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Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 2:55pm On Sep 06, 2022
Janosky:
COURZ You bringing evidences that JWs INFORM the CONGREGATION about 9 pedophiles convicted of a crime & you are still making a FALSE claim of "protecting" the 9 criminals
Please go visit a Shrink.

Can you compare 1.7% allegedly attributed to JWs with 60% allegedly attributed to the Catholic Church?
Some bolts upstairs have fallen off you.

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Why are there many unreported Child Sexual Abuse cases springing up? Why is Watchtower angry that JWs are beginning to know about these cases and are challenging them? Why is Watchtower threatening JWs to stop listening to these cases and that listening to the media and whistle blowers means Death? Why is Watchtower protecting Pedophiles? Why do they have a Database of Pedophiles of the Cult and when asked to provide this list by the authorities, they refused to do so? What are they hiding? Does this list of Pedophiles implicate your beloved Governing body? How are you JWs better than the Catholic Church? Why are underaged Children unsafe in your Cult?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 2:14pm On Sep 06, 2022
Janosky:
COURZ You bringing evidences that JWs INFORM the CONGREGATION about 9 pedophiles convicted of a crime & you are still making a FALSE claim of "protecting" the 9 criminals
Please go visit a Shrink.

Can you compare 1.7% allegedly attributed to JWs with 60% allegedly attributed to the Catholic Church?
Some bolts upstairs have fallen off you.

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What is the image of Satan doing in your Watchtower publication? The Watchtower is about Jesus yet they had to fix Satan in there? Why did Watchtower cut the image into half to conceal it? Why do you need a mirror to see the full picture?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz:
Want to know why they have several cases of Child Sexual Abuse and make frantic efforts to cover them up and hide their Database? Head to the Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons? thread. Then you will understand why.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 1:11pm On Sep 06, 2022
Janosky:
Carry your COURZ DELUSIONAL SYMPTOMS Waka go offline. grin
Why is Watchtower protecting Pedophiles like these ones below? Any difference between you JWs and the Catholic Church now?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 1:06pm On Sep 06, 2022
Janosky:
Carry your COURZ DELUSIONAL SYMPTOMS Waka go offline. grin
How do you feel about Watchtower running you JWs and your Freemason brethren IBSA at the same time yet still claiming Pure Worship? Remember, IBSA are Freemasons free to celebrate Christmas and Birthdays and do all that you JWs kick against.

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 1:04pm On Sep 06, 2022
Janosky:
So called "wake up/woke up" is a byword for DELUSIONAL SYMPTOMS OF COURZ, the same virus prominent in his fellow cronies. grin
Why is it that your JW Memorial is the exact same ceremony of Satanists called The Black Mass?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 1:01pm On Sep 06, 2022
Janosky:
So called "wake up/woke up" is a byword for DELUSIONAL SYMPTOMS OF COURZ, the same virus prominent in his fellow cronies. grin
What is the image of Satan doing in your Watchtower publication? The Watchtower is about Jesus yet they had to fix Satan in there? Why did Watchtower cut the image into half to conceal it? Why do you need a mirror to see the full picture?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 12:56pm On Sep 06, 2022
Janosky:
Of course, USUAL SYMPTOMS OF COURZ IBERIBEISM & DELUSION.
1st point:
Does the US/UK Gvernments, "bastion of democracy", control information giving to the public?
According to faulty DELUDED theory of COURZ IBERIBEISM, Government is a cult.

2nd point:
Even God Almighty controlled information giving to Daniel His Prophet.
Daniel 1:17, "Daniel could understand visions and dream"
COURZ IBERIBE, did Daniel understand the visions and dreams of Daniel 12:1-9?

Daniel was curious ,he asked "My Lord will the outcome of all these (visions and dreams) be?"

God's angel replied: "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up & sealed until the time of the end".

3rd point:
Matthew 24:36, did God Almighty control the information given to Jesus?
Is God Almighty cultish?

