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Let's think about this very well. Be very honest. What kind of religion teaches that Jesus came invisibly then took the Holy Spirit away and instead assigned Angels to give them messages? Where was it written that the Holy Spirit will be no more? So, even if they receive messages from Angels, still they are not inspired. Can that religion be regarded as Christian when Jesus specifically mentioned the importance of the Holy Spirit in the life of a Christian? I am still shocked at this sort of teaching.

achorladey:
One thing I noticed about the publication I referenced was that it those magazines they give to the public to read. When the public buy into it and accept Bible study, then they gradually remove what they buy into indoctrinate them again with something else.

Look good on the outside something else inside. Indeed their publications na one of their palaver

That is what I have noticed also. Why do you think they have separate Watchtower for JWs Study edition and there is Public edition? People reject their Watchtower and accept only Awake because they know the Jargons in there.

achorladey:
You know dem be double face upper lips saying A and the lower lip saying B.

With all those things contained in that article you wonder why Max and his likes go about insulting and agitating on others about being a member of a religious organization or denominations or not stating the name of their religious denominations here on nairaland.

The fact that they had to start coaxing members to return to their sacred religious building for worship [/b]even stating that they should show more effort in worshipping God [b]in PERSON there says it all.

So those sitting at home are not worshipers of God in person? in TRUTH and in SPIRIT na inside kingdom halls e dey.

This is what is making me laugh. So Watchtower agreed with all what we have been saying about the discussion between Jesus and the Samaritan woman yet the JWs in this forum are arguing blindly over doing the opposite of what Jesus taught. The JWs in this forum don't even know their own teachings.

JWs in this forum, can you see how your beloved Watchtower has disgraced you? Mad MaxInDHouse will come here to boast about being in the one true religion, being on the road to Salvation and how anyone who doesn't worship with JWs will perish yet Watchtower agreed with us that Jesus said Place of worship /denominations or attachment to buildings no longer matter. This is hilarious! Watchtower enjoys seeing JWs look stupid in public. Watchtower is the epitome of the word Contradiction.

achorladey:
Dem no dey practice or follow wetin dem dey teach. Extract from one of their publications........


The mountain that the woman referred to was Mount Gerizim, located about 30 miles (50 km) north of Jerusalem. There the Samaritans once had a temple where they celebrated festivals such as the Passover. However, instead of focusing on this controversial difference between them, Jesus said to the woman: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.” (John 4:21) What an astounding comment, especially coming from a Jew! Why would the worship at God’s temple in Jerusalem cease?


The Jewish temple was a tangible structure at a specific geographic location. But spirit and truth are not material, nor are they limited to any physical place. Thus, Jesus was explaining that true Christian worship would not be centered in or dependent on any material structure or physical location, whether Mount Gerizim, the temple in Jerusalem, or any other sacred place.

When Jesus mentioned worshipping with spirit, he was not speaking of a particularly spirited, animated, or enthusiastic form of worship. Rather, he was talking about being guided by God’s holy spirit, which among other things guides our understanding of the Scriptures. (1 Corinthians 2:9-12) And the truth Jesus referred to is an accurate knowledge of Bible teachings. Therefore, rather than being rendered at any special place, our worship will be acceptable to God if it conforms to what the Bible teaches and is guided by the holy spirit.


See their article Should Christians Worship at Shrines?

Yet they released a letter of recent to all their congregation complaining that some have decided to continue and remain on ZOOM meetings at home instead of going to the kingdom halls stating they are not doing more to worship Jehovah in person at and inside the kingdom halls.




Kingdom halls na special and sacred place of worship for them that's why they dedicate it to Jehovah despite stating in the article metioned above that God don't need such places. If indeed kingdom halls are not sacred, dedicated or special places for worship. Let them open them up for other public events or gatherings or use it as polling booths for elections

So, Watchtower admitted that what Jesus meant was no attachment to places of worship/physical buildings /denominations and yet they still turned around and taught JWs something opposite to what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman. These people know what they are doing.

