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dayokanu: Whats your team of the tournament till date

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Ibime: If una no want Nani, make una send am come Stamford Bridge.

Nani is the best winger in Epl, comparable only to Valencia.

And who said Nani is copying Ronaldo? All Portuguese wingers are modelled on Luis Figo, thats why they play that way.

don't mind the nani bashers.....they would rather have stewart downing(0 goals + 0 assists) in
37 league appearances. nani is one of the best players in united. his unpredictability is a
plus for our attacking football. how he gets compared to ronaldo makes me laugh. i am yet
to see any man city fan that has compared aguero to messi.....

fergie would be [color=#000000]s[/color]tupid to let nani go. if nani wants a bump in his wages, he
should have it. ashley young is on 120k per week, nani is on 90k per week. is young better than nani?
the replacement(james rodriguez, porto fc) the media are touting is a rookie and the columbian is not
better than nani.

dayokanu: Persie definitely has been one of the worst players of the tournament

worse than podolski? worse than muller?
you are a troglodyte!

[quote author=kay_pumpin]So you feel Welbeck did that on purpose? Not to take away from his performances in this tourney(he's been one of the bright spark in England's dire team),but i make bold to say he was trying to control that ball and even felt he lost it.

Ashley Young and Milner though,i wonder why Woy persist with them.Can't wait for England to meet Spain,i want this whole noise about their "effectiveness" rubbished quickly.[/quote]he's scored goals like that plenty of times for united reserves.
it was done on purpose...look at his eyes and how his gaze
followed the ball. if he lost control, he would be looking
the wrong way, looking for where the ball went...

that was a deft application...if it was dennis bergkamp that did it,
we would say it's ingenuity, but because a no-mark manchester born
negro did it, it has to be a fluke......
welbeck has been a revelation in this tourney...his movement, his
haranguing of defenders and passing stats have been world class.

chic2pimp: A draw would have been a fair result to the old England set up not this current one.
Hodgson has instilled two things no other Non English Manager coulda done....PASSION and PRIDE in wearing the Jersey !!!.
England were dire because they choose to sit back and defend their lead. And they duly paid for it.
It seems Walcott is most certain to start the next game with Young the most likely to give way. Very unlikely to drop Milner.

i doubt it...
walcott's awakening is a false dawn...we have seen it all before.
he's a good impact sub....he has pace to burn against tired legs
and by then, the game would be stretched to afford him the space
to run into. start walcott in a match and watch him vaporise into
anonymity.

rooney wld play behind welbeck....young and oxdale would start
with walcott/milner resting their corns on the bench.....
andy caroll is a plank. apart from the well taken goal, he was anonymous.
caroll makes his team mates lazy. once he's on the pitch, everyone hoofs
it to him.

In my opinion the FA made the right choice pickin the more tactically adept Woy over the Gung ho Harry.
I see him reverting back to his more favoured 4-5-1 come the knock out stages to make them that wee bit tighter than they were today.
To be fair to JT and Lescott,they've never and prob would never face a pair of skilful 6"5 forwards again so they can be excused a bit.
Stevie G is a predictable twunt ........He could literally see 2moro's headlines in his head(Captain Marvellous Completes England's Fighbtack) and decided to steal Alex's thunder. Kudos to him though for his performance on the night. He led by example yet again.
2 games, 2 assists .What else could you ask of your talismanic Captain?

the knock out stage should start already....

RuuDie: skill, talent and quality - nucca pu'leeeze, that dude only just barely knows how to run, turn and kick a ball; do not bestow on him more endearing qualities than he has or deserves!

Time and opportunity we can scarcely afford in the face of Blue Moon rising and The Roman Revolution, even Spurs and Newcastle sef dey threaten. . .how much of the same patience, time and opportunity was given Manucho, Mame, Rossi and Frazier Campbell!!? The last two IMHO, were and still are light years better than DW. How much of it is being given Chicharito!!? After how many years of sitting at the feet and being weaned by masters of the game, OT legends; we're still waiting for the development. His fa'da last time I checked, we are still eligible for Carling Cup games, the DW developmental experiment can be carried out there forever if they like. . . .and if SAF insists on still playing DW in the first-team, his fa'da too

UTD legend my butt-crack the day he becomes that, I revert back to supporting 3Sc and BCC Lions!