Mumu boy,grow up grin grin grin

What is the image of Satan doing in your Watchtower publication? The Watchtower is about Jesus yet they had to fix Satan in there? Why did Watchtower cut the image into half to conceal it? Why do you need a mirror to see the other half?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 11:59am On Sep 06, 2022
Comments....

Wake up/Woke up=Seeing the Lies of the Cult.

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 11:56am On Sep 06, 2022
Comments...

GB=Governing Body
CSA=Child Sexual Abuse
Pedo=Pedophiles.
FDS=Faithful and Discreet Slave
FS=Field Service

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz:
Proof that Watchtower are extremely scared and are panicking :Their latest September broadcast. If you want to know something wrong has been going on behind the scenes, just pay attention to what the Governing body talks about in this broadcast. This broadcast is proof that a lot of JWs are waking up, researching this Cult, questioning them, and leaving.

They mentioned young people doing research about the Cult and listening to the media reports about the Cult. It is clear they are bleeding young JWs. In this broadcast, they demonised the Media and said JWs should avoid listening to the Media, avoid listening to Whistle-blowers they call Apostates. In fact, they demonised everything. In other words, do not listen to anything outside their website. This is Information Control 101. Sign of a Cult. They even said listening to the media and Whistle-blowers means Death. They are threatening. This means they have a lot to hide.

They said people have been saying lies about them but they refused to mention these lies or the truth or even show proof that they are lies. They didn't mention the news reports. With the way they are delivering these warnings to JWs, they have no idea that this will tickle the curiosity of some and will lead these ones to research the Cult and the News reports. That is the experience of a lot of JWs who eventually joined EXJW Reddit forum. This is why EXJW forum memberships are growing at a high rate.

One thing non JWs reading this thread should understand about this Cult is the Leadership require Blind obedience. Ignore what is being said and trust and obey them. Very fishy! In this broadcast, it was repeatedly said, "Trust us" "Trust the Faithful Slave as God and Jesus trusts us". How did they know God and Jesus trusts them? Can they read the minds of God and Jesus? They're not inspired so how did they get the message? This is not the first broadcast having the same pleas. They have made these pleas 3 or 4 times before. For them to repeat it again with vigor this time around means something wrong is happening to them.

From this broadcast, it was also clear that Watchtower monitors EXJW forums and react to them. They were addressing some things discussed there. There were many posts asking if the Governing body really go out to preach like every other JW. In the Broadcast, they showed obviously rehearsed scenes of their Leadership Preaching with cameras recording in the house holder's house. The scenes are also old with a wife of one of them wearing a convention badge of 2014. Many who have come in contact with their leadership admit that some don't often go for Preaching and use their talks to count time for field service while others don't go at all. So, those parts are clearly fake.

Sorry Watchtower that you are seriously bleeding members and a lot of them are questioning you. But that should be expected when you have things to hide and are involved in a lot of questionable activities. Almighty God and Jesus are the ones exposing you. They are using people you mistreated to expose you. Jesus says what has been hidden must be brought to Light. Humbly accept discipline from them the same way you tell JWs to accept discipline and you will be fine. No need to panic! grin grin

FDS=Faithful and Discreet Slave (The Governing Body).
DA=Disassociation (Terminate JW membership).
GB=Governing Body
CSA =Child Sexual Abuse
Pedo Data=Database of Pedophiles in the JW Cult hidden by Watchtower from the authorities.

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 12:07pm On Sep 03, 2022
OgaNightmare:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DF0S1FffE2SE&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjwwIzlvfb5AhWORvEDHd78DhkQtwJ6BAgDEAE&usg=AOvVaw3iE9vMeB_AV6FyKLqlZN8E
Ah Yes. I watched this video a long time ago. That was a wonderful talk although incomplete. They switched off his Mic and got him out of there. The man was really skillful in handling where the talk was going. True Christians will receive that talk with all their hearts because he was trying to tell JWs in that hall The Good News. What is the Good News? JWs will usually give a different answer to that question but the Bible explicitly tells you what the Good news actually is. I like how he pointed to when Apostle Paul said Stick to the Basics. Very important.