Now, they are begging JWs to come to the Kingdom hall instead of using Zoom because the donations they have been getting has reduced and they are no longer able to control JWs fully. Using Zoom will reduce the donations and reduce their level of influence on JWs. In western countries as we speak, in most congregations have half of JWs on Zoom and there are reports of many JWs saying they will not go for Door to door Preaching since there is letter writing and Zoom. But what is worrying Watchtower now is that the Pandemic has resulted to many JWs leaving the Cult, donations are down and JWs don't want to go to the Kingdom Halls. Even after reading their letters of begging, JWs still stick to Zoom. It is very interesting to see these developments. If Watchtower comes for these JWs, they should use this same scripture from Jesus to the Samaritan to counter them. Jesus said no attachments/importance to place of worship lets see how Watchtower will react to that one.

OgaNightmare:
John:4.23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.

Spot on. I can't count how many times I have quoted this scripture to JWs. Unfortunately, what you said will fly over their heads because what the Samaritan woman said in John 4 vs 20 is exactly what JWs do and Jesus corrected her in verse 21. The Jews and the Samaritans have different religious beliefs and each believe they are better/superior to the other. JWs don't understand that verse. Watchtower gave JWs a different interpretation. When you read many translations, you will understand exactly what Jesus was saying. Jesus explained why the Jews believe in what they believe in BUT a time is coming, in fact that time is already now, that where you worship will no longer matter because true worshippers will worship God in Spirit and in truth. Place of worship no longer matters. God is no longer placing importance on physical buildings/denominations as long as people worship him in Spirit and in truth and these are the people he is looking for. He is not looking for people who place importance on denominations/place of worship and this is where JWs/Watchtower have failed. They are doing the opposite of what Jesus is saying. God is looking for people who worship him in the spiritual sense not in the physical sense that involves attachment to physical buildings. This is very easy to understand when you are spiritually awake but JWs don't understand it as they don't read the Bible in context to understand it.

OgaNightmare:
*Jesus choosing of the 12Apostles & Saint Paul being an apostle to the gentiles is a well known fact and has nothing to do with the matter at hand.
*The 144,000 stand before the throne and the lamb, the great multitude also stand before the throne, and serve in God's temple (naos) or sanctuary day and night.(Discussing this in detail much later)
* John 10:16
"And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must BRING THEM ALSO, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be ONE FLOCK (they're no longer separate), ONE SHEPERD(under one shepherd-Christ)"
Who was Jesus talking about? Jesus disciples we're only made up of Jews only and Christ promise that he must add another flock to the sheepfold. Evidently the Gentiles who later joined them in worship under the headship of Christ.
Using cross-references we arrive at what Paul said at Ephesians 2:12-16:

Ephesians:2.12
remember that at that time you were SEPARATE from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and FOREIGNERS to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.

Ephesians:2.13
But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.

Ephesians:2.14
For he himself is our peace, who has made the TWO ONE and has destroyed the BARRIER, the dividing wall of hostility,

Ephesians:2.15
by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself ONE new man out of the TWO, thus making peace,

Ephesians:2.16
and in this one body to reconcile BOTH OF THEM to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.
Paul here is using a different analogy but still talking about HOW the TWO become ONE.
That Christ through his dead abolished the law(which separated the Jews from the Gentiles) Christ atonement broke that barrier and made the two separate parties to become one.
*Luke:12.32
"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom."
#Jesus was and is eminently the Good Shepherd. His flock was small. Few really followed him, compared with the multitude who professed to love him. But, though small in number, they were not to fear. God was their Friend. He would provide for them.
It was his purpose to give them the kingdom, and they had nothing to fear.
(Jesus was specifically speaking to his twelve apostles who have their names written on the 12gates of the resplendent city "New Jerusalem"

*Matthew:25.40
"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these BROTHERS of mine, you did for me.'

