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CelebritiesRe: Jude Okoye: 'Peter Okoye Is A Prodigal Son, We Wont Lose Sleep Over Mr P” by Cosplay: 10:31pm On Sep 17, 2018
Smh
AutosRe: 2012 Tokunbo Sienna XLE by Cosplay: 10:30pm On Sep 17, 2018
VIN please. Thank you.
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 3:48pm On Sep 17, 2018
Now that the Neanderthals have arrived with the saviour complex to bless us all with their knowledge, back to the original message:

The alarm has been sounded about these dishonest practices over and over.

Chances are your vehicle came in over the land border like the vehicle in the thread below

https://www.nairaland.com/4547787/how-oviecardealer-helped-me-purchased

He who will pay attention, let him learn.

https://www.nairaland.com/4516266/only-legal-way-bringing-vehicles
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 3:46pm On Sep 17, 2018
jaymichael:
Where in my posts did I state the bolded?
Your initial statement:

jaymichael:
Smuggling is a crime (if you are caught) .
The clear explanation and implication of the above is that smuggling is legal if the smuggler is not caught.
CrimeRe: Girl Gives Birth At A Market In Delta, Abandons Her To Die. Photos by Cosplay: 3:38pm On Sep 17, 2018
Smh
AutosRe: SOLD by Cosplay: 3:36pm On Sep 17, 2018
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 2:36pm On Sep 17, 2018
jaymichael:
My brother, I included the bold part because smuggling happens everyday in this country. How do you think used tires, used fridges, okirika, foreign rice enter this country?
Great logic.

That would mean that "because smuggling happens everyday in this country", it's suddenly legal and right?

Good to know.
PoliticsRe: High Oil Price Pushes Subsidy On Petrol To N65.6 Per Litre by Cosplay: 2:34pm On Sep 17, 2018
Smh
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 2:28pm On Sep 17, 2018
jaymichael:
I am speaking from a professional angle as I have 12 years+ experience i as a customs clearing agent.
jaymichael:
Snuggling is a crime (if you are caught) .
As far as I'm concerned the conversation should have ended as soon as the part in bold was included.

I suppose robbery is also a crime only if you are caught as well?

Well done.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Oni: Buhari Should Not Contest 2019 Election - Says Anglican Bishop by Cosplay: 11:48am On Sep 17, 2018
Smh
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 11:42am On Sep 17, 2018
omonla10:
1. I'm not assisting the OP. I'm just telling him there's a way out...
Your response is noted, but It doesn't really provide answers to the raised issues, it just leads to more questions.

For instance,

omonla10:
4. Theres what we call ammendment. Even some cars are wrongly manifested. Custom can still establish or add d car to any port of choice officially.
Port of choice? Does this mean that even without valid paperwork or documentation, it's possible for an importer aided by official customs procedure to choose an arbitrary port of entry?

omonla10:
3.what if used land borders 3 years ago and didn't pay duty.. Will u still forfeit Ur car? No.. U can still approach custom offices and process assessment notice to pay duty on such cars.
But as far as I recall at that time land border imports were still legal. I don't quite understand the point you tried to make here. Or is there an implicit suggestion that import dates could be manipulated and backdating is commonplace to evade the ban?
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 10:51am On Sep 17, 2018
Bizibi:
please,I want to know if it is less stressful importing cars into the country without delay?
And is the duty expensive though I heard it has been reduced.
I wouldn't have much information on that subject. Look around the section for the resident licensed agents, they would be more helpful.

Gluckdude20:
do you have a number i can reach you on?
None at the moment. My email address is in my profile, if you'd be interested in that.
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 10:47am On Sep 17, 2018
Readonee35L:
Nkan Ti O Ye Eh. O po ju nkan to ye eh loh .
Meaning. What you dont understand is more than What you will ever know.

You see this questions . How and Why . thats the koko behind everything,
that is the magic that is not disclosed to the jews.


As much as there are lots of fake papers for cars from land borders.

There are geniune walk arounds. But it will look like a mystery to you because its not your specialization.


As corrupt as nigeria is today with ceritificate forgery e.t.c
You think ordinary custom duty will be a big deal.
grin


P.s I'm not a custom officer neither do i sell vehicles in cotonou
Congratulations from the Jews over here. May your acclaimed magic be the source of all good things to you.

All excerpts from

https://www.nairaland.com/4516266/only-legal-way-bringing-vehicles

MrMcJay:
The land borders were shut to vehicles from Benin Cotonou because it was the point of origin for most smuggled vehicles into Nigeria. Most vehicles from Cotonou do not pay Customs Duty and were usually smuggled. Hence, they decided to throw away the baby with the bath water by closing the land border.