How they handled this man tells you Watchtower is demonic. If your talk isn't about allegiance to the Governing body or organisation or how to do more for Watchtower, that talk will never be approved. All the same, kudos to that man. He has got some balls giving that talk. I know exactly what he was doing. He's PIMO. grin smiley
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 9:03pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi it's good to be one of Jesus' true followers!
Maturity is a blessing! 1Peter 3:15 smiley
Mad MaxInDHouse! What is the image of Satan doing in your Watchtower publication? The Watchtower is about Jesus yet they had to fix Satan in there? Why did Watchtower cut the image into half to conceal it?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 8:51pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Even Jesus himself acknowledged a VISIBLE organization because in the absence of an organized people all having the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} his earthly ministry is not a success! Matthew 12:46-50
That's why he could assure Peter and others that a spiritual family must suffice first as proof that you are with a prepared people anticipating God's Kingdom rule! Mark 10:29-30
It's the Good News of God's Kingdom commissioned by Christ that makes them one global family, that why they're able to separate themselves from faithless people as they use God's word as their constitution {Isaiah 2:2-3} and they're able to divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the production, buying, selling and usage of weapons, vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman and say Goodbye to military services! Micah 4:1-3 wink
What's the image of Satan doing in your publication below Mad MaxInDHouse?

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz:
achorladey:
When they think deep down and see the reason why

First......... Russell said ORGANIZATION IS WHOLLY UNNECESSARY

Second........ Rutherford came with his RELIGION IS A SNARE AND A RACKET.

Both of them using Bible verse to say that such is not scriptural

They should have seen they were against all organized religions already in place and that all such religion believed that they are GOD'S ORGANIZATION one that God is using.

Now this no get sense peddling peddler want to sell to us a market called Jehovah’s organization or God's organisation they already bad mouth and said is unnecessary, a snare and a racket using Psalms 89:5-7 and Isaiah 6:8. Who go buy am? grin grin grin grin grin
But they don't think deep, remember? They are Watchtower robots. They only repeat what Watchtower says. Even if you show a JW from the Bible and their publications stating the obvious, brainless JWs won't listen to you. If Watchtower today tells JWs, You have been scammed. We have been lying to you all this while. JWs will not believe Watchtower is saying it. They will say it is the work of Apostates. grin grin They desperately need what they are being taught to be true else everything they have done for this Cult is a waste. This is how bad the demonic influence is on them. The hold Watchtower has on them is Demonic.

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 6:04pm On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
Poisons of various forms are served as breakfast here now by those you call ATHEISTS and APOSTATES even from your darling religious publications.

Be our guest, we won't waste your time to get the poisons prepared as breakfast and served hot grin grin grin grin grin
Isn't it funny that the poison we have been serving in this thread as Breakfast is their own publication? So, Mad MaxInDHouse agrees that Watchtower publications are poisonous.

Thanks Max. smiley smiley
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 5:39pm On Sep 02, 2022
Janosky:
Psalm 89:7 na your Sifia pains.
How do you feel about Watchtower running you JWs and your Freemason brethren IBSA at the same time yet still claiming Pure Worship? Remember, IBSA are Freemasons free to celebrate Christmas and Birthdays and do all that you JWs kick against.

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 5:30pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I guesse he's programmed grin
He is indeed. And it is sad to watch seeing his brain turned to mush by Watchtower. His responses are always scattered. Something is happening in his brain. sad sad
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 5:16pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
E be like sey Janosky worse pass our intelligence officer oooo grin grin grin
His own is special. You need to see how he shifts Goal posts. You will be doubting that you are chatting with an Adult. Real Coconut head! And his Lies oozes like excreta. sad angry grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:50pm On Sep 02, 2022
Janosky:
COURZ INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM is incurable.
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How do you feel about Watchtower running you JWs and your Freemason brethren IBSA at the same time yet still claiming Pure Worship? Remember, IBSA are Freemasons free to celebrate Christmas and Birthdays and do all that you JWs kick against.