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ruudie, any comment?

Emperoh: I felt like smashing his head against the coal tar of Lagos Ibadan highway!!
I guess England's spirit was the deciding factor. Sweden didn't even come to the party
Boring game though. Both teams hoofing the ball

scott parker is so dire i feel ashamed of the premier league.
how many times did he give the ball away?

chic2pimp: Coogar aka Nostradamus Incarnated

How are your predictions going thus far?...
I thought you said Sweden would MASH England
I must have missed the part where Larsson copped a brace and Elmander a hatrick

you're not serious....
to be fair, a draw was probably the right result.
england were dire in the second half until walcott
was introduced to inject some pace...

still fair play to woy hodgson for having plan b....
sweden played their part and they really sodomized england
aerially. the over-hyped terry/lescott axis was busted tonight...
and jeeez, stevie gerrard is a [color=#000000]b[/color]astard, isn't it? stealing
oxdale-chamberlain's shine is just as bad as a racial slur against him.

Ibime: No mind Nateevs.
20 goals ke.
Na that one we go chop?
Sturridge can GUARANTEE Chelsea 20-25 goals if played in no 9 position and Lukaku would guarantee 20 goals.

sturridge cannot....stop blaspheming!
lukaku at this level is worse than bebe....

What are we paying Torres for?
Oga Lamps cops 20 goals and close to 20 assists for eons, yet Nateevs is/was his number 1 hater.

20 goals/20 assists with at least 40% of those from set-pieces.
any r[color=#000000]e[/color]tard can score from 12 yards. manuel neuer does that for bayern!
make torres the penalty taker, the freekick specialist and let's see
if he won't score 30 goals per season.

Why should Torres score only 20 goals in a close-to-60 game season?

how many starts would he get in a 60-game season?

Anything less than 30 goals for Torres is ABJECT FAILURE!

This is factoring

(a.) His price
(b.) The fact he is not tactically robust and can only play one way (through ball) and doesnt help his midfielders game
(c.) The sheer amount of times he loses the ball.

Infact, anything less than 35 goals is failure cos dude needs to repay 18 wasted months of copping £175k per week to do nothing.

how many times did drogba score 30 goals in his 8 seasons at chelsea? twice!
ibime, you are a phat philandering phool!

ritchboy: Where were Busi/Alonso at the last Euros? Who won? Let's even forget Busquets sef as he wasn't a first teamer then, Alonso was selling kpoff kpoff from bench while Cesc/Xavi/Senna were the ones running things from the middle, now all of a sudden he's "indispensable" simply because the new coach fancies him, abeggiiii!

that era was different. no one took spain seriously.
they had won nothing until then....by the time the world realized what an outstanding
team they were, they had beaten germany in the final.

Of all the nailed-on starters at World Cup 2010, Alonso was probably Spain's worst performer!!

i agree ....
even right now, some of his passes are wayward but he does a job. he can sit there
for 90 mins and do his job without having the temptation to burst forward and leave
his position. fabregas/xavi in that role would get carried away cos they are too
attack-minded. he's the john o'shea of the team....not as talented as the others
but he is averagely consistent.

The "double pivot" has already failed to beat the only decent team they've played, Ireland are the worst team at the Euros. Netherlands'(the other team you cited) "double pivot" has also flopped.

that was because they did not play a genuine striker in the first game.
when torres came on, spain created more chances in that 15 mins more
than they did for the first 75 mins...and had torres been more clinical,
spain woulda copped 6 points by now.

for holland, the system should have worked...profligacy cost them...
so it's not a system error but a component error. van persie missed
sitters. i mean golden sitters - it's not like holland didn't create
golden scoring chances....

Note that I'm not against the double pivot, I'm against fielding players who can't adequately support their center forward(Xavi/Sneijder) in the hole.

so you don't think sneijder and xavi can adequately support their centre-fowards?
do you know the number of key-passes the duo have created in this tourney so far?