#As adopted sons of God Christians automatically are "Christ brothers".
It includes those who are afflicted, poor, and persecuted, who are his brothers and companions in suffering, and who suffer as he did on earth. See Heb 2:11; Mt 12:50. How great is the condescension and kindness of the Judge of the world, thus to reward our actions, and to consider what we have done to the poor as done to him!

*Acts:4.12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved." (No other name apart from the name of Jesus)
Our salvation comes from no one else but Jesus. As for the least of Jesus brothers (members of the Christian Congregation) Christ will reward us if we treat this one's fairly.
Our salvation does not depend on any human, for we are saved through faith in Christ.

#THE GOODNEWS ACCORDING TO MAXIMUS A SLAVE OF WATCHTOWER AND A SHARER IN YOUR JINGOISM: """Apostle Paul declared to faithful Christians in the first century that the strange sickness that's leading to untimely death in their midst was due to eating and drinking the emblem Jesus only initiated for only his spiritual brothers!"""
#OUTRIGHT FALSEHOOD, EISESGESIS, DID YOU EVEN READ THE TEXT AT ALL?
What was the situation in Corinth? What really happened?
I'll be brief on this:
1 Corinthians:11.27
Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an UNWORTHY MANNER will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Corinthians:11.30
That is why many among you are WEAK and SICK, and a number of you have FALLEN ASLEEP.

#The main reason why the Corinthians were sick and some falling asleep (either in actual or more evidently spiritual death)[according to the context](NWT footnote reads "Spiritual death"
was partaking of the Lord's Evening meal in an UNWORTHY MANNER
The term unworthily, can mean unworthy or improper MANNER; in a manner unsuitable to the purposes for which it was designed or instituted;
and may include the following things,
(1.) Such an irregular and indecent observance as existed in the congregation of Corinth, where even gluttony and intemperance prevailed under the professed design of celebrating the Supper.
(2.) An observance of the ordinance where there was no distinction between it and common meals, where they did not regard it as designed to show forth the death of the Lord Jesus.
The observance of the Lord's Evening Meal should be well arrange and carried out in a dignified manner, if a Christian refuses to partake of the emblems how will he fulfill this command at 1 Corinthians:11.26:
"For whenever you EAT this bread and DRINK this cup, you PROCLAIM the LORD'S DEATH until he COMES".


THE BIBLE WARNS AT Galatians:1.8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

Galatians:1.9
As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
###########

Thank you for this comprehensive explanation of the scriptures about Salvation, Jews, Gentiles and the Lord's evening meal. You did your homework well. This is how to read and understand the Bible. Can you see that the explanation you gave is very easy to understand, moreso when you read these verses in as many translations as possible? Not that twisted JW NWT Bible? Watchtower says eating and drinking the emblems is doing so Unworthily as in you're not worthy. Very twisted interpretation. Paul mentioned Unworthily or consuming them in an unworthy manner without them remembering the essence of what the emblems stand for. The emblems are not avenues to overeat and overdrink. They represent the Blood and body of Christ so they must be treated with respect for Christ. When you read those verses in context, Paul went on to explain what he meant by consuming them Unworthily. He was actually saying they were eating and drinking heavily without considering others who eventually see nothing to eat and drink. Gluttony. Greed. Since health care had not developed to the stage we are in now at the time of Paul, overeating could cause problems for people and make them sick and die when there are no drugs to treat them. He even said they should wait for one another so that others can see Bread and wine to eat and drink and if anyone is hungry, he or she should eat at home first before coming. Watchtower never reads these parts where Paul was explaining what he meant. They just read a few verses, twist and scatter everything and form a doctrine on that because they have an agenda. Intelligent people read the Bible in context to understand the Bible not isolated verses like Watchtower does. Watchtower's interpretation of those verses to prevent JWs from being adopted sons of God and consuming the emblems is nothing but inspiration from Demons since Satanists don't eat and drink the emblems signifying rejection of Jesus's Sacrifice. Jesus already said if you want everlasting life, if you want to be resurrected, you must eat and drink the emblems else you get nothing. He said Anyone. Not Anointed. Not Great Crowd. Anyone.