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:46pm On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
You can see the post of the no get sense peddling peddler so far. Filled with repetition of scriptures that I have repeatedly shown to him does not support whatever he is propagating grin grin grin


They will keep recycling it continuously hoping and looking for who will fall for it.
He doesn't know what to say again na. He is a Robot. He has to keep repeating what he knows. cheesy cheesy grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:38pm On Sep 02, 2022
Janosky:
Inside your DELUDED head,shey?
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Are you angry that your Former Freemason god the Former President of Watchtower kicked against the formation of governing body in a convention talk? Eya! Pele! It sucks to be a JW when your leaders contradict themselves. I understand. grin grin cheesy

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:37pm On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
See their mode of operation..........


They will first DENY or go into DENIAL ,.......... then go ahead and say that you are LYING............go further to abuse and insults........... then recant and accept or admit what you say is the TRUTH............. sometimes hide behind IMPERFECTIONS or RESERVATIONS to save their face.


Within a very short time they will repeat the process again grin grin grin
Rinse and repeat like clockwork. grin grin Robotic. Watchtower robot! A very exhausting way to communicate with a person. sad sad
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:23pm On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
You can see him hiding behind poor understanding of the Scriptures, super glue to myopia and asking irrelevant questions based on his archaic ideas to be mocked grin grin grin grin grin
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.....

I shock when this dullard was busy denying IBSA. Not knowing Watchtower will disgrace him. grin grin

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:17pm On Sep 02, 2022
Janosky:
GIBBERISH for the dustbin.
Are you angry that your Former Freemason god the Former President of Watchtower kicked against the formation of governing body in a convention talk? Eya! Pele! It sucks to be a JW when your leaders contradict themselves. I understand. grin grin

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:08pm On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
Dem no dey practice or follow wetin dem dey teach. Extract from one of their publications........


The mountain that the woman referred to was Mount Gerizim, located about 30 miles (50 km) north of Jerusalem. There the Samaritans once had a temple where they celebrated festivals such as the Passover. However, instead of focusing on this controversial difference between them, Jesus said to the woman: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.” (John 4:21) What an astounding comment, especially coming from a Jew! Why would the worship at God’s temple in Jerusalem cease?


The Jewish temple was a tangible structure at a specific geographic location. But spirit and truth are not material, nor are they limited to any physical place. Thus, Jesus was explaining that true Christian worship would not be centered in or dependent on any material structure or physical location, whether Mount Gerizim, the temple in Jerusalem, or any other sacred place.

When Jesus mentioned worshipping with spirit, he was not speaking of a particularly spirited, animated, or enthusiastic form of worship. Rather, he was talking about being guided by God’s holy spirit, which among other things guides our understanding of the Scriptures. (1 Corinthians 2:9-12) And the truth Jesus referred to is an accurate knowledge of Bible teachings. Therefore, rather than being rendered at any special place, our worship will be acceptable to God if it conforms to what the Bible teaches and is guided by the holy spirit.


See their article Should Christians Worship at Shrines?

Yet they released a letter of recent to all their congregations complaining that some have decided to continue and remain on ZOOM meetings at home instead of going to the kingdom halls stating they are not doing more to worship Jehovah in person at and inside the kingdom halls.


