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MaxInDHouse:
Chai Cornelboy don rearrange oteneaaron's name!

What really baffles me is how Templee333 has refused to say anything about all the freemason, cult and demonic symbols brouhaha oteneaaron (Courz) has been talking about for years on this forum, yet he was also a JW!

Can we conclude that his SuperStory has not come to that part or he never saw anything of that nature in all his years with JWs?

Abeg that's my own question o!

Readers, there is confusion in this comment abi? He mentions Oteneaaron and me Courz and lumps the two of us together. Remember some comments back, I said Watchtower teaches JWs to be delusional. This comment is a Classic case of it.

This fellow believes that Oteneaaron and I are one and the same person. Why? Simply because Oteneaaron created a thread titled Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons. Because I have more than enough evidence to back up that thread, I dominated the thread. Mad MaxInDHouse seeing this, believed we are the same person and began to accuse us. Is that a logical conclusion to arrive at? No. What happened here? JWs were overwhelmed by the hard core evidence in that thread. The thread choke! They were so bitter that they began to lump 2 or 3 persons together to form one person. What is that called? Delusion.

JWs pride themselves of being best in arguments. When they are losing in it, they become sore losers. They either start name calling you or start attaching Satan to you or start saying you have different monikers. Seeing different monikers challenging them is overwhelming. So, to make themselves feel better psychologically, they start lumping 2 or 3 monikers together.

I know I have somewhat dominated this thread. Readers, does that mean I am Templee333 too? Mad MaxInDHouse claims to be an Intelligent officer. But it is disgraceful that he cannot tell the difference between I and Oteneaaron. We don't share similar beliefs. I am a Christian. I made that very clear in the Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons Thread. I keep pointing fingers at the JWs with the Bible. My comments have been reflecting that. That should tell you something as a sane person. But still, Mad MaxInDHouse can't tell the difference. The delusion is strong isn't it?

Readers, this is how the psyche of a JW works. Do you want to be like this?

Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse.

cornelboy:
Curse don't be quick to quote me. I would not reply nor read your stories.

Lets analyse this comment, readers. Do you notice he did not directly quote me? Amongst the JW minions in this forum, this guy is the weakest. E no sabi argue with facts and figures. He only repeats what his JW teacher told him. Finish! He only has strength for arguing against Muslims. He is a JW soldier but he is not that strong. The guy dey choose im battle. E don tire for my matter
This is why he didn't quote me. He said he won't reply but do we care about that?

Cornelboy, I am quoting you not because I want you to reply me. In case you haven't noticed, I am using you JWs comments for analysis to help readers understand you and your Cult better.

Once again, Thanks Cornelboy.

cornelboy:
That's an evidence that JWs don't follow the governing body blindly, they do things out of free will like everyone else. But guided by the TRUTH.

What's your business if JWs don't follow the advice of the GB about apostates?

We are here to defend our faith and help the innocent ones.

Let's take a look at this fellow's comment, shall we?

First paragraph, he claims that they interacting with us EXJWs is a sign that they have free will. This is how JWs talk. From both sides of their mouth. They come up with a contradictory concept to back up actions that don't make sense. Not only is his statement wrong, but if Elders and COs get to know this statement he made and what they are doing in this thread, they will be disciplined/disgraced. Get reproved/given a warning to desist from these discussions! And Yes, you are to follow Watchtower blindly. That is what they require of you! Blind obedience! Don't complain. Just Obey. I don't think you are ready to be a JW cornelboy. Except you are saying you want to be a Fair weather/Unserious JW, free to break their rules and make people like Janosky jealous of you.

He also contradicted the rules of Watchtower and disregarded the warning from their Governing body member (JW Top Leader) in that video he quoted. Instead of him to say he disagrees with Watchtower's order to stay away from Apostates, he twisted his brain and blurted out Free Will. He forgets that Free Will and Watchtower cannot be in the same sentence. There are rules! You must follow those rules else you wil be punished! Look at the pic I posted below. Watchtower says be ready to obey whether what they tell you makes sense or not!