OgaNightmare:
I think OtenaAron has been on this forum longer than you
I use to see him during the time of ChristianFreedo and RottenNaija
Is just this your intelligence officer that is confusing himself

Very good. So, you can testify to Mad MaxInDHouse 's delusion. He is a Disgrace to anything that Intelligence stands for. Those other people you mentioned I don't know them.

MaxInDHouse:
Templee333 spoke a lot about this too so YOU'RE NOT LYING Sir!

When I say you JWs are Satanists, you think I'm joking right?

Look at these pictures below from your Watchtower publication. Half of the pic is what is in there. When a mirror is placed beside the pic, the full picture is seen. Whose picture is that? That's Baphomet, god of Satanists a.k.a Lucifer a.k.a Great Architect of the Universe a.k.a Jehovah of the Freemasons. Watchtower cleverly put half of the pic in there but their Freemason brethren revealed you can see the full pic with a mirror. There are many demonic images cut in half in your publications like this one.

Tell me, what is the picture of Satan doing in your own Watchtower publication? What is the purpose of this?

Janosky:
Just live in peace with your DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.

When I say you JWs are Satanists, you think I'm joking right?

Look at these pictures below from your Watchtower publication. Half of the pic is what is in there. When a mirror is placed beside the pic, the full picture is seen. Whose picture is that? That's Baphomet, god of Satanists a.k.a Lucifer a.k.a Great Architect of the Universe a.k.a Jehovah of the Freemasons. Watchtower cleverly put half of the pic in there but their Freemason brethren revealed you can see the full pic with a mirror.

Tell me, what is the picture of Satan doing in your own Watchtower publication? What is the purpose of this?

OgaNightmare:
Thanks
I have a website that has all their old publications starting from William Miller to George storrss down to the present day.
I have their pioneers secret book alongside the latest edition of shepherd the flock.
Including leaked letters and documents, I will make sure I investigate them to the roots.

At the bolded, that's exactly what I resolved to do when I started waking up. You must know everything they are hiding from JWs.

Which website is that? Is that archive.org?That's another good resource for Old JW publications apart from jwfacts.com.

OgaNightmare:
Courz abeg which of their book be this
Mek I go download am

The book where they talked about Holy Spirit removed and messages from Angels is Titled Preservation published 1932 By Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and International Bible Students Association. Look at my screenshots above for the pages.

Another book that talked about anointed remnants receiving messages from Angels is Vindication Volume 3 published 1932 by Watchtower and IBSA. Check page 250.

You can get these books from jwfacts.com. Go to page where all Watchtower publications are and search for them under Books.

tctrills:
I don't understand your point, you stated earlier that JW could marry non-JW that was what I said.
Also, check 1 corinthians 7.39 it has nothing to do with the mother of Timothy.
1 Corinthians 7:39

39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

At the bolded, Are you seeing what I am talking about? You're seeing the lies abi?

Janosky:
Just live in peace with your DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.

But you are in a Satanic Cult. Your beloved Watchtower dabbles in spiritism to dish you JWs Rotten spiritual food at the proper time. Who are you to point fingers at another person when your situation is worse especially as you want to die in the Satanic Cult? Your situation is worse! You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace Jesus.

Tell me, your Freemason god below was bold enough to admit that Watchtower dabbles in Angel Magic by mentioning something that is completely foreign to the Bible/Christianity (Angel number 777). What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels as channel of communication and Jesus chased away the Holy Spirit when he came invisibly which explains why they are NOT inspired.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw

Janosky:
If our comments offended you,no vex.
I don't mean to be harsh , but I must say it as it is, more especially when the OP is not honest.

Fact is:
The OP has ,atimes, allowed his bias and in most cases, misrepresentations, to colour this thread.

I come in peace.

But you are in a Satanic Cult. Your beloved Watchtower dabbles in spiritism to dish you JWs Rotten spiritual food at the proper time. Who are you to point fingers at another person when your situation is worse especially as you want to die in the Satanic Cult? Your situation is worse! You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace Jesus.

