Nigeria has never appoint a northerner Christian as their president since its creation except a full Yoruba man from kogi.

Why is that?

Ojuntana:
Lol. Browse Pope Victor. He was African. Greet your Arabian Masters whose language you use to worship

chai what a mumu? so Victor is black now? he was another white man born in the Roman Province of Africa
Look at his pictures,that one looks black to u?

I'm sure u will called Elon Musk a black man since he was born in Africa.

Ojuntana:
I know say you be Mumu and you no understand English. The verse you quoted was Solomon's prayer that whenever Jews turn and pray towards the temple, God should hear them. 2 Chronicles 7:14 is God's acceptance of that request. You still have not explained why Muhammad was facing Jerusalem to pray. He is a Jew? Why did Allah want to please him?

Why do you circle the Kaabah seven times like the idol worshippers of Mecca used to do?

Is that what I asked your stupid ass?

I asked where did Yahweh commanded the children of Israel to be facing Jerusalem while worshipping.


I've answer the first bolded,it is your problem if u don't read it.



The seconded bolded, where is your evidence that pagans of Mecca used to circle kaabah seven time?


So on tawaf,it is tradition in Islam for those that go to Hajj

Then let them end their untidiness and fulfill their vows and perform Tawaf around the ancient Hous[/b]e
Qur'an 22:29


And ˹remember˺ when We assigned to Abraham the site of the House, ˹saying,˺ “Do not associate anything with Me ˹in worship˺ and [b]purify My House for those who circle ˹the Ka’bah˺, stand ˹in prayer˺, and bow and prostrate themselves.
Qur'an 22:26

Ojuntana:
Show evidence that Sabbath is Saturday.

sabath is Saturday Among your Jew masters not Sunday plus the seventh day Adventist go to church on Saturday.Around the 2nd century, the Church of Rome and some churches under its influence adopted Sunday as their day of worship

Ojuntana:
Jesus resurrected on Sunday, the first day of the week as recorded in Luke.

even not only Luke recorded that but other 3 gospel.

The Gospels are clear that Jesus died and His body was hurriedly placed in the tomb late in the afternoon, just before sundown when a Sabbath began (John 19:30-42).

By the traditional "Good Friday–Easter Sunday" timing, from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown is one night and one day. Saturday night to Sunday daybreak is another night, giving us two nights and one day.

So where do we get another night and two days to equal the three days and three nights Jesus said He would be in the tomb?

I need u to answer that

Ojuntana:
Show evidence that Adam was created on Friday. Adam is a Jewish figure why are you worshipping on the day he was created? Are you worshipping Adam now?

Abu Huraira reported the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as saying:

The best day on which the sun has risen is Friday; on it Adam was created. on it he was made to enter Paradise, on it he was expelled from it. And the last hour will take place on no day other than Friday.



And who told u Adam is only Jewish figure?

Adam is druze, Christianity, Jewish, Islam,Mandaeism, figure.

Ojuntana:
It's by choice not force.

u think it is easy to be using 130 languages?

Arindin.

Ojuntana:
Liar!! Jesus never slammed his head on the ground

King James Bible
And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Matthew 26:39




I know the next stupid question u will ask is that did he prayed five times daily.

Ojuntana:
How will you when the place has been destroyed? You want to face a destroyed place to pray? Why then does SA spend so much money to protect the place if it's not important?

just like your Jew masters are still facing where they use to face.

Ojuntana:
But those mosques do not retain the name mosque neither do they continue the practices of the mosque or do they? The Kaabah's name was retained same with the practices of the pagans of Mecca including name Allah

see logic

Mosque–Cathedral of Córdoba is the name of the mosque converted to church in Spain.

Ojuntana:
And then? What does that have to do with our worship?

without Jesus death and ressurction then christianity is rubbish

Ojuntana:
If you don't perform Hajj, you are not a full Muslim. That's a fact. You are not assured of Al-Janna

ok I agree oooo since u keep arguing blindly.

Are u alright now?