Also note having a "feeling" Spain will flop is very different from "predicting" Spain will flop, Obviously they're still favorites along with Germany irrespective of what formation they deploy.

feeling is prediction, my dear old friend....
if they had flopped, you would be feeling like nostradamus now that you
said it before it happened.

ritchboy: Oh! No biggie if a midfielder scores "from a CF position" but whenever a CF called Torres scores "from a CF position" you want to kill cows to commemorate his achievement

any [i]i[/i]diot playing that role for spain would score....fabregas is an attacking midfielder...
so it's like scholes, ozil, sneijder, rooney, lampard, gerrard, van der vaart, etc scoring
from that position...

My "feeling" still beats your "predictions"
Ireland are shyte anyways, they woulda won with my hamster playing center forward. Let's see how they fare against better teams. They've already failed to beat Italy.

your feelings wanted one of busi/alonso benched so cesc can play...
i then told you that's impossible at this level...the indispensables
are busi + xavi + iniesta + alonso. cesc would have to be on the bench
or cop a forward role. you then said if they did that, spain would flop...

spain did it and they should be 6 points clear but for torres' profligacy
in the first game against italy or because their gaffer tried to play god!
spain would only get better n better...their world cup run is poorer than this
cos they lost their first game to switzerland but kicked on from then on.

if torres/llorente stay in form, spain would murder any team in europe...easy peasy lemon squeezy!

nateevs: You should desist from writing discourteous things like these. There are no grounds under which you should address people in this manner even if their views are completely opposite of yours.

don't mind dayokanu....
he's just lost his $500 stake that torres would not score
in this tourney. the silverback ape is very bitter
nando has shut him up.....

nateevs: Find the quote.

you sef get time.....it's actually possible for
joe cole to be better than schweini 3 yrs ago...
torres was better than van persie 3 yrs ago by light years...

no one would argue such these days. players peak and drop form.
ibime is just a raving Arrow that would say anything to score
cheap brownie points. rio was better than kompany 3 yrs ago...

but today, we know that statement won't be correct!

ritchboy: Focusing too much on not giving the ball away is what ruined Barca against Chelsea. Managers have become more adept at playing possession teams. In fact i have a strong feeling Spain will be one of the biggest flops at the Euros with their nonsense formation.

ritchboy, can you discuss this strong feeling of yours?

ritchboy: You mean one of his clones?

scoring from a centre foward position...what't the biggie
about that? when would cesc displace busquets or xavi in
the spanish team? do you have an answer?

Ibime: Schweinsteiger raped Holland abeg.
Although Sneijder did some good things, he didnt cross the half-way line to help out De Jong.

sneijder was the best midfielder....tap into your euro 2012 app on your iphone
and see the raw stats. sneijder created more chances and made more passses in the
attacking 3rd...yet, you are talking about helping de jong. why should sneijder
help de jong when van bommel was on the pitch? the only difference was schweini
had a more clinical finisher as team mate whilst van persie looked lost more often
than not!

It was painful watching Van Der Vaart playing in central midfield. The dude was so weak, players just kept drifting past him. Obviously Sneijder has better defensive qualities than VDV but dude is feeling too big these days to help out his defence.

van der vaart's best position was playing just behind a striker...the same position
sneijder loves to occupy. it was because holland had to go for broke that made their
gaffer introduce a legion of attacking players. holland didn't fare badly but they
have the worst defence in the tournament.

Contrast with Schweinsteiger who controls the game from his own half and still produced two sumptuous assists.

schweini is one of the pivots....sneijder isn't

chic2pimp: I know who my money is on..........

This spanish team have only gone and done what I did not want them to.
The only reason I could give for spain not winning this title was the form of the Top striker.......Out of the window goes that reasoning.

they woulda have beaten italy if del bosque had played a natural striker
against italy! torres is boss cos his spanish team-mates know just how
to find him with good passes.

torres has announced himself here, he would go on n score more
provided he starts matches!

dayokanu: Mario Gomez like a boss.