Tell me, your Freemason god below was bold enough to admit that Watchtower dabbles in Angel Magic by mentioning something that is completely foreign to the Bible/Christianity (Angel number 777). What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels as channel of communication and Jesus chased away the Holy Spirit when he came invisibly which explains why they are NOT inspired.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw

Janosky:
You have confirmed your hypocrisy & LYING with this comment.

Have any JW ever said JWs are perfect?
Not at all !

But you are in a Satanic Cult. Your beloved Watchtower dabbles in spiritism to dish you JWs Rotten spiritual food at the proper time. Who are you to point fingers at another person when your situation is worse especially as you want to die in the Satanic Cult? Your situation is worse! You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace Jesus.

Tell me, your Freemason god below was bold enough to admit that Watchtower dabbles in Angel Magic by mentioning something that is completely foreign to the Bible/Christianity (Angel number 777). What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels as channel of communication and Jesus chased away the Holy Spirit when he came invisibly which explains why they are NOT inspired.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw

Janosky:
Courz DELUSIONAL Conjectures no be evidence.


When you are loyal to your wife or marital vows, are you loyal to God?
Does that mean your wife is God?

Abeg carry your GIBBERISH outta here.

It was revealed by a Bethelite who wanted to recruit this Ex Bethelite below into a Coven At Bethel that Right from the inception of Watchtower, the Occult known as Spirit Channelling has been the means by which Watchtower gets Bible Truths as shown in this video below. Remember, your founder Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and we must accept Truth wherever you find it as shown in the underlined words of the Watchtower below. What is the One True religion doing with Occultism to acquire Bible truths?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQnZbyRko

Janosky:
COURZ INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM separate from reality.

If these False Prophecies below failed, never came from God, and proved to be Lies, where did they come from? Remember, Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God. And Almighty God says in the below scripture Zechariah 13 vs 2 that False Prophets move with spirits of impurity /unclean spirits/demons. Tell me, where did all these False prophecies come from based on the words of God?

Janosky:
Templee333 already PROVEN COURZ INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM for sighting Masonic symbols inside Courz head,far from reality.
JW kingdom Halls have no pagan symbols you find in Christendom.

It was revealed by a Bethelite who wanted to recruit this Ex Bethelite below into a Coven At Bethel that Right from the inception of Watchtower, the Occult known as Spirit Channelling has been the means by which Watchtower gets Bible Truths as shown in this video below. Remember, your founder Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and we must accept Truth wherever you find it as shown in the underlined words of the Watchtower below. What is the One True religion doing with Occultism to acquire Bible truths?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQnZbyRko

Janosky:
Who controls the thinking of OLAADEGBU & deeper lifers?

I challenge you to show Nairaland a deeper life church sermon kumuyi did not approve.
The same OLAADEGBU who tells Nairaland that "Jehovah" is not God's name is singing a hymn
"O Guide me great Jehovah"


I will expose OLAADEGBU hypocrisy on this thread.


Hypocrite feeding on kumuyi GIBBERISH.

It was revealed by a Bethelite who wanted to recruit this Ex Bethelite below into a Coven At Bethel that Right from the inception of Watchtower, the Occult known as Spirit Channelling has been the means by which Watchtower gets Bible Truths as shown in this video below. Remember, your founder Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and we must accept Truth wherever you find it as shown in the underlined words of the Watchtower below. What is the One True religion doing with Occultism to acquire Bible truths?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQnZbyRko

Janosky:
Courz delusional symptoms of IBERIBEISM.
1 Corinthians 1:10-11 & Romans 15:6, Jehovah our God & his son Jesus Christ loathes dissenting voices. "Unitedly speak with one voice",JWs Obey.
Romans 15:6,E dey for COURZ own Bible?