Now, if a vehicle is bought from Cotonou and Customs duty is paid on it at Tincan to give the fraudulent impression that it was brought in from Tincan, no problem. You're attempting to help the FG achieve what they wanted howbeit illegally. It's not outrightly illegal but you're exploiting the weakness of the law. One day, you'll pay for that.

The day an overzealous customs officer insists on sighting supporting documents which you used to obtain your C-number, you may fall into a deep pit. That's the day you'll explain how a vehicle imported into Port of Cotonou found its way into Tincan Port at a time the land borders from Benin to Nigeria were closed to vehicle imports.
When an "agent" was asked to clarify the process:

oviecardealer:
is simple though is a technical process ....beside this is Nigeria I work with the authority to obtain it.......please kindly settle down and read my write up to understand it well because I have explained it before.....but for security reasons I would not explain step by step but the bottom line is at the end we get the desire results Thanks !
To which the response was:

olumide4christ:
Mr oviecardealer, you're completely wrong on this one.
Even your fellow customs agent, @saintjoel here on Nairaland has told me categorically that there is nothing like "Tincan Custom Papers for Cotonou Vehicles". He has even put that disclaimer on his threads on Nairaland due to his sincerity.
He even explained to me what agents like you do in conjunction with customs at Tincan to conjure these phony papers for Cotonou vehicles AND how the customs officials on the road can determine the fake status of these papers IF THEY WANT TO.
Mind you, I went with him to Cotonou in 2014 to get my car when the border was still open & he got original custom papers for the car from Seme border command. But according to him, that cannot happen for now due to the border closure to imported cars.

Therefore, you should come & prove @saintjoel, your colleague wrong and also answer @Cosplay's question successfully.
Otherwise, this thread of yours will be seen as a means to scam innocent Nairalanders.
From the "agent":

oviecardealer:
laughing out loud....firstly, with respect to saintjoel.nothing is impossible....beside, everybody has a limit as to how they carry out their job..we have different connections and technical know how.
I have been in nairaland for years now please take a look at all my threads, you would not see any body complied that i have don fake customs duty for them before in the past and recently that because i do not involve my self with that.....in my other trends i post pictures of vehicles and their customs duty online so any body can verify their authenticity .
I stop pasting customs document because most client want to keep their privacy
Having said that as the saying goes.... physical evident clears all doubts.....i will provide you with proves.....now i am going to obtain permeation from the clients i posted their vehicles pictures here to allow me paste the customs (C-NUMBERS ) so you and others can go to any customs command to verify if they are genuine.
GAZZUZZ:
If you have to lie and cheat to be in business, you are in the wrong line of work. Get a new job.
GAZZUZZ:
If you cannot explain it, then it is illegal.

AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 9:56am On Sep 17, 2018
omonla10:
so Ur custom friend says it's impossible to pay duty on a smuggled car.. It's either he's incompetent or he's naive.. People pay duty on cars daily at fou ikeja. Go there and confirm for urself.. So u mean all seize cars are destroyed or what.. Once the car is not seized, they can still raise u a DN which u can use to pay duty to Nigerian customs
You want to assist the OP, that's commendable.

Could you clarify the following?

- There's a moratorium on vehicle imports into Nigeria across the land borders.

- Importers still smuggle these vehicles into the country, pay "genuine" duty and somehow come up with "genuine" customs documents for them.

My question is simple, really.

In the import documents presented to the NCS in the duty payment and clearing process, what port of entry would be listed?

Tin Can? Apapa?

If the answer is either of the above, how would the importer come up with documentation showing that the vehicle was imported via those ports?

Where would the Ship bill of lading come from? Vessel name? Voyage number? Port of loading?

Or would the import documents indicate that the vehicle entered via the land borders?
AutosRe: My Muscle Camry Almost Got Impounded. by Cosplay: 7:00pm On Sep 16, 2018
The alarm has been sounded about these dishonest practices over and over.

Chances are your vehicle came in over the land border like the vehicle in the thread below

https://www.nairaland.com/4547787/how-oviecardealer-helped-me-purchased

He who will pay attention, let him learn.

https://www.nairaland.com/4516266/only-legal-way-bringing-vehicles
Car TalkRe: Quiz On Knowledge Of Automobile by Cosplay: 2:58pm On Sep 16, 2018
This entire thread just seems like a parody of the other quiz thread by autojoshng
AutosRe: Mercedes Benz 815 Truck... Container 08155546004 by Cosplay: 11:36pm On Sep 14, 2018
Cityhood reincarnated.
Car TalkRe: A Curious Tale Of Two 2017 Honda CR-Vs by Cosplay(op): 2:41pm On Sep 14, 2018
uwemjack:
This car here
https://autoauctions.io/app/5701058/2015-bmw-i8


same car here

https://www.copart.com/lot/44057748/
Yes, I'm familiar with this vehicle, the apparent backstory was that after the initial accident which damaged the front bumper, left headlamp assembly and left fender with some left frame rail and other underlying damage, State Farm assessors disassembled the vehicle, possibly to ascertain the level of the damage and possible frame extension, in the process they eventually decided to just declare it a total loss and sent it off for the auction.

