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elampiro:
Who doesnt know whoscored is independednt from opta? Something I pointed out long ago.

Passing has nothing to do with ball control. You lack football analytically skills. If passing had something to do with it, then CR7 would have one of the best pass percentage in the world. Sometimes he comes out of a match with 67% pass accuracy and still wins the MOTM.

Cleverley has a high pass accuracy, does it mean he has good first touch?

The fact that Rooney made more key passes tells you alot that Berba was only making safe passes.

leggo:
So elampiro asked a question - if Mata's pass to Rooney is a first touch, why then is Rooney's goal against City not? You all conveniently scraped over that. Elampiro you have won this round.

elampiro:
Rooney always ranked higher than Berbatov on whoscored and FIFA.

Opta says Rooney has a better ball control. Control involves basically first touch and secondly, retaining possession.

The whole universe is laughing at you. We are talking stats not gifs. Berba has countless first touch miscontrols that should have set him one vs one with goalkeeper

elampiro:
Show me any season Berbatov had more opta scores than Rooney?

Yet he never got into FIFA known strikers. Berbatov is renowned for scoring against weak teams and weak footballing countres. Rooney has made FIFA LIST AS BEST NUMBER 9 IN THE WORLD.

elampiro:
You are the illiterate here. Opta never define unsuccessful touch as 'subsequent' touches. Subsequent touches will most likely result in dispossession and unsuccessfull take-on.

elampiro:
Enlighten yourself further. You need education.


OPTA:Tackle - Unsuccessful Take-on/Dispossessed . 

A tackle is awarded if a player wins the ball from another player who is in possession. If he is attempting to beat the tackler, the other player will get an unsuccessful Take-on. If he is in possession but not attempting to "beat" his man, then he will get a dispossessed.

RVP had an unsuccessful take on. Not unsuccessful touch.


Unsuccessful touch is basically about first touch. Any further activity has to do more with dispossessed and unsuccessful take on.

Cc Nihilist.

elampiro:
From your dream and imagination.

OPTA has spoken. Rooney is above all of them in ball control. Only Mata and Di Maria are better.

elampiro:
From your dream and imagination.

OPTA has spoken. Rooney is above all of them in ball control. Only Mata and Di Maria are better.

Did Berba win EPL player of the season?
Did he win UCL trophy?
Has he played UCL final?
Has he won golden boot in world club cup?
Has he won golden ball in world club bal?
Has he was UCL highest Assist of the season?

elampiro:
How many UCL goals did Berba score for us in 4 years?

elampiro:
Ball control:
Rooney >>> Berbatov, Falcao and RVP. - OPTA
I will be back much later.

elampiro:
Bebrbaov was hiding from the ball in heat zone. That's why he had less number of passes than Rooney. Yet he was having poor control of the ball.

Nihilist:
Your definition is inadequate in this case because it fails to recognise that First Touch is a unique skill on its own.
Short pass and Long pass are both passes but they are defined separately.
First touch is a touch yes, but it's also an individual skill.

elampiro:
Toroise
I gave you two seasons. You manage to bring one. Rooney won again.

Nihiist is on his own defending his earlier comments

elampiro:
It's a flawless victory. You told us Rooney gets dispossessed more than anyone in the world. I brought stats to defea you.
You said Rooney has no first touch, I brought unsuccessful touches to defeat. You are here sending gif and theory.

Nihilist:
Oga first touch is different to the subsequent touches.

1st touch is the initial control when a player gets the ball, the other touches you're talking about are related to dribbles

Berbatov can trap a 50 yard cross field ball dead 10 out of 10 times, but may also subsequently give the ball away 10 out 10 times with his second touch.

2 different things bro

elampiro:
The argument is about possession lost. That was the genesis. They said Rooney losses possession any how.
The unsuccessful touch is the best to measure our argument. I includes first touch and other touches.
This is a flawless victory for me. Coogar needs education.

elampiro:
' Where there is a mis-control we award an Unsuccessful touch.' - OPTA

And Berbatov have more miscontrols per minutes payed than Rooney. Same with Falcao and RVP. They have more miscontrols than Rooney in every parameter.
Stats are facts. Remember. Yori yori.