The red flag dey inside your deluded head
Every human is God's enemy because of our sinful, imperfect state, until you become Jehovah's servant redeemed from sin with prospect of close friendship with Jehovah, just like Abraham our forefather,by faith.
Romans 3:9-10,22-23.

Courz IBERIBE analogy.

ALL this COURZ INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.
Go & love your family more than you love Jehovah God, that's Courz cup of tea.
Matt 10:32-38, JWs our love Jehovah our God more than our family,na so Jesus Christ teach us.
E pain you COURZ,ku isi na wall.

Disfellowship is prison/quarantine for unrepentant wrong doing.
If a criminal takes his own life in prison, you blame the Government?
Courz IBERIBEISM
.

Courz demonic LOONY LYING on Nairaland.
g84 2/22 pp "THEY RESISTED RAPISTS"
Screenshot evidence.

If COURZ get liver,he would post the whole content of g84 2/22 pp Awake magazine.
Courz unique talent for LYING.

But you are in a Satanic Cult. Your beloved Watchtower dabbles in spiritism to dish you JWs Rotten spiritual food at the proper time. Who are you to point fingers at another person when your situation is worse especially as you want to die in the Satanic Cult? Your situation is worse! You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace Jesus.

Tell me, your Freemason god below was bold enough to admit that Watchtower dabbles in Angel Magic by mentioning something that is completely foreign to the Bible/Christianity (Angel number 777). What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels as channel of communication and Jesus chased away the Holy Spirit when he came invisibly which explains why they are NOT inspired.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw

This is so funny.

Templee333:
...All of us who wrote tributes appeared b4 the elders on Sunday after meeting & the burial program was brought b4 us & they told us how serious was the sin of writing a tribute to a dead person.Earlier that morning, i insisted b4 my father that i will tell the truth instead of lying as he told us to. Maybe my dad knew that the issue will affect his position as an elder & threaten me never to come back to his house if i failed to lie as he instructed. So as we sat b4 the elders we all denied that my non witness aunt wrote all the tributes on our behalf without our consent. The elders postponed the case to next week until further investigations...

What on earth is wrong with writing tributes to a Lost loved one? Talking about how good the person was, how the person imparted your life, does that constitute worshipping a dead person? Because I know that is what JWs will say. Is this worship? Everything is a sin to a JW yet Sin never leaves them. Don't they know that this is how most people choose to mourn their dead to make the whole burial ceremony a positive one? Who are you to make rules on how to mourn? A natural human thing to do.

Any burial of a JW is not a normal burial. It is all about Preaching about their beliefs. They don't like to talk about the dead person. JWs don't like to mourn their dead. They talk about the Resurrection which is fine. But even if there's a resurrection, people just want to mourn their dead as humans. Even though Jesus was going to resurrect Lazarus, he still wept. This is why some people choose to mourn by writing and saying good things about their loved ones. Why can't Watchtower allow people to mourn like normal humans should?

What sin did you commit by writing about the resurrection for your Grandmum?

Cult!

Templee333:
Its easy to conclude that the BCS & Eckist are of better behaviour than the JW. While i was relating my experience with the former 2, i received no insults,except frm non members. But here the JW (who claim to have the best behaviour in the whole world) cant just stop throwing insults at someone who doesnt give them any attention. I wish they could just practise what they preach.

When you are an empty vessel that has been taught to boast about yourself everywhere you go with nothing to show for it, this is the result. JWs are obsessed with image and not in improving their personality. Many of them just use the fake image to cover bad behaviour.

Prevailing:
Lols at "truth presented by satan" the father of lies

Very funny abi? And yet for some strange reason Charles Taze Russell believed some good can come from the Father of Lies, the Master deceiver. Truth come from Satan? Watchtower believes it too. Hence, their ties to the Occult. The only explanation to this twisted belief is Freemasonry. All Watchtower's prophecies are Lies! Who else will be feeding you these Lies when they never came from Almighty God himself?