Ojuntana:
Before nko? That is why they are bombing Palestinians and Syrians till today

that is they also called Jesus a bastard and sorcerer in their talmud

Ojuntana:
I already supplied you. Go back to our previous chats. Stop forming dumb

u didn't,u just fabricated your own story

Ojuntana:
Yes. They are misguided because Jesus never asked anyone to kill for him unlike Muhammad.

u sure?

And as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king—bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.”

Luke 19:27

Ojuntana:
But they are justified because they wanted to take vengeance on who killed their Lord and Saviour.

so you kill the God chosen people?

Ojuntana:
So your Muhammad is following Moses now? I thought he has his own Quran. Why didn't he follow Jesus instead after all a Christian preached to him? Las las he was poisoned

so there is nothing bad in it when Yahweh, Samuel, David, Moses and so on did it but it is bad when the prophet attacked his own enemies?

What an hypocrite u are?

olaric:
How can you convince me especially if you don't have any ulterior motive that there's not a single competent Christian in the entire Northern part of the country?

Politicians should stop taking us for a ride all the time!

training begin at home.

U CAN that are complain, have y'all even make a core northern Christian as CAN president before?

Igbo bastard

Do u know Muslim majority state if osun vote in Christian-christian?

This is the second time and all South West states are now headed by Christians.

Ojuntana:
No evidence. So what is your problem with that exactly? I already gave you an example of Samuel. Read also Numbers 3, Leviticus 12, Exodus 34 to know what happens to humans offered to God.
It's a pity Muhammad messed up your head so much anything virgin implies sex. You need Jesus bro.

What difference does it make that he died if he's alive? Your Muhammad died by poisoning and remained dead. Yet you're worried about someone who is alive. Na wa o

cos Moses ordered the non Virgins to be killed and virgins should be kept for the army and 32 of them were from Yahweh

Ojuntana:
And I've told you Yahweh had given a rule that anything dedicated to him should be handed over to Aaron's line as their portion. Yet you still keep asking the silly question.
So you agree Abraham, Moses and John the Baptist are equal with Muhammad. Why then do you follow Muhammad like he's superior to any.
Why don't you follow Jesus who is higher than them all?

He died because that's the way he can break the curse of sin and death not as a sacrifice.
His sacrifice is in his obedience. Why do we still keep going round in thus circle. If his death was a sacrificial death, then he couldn't resurrect cause that will defeat the purpose of the death in the first place. It will be like eating your cake and having it. Even a dummy should understand this. I've also shown you Bible verses that shows his sacrifice is in his obedience.
Meanwhile you haven't answered why you have to worship in Arabic all the time? Is Allah an Arabian or he understands only Arabic?
Why was Muhammad facing Jerusalem before?
Why did Allah decide to please Muhammad according to your Quran? Which master looks to please his slave?
Why did Muhammad an Arab become the prophet of the God of Israel?

yes, handed to Aaron's line to do what?


All prophets are equal to each other

John is higher than Jesus

Is Yahweh the god of isreal only?

Why are most the prophet are Jews?

Ojuntana:
Zeph 3 vs 15-16

Are we still talking about Zephaniah chapter 3? Because God refers to himself as Israel's King in that chapter and not any of those things above. So can you now tell how Israel's King became Muhammad's allah? In Genesis, He also called himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Never did he refer to himself as the God of Arabs or Muhammad. So you still have to explain how that same God chose Arabic as his official language while abandoning Hebrew language which is Israel's official language and in which the Torah is written

we are still saying the same thing, Yahweh see himself as God of isreal unlike Allah that referred himself as God of the universe.

Ojuntana:
Kanu is not a Christian neither is he a religious leader. So I don't know why Kanu's opinion becomes a subject of debate. He is a Jew not Christian

and his followers are Christians and they followed what ever he say.

Plus he said Biafra would be established upon judeo-christian

Ojuntana:
See taqiyya again. The church professed that during apartheid but has since renounced that position and is now of the firm belief that all men are equal. The church even has membership in Botswana and Namibia. Stop spreading lies. This is unlike you people that Northern Muslims still see as Arne till this day of July 2022. This is their Wikipedia page. Read it and get understanding and stop spreading taqiyya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaans_Protestant_Church
It is only in Islam that only a Fulani sultan can be leader of Muslims in Nigeria.

why u lying?

So because it has membership in Botswana and Namibia means those places don't have white citizen?


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://face2faceafrica.com/article/apk-orania/amp&ved=2ahUKEwi1zbLjuoD5AhWRiqQKHXfzA4IQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Tlhfiw8Vm2LgxaUQHGFn3


.this even happened in 2017 where black journalists were banned from entering the church.

Ojuntana:
Where did you get that statistics from? Taqiyya statistics abi

so majority of Igbo are now of jewish Faith?

Ojuntana:
Why didn't Tinubu shock them and choose VP as northern Christian. Ahmad Lawan that Buhari and Adamu preferred, is he not from the NE. This your lie does not add up abeg. Atiku that the APC are afraid that the Northern Muslims will vote for is also from NE. The fact is that the northern Muslims believe Tinubu is not Muslim enough just like they believe Yoruba Muslims are Arne. Simple as that. Stop trying to be clever by half

what a mumu.

Tinubu has chose a Muslim candidate and if that pains u go and die.

Ojuntana:
Keep quiet. You can't decide for Fulani who will be sultan. You have to accept who they choose even if it is a six year old boy and he will become your head as long as you are a Nigerian Muslim.
What is the meaning of White pope. The man is Argentine not European. I guess if Chinese becomes Pope you will also say he is white. Mumu. Arinze told you that abi. He knew he can't be pope yet he was up for election. Has any Yoruba Muslim ever been up for election as Sultan or leader of Muslims in Nigeria? The fact he was up means he has a chance and it can happen. In your case. It is sealed. Fulani are your ogas

arindin

White are not only in Europe,they are also in other continents.

All the pope of vactican are white,deal with it.

Ojuntana:
Keep quiet. The Caliphs were the leaders of Muslims worldwide after Muhammad. Did Muhammad not choose Ali to be his successor? So what are you talking about no line of leadership for Muslims worldwide

mumu we are talking about this current situation, during that time Islam hasn't spread all over the world.

Ojuntana:
Anthony Burke is head of Catholics in Nigeria Seems you have hit your head on the floor again. Browse Ignatius Kaigama and stop arguing taqqiya with confidence

ok I agree on that my bad.

Now u haven't tell me why the current Catholic president and VP are Igbo.

Ojuntana:
Sultan is the leader of Muslims in Nigeria. Fact!! Every other thing is a waste of time. A Yoruba Muslim can never become leader of Muslims in Nigeria. They are second-class Muslims or Arne

Just like a black will never become a pope of Vatican, they are second class to white Christians

Ojuntana:
You have been writing nonsense. Even you your mind is not clear so how can you write something clear. Read 2nd Chronicles 6:38-39 and 7 14 which God gave in response to Solomon's prayer to see where Israelites got facing Jerusalem to pray from. That is what Muhammad was copying as if he was a Jew until jealousy started making him to pray towards Mecca claiming God told him to and you his dummies are doing same till today

U keeping shooting yourself in the leg

2chronicles 6:38-39,king Solomon was talking and praising God in that verse and no where did Yahweh commanded the Jews to face Jerusalem there.

He (Solomon)was talking

38 and if they turn back to you with all their heart and soul in the land of their captivity where they were taken, and pray toward the land you gave their ancestors, toward the city you have chosen and toward the temple I have built for your Name; 39 then from heaven, your dwelling place, hear their prayer and their pleas, and uphold their cause. And forgive your people, who have sinned against you.

U feel tell how the bolded is commandment?


And 2 Chronicles 7:14 Never talked about that either,find another lies.

Ojuntana:
If it tell you to show evidence of what makes Friday special now you will say " You were commanded" Christians go to church on Sunday because it is generally believed that is the Sabbath day and more importantly. the day Jesus resurrected. So it is seen as a day of commemoration of Jesus works on earth. Oya explain why Friday was chosen by Muhammad o

Sabath is Saturday,not Sunday that is other lie

Jesus ressurction wasn't even Sunday,he Said he would in the earth for three days,so Friday to Sunday ain't three days and let assume he ressurcted on Sunday,did he commanded y'all to be going to church in Sunday?


Friday is a special day that Adam was created

Ojuntana:
Of course no one forced them to use the two languages. And since they are using two languages, none can be said to be superior to the other unlike Arabic that must be used in Islam. If you can't speak Arabic, you are not a Muslim. End of story

u have to tell me why all the 130 west African languages are not used by ecowas.

Ojuntana:
Meaningless trash. Headslamming is not the only way of worshipping everyone cannot be facing Mecca from their country and hitting their head on the ground

Hehhehee slamming was recorded as worship in the Bible though,even Jesus slammed it.

Ojuntana:
Because he has not completed the five pillars of islam na.

hmmmm

Ojuntana:
No were you? If not, show proof and stop spreading taqiyya

cos it is in the history of Islam.

Ojuntana:
Where will you now face to slam your head Muslims and taqqiya

we will still face where we used to,to slam our head just like how Jews your masters are still facing where they use to face after temple has been destroy.

Ojuntana:
Ask Muhammad. What is not debatable is that Kaabah was a place for idol worshipping. Muhammad just took the place for himself to propagate his own form of religion.

they are many mosque turned to church,that automatically mean those churches are idol places since it was mosque before?

Ojuntana:
What does that have to do with Christian worship? Are you dull or just forming?

mumu don't u know your faith is based on Jesus death and ressurction?

Ojuntana:
Yes. But the five pillars are mandatory and you need Saudi to perform two of them. Hajj and Salat.

despite how I showed u Hajj is for who are able and u still insist it is mandatory

Chai

Ojuntana:
It is the site of the Jewish temple. Why did you go and build Mosque there? Would you like it if Jews build a synagogue near the kaabah? I'm sure you will just start bombing people

did your masters the Jew complained to u?

Ojuntana:
Read up on the people of Khaybar for evidence

nah I need your own evidence.

Ojuntana:
Crusade was done by misguided Christians. Though they were provoked by Muslims carrying out jihad. Can you tell us what Jews in Medina and Khaybar did to Muhammad that he killed them and enslaved their women? A whole Muhammad the prophet o. Was he misguided too?

oh they misguided now?

But they weren't when they were driving Muslims out I just like u cos u funny and u think you slick


The Jews of khaybar are enemies just like how midianites were enemies of Moses

Ojuntana:
Oya no evidence. Show evidence that the virgins were slept with by the priest Eleazar. Or is Eleazar Yahweh?

He died and he resurrected. Did Muhammad resurrect? How can you call someone who died and resurrected human sacrifice when the Bible clearly shows it was his obedience that is the sacrifice.

where did I say eleazer the priest slept with them In the first place?
I asked what did Yahweh did with them, since he told Moses about his shares of the virgins.


Did Abraham,Moses, Jacob,the greatest human John the Baptist ressurcted?
So why u expecting Muhammed ressurction?



Why should he die in the first place if it is not human sacrifice?

ImDStar:
Did he want to recruit Baba into boko haram?
E no go happen!!
No Muslim in this country would ever support Christian Christian ticket no matter how qualified the candidate is.

It will be outright stupidity for any Christian to support such ticket for whatever reason.

You were warned against Buhari in 2015, you're warned again.

then how come Muslims vote massively for awolowo Christian Christian ticket?

Ojuntana:
Evidence of what?

What human sacrifice are you talking about when the sacrifice is alive?
Do you sacrifice something and it will still remain alive?

evidence that the Virgins Yahweh collected are working in serving in synagogue.


But your sacrifice has to die first,so pathetic!

Ojuntana:
See this dumbo. You're the one who doesn't understand English by confusing Aaron's line for Aaron's person. Now you say we're not discussing that. Evidence of what from the Bible? Look not everyone is Muhammad who gets an erection from every woman he sees. Go and read about Samuel. He was also gifted to the priest. So by your submission, the priest was sleeping with him This is so dumb of you. There are even Israelites called Nazarene who also are dedicated to God. Does it also mean the priest is sleeping with them? You guys and sex Sha. 72 virgins in Al-, jannah. Why am I surprised?

I haven't seen evidence for what I asked ooooo.

Ojuntana:
Go and read his sex Hadiths to know if he performed sex slavery or not. I thought you said they are booty of war
Your Muhammad was a sex freak. It's another reason he claimed that he was given license to marry eleven but you his followers shouldn't marry more than four. Dude was always just twisting things to suit his proclivities

Yahweh allowed it or not?

Ojuntana:
It's a stupid question. God accepted his sacrifice of course. I'm waiting for your next stupid question on this.

and u said no human sacrifice in Bible?


Yahweh accept human sacrifice.

Ojuntana:
Ok. So if God is only God of Israel. That means Muhammad is a fake prophet because his Quran was talking about the same God of the Jews which he called Allah. So you agree then that Muhammad is a fake prophet since the God he was referring to already called himself God of Israel. So how did he now become God of Mecca?

where did he called himself God of Mecca only,or God of Jew .

U shot yourself again

He referred himself as God of the universe not God of isreal and he also referred as God of mankind.

Ojuntana:
What does all these have to do with the fact that Northern Muslims see Tinubu as Arne. If not, he would have no problem with them asking him to pick another Muslim from them. Awolowo picked an Igbo man not nothern Christian. You're beginning to sound more confused.

just like kanu followers see Yoruba pastors as fake .

Ojuntana:
Mention the name of the church. You just keep spewing lies. Kanu hates Yoruba pastors? Well that's his problem. He doesn't speak for all Igbo. There are more Igbo Catholics than Kanu followers and a Yoruba man once was head of Catholics. It's not like Kanu loves Muslims so I don't see your point.

The name of the church is The Afrikaanse Protestante Kerk church

There are also many churches like that in US and Western world.

So it has to do with Christianity abi?



And what do Muslims even need kanu love for?

He don't have Muslim followers,95% of his followers are Christians.

Ojuntana:
It pain you?

pain me?

Thing is that northern Muslims don't like power to leave their hand,is either they're president or VP,and this has been happening From the 4th republic.

Especially the north West,that is why tinubu played them and chose VP in North East,it shocked the north west Muslims cos they always want to be at top.

Ojuntana:
Of course six year old can become sultan. Sultan is hereditary and there's no she limit to it. A six year old once became emir so why can't same with sultan. Who said only white people can become pope? The present pope is Latin not European from Argentina. He contested against a Nigerian cardinal Arinze. So you have no point. Only sultan who is Fulani and Dan Fodio's blood can become head of Muslims in Nigeria. Only Saudi Prince can become head of all Muslims worldwide and custodian of the holy mosques. Fact!!

just like how six years can be head of your family.


See how u shut yourself again,I mentioned white pope not European Pope,the pope from Argentina(pope Francis) is as white and European descendant . And cardinal arinze knew damn well he can't be the pope of vatcan.



Saudi are custodian of the holy mosque because they are ruler of saudi where the mosques are,so it is their job to protect it and maintain it and sorry Mr man,we don't have leader of Muslims worldwide

Ojuntana:
Lies again. So who was Catholic leader in Nigeria before Akubeze. Mention his name

u are a liar the former president of Catholic was a white ass nigga named Richard Anthony Burke but he resigned because of sexual abuse.


Now u haven't tell why both the president of Catholic and VP are igbo

Ojuntana:
That's their business. They don't speak for Christians in Nigeria. Show me igbos that have stopped going to redeemed or winners because of what he said. While your sultan is your leader for life!! Same with Saudi Prince

just like fulani sultan being leader of Muslims has nothing to do with Islam .


Where did Saudi Prince claimed he is leader of Muslim worldwide?

Ojuntana:
You are still saying the same thing. Why is Allah looking to please or satisfy Muhammad. Where did you get these tales of lies from? Where's the evidence of this lies in the Hadith or quran? Show evidence or it is taqiyya as usual. It still does not answer why Muhammad was facing Jerusalem initially? Was he a Jew? We already both agree that God of Israel was asking only Jews to worship him. So is Muhammad a Jew that he's worshipping God? What is the Jewish God's business with the qiblah that used to house meccan idols? Tell us.

mumu read what I wrote with clean mind.


U still haven't tell me where Yahweh commanded the Jews to be facing Jerusalem while worshipping!

Ojuntana:
You guys pray everyday too. Or do you mean you only pray on Friday? You say things without thinking. If only Friday is allowed for you to pray. Does that mean Allah only hears prayers on Friday
If it is so, why then do you pray five times everyday? Lol

arindin Friday is special day in Islam . And it has evidence.


Where is your evidence of going to church on Sunday?

Ojuntana:
West African languages are actually recognised by Ecowas. But the two main languages of French and English were chosen because they are the lingua Franca of member countries. But we know those languages were forced on us by colonialists.
So if you're using those to justify praying in Arabic, that means you agree that Arabic is a colonial language for you as well and it was forced on you. Now that means Allah is racist and colonialist. He hates blacks and their language. At least ECOWAS decided to use English and French officially. It wasn't forced on them. They can decide to change it anytime. Can you decide to stop praying in Arabic

Another stupid excuse

now nobody is forcing anybody again.

Why can't they be using all West Africa 130 languages instead of English and French?

Ojuntana:
It's not my fault you don't understand English oo .

how is that a worship?

So if u are not glad and rejoice nkọ?

No worshipping?

Ojuntana:
But whoever is not able is inferior as a Muslim not so. True or false.

why would he be inferior?

Ojuntana:
You didn't answer. You just wrote lies without source. I never heard of Jews taunting Muhammad because he faced Jerusalem. That's a lie!!

oh u are alive 1500 years ago?

Ojuntana:
Why are they rebuilding it if it's not important as you claim. They should just live it na. Why do you have to circle it seven times? What will you circle if it falls?

stupid question upon stupid question.

Where did I say it is not important?


I said without kaabah Muslim will still be worshipping.

Ojuntana:
You mean you're not aware qiblah used to house all the idols of Mecca?
See your life
Worshipping what you Don't know

and where are the idols now?

Ojuntana:
when did I say that? Jerusalem holds no significance for Christians. Jesus said we should worship in spirit and in truth not towards Jerusalem or pilgrimage there.

it hold no significant

Jerusalem is the place where Jesus preached, died and was resurrected. Many also see the city as central to an imminent Second Coming of Jesus.

Ojuntana:
So where is it mandatory for Catholics or don't you know what Mandatory means? Baba you too dull

many things are not mandatory in Christiandom either just like going to church.

Ojuntana:
So what is your mosque doing there? Did Allah ever ask you people to build a mosque there?

stupid question upon stupid question.


Did Yahweh or Jesus said u should build church there?

Ojuntana:
Which Jews are enemies. What's the business of Muhammad with Jews. It was Muhammad who started trouble with the Jews by claiming that they left their true religion. He wanted them to join him in headslamming which those ones refused. Next thing he started killing them. Dude is a fucking murderer.
What did the Jews in Khaybar do to him that he attacked them?
That's why he got himself poisoned
He who lives by the sword...

I would be happy to see evidence for all these


Why did your role model the crusaders massacred the Jews?

Ojuntana:
The question has been answered over and over. The worshippers being referred to are the children of Israel scattered all over.

so if the worshippers only referred to children of isreal, that means u ain't Yahweh worshippers.

Well father knows his children,he has already referred himself as God of isreal and Jews as chosen people.

Ojuntana:
We are still saying the same thing. Tinubu a Muslim needs northern Muslims' votes. So he has to choose among them because they don't see him as Muslim enough. Awolowo did not choose igbo because he's Christian. He chose igbo because he already knew the North will be difficult to penetrate. Tinubu on the other hand has to forgo the nothern and southern Christians just to please the northern Muslims who think he's arne

mumu politics ain't working like that.

And the same north had more vote for awolowo than the east.

Tinubu need their vote just like obi need their vote,if they born obi well,tell him to chose northern Christians as VP and see if he will see massive vote.

Zik need northern Christians vote and he chose Christian northerner as vice.

Ojuntana:
Since you're now swearing, swear than northern Muslims'don't see you Yoruba Muslim as inferior. Swear that northern Muslims don't call Southern Muslims Arne.

how is that has to do with Islam?

there are churches that black are not allowed in South Africa,so that has to do with Christianity?

Why did kanu and his children followers hate Yoruba pastors?

Ojuntana:
If Tinubu needs their votes, why should he have to choose a Muslim from the North and alienate both nothern and southern Christians when he is already a Muslim. Should the northern Muslims not identify with him just as southern Christians have identified with the northern Christians? Why should they tell him to choose another Muslim if they regard his being a Muslim.

Why I'm I even answering your mumu question?

Go and ask tinubu

Ojuntana:
Why can't he if he is next. Is there an age limit to becoming sultan? Stop lying. You're making it look as if you Yoruba Muslims say down and voted for sultan to be the leader of all Muslims in Nigeria. It's not so the whole thing was decided by the North and you guys were just coopted into it like subordinates. And that's how it is still today!

maybe in your household,six years old can became head and u are crying as if only Yoruba are Muslims in Nigeria.

Since u are asking stupid question concerning ethnicity and race,then I would be asking I The same.


Why is it that only white people that are becoming pope of Vatican?


Why not black?

Pope of Vatican is automatically the leaders of all Catholic Churches In world.

Ojuntana:
So what are you saying? Are you not confirming what I said? Or you're confused again.

your dumbass supposed Know that the nah I put in front means I disagree.

Kaigama wasn't Catholics president

And why the president and VP are igbo?

Ojuntana:
Speaking of religion and trabalism,do u know
Kanu is not a Christian so he can't speak to or for Christians. There are churches owned by igbo pastors in Yoruba land and they have Yoruba worshippers. As a matter of fact, both Anglican and Methodist are headed by Igbo presently. So Kanu can't speak for Igbo Christians since he's a Jew.

heheehehe

And u think his followers that are Christians won't follow what he said? so pathetic.


Even many of his Christians IPOB agreed with him.

Ojuntana:
You did not give any reason. You only said you were commanded to. You also did not give reason Muhammad was facing Jerusalem before and why he turned to Mecca.

I gave reason and verse and I'm sure u saw it.

Ojuntana:
Good. I have bolded the reason given by the angel (s) to Muhammad. They wanted him to be pleased. May I now ask why Allah wanted to please Muhammad. I thought Muhammad is the one worshipping Allah. Why is Allah now looking to please Muhammad? Still you have not answered the second question. Why was Muhammad praying towards Jerusalem?

the Arabic there is تَرْضَىٰهَا
It means that will please or satisfy you.

Not that Allah is looking to please him.



Number 2
In Makkah before the immigration to Madinah, Muslims were commanded to face Jerusalem in their prayer. This was the first Qibla that Muslims faced during the salah.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and the Companions submitted to the command of Allah.

Since Jerusalem is north of Makkah, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to stand south of the Kabah in his prayers so that he could face both the Kabah and Al-Aqsa Mosque.

That was impossible, however, in Madinah because Madinah is located in the north of Makkah and south of Jerusalem.

After immigrating to Madinah, the Muslims continued to face Jerusalem for more 16 or 17 months. The Jews of Madinah rejoiced the fact that the Prophet had to take their sacred city as a Qibla. They used this to spread doubts about the validity of Islam.

In the meantime, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to look up to heaven waiting eagerly for a command to face the Kabah.

Finally, after about 16 months in Madinah, Allah commanded Muslims to face the Kabah in their prayer.

Ojuntana:
Where is it written that you are you do all those so you won't be disunited. Quran verse you quoted was not referring to fasting or Hajj or zakat or praying in one direction. So look for the verse that explains why you have to all face Mecca. And also what covenant is being talked about?

U and all these your yeye question


We follow Allah and his prophet.


So u mean we should be confused like u Christians, where some go to church on Saturday and some go Thursday?


Some use 66 books while some use 73

Ojuntana:
Go and read 2chronicles and Leviticus. I already gave you the chapters.
That's irrelevant. I already proved that you're lying. Stop lying.

I read and I dont see where Yahweh commanded the isrealites to be facing Jerusalem while praying, Maybe u the knower of Bible should post it here and let me see it.


Number 2

Why can't we be using all west African languages in ecowas,i see u ignore that question.

Ojuntana:
Another silly question. Be glad in the Lord and rejoice. So says the Bible.

hehehehe so it is silly when it comes to u but make sense when u ask me what pertains to it

And be glad in the Lord and rejoice

How is that a worship?

Ojuntana:
Who said no problem. You? Every Muslim is expected to make the journey at least once in their life to be accepted as a full Muslim.

that is Your problem, twisting questions u know nothing about and sh.it.

If u can't afford it, maybe in Money or health, then no problem.


Pilgrimage to this House(Hajj)is an obligation by Allah upon whoever is able among the people.

Qur'an 3:97

Ojuntana:
None of this answers the question. Why was he facing Jerusalem before and why did Allah tell him to change. Can't you just give simple reasons?

your question is above,take it or leave it

Ojuntana:
That's a lie. How will you do Hajj if kaabah is destroyed? If it's not so, why did SA procure billions of dollars to protect it. Same place that used to house idols. You guys are idol worshippers

Cant another be built?

Or u think it is still the same like that of over 2000 years ago?


Idols worshipping?

Where did u see idols?

Ojuntana:
So? Jerusalem is not a sacred City to Christians like Mecca is to Muslims. Christians only go there for sightseeing. Going there or not is not mandatory.

ain't nobody say it is not,but u are acting as if that Jerusalem is Christian majority and enclave.


Just like going to church on Sunday, dancing and clapping is not mandatory

Ojuntana:
Which Catholic pilgrimage? There's nothing like that.

Roman Catholics undertake the pilgrimage to Rome in order to be close to the centre of their faith. It is important to the pilgrim to be close to the Pope, his message and to see and worship at the site which marks the death of the first Pope, Saint Peter.

Ojuntana:
Is that why Muslims destroyed the temple and built a mosque there? Is that why Muhammad went about killing Jews and enslaving their women and children?

why lying unto the Muslims?


Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylon destroyed the first and Roman destroy the second.



Prophet Muhammed (saw) fought the Jews that are enemies, they allied with The pagans of Mecca,the other enemies and I don't see where u got your lie that he killed their children and women, that sounds like what Yahweh used to do.



Now the Jews that your role models, the crusaders killed, were they enemies.?

Ojuntana:
You have started with your dumb behavior. Where did I mention Aaron? I said Aaron's line Eliezer is Aaron's son.

I think I understand your question now. Chai see how Muhammad has messed with your head such that if you see virgin you get an erection
Maybe Eli was also sleeping with Samuel when he was handed over to him
So just because Muhammad was keeping women as sex slaves you think same applies here
Well sorry not so. Those people were to serve in the house if God and the house of the priests not as sex slaves. Chai!! Muslims and sex

well Aaron's line or not,that ain't part of what we are talking about.

U shot yourself again

Evidence of that from the Bible that those virgins would be serving in Lord house.


Number 2 are u saying Yahweh don't commanded sex slavery?

Ojuntana:
You have not answered any. Just quoting irrelevance. Why did Muhammad pray towards Jerusalem?
Why did he start facing Mecca
Why do you have to face Mecca too
Why must you pray in Arabic
Why was a prophet keeping women as sex slaves and encouraging his followers to do likewise (This is a new one)

I've already answered all those now let me answer the bolded.

Where did he encourage sex slavery and encourage his followers to do so?



Are u saying Yahweh never encourage sex slavery?



My question that u ignore.

Yahweh accept Jesus sacrifice or not?

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