Odunharry:
elampiro just dey argue with himself i swear...he has missed d whole point of discussion

In other news,Luke Shaw expected to be fit to face Southampton

cao:
I see someone's using Virgin Media.

elampiro:
Total passes to number of times dispossed.
Rooney 845 passes........ dispossessed 32 times
Falcao 186 passes.......... dispossessed 22 times
Van Persie 663 passes..... dispossessed 31 times
Hahahaha. The fact are coming out. Guys who hardly see the ball get more dispossessed.

elampiro:
Useless stat. Put this in relation to number of touches and minutes played. I will give details tomorrow. You will cry for Falcao, RVP and Young

Also, what about recovery? A player who does much is more likely o make error. Rooney scores, assists, tackle, battle in duels, clear from the box etc. While RVP touches the balll 11 times in a match, how will his errors be much?

Odunharry:
Cambridge vs Manutd
FA Cup

kr0ne:
Says Coogar. I've watched a couple of his brawls and I liked none. The wigger's delivery is just so annoying (I think that should be the major criterion in audio rap appealing to the audience - delivery). He just screams and stamps his legs. I no dey bother listen to his lyrics self

elampiro:
You don't know the difference between shots and passes? Does Young and Herrera also operate as strikers? If anything, Rooney has played as a striker and number 10. Why is Valencia doing well and RVP, Young and Falcao are woeful?

So you cannot do the percentage accuracy? The error rate is depended on how many times you touch the ball. Rooney is better than many of our players is first touch and short passes.

Young and Falcao are woeful. RVP is abysmal.

Itsflame:
Please I need female advice or better still an advice from a male folk who understands.
I just want to know how you cope being the only girl in the midst of guys in the house; handling the house chores especially cooking(have to cook for them to eat each time they feel hungry and If I don't do it I will become a bad person to them). It's beginning to weigh me down. A family of 5, advice pls.

parrotibaba:
@dopejemi n coogar d truth still stands ,Rooney does not have an abysmal first touch n please not everybody has d "berbatov magnet first touch" (according to coogar) ...his first touches are good ,period! u can argue all u want

@coogar I want no part in ur "post segregating" arguments ,it's it's boring actually ,case closed

dopeJemi:
Use my logic

Macrophage:
Na 9ja I dey o. Add more speed from where na? Are you on ps3? Add me. receptor442. What's your id?

parrotibaba:
dats BS ,it's not concrete evidence dat his first touch is abysmal ,I just gave u one instance n another one d same season was his second goal against westham in a 4-2 win ,Valencia crossed d ball into d area n wazza's first touch was class,it took him away from his marker n bang!!!

elampiro:
Short passes this season:
Rooney 644 accurate short passes to 99 inaccurate
Fellaini 455- 64
Young 347- 62
Di Maria 318 -61
RVP 304-52
Herrera 396- 49
Yet they said Rooney is worst in short passes.

elampiro:
Short passes this season:
Rooney 644 accurate short passes to 99 inaccurate
Fellaini 455- 64
Young 347- 62
Di Maria 318 -61
RVP 304-52
Herrera 396- 49
Yet they said Rooney is worst in short passes.

Macrophage:
With internet speeds above 5Mbps, I shouldn't be experiencing any lag-related issues.

parrotibaba:
Enough of this Rooney criticism, Wayne Rooney has a great first touch, d Manutd vs Aston villa 2010/2011 season comes to mind ,he scored two goals in a 3-1 win ,his first goal in particular was wonderful, a goal kick from van der sar was plucked out of d air by wazza n with dat touch he rifled home a thunderous volley ...u guys r speaking like new man united fans ,go back to d days of cr7 at manutd n watch d clips ,den maybe dis argument won't hold

RuuDie:
Thunder must surely fire you for making mockery of all the sweat of poor naija teachers have invested for so many years to make this your block-head useful to society. See the kain gibberish that comes out of your mouth sef, you no dey sorry for yourself ni!?

Nihilist:
Oboy those Berbatov Gifs

Don't let that man near your girlfriend o....Handshake lasan fit get your girl in the mood

adebayo201:
that was a classic one. One of it kind.

ChristineC:
Holy Heaven!