Now if other religions had founders that had these strange beliefs that are occultic, JWs will be quick and eager to point it out and say, "See? that shows that these people are part of Fasle religion. We are better than them". But now, here is their own founder expressing occultic/Esoteric beliefs and they are busy denying him. They are pretending they don't know him. They are ashamed of their Pagan history. Hypocrites!

Templee333:
MUSIC
We were taught not to sing or listen to religious songs of other churches.But what i didn't understnd was why JW had no probem singing & listening to "worldly song" like Timaya & P-square,no matter how dirty the lyrics were.In a JW traditional marriage or Wedding receptions we were free to play worldly songs except Christian hymns & praises.A christian artist is considered a satanist. If ur radio or tv station starts a church song or program u had to change the station.But when 2face,J martins played,there's no problem. That issue caused arguments between me & other brothers many times because i didn't welcome the idea of accepting worldly songs but reject christian songs. JW loved & enjoyed naija music more than their Kingdom melodies & i didn't like it that way.In their audio player lists u'd see naija music more than their kingdom song. Kingdom songs were dull & uninteresting to them. But i couldn't keep up with the hypocrisy of it all. I had to learn to love Kingdom songs...

Oh yes. JWs are allergic to Gospel music. They will immediately switch off radio or change the channels when Gospel music is on. You know how in movies Vampires react badly to sunlight? That's how it is with JWs and Gospel music. Isn't it strange that Watchtower programmed all JWs to react the same way to Gospel music? Most of these songs are actually Praising God and Jesus which is exactly what happened in Heaven in the book of Revelations. So why this disdain for this music? There is something demonic to that.

About their songs, there were very few songs I liked but the majority are just tiring to sing. JWs know how to stretch songs so long that it sounds terribly boring. The new songs they have now? Horrible! And everybody is being forced to like them that way. I heard JW songs are quite similar to Masonic songs. Most people are beginning to notice that their new songs are beginning to sound like Gospel songs.

achorladey:
Special knowledge like this.......

Can you identify or show the difference in the group of words labelled A and B

A. Last part of that last day.... year 1967

B. Shortly before the last day of the last days..... year 2020

Is the light getting brighter or going into darkness?

They were already in the last day in year 1967 53 years after...... year 2020 they were shortly before the last day

Yeah. Just like the picture below. They have been singing the final part of the final part of the last day just before the last day song since the 1960s. They can't fix date like before because of the millions of JWs they lost but it is already too late Because Almighty God has already exposed them as False prophets. I pity JWs that take these idiots seriously.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm really enjoying this!
So honest hearted and sincere followers of the thread can see that you're not interested in Jesus rather all your concern is JWs JWs JWs! Matthew 5:11-12

It was revealed by a Bethelite who wanted to recruit this Ex Bethelite below into a Coven At Bethel that Right from the inception of Watchtower, the Occult known as Spirit Channelling has been the means by which Watchtower gets Bible Truths as shown in this video below. Remember, your founder Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and we must accept Truth wherever you find it as shown in the underlined words of the Watchtower below. What is the One True religion doing with Occultism to acquire Bible truths?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQnZbyRko

MaxInDHouse:
I'm really enjoying this!
So honest hearted and sincere followers of the thread can see that you're not interested in Jesus rather all your concern is JWs JWs JWs! Matthew 5:11-12

If these False Prophecies below failed, never came from God, and proved to be Lies, where did they come from? Remember, Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God. And Almighty God says in the below scripture Zechariah 13 vs 2 that False Prophets move with spirits of impurity /unclean spirits/demons. Tell me, where did all these False prophecies come from based on the words of God?

MaxInDHouse:
I asked you just one question to be sure that you still believe in Jesus of Nazareth:

Do you know what the Bible foretell followers of Christ should be doing today as God's will?

It was revealed by a Bethelite who wanted to recruit this Ex Bethelite below into a Coven At Bethel that Right from the inception of Watchtower, the Occult known as Spirit Channelling has been the means by which Watchtower gets Bible Truths as shown in this video below. Remember, your founder Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and we must accept Truth wherever you find it as shown in the underlined words of the Watchtower below. What is the One True religion doing with Occultism to acquire Bible truths?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQnZbyRko

MaxInDHouse:
I asked you just one question to be sure that you still believe in Jesus of Nazareth:

Do you know what the Bible foretell followers of Christ should be doing today as God's will?