They said it was Robben and Ribery thats always giving him passes, We can see how Ribery and Robben gave him passes to score 3 goals in 2 games

3 goals in 140mins, Van persie 1 goal in 180min

2 goals in 88 mins, fernando torres....

torres > gomiss!

chic2pimp: Torress vs Gomez......The battle for the golden boot.....Who is ur money on?

my money would be on torres...his goal per min ratio is better than gomiss.
jeeez, what a thumping strike from cesc fabregas!!!

torres scores again....

dayo, did you see that?
passes that put torres through on goal
1-v-1 with goalie is the best way to get
the best out of him! is torres still dud?

dayokanu: ^^ Winning a trophy doesnt define an individual players prowess

In football winning trophies is a team sport not an individual thing

if I have to tell you that then You need TB Joshua

but a team has to be good to win trophies. a player has to be good to make
the team. o'shea must have something to have lasted 11 seasons @ man united!

that o'shea is the least talented player in man utd does not
mean he's not a good player. he played 256 games for man utd,

5 league titles, 1 fa cup, 3 carling cup titles, 4 community
shields, 1 champions league, 1 club world cup...and you think
a geriatric fowl like schneider is better than sheasy?

you're a troglodyte!

dayokanu: Euro 2004 was Lahms first tournament for germany so how could Lahm be germanys best defender going to the tournament?
So winning a trophy makes a player talented? Oshea won countless trophies then he must be better than Ballack who struggled to win a few?

ballack won a league title with chelsea, daft comparison.
schneider has never won a trophy in his entire life and you
want to compare him to chris smalling or o'shea, really?

dayokanu: Euro 2004 was Lahms first tournament for germany so how could Lahm be germanys best defender going to the tournament?

of course, he was just picked randomly to make the squad.
it's not like he impressed rudi voeller in the international games before
euro 2004 especially the match against croatia where he was clearly the
man of the match and helped his team to a sweet away victory!

dayokanu, you're a neophyte in european football issues.

nateevs:

it was intentional.
bluediva and the legion of blokes...
to be honest, bluediva is an amazon...how does
she cope with the huge stench of testosterone on this thread?

chic2pimp: TORRESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS IS BACKKKKKKKK LADY AND GENTLEMEN!!!

but dayokanu and the other troglodytes would tell you torres
has never benefited from the spanish pass masters....

chic2pimp: TORRESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS IS BACK!!!

it's inevitable! torres is boss!

dayokanu: Your senility is beggining to affect your eyesight
Which player did England lose to Injury
Did they lose ferdinand to injury in 2004? NO
Did they lose Rooney to injury in 2006 NO

dayokanu, listing the players they missed means i should
name the key players that weren't in the team.....
rio ferdinand wasn't in the 2004 euros....
rooney was injured for 2006 world cup but featured
in some games in his half-fit status.

So if they lose a player to gonorrhea, its as a result of the lack of winter breaks and number of games played in the EPL?
These pages should be kept in archives so generation unborn would know we have a named coogar in 2012

so rooney breaking his metatarsal against chelsea in a slugfest match
few weeks to world cup 2006 is akin to losing a player to syphilis?
yet you wonder why we call you a dickhead!!!

let me help your amnesia a bit...http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/4966604.stm

dayokanu: LOL
You keep digging yourself further
Who was Germanys best defender in 2004?

phillip lahm!

Frings creative? You should be shot at Bar beach for that statement

diesler more creative than ballack in 2004?
you should be manually castrated by a feminist!

Caps in germany cant be reckoned with but its Caps in English team that can be reckoned with
Those 81 caps include World cup run in 2002 which no English player in this Generation ever achieved.
Its because of people like you that we need idiagbon back in govt

torres has scored....i would finish your life today.
is that the same schneider that has never won a trophy in his life(club or country)?
no league title, no cup competition title, no world cup title, no euros title....

may amadioha impregnate you with 6 albino midgets with rickets.

dayokanu: If you don't know just ask questions

In 2002, Metmet Scholl and Deisler were germanys most creative players both missed due to injuries, Nowotny was captain of Leverkusen who got to the CL finals equivalent of John Terry

in 2004 Christoph Metzelder Germany's best defender missed due to injury the Equivalent of Puyol to Spain

in 2006 Deisler missed again germanys best Attacking midfielder and most skilled player

in 2008 Bernd Schneider a player with 81 caps that about as many caps as Lampard for the national team

Only a tosser would compare Bernd Schneider with 81 caps to Agbonlahor with 3 caps or Bent 13

Add the number of caps of Agbonhaor and Bent together, then multiply by 5 its still less than Bernd Schneider

you're a tool!
metzelder was germany's best defender in 2004? must you lie to score cheap brownie points?
diesler was the most creative german player? ballack and frings must be disappointed in you.
bernd schneider a player with 81 caps? caps in germany can't be reckoned with.
per mertesacker has 81 caps, chris smalling with only 3 caps is better than the german.

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]It Is Bro the Question would be ''How Neat will it be Won''?

Dont Underestimate the Tactical Ingenuity Of RDM! {Not to forget the tons of Luck the Dude Carry} [/color]

he's world class....the best italian manager by a distance.
never mind the fact that he was destroyed by alan pardew's
inferior newcastle side at the bridge.

ritchboy, matchday 2 and cesc fabregas has returned
back to the bench. when will your fluid
tactical formation be used in this tourney?

dayokanu: Coogar says a lot of tripe He shouldnt be taken seriously

Example below

the actual fact is sneijder [color=#000000]r[/color]aped germany!
opta stats say so.....he murdered schweini, ozil and khedira in
the key battles....but was let down by his wingers and his striker.

BlueDiva: Coogar should know better.
Impossible doesn't exist in football, you have been watching football long enough.

As for Chelsea not winning the league, that was just a joke.
Henceforth i see a City/CFC two horse race.

city/chelsea 2-horse race?
there's no horse race in the premier league without man utd!

dayokanu: So did ferdinand miss Euro 2004 due to injuries?
Did Rooney miss World cup 2006 due to inury?
Once again you have been schooled

this was your question, you geriatric amnesiac!

dayokanu: List the important players they missed.

dayokanu: How is your "seeing" so far?
meanwhile

he did [color=#000000]r[/color]ape the germans but van persie's
finishing was a problem....sneijder made the most attacking passes
in the final third with 23....bastian was 2nd with 16, van persie(12)
robben(12), ozil(12)

sneijder created the most chances with 6!
bastian with 3, ozil with 3.
if sneijder had a disciplined clinical finisher like gomez, it
woulda been his team copping the 3 points.

dayokanu: 2004 ferdinand did not miss due to injury< He missed due to failing a drug test

ferdinand did not fail a drug test, you tool!

don't be a simpleton....you asked me how many key players have england missed
in the last 3 tournaments? whether they were missed due to gunshot wounds,
missed via suspension, missed via injuries, etc don't matter. the fact is
ferdinand wasn't in portugal for euro 2004 and he's a key player.

2006 Rooney did not miss due to injury. Wasnt it in 2006 that Ronaldo got Rooney red carded.

2 months to that world cup, rooney broke his metatarsal. he was rushed back
to feature in the games he played...a costly mistake by eriksson. recovering
from metatarsal injuries normally take 12 weeks, in rooney's case, he was brought
back in 9 weeks...a player who had missed football time for about 8 weeks to world cup
shouldn't have been relied upon to deliver.

Meanwhile Take this
In 2002 Germany Missed Mehmet Scholl, Deisler and Nowotny who got injured in the CL semi vs man utd

2004 Germany missed Christoph Metzelder and Sebastian Deisler due to injuries

2006 Germany missed Deisler again and Lahm played all tournament with a plaster on his arm.

2008 Germany missed Bernd Schneider due to injuries

2010 Germany missed Michael Ballack due to injuries

apart from ballack's miss in 2010, all the players you have mentioned
are no marks, i can also quote gabriel agbolahan, darren bent, etc we are
talking about key players not no marks.

lahm had a plaster on his arm, yea right.
that argument would wash if we are talking handball, this is football.
unless lahm is a goalkeeper, that statement really makes you a ninny!

So once again son, You have been schooled on European football

a feat you have been trying to achieve since coogar got on NL.
it would take a biblical miracle to school me on european football!

dayokanu: Yea
so go to SPAC and install
Which server did England lose to injury in World cup 2010, Euro 2004, World cup 2006

Those are the last 3 tournaments they played abi

List the important players they missed.

2010 - ferdinand
2006 - rooney
2004 - ferdinand
for further references.....http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8512276.stm