Some enterprising fellow got the vehicle, put it back together (or tried to) and sent it back to the auction. Difference between the original winning bid for the first insurance sale and the eventual bid the second time was close to 8000 USD or thereabouts.

Detailed investigation would reveal the true history.
AutosRe: Super Clean Toks Honda Fit 2007 Model! Sold! Thank you JESUS by Cosplay:
oparahchi:
My foolishness does not allow me understand the automobile sales market. Hence no reason trading words with you. This would be my last response as regards this matter. Thwart!
Should perhaps be T w a t

In any case, my offer still stands!

We can do it people!

Modified;

It's November grin

AutosRe: Super Clean Toks Honda Fit 2007 Model! Sold! Thank you JESUS by Cosplay: 1:16pm On Sep 14, 2018
You should strongly consider a new line of work or a different business, because you've failed in quite spectacular fashion as a middleman grin grin

You advertised this vehicle first in November 2017

https://www.nairaland.com/4195851/super-clean-toks-honda-fit

This is September 2018, close to a year later, this car is still sitting unsold.

Even after ipfreely tried to show you the error of your ways in that original advert you clearly didn't learn anything.

This transpired in April

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7774592_screenshot20180914131123chrome_jpeg948e8804d75478a7999b4386ba334a4d

Clearly you got so frustrated and upset that you had to create a new advert to try to sell this vehicle you've advertised for close to a year.

I will assist, no thanks required grin

People, whoever's interested in this vehicle will get a history report from me to help seal the deal! Just send me an email.

Let's all come together and help a middleman earn his commission, no matter how meagre it may be, or how terrible a salesman he may be.

It would be a tragedy if this vehicle had a 1 year anniversary in this section.
AutosRe: Super Clean Toks Honda Fit 2007 Model! Sold! Thank you JESUS by Cosplay: 9:16am On Sep 14, 2018
You obviously didn't learn anything from ipfreely

AutosRe: Sold!!! Hurry..Price CRASH. Toks Benz C300 (super Sharp) by Cosplay: 7:02pm On Sep 13, 2018
mycece:
Accident free
Low Mileage

AutosRe: Lexus LX570 Superclean by Cosplay: 5:53pm On Sep 13, 2018
2016 Lexus LX

AutosRe: Sold!!! Price Crash.....2010 Venza by Cosplay: 5:04pm On Sep 13, 2018
mycece:
You can confirm status using the VIN when you come for inspection.

AutosRe: Lexus RX 350 2017 Model Needed. by Cosplay: 7:37am On Sep 13, 2018
adeniyiemmanuel:
undisputed RX 350 2017model
I dispute that.

That vehicle is a 2016 Lexus RX 350

AutosRe: Toyota Camry 2012 Abuja Xle Abuja!!! by Cosplay: 5:33pm On Sep 12, 2018
Opeexclusive04:
LEATHER INTERIOR needs to be worked on

LOW MILEAGE
With those seats?

Let's have the VIN please, thank you.
AutosRe: 2008 Ford Edge Toks..n3.2m by Cosplay: 11:41pm On Sep 11, 2018
AutosRe: Hot Sale: 2011 Acura Zdx. Accident Free. @9.5million by Cosplay: 11:39pm On Sep 11, 2018
A few months ago you declared the vin would be included with your adverts.

If you're unable to keep to that simple declaration, then your words and reputation are as worthless as the false accident free claim you have on your adverts.

The only reason a seller would hide the VIN even after a request is to hide significant information about a vehicle, and in this case it's quite clear to me what that information is.

Time will tell.
TravelRe: The Bad State Of Federal Road In Otukpo, Benue State (Photos) by Cosplay: 5:52pm On Sep 11, 2018
How unfortunate.

An unfortunate country populated by unfortunate people doing unfortunate things in unfortunate ways.
AutosRe: 2006 Toyota Camry SE Tokunbo For Sale by Cosplay: 5:51pm On Sep 11, 2018
greggng:
I am not a desperate seller. Lots of people patronise me based on truth...whether they buy or not live goes on but I like to state the fact.
As you should.

Commendable.
AutosRe: 2008 Ford Edge Toks..n3.2m by Cosplay: 5:41pm On Sep 11, 2018
petebor02:
Accident free
Flood free
low mileage

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