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Kingdom halls na special and sacred place of worship for them that's why they dedicate it to Jehovah despite stating in the article metioned above that God don't need such places. If indeed kingdom halls are not sacred, dedicated or special places for worship. Let them open them up for other public events or gatherings or use it as polling booths for elections grin grin grin grin
The JWs in this thread are skipping this your post and are pretending they didn't see Watchtower disgrace them from your screenshot. grin grin Very funny thing to watch. Just show JWs where Watchtower went against their argument, they will go mute. Like that Janonsense fellow denying their Freemason brethren IBSA. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:59pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
Lest I forget, I saw a video of a brother giving a talk and then he read Romans:10:8&9
"The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming:
That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Immediately the brother was dragged from the platform grin grin grin grin angry
The video is on YouTube, I later heard he was disfellowshiped later.( There's a follow up video of his interview I think I will check it out to get the full story)
Are you serious? They dragged him away from the platform simply because he read a bible verse that Watchtower never quotes? grin grin
Isn't this proof that Watchtower is demonic? What is wrong with that bible verse? Wow! What is the title of the video?
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:55pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I listen to his talk refuting the GB stuff(it's available on YouTube)
He had a very sound reasoning and argument.
Had it been someone said that today, he'll be disfellowshiped immediately.
New witnesses will even think it's apostate propaganda not knowing it's their former president who gave such a talk grin grin grin
Oh yes. His argument against the formation of the Governing body was very correct in fact that is the only truth Fred Franz ever came up with. And Yes, anyone who makes such an argument will be disfellowshipped immediately.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:40pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I'm currently using BSB(Beroean Study Bible) and William Barclay Study Bible
However I like enjoying variety so I use studylight to check varied renderings of Bible text fr different translations.
None of the Translators of NWT knew koine Greek only Fred Franz (He didn't complete his studies) he left college in his first year.
He was self taught in Hebrew.
During the Walter Walsh trial he was place under oath to translate a particular verse, my guy talk sey him no fit grin grin grin
Anyway I'm not mocking them, just saying the facts.
I think if the org has like 5Fred Franz among the GB today most of this their teachings like "Overlapping generation" will have long been discarded
Actually, Any translation that helps you to understand the Bible is good.

As for Fred Franz, don't mind that fraud JWs were worshipping. He lied that he knew Greek abi Hebrew yet he couldn't translate when asked to. Is that not why Watchtower refused to release the names of the JW Bible translation team? Fred Franz's nickname was The Oracle. The name should tell you what Watchtower was doing. Spiritism. Fred Franz was the one who came up with the prediction of 1975. So, if he was still alive, he would have concocted more outrageous predictions plus doctrines.

Do you know that Fred Franz kicked against the formation of the Governing body during a convention? The JWs in the convention were confused. He said the formation of a Governing body is not Biblical. Because he was President of Watchtower and needed all the power but some Watchtower officials needed power too, there was a tussle. This just shows that the doctrines of JWs depend on the person or people in Leadership. If these Governing body die off, a new leadership will come up with another set of doctrines again. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 11:51am On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
Your Bible Translation is much simpler and direct
Which translation is this?
New Living Translation. You have no idea how much this translation opened my eyes. There are other translations as good as this one. Once you start using these translations, you will understand why you never quite understood certain verses in the JW Bible. You will see their deception.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz:
achorladey:
When you go about plugging your post with the STORIES of a couple who attends different Christians religious denominations but had issues in their marriage using it to raise your religious organisation above theirs you forget Phillipians 4:8 grin grin cheesy and the part that says..... things are of good report

When you go about calling people all sorts of name, tags, labels, insult, workers of LAWLESSNESS and iniquities even saying.....

"They said Apostates are useless and hopeless"

You forget the account in Phillipians 4:8 grin grin grin
Just check out this testimony from an Ex Bethelite about a meeting they had with the governing body members at Bethel based on the issue of Bethelites having their own separate meetings separate from the rest of the Bethelites. Below are the words of two Governing body members to the whole Bethel family who are now late. So, not only are the bible principles not enough for JWs but they have to serve "Their Mother" a. k. a The Organisation that has over I000 rules and regulations to follow. Jesus says we are not under the Mosaic Law. Based on the screenshot, Watchtower says Mbanu, JWs must be under their law and that Law is the Organisation. People who want to join this Cult, I hope you are taking notes! grin grin

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 11:18am On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
God airpus.

No mind that one wey go dey parrot and boast about things e no understand for nairaland up and down thinking na military intelligence dem dey use understand bible or his religious publicationsgrin grin grin


In their Bible teach book this is captured......

Remember, too, that you have made a dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work, a cause, other humans, or an organization. Your dedication and baptism are the beginning of a very close friendship with God​—an intimate relationship with him.... Page 183

Baptismal second question comes....... grin


Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?


Double face everywhere
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Double Double. grin Ahn Ahn!

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