If these False Prophecies below failed, never came from God, and proved to be Lies, where did they come from? Remember, Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God. And Almighty God says in the below scripture Zechariah 13 vs 2 that False Prophets move with spirits of impurity /unclean spirits/demons. Tell me, where did all these False prophecies come from based on the words of God?

MaxInDHouse:
The problem with you is that you listened with keen interest to Apostates far much more than you did during your days among JWs.
That's why you carry all what they told you in their website everywhere you go.

I'm 100% sure that Templee333 also decided to live his life without being under any religious oversight but the difference between you and him is that he never go deep into the websites of Apostates like you've invested so much, that's why everything you've been posting on this forum seems strange to him.

Of course he also agreed with the common slogan of the Apostates "JW is a CULT" as that's the first thing the Apostates tell you to format everything you can think about Jesus and his teachings so by the time you're deep in their ideology you will find out that you can't even preach anything about Jesus again because you will end up coming to agree with what you want to trash JW organization where you must live your life in harmony with the same line of thought with fellow believers! John 17:22

Based on my understanding Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of the group.
Why did i come to that conclusion?

Group founders always have a unique teaching that the group mustn't temper with.
Most of the things Russell believe has been changed!

Group founders always pass on the mantle of leadership to their bloodline. No Russell is a member of the Body after his death!

Group founders are taken as infallible. The organization teaches that the Governing Body is not infallible.

Only Group founders makes changes at will but the organization keep making amendments till now saying Jesus is directing them.

So saying Charles Taze Russell whose teachings no longer holds water today is the founder any right thinking person should know that can't be true!

If these False Prophecies below failed, never came from God, and proved to be Lies, where did they come from? Remember, Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God. And Almighty God says in the below scripture Zechariah 13 vs 2 that False Prophets move with spirits of impurity /unclean spirits/demons. Tell me, where did all these False prophecies come from based on the words of God?

MaxInDHouse:
The problem with you is that you listened with keen interest to Apostates far much more than you did during your days among JWs.
That's why you carry all what they told you in their website everywhere you go.

I'm 100% sure that Templee333 also decided to live his life without being under any religious oversight but the difference between you and him is that he never go deep into the websites of Apostates like you've invested so much, that's why everything you've been posting on this forum seems strange to him.

Of course he also agreed with the common slogan of the Apostates "JW is a CULT" as that's the first thing the Apostates tell you to format everything you can think about Jesus and his teachings so by the time you're deep in their ideology you will find out that you can't even preach anything about Jesus again because you will end up coming to agree with what you want to trash JW organization where you must live your life in harmony with the same line of thought with fellow believers! John 17:22

Based on my understanding Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of the group.
Why did i come to that conclusion?

Group founders always have a unique teaching that the group mustn't temper with.
Most of the things Russell believe has been changed!

Group founders always pass on the mantle of leadership to their bloodline. No Russell is a member of the Body after his death!

Group founders are taken as infallible. The organization teaches that the Governing Body is not infallible.

Only Group founders makes changes at will but the organization keep making amendments till now saying Jesus is directing them.

So saying Charles Taze Russell whose teachings no longer holds water today is the founder any right thinking person should know that can't be true!

It was revealed by a Bethelite who wanted to recruit this Ex Bethelite below into a Coven At Bethel that Right from the inception of Watchtower, the Occult known as Spirit Channelling has been the means by which Watchtower gets Bible Truths as shown in this video below. Remember, your founder Charles Taze Russell believed that Truth presented by Satan is just as True as Truth stated by God and we must accept Truth wherever you find it as shown in the underlined words of the Watchtower below. What is the One True religion doing with Occultism to acquire Bible truths?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQnZbyRko