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Ojuntana:
What does Michael have to do with this?

I think u edited the word I quoted,that is why I asked that question.

Ojuntana:
Ask Muhammad who said Mary is Aaron's sister

Sister not sister sister.

Ojuntana:
It was a vision and a voice came from heaven.

and what makes u think it is Angel?

Ojuntana:
Is that not the same thing that Muhammad claimed to hear and you all call revelation? If you doubt that how then do you accept that of Muhammad?

No.

Ortomatic the failure ass nigga!

Ojuntana:
Bethlehem is the city of David. Anyone from there is from David's lineage.

arindin,is like saying anybody from Oyo must be lineage of alaafin



U ain't making sense at all.

Where did u even see the rubbish u are spewing?

Ojuntana:
If you don't know how Jews count their genealogy go and find out.

Mr counter, how do they count it?

Ojuntana:
Anyway, since she's from Bethlehem, she can't be sister to Aaron as your Quran points out.

and what makes your dumb ass think the sister there is blood sister?


And pathetic thing is u are lying upon lies, where is evidence that Mary was from Bethlehem or was born there?

Ojuntana:
Her genealogy is in Luke. I can't read it out for you cause your badly copied Quran already filled your head with lies.

nah nigga im learning from u, quote the verse out where her geneology was stated.

Ojuntana:
It's obvious it was a mistake. The copycat mistook Miriam sister of Aaron for Mary mother of Jesus which is why he took Miriam's father's name for Mary's.

the lies of Jews was exposed in the Qur'an

Ojuntana:
Mary's father's name is Hiel. It's in Luke 3.
Quran copycats mixed both up due to their poor knowledge of both characters. It is also obvious that a lot of the so-called revelations in the Quran are actually hearsay which were prevalent in that time about Jewish history. It is for example why Quran claims that Jesus was not crucified but someone else was used to replace him on the cross. It's one of the Jewish apologetics he adopted.

quote it out where Mary father was called hiel In the Bible.

Ojuntana:
Do you then imply that both Miriam and Mary's fathers have same name?

in Islamic perspective I don't know cos Qur'an never mentioned name of Musa sister or name of their father just like Bible never mentioned name of Mary's father.

Ojuntana:
It's not the same and the evidence is there in Matthew. Jacob father of Joseph in OT has Isaac as his father while Jacob father of Joseph in NT has Eliezer as his father. Except you mean Isaac, a well known character in OT also bears Eliezer

ok

Explain why Joseph the carpenter was called son of David.

Ojuntana:
Lol. So Allah is now same with Jibreel? I thought Allah had no other name than Allah?

can't Yahweh send Micheal to deliver a message again?

Ojuntana:
Never!! Yahweh does not plagiarize

and Allah does?

Ojuntana:
The verse said it was a vision and he heard a voice from heaven. It's definitely an angel that speaks to one from heaven in a vision don't you agree

and u now concluded it was angel the fact that the verse never said it was an angel

Ojuntana:
Not if. You MUST drink camel urine else you're not a good Muslim. A good Muslim follows the sunnah and hadith of the prophet.
Show me picture of people drinking a chilled glass of horse urine.

Edo culture.

shukẹ

Ojuntana:
Give evidence that Allah made all laws in the Quran.

Cos Quran is his word.

Ojuntana:
The Quran was not given by Allah. So how can you now claim that the laws there are from Allah? Allah himself never spoke in the Quran.

oh Qur'an was giving by Yahweh then.

Ojuntana:
Acts 10:15

where did the verse make mention of angel talking there?

Ojuntana:
Good so why have you not been drinking camel's urine as medicine you disobedient child? You should be flogged for disobeying the prophet!!

and if I drink it then what happened?

And u are doing as if they Don't use animal urine as drug


Horse urine is part of what they make a drug called premarin.

Ojuntana:
Which all over the world is that? I'm not aware in my culture of drinking urine o

what culture?

Ojuntana:
She's a Bethlehemite and Bethlehem is the town of David.

so because she was Bethlehemite make her automatically a lineage of David?

Be deceving yourself there.

Ojuntana:
Read Luke 3 for her genealogy.

read it out for me and show me where her geneology was mentioned.

Ojuntana:
Stay on the topic. Why did Quran mix Mary mother of Jesus with Miriam sister of Aaron and Moses? Did the Angel make a mistake here? Or it's Muhammad who misheard?

when did Quran tell that Miriam of B
OT and Mary are same thing?

Ojuntana:
Note that he then went and called Mary's father Imran which is the name of Moses, Aaron and Miriam's father.

nigga,let your Bible story be to u and let my Qur'anic story be to me.

Ojuntana:
So if Quran is the truth and the Bible was lying about the father of Moses, Aaron and Miriam, can you give us the name of their father different from Imran according to the "truthful" Quran?

Qur'an never mentioned the name of father of Musa and Aaron just like Bible never mentioned the name of Mary's father's name.


And why u acting as if the name amran is not common among the Jews?


U are the one that told me that the Jacob mentioned as father of Joseph the carpenter wasn't the same as Joseph of Egypt,so why u acting as if multiple people can't bear same name?

Ojuntana:
Who made all the laws in the Quran? Was it not an angel? Did Muhammad ever hear directly from Allah? So what problem do you have with Angel giving laws?

Allah made all laws in Qur'an.

I asked question and u did as if u don't see it.

Evidence that angel made the law in act of apostle.

Ojuntana:
Is it in the hadith or not? All this Arab medicine na turenchi.
The prophet recommended it or not? Or do you mean the prophet's recommendations are only for Arabs?

it is Sahih Hadith and the prophet recommended it,so what happened?

Drinking or local application of human or animal urine for medicinal purposes has been practiced all over the world for millennia

Ojuntana:
Keep quiet there with your taqiyya.
Son of David refers to the fact that David is his patriarch. The patriarchal system has stays been used to identify people since time immemorial even up to now.

so u know that and your dumbass refused to accept that of Mary.

Ojuntana:
Jacob referred to in Matthew 1:16 is different from Jacob of Genesis. That Jacob has Eliezer as his father and Jacob of Genesis has Isaac as his father.

keep deceiving yourself there
Luke 3:23 Even called him son of Eli not Jacob

Ojuntana:
And for your information, Mary is of the bloodline of David so why wasn't she referred to as daughter of David but sister of Aaron?

Which David?

No be only David,put davido join.

Where is the evidence she is the bloodline of David?

Ojuntana:
When did sisterhood become a means of identify genealogy? Can you give other examples from the Quran of such genealogy through sisterhood?

that is how they have been using it in the olden day just like how Joseph the carpenter is son of David.

Ojuntana:
Is it not obvious that Muhammad will plagiarizing got confused and misinterpreted Mary mother of Jesus to be one and the same with Miriam sister of Aaron?

Qur'an came to unveil the lies of the unknown writers.

Ojuntana:
Is it a coincidence that he misspelt Mary as Maryam when it is obvious Miriam is not mentioned at all in the quran? For your information, Mary"s father in the quran is Imran while Miriam and Moses father in the Bible is Amram.

hehehe shukẹ

U feel tell me the father of Mary in OT?

Ojuntana:
It is thus obvious that Muhammad plagiarized the OT and couldn't even do so competently.

it is obvious all Muhammed came to unveil all the lies.

luluman:
Stop being dumb like I said. Leave us with our bible and its teachings you can try to change idol worshipping or Islam.

What a dumbass nigga.

Ojuntana:
An Angel.

angel.

Yahweh dey make law,angel too dey make law.

Who dash monkey banana?

Plus give me evidence where angel could commanded that pork should be eaten.

Ojuntana:
So you mean the hadith on camel's urine is for Arabs only?

arindin what I meant is that it is medicine common among the arab.

It is used to cure certain diseases.

Ojuntana:
Hold on. What am I reading in the bolded here?
You guys believe Mary the mother of Jesus was same with Miriam sister of Aaron and Moses?

Compton11, Antichristian Come thou and see what I saw in the hilly Quran

who told u na Bible Miriam of Moses and Aaron?

In the olden days,It was common to use "sister of" or "son of" to refer to people, especially if the people they referred them to are righteous people,that was the reason why Mary was called sister of Aaron there plus Mary is related to Aaron through Levites and u are doing as if the same isn't in the Bible.

In Matthew 1:20, Joseph the carpenter was called son of David.


In Matthew 1:16, Jacob was called the father of Joseph the carpenter again.

And also Jesus was called son of David in Matthew 21:9 and in many other verse


And NB my nigga ojutana, Miriam or whatever wasn't recorded as biology sister to Moses and Aaron in the Qur'an.

Ojuntana:
Lol. You defend Deuteronomy but despise Acts. Is it not obvious to you already that Muhammad plagiarized the OT Bible to form his so-called revelations?

u despise act.

Who made the act law?

Ojuntana:
What about Camel urine? Is it halal or haram?

it is medicine for Arab,how is it Haram?

luluman:
See mumu, if you want to quote bible go to bible school and understand it not just pick one line & breathe on it. The new testament allows us to eat all meat.

who be this dumbass nigga?

Eat all meat,can u eat human and donkey meat then?


When Yahweh made a commandment,u are here quoting old testament,did Jesus came to abolish the old law?

kolarov93:
Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.
Act 10:9

the verse u quoted is wrong plus where did God made pig clean?

Come and see how Protestants Christians would be saying if pork is Haram,then why did Allah created it.

Nigga! not all created animals are for eaten,plus pig can be used for other things like it's leather for bag,shoes and some other things,and it isn't Haram for Muslims to used these things except it is Haram to eat it's meat.





Deuteronomy 14:8

The pig, because it divides the hoof but does not chew the cud, it is unclean for you. You shall not eat any of their flesh nor touch their carcasses.

walkbrazil4k:
You have the IQ of a baby in diapers, but you said bahia never had a black mayor, I broke that lie and now you come up with another BS, little kid I am done with you.

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One black mayor of one year in a majority black City.

Chai,u dumb AF

Prozico22:
for APC to bring muslim muslim that why i called them failure

they haven't even win,u don they judge

He should just vote Obi and stop crying!

Prozico22:
APC is a failure

nah nigga!


Human be d problem,no be party

Ayodekfarms:
If you can't admit it that APChit is fake, your write-up is fake, you're also fake.

what a nigga!


Ortom was failure in APC and join PDP still failure.

DenreleDave:


Firstly, Apc is a failure and even Buhari knows that.... Personally, in this coming election, I will vote nobody.....

Igbos want their own and made him a saint.. They claim he is not for Igbo

apc is not a failure, buhari is failure.

Folafikemii:
They are all fake

in your d**bass brain.

walkbrazil4k:
Leave that ignorant little boy,we have alot of them on Nairaland most times I just choose to ignore them, here is the profile of a black Salvadorian mayor.

u dumb.

He was appointed then for 1 year before replace by another white man keep deceiving yourself


And since then,as there ever be a black mayor?
and pls also show me first black ever governor of Bahia.

Samishiba:
Brazil is more classist than racist. For example if a rich black Brazil kill a person are sentenced to private arrest. If a poor black Brazil kill a person are condmened to 30 years in jail without parole. If you have money to corrupt the people all doors open to you.

they classist cos the black rich are sellout too

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Ojuntana:
Holy spirit does not answer stupid questions from terrorists

ain't Holy spirit answer what is hidden from us?

Ojuntana:
I already provided evidence that hajj and circumambulation are from idolatry. Christmas tree is secular. Or do you see Christmas tree in the Bible? How many Christians have Christmas tree in their houses. Prove that worshipping on sunday is from idolatrous practice and explain how a victim of human sacrifice is alive. If you accuse me of killing someone and I present the person alive, does your charge stand?

the Hajj and circumabulation that already existed during the time of Abraham ,what a joke .

And u lie about Christmas tree being secular,European pagans were largely responsible for dressing their homes with the branches of evergreen fir trees in order to bring color and light into their dull winters


Pagans already worship sun on Sunday before Roman hijacked it

Ojuntana:
Children from different mothers are not brothers dummy. They are half-brothers at best.

mumu ain't they siblings?

Ojuntana:
Haggar was a slave and died a slave. She gave birth to Ishmael as a slave. The children of Israel got their freedom so how do you call people who got freed from slavery slaves? You always come across as dull in your comparisons.

she Left for Mecca and live freely there until her death


Mumu millions of children isrealites died during the 500 years suffering,they died in slavery.those are Jesus ancestors

Ojuntana:
Holy spirit does not answer questions from terrorists

Yeye holy spirit

Ẹmi kurekure

Ojuntana:
Don't blame me for your poor understanding of English that is so visible

this ain't going to slide

Not only Yahweh allowed sex slavery,he also allowed army to keep women from for themselves

Ojuntana:
He did? Tell the dowry he paid

four thousand dinar to her fathers

Ojuntana:
Moses, Samuel and Solomon never killed people and inherit their wives.

When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion. (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)


As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

Be living in delusion

Where do u think all Solomon 300 concubine were From?


And well Samuel was a war criminal for killing the women and children


While Moses instructed his army to kill non Virgins girls and and spared the virgins for themselves

Ojuntana:
Moses had only one wife. Same with Samuel while Solomon never stole anyone's wife like your Muhammad was known for

Moses married two wife


Samuel was woman haters,cos he ordered them to be destroy


Why did u think Solomon got all the 300 concubine?