Now, he says, "We are here to defend our faith and help the innocent ones". That's understandable right? But Watchtower specifically asked them to avoid Apostates! Why can't JWs be open and Question Watchtower against staying away from EXJWs since they all love our company? While you are disobeying Watchtower, are you ready for the consequences? Because your Elders and COs don't give a damn if you are defending your faith! If you're caught and they get your name and congregation, you will be punished!

This fellow is interesting because he is not yet a JW and is studying with JWs. But you can feel the JW ginger in him. Why? Because when people start to allow JWs study with them for long, they begin to reason and act like them due to the Brainwashing taught to JWs. This is similar to what happened with Mad MaxInDHouse. So, this dude is now a JW soldier.

Thanks cornelboy.

Janosky:
Courz Oteneaaron,Templee333 pledge allegiance to Atheism, their disdain for Jesus Christ and his Father, Jehovah is very luminous.

I , Janosky pledge my allegiance to Jehovah my Creator, that is the first question &response for brothers ready for baptism (go to Courz Oteneaaron screenshot,& confirm ).

My post will Rob you of sleep starting from tonight.

Go and report am to David Splane.

Readers, please take note of his comment saying : their disdain for Jesus Christ and his Father, Jehovah. Are you getting me now? Like I said earlier, anyone who leaves the JWs has disdain for Jesus and Almighty God. Watchtower's mindset. It doesn't matter how many times you have obviously shown belief in God and Jesus. As long as you're not a JW, you are for Satan.

His 2nd paragraph, he omitted a vital info. What he didn't say is that he pledged his allegiance to The Organisation. Remember, Jehovah=The organisation=The Governing body. Why didn't he mention the organization?

Thanks Janosky.

Janosky:
JWs study in every University in this clime and NONE AT ALL was excommunicated for studying in a University,yet you,Courz make FALSE claims and throw tantrums upandan on this forum.

I repeat:
I REFUSE to take responsibility for COURZ INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.

My fellow Readers, Please take note of the first words up in this comment: JWs study in every University. I had already mentioned this, didn't I? JWs inwardly disagree with Watchtower on this rule. Okay. What does this his comment show? It shows that he is ashamed of the "No University" rule and he is saying that he disagrees with Watchtower but he cannot say it.

His comment also shows that his brain is going through some confusion because he tries so hard to avoid mentioning the fact that Elders and Ministerial servants that either go to the University or have children there are removed from their positions! He is purposely avoiding that fact because it is an unpleasant and embarrassing thing to talk about in Public, moreso, amongst Non JWs. This is why his brain twisted many times making him to type about Disfellowshipping when it is totally unrelated to the topic. Did I mention anything about Disfellowshipping as regards University Education? No. See? He is confused again. This is how it is to be a JW. Confused! and looking stupid too.

Look at the pics below. These are proof that Watchtower removes Elders and Ministerial servants involved in University education. Elders have a secret Handbook that no other JW is allowed to read. In it, their stand on University is there.

Thanks Janosky.

MaxInDHouse:
Well i don't know about you o maybe you feel since all your family members are JWs you don't need to take note of their rules perhaps you're covered but as a former Muslim i questioned all their rules, in fact i know all their rules before i started attending their meetings!
HOW?
While i was studying with them i fortunately had an apostate (exjw) friend who kept feeding me with all the things that i may face as a baptized JW so anytime they come for my study that is what we must treat before we can commence on the study of the book "You Can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth" i finished that book and another "Knowledge That Leads To Everlasting Life" and some other books i read from cover to cover asking them questions before i later started studying another book "What Does The Bible Really Teach?"
In fact most of those i knew back in the early to late 90s that were also studying back then are now serving as elders among JWs but i took all the time to find out everything thing manly possible before i finally surrendered to their teachings.

So my own case is SPECIAL, i no just jump inside i look Wella Wella! 1Thessalonians 5:21

Fellow readers, Let's take a look at his response. He claims to have jumped from Islam to JW. He says he has done all research about the Cult. You can see how sketchy his so called research is. His research is not thorough. He just asked them a bunch of questions and he accepted what they gave him. He disregarded an ExJW's warning and went ahead. Did he bother to ask as many ExJWs as possible about the Cult? No. Did he research this Cult online thoroughly? No. Remember, JWs always tell their Bible Students to shun anything bad that is said about JWs. JWs are trained to brainwash their Bible Students to think along that line. His JW teachers must have warned him to stay away from EXJWs, even calling them unrepentant wrongdoers fit for destruction. Remember, he is coming from an Islamic background with very low knowledge of Christianity. So, he is a baby Christian. I see it in some of his comments on Nairaland. In Islam, you can't question your leaders! Same shit! This is why it was easy to transition from one form of fanaticism to another.

Most People who want to join the Cult don't research it properly. The Cult attracts people that are Ignorant of the Bible and of the Cult. The only people who back off from the Cult are those who go to ExJWs forums, ask all the questions they need and ExJWs provide various information to these ones. This is how to make an informed decision. It is only the reviews of buyers that can help other buyers about certain products. Read the reviews. Basic common sense!

Once again, Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse.

Janosky:
You make a pledge,an oath to serve your country with everything you have, what is "cult" about that?

You guys rambling upandan about "cult" the label you guys tag JWs , ALL of una dey "ment", una SENSE dey down down south.

Nonsense !!!!

Readers, look at his first paragraph. That is Classic Cult 101. He is equating country to Watchtower. I guess Watchtower is a country now. A human government. Do you see how his brain twisted here to fight for his Cult?

2nd and 3rd paragraphs, just a bunch of crap I guess. This is a JW's response when they are losing their arguments. We are not even arguing o. But he is all jittery and pained.

Thanks Janosky.

Janosky:
I refuse to take responsibility for Courz infinite delusion & IBERIBEISM

Readers, do you see this response? What does that tell you? He has done all the twisting in his brain. I think he is tired. Once again, he doesn't know what to say because I was correct. So, he just blurted out words he first learned as a Baby.

Ahn Ahn! You JW minions are just making our testimonies in this thread a lot easier than I thought. Hmm. Thanks Janosky.

MaxInDHouse:
And thanks for misconstruing the whole thing!
An unrepentant wrongdoers is one who vowed to live his life in harmony with the rules set up in a society, before making a pledge you must have studied all the rules of the society first so that by the time you break any of the rules your own conscience supposed to be the judge not someone else!
For instance, as a Nigerian most of you do say:

"i pledge to Nigeria my country, to be faithful loyal and honest, to serve Nigeria with all my strength, to defend her unity and uphold her honour and glory, so help me God"

With this alone millions are bringing a curse upon the nation!

WHY?


So if you're not ready to become a bona fide member of any community why swearing an oath?
Jehovah's Witnesses organization will spend months with any interested person studying the scriptures and noting all what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus COMMANDED {Matthew 28:19-20} please if you're not ready to live your life in harmony with all these rules why do you make a vow? Luke 9:62
No wonder Jesus referred to people like as WORKERS of LAWLESSNESS/ INIQUITY! Matthew 7:23

Readers, are you taking notes of the bolded words? This is what the Cult is all about. Rules. Pledges. Oaths.

Look at his 1st paragraph. Unrepentant wrongdoers. Same Judgemental energy.

Now remember this, JWs do not mention all their rules to people they preach to. There are many things a student studying with them are not told. It is until you have become baptised, when it is too late, that you will get to know the rest of their unpalatable rules. They will do what we call [b]Love bombing till you are lured and get baptised.

Another thing to note. JWs do not preach to simply spread the Gospel. They preach mainly to convert you. They are required to stop studying with anyone that is not responsive or refuses to attend their meetings or make any progress to Baptism.

Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse.

Janosky:
"Cover your tracks" of unrepentant wrong doing & lawlessness from Jehovah God?
Hebrews 4:13 & Galatians 6:7 no dey Courz deluded mind and it's even missing from Courz own Bible.



Schooling no dey make anybody lawless & "cover their tracks of unrepentant wrong doing.
Na wicked heart dey shut
All the LIES and DELUSION dey inside Courz disconnected from reality.

JWs dey go school wella.
Campus Congregation dey where school dey.

Another Exhibit. Readers, look at his first response in firat paragraph. This guy is still all over the place. He knows people like this exist. And he is among JWS that shun or look down on them. He is actually angry that he is here busting his a55 for Watchtower while othera are living their lives freely against their rules. Hence, the hateful comment.

Look at the 2nd paragraph of his comment. A bunch of incoherent crap, isn't it?

Now look at his 3 rd paragraph. He knows that the Watchtower rule against University is embarrassing. In fact, JWs never tell people about this. But in his case, he defends Unserious JWs that go against Watchtower rules of education. This guy is obviously confused. He forgets that Elders and Ministerial servants are removed from their posts if they go against Watchtower in this. But deep down, he disagrees with Watchtower in this. And guess what? He can't open his mouth in the Kingdom hall to oppose this rule. In fact, JWs are one of the most confused people. Hence his comment.

Thanks Janosky.

Janosky:
Courz infinitely connected to delusion.
Did Courz open a thread on Nairaland disagreeing with JWs?

Very DUBIOUS COURZ.



COURZ DUBIOUS DELUSIONAL CONJECTURE.

For COURZ mind, DUBIOUSNESS na "critical thinking"

Another Exhibit. Readers, do you see his response above? He actually said nothing but splatter my name all over the place. Do you know why? Because what I typed are all true. He has seen similar scenarios. He once had doubts. But one thing you must understand, JWs are taught to ignore everything. Like I said earlier, to them, everything is fine. He has come across verses like that. But what kept him in line are those words of Watchtower, "Who are you to understand anything in the Bible? Don't bother to think. Let me do the thinking for you. Follow the Faithful and discreet slave for Salvation." His brain then reset. Robotlike.

This is why he is speechless and has no choice than to splatter my name all over his comment.

Thanks Janosky.

Janosky:
COURZ SYMPTOMS OF INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.

Another Exhibit. Readers, This is what happens when a JW Is faced with facts. He knows all what I typed there is true. But because he is in "Defend Watchtower" mode and he has also faced what I typed, he is speechless. He has tried to make twists and turns in his brain but he really needed to respond. So, he had to post some crap and a pic instead.

Readers, pay attention to how they are typing their responses. You will learn a lot.

Thanks Janosky.

MaxInDHouse:
So how do you expect a willful sinner to feel free in the midst of faithful people?
Even ordinarily greeting at the kingdom hall will become a problem because they're feeling that through discussion with you you may find out something they're hiding. That's when all eyes from right, left, front, back and center becomes "JUDGMENTAL LOOKS"

Another Exhibit up here. Readers, do you see this statement above? This is the typical JW. Remember, I said JWs are Extremely Judgemental. This fellow describes a JW that marries outside the Cult as a Willful Sinner. At least, you all are seeing what we are talking about here. You can have a very good heart or personality but go against the unreasonable rules of Watchtower, you are a Sinner. And be rest assured that this fellow will shun you like a Murderer.

Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse.

Janosky:
Your total disconnect from the scriptures is luminous.
Better still, your total disconnect from reality is fantastic, coming from the same DUBIOUS Courz intertwined to delusion.

From the old to new testament, were Jehovah's servants permitted to marry outside the Faith?
No !
Courz DUBIOUS Furious man who has accused JWs of not aspiring to riches don change tune again.
Do you respect what you disdain?
No.
JWs don't worship Mammon.
Mammon worship na pastorpreneurs format.

Among JWs,Nobody gives anyone "judgemental looks" for failing to stick to Bible standards.
When you fall short of Jehovah's standards, you know say you no do well,no be person go tell you,abi you no get conscience ?

People reading this thread, do you see his response above? Goes in line with what I have been saying all this while. He went through several twists and turns to give this response. In an earlier comment, he said JWs actually marry outside themselves. Then here he is justifying the Watchtower rule. Double speak. His brain is really in confusion right now. You see how he switched off the part of the brain for critical thinking then went to "Defend Watchtower" mode. Then he starts blabbing incoherent crap. The guy is all over the place because he is going through turmoil in the brain. That's what it's like being a JW.

Thank you for proving me right Janosky.

tctrills:
Nope tell me.

You must have come across this word JWs use Apostate. Watchtower teaches that JWs that go against the Cult are Apostates. If you question the leadership, you are an Apostate. If you have a different view from the Cult or their doctrines, you are an Apostate. If you decide to leave the Cult, you are an Apostate. In the rankings of what is bad, Apostate is Number one in JW Land. A pagan is more acceptable to a JW than an Apostate. All ExJWs are seen as Apostates! The word Apostate changes the countenance of a JW because that is exactly what Watchtower wants!

Now, ExJWs have been demonised because Watchtower says JWs are never to leave the Cult! Anyone that leaves is for Satan and has left God. That person will be destroyed by God at Armaggedon. If anyone leaves, the person will suffer without them. Their lives will be miserable without Watchtower. See? Narcissistic and abusive traits!

Another reason EXJWs are demonised is that they dared to research the Cult outside their approved website! The internet is the greatest enemy of the Cult. As a JW, you are not allowed to research the Cult for whatever reason! Ever! Once you do, you will never look at the Cult the same again. Because EXJWs researched the Cult and found so many unspeakable things and decided to leave, EXJWs are worse than pagans! Now, because of the immense sources of information, forbidden information about Watchtower that ExJWs are armed with capable of bringing them down, Watchtower warns Active JWs to stay away from them so that they don't get to know all the unspeakable facts about the Cult and the scam they are running. So, that their weak Faith in the Cult does not vanish. It is a control tactic to force JWs in the Cult.

The above is what we call Information Control. Another sign of a Cult. Google some cults. They all forbid their members from associating with Ex Members. This is done out of fear of losing members when they know they have dirty secrets to hide.

Now have it in mind that once a JW leaves the Cult, all JWs including the person's family must stay away from that person. That is Shunning. The Cult destroys the Family unit. In western countries, it is common for JWs to shun their families for 10,15 years or even till death.

tctrills:
I know you guys have a rule not to be involved in any way with formal members but I am happy you braved it even if it means breaking the rule. This makes the discussion balanced and fair.

At the bolded, do you know why JWs are to avoid ExJWs?

You are not allowed to disagree with the JWs. You can see that now! Similar trait inherited from Watchtower.

Let me explain how Watchtower works in the brain of a JW.

A JW reads a verse and finds that this verse contradicts their beliefs. Watchtower says, "who are you to make conclusions on what you read? Do you know better than us? We are the Faithful Slave giving you spiritual food at the proper time. How can you depend on your own understanding? You cannot rely on your thoughts. Your thoughts are Faulty. Don't you know critical and independent thinking is demonic and a tool of Satan? Trust us as you Trust God. Wait on Jehovah and let him sort out or correct matters on his own. Don't bother to think. Let us do the thinking for you. "

If you are this JW, you will wait forever!



The above scenario is known as Mind Control. Google it.

tctrills:
Let me ask you a question and I need a sincere answer. JW members always speak of the great love they share among themselves. I know you have spoken of the bad examples of the leaders but in general, would you say they have great love among themselves? I tend to believe this because they always end up getting married to themselves.

For the Love amongst JWs, I have discussed on it. You can go back to my previous comments.

As for marrying amongst themselves, it is a rule of Watchtower. As a JW, you must marry a fellow JW. If you plan on marrying a non JW, Elders will discourage you against it. If you go ahead to marry this person and you have a family that is JW, None of them will attend your wedding including your fellow JWs! You will be marked! What that means is a Marking Talk in the Kingdom Hall will be given discouraging marrying outside JW and it will be given in such a way that JWs will know you are the one they are talking about in that talk. So, If you are the subject of a Marking talk, it is best not to go to the Kingdom Hall that day because of the kind of Judgemental looks you will get. You will pray for the grouund to swallow you up. JWs are extremely Judgemental! You will also be looked down on as Spiritually weak unless you are rich.

So, it is never out of Love for themselves that they marry themselves. It is because it is Mandatory to do so and there are consequences for doing otherwise.

Templee333:
you might not really understand JW except u pass through it. Even JW who aren't faithful members of the organization still hardly understand it.Only most devoted members know how terribly bad it is when they are honest enough to admit it. But unfortunately, an active member often closes his reasoning ability & deny reality in other to continue his race for life in the one & only true religion.

Very true. In order for active JWs to make sense of the religion and continue in it, they have switch off that part of the brain that is responsible for critical thinking and questioning. Watchtower frowns against questioning and teaches JWs to learn to ignore reality to preserve their Faith in the religion. JWs are trained psychologically to make excuses for Watchtower's failures. Faith in the religion is Number One. This is why Watchtower is against Higher Education/University. Anything that makes a JW to question must be shut down immediately and flushed out from the brain. A JW has to make several twists and turns in his brain in order to justify Watchtower's doctrines and policies. This is how the brain of a JW works.

tctrills:
Interesting

It is indeed. Now, in order for some JWs to maintain their sanity while in the Cult since they can't leave without consequences, they decide to be Fair weather JWs or Fade. They are Physically in the Cult but mentally Out of it. They do some of what they want regardless of the rules and Know how to cover their tracks. They attend University and aim higher for higher degrees and have absolutely no interest in Positions in the religion. They don't always attend the meetings/Kingdom Hall. They don't take the doctrines seriously. They only come on special occasions like the Memorial of Christ's death, conventions. After that, you won't see them again. They marry who they want. Let's face it. We are Humans and we need rules but Authoritarian way of control will definitely breed Rebels and not every JW will follow through.

These Fair weather JWs are seen as Spiritually Low or Not exemplary or Bad association by the rest of the JWs that take the religion seriously. JWs usually don't associate with these people. They are outcasts. They are usually shunned by other JWs and hardly acknowledged except they are rich with flashy cars and live in Mansions. So, they usually associate with JWs who are just like them in mindset. There are a lot of cliques in the religion. Rich associates with Rich, Poor associates with Poor, unserious associates with unserious, Fanatics associate with Fanatics. If you don't fall into a particular clique when you are trying to expand your friendships, you will be treated in a certain way that is degrading. Too many cliques.

So, as an outsider, you will look at JWs as One United Big family because they have a reputation for being that. But reputations can be fake. What matters is what goes on amongst them when no outsider is looking because they are very secretive. They are not United. They are only conformists. They are obligated to conform to the same line of thought and ways prescribed by Watchtower But they are not United and are still struggling with the showing of Love amongst themselves. You have to be a member to understand this.

tctrills:
Is it really that bad

I wish I could tell you No but only someone that has lived that life or was born into it will be able to explain it to you. I was born into this religion. It's not what you can see as an observer looking from outside. You have to be a member to understand what I am saying.

Google Combating Cult Mind Control. or Steve Hassan's BITE MODEL of Authoritarian Control. Then you will understand.

tctrills:
To me, that is bondage. But if the JW people would not complain, let me not complain for them.

At the bolded, That is what a sane person should think. But in JW Land, it is Love. There is nothing like freedom of speech there. You are told how to act, how to speak like a JW, how to feel or what emotions to display at certain times, how to think, who to make friends with, who to marry, how to spend your alone time, the list is endless. You will need to act like a Robot and assume everything is fine with a big smile on your face. Many scandals, squabbles, rifts, in fact everything that happens elsewhere happens amongst them but to them, everything is fine and they are way better than others from other religions. Strong delusion. They are taught how to be Narcissistic and delusional They say they are in a Paradise. Spiritual Paradise. Have you watched Dystopian movies? Foreign Movies about Cults or about people in an enclosed space with several restrictions governing them with no freedom of speech? That's the JW Land.

This is one of the reasons why they are regarded as a Cult.

Templee333:
even when a CO talked disrespectfuly to a brother who's older than him,he'd be afraid of offending the CO & never retaliate. We took him like a god which must always be pleased & not be offended.Even when he's clearly at fault,we took the blame.

Exactly. A CO is actually like a god. He is never wrong too. Sad.

Wow wow wow. It is very clear that Almighty God in the heavens, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient, is NOT the God Mad Max worships. This is hilarious! His responses alone are a give away. No wonder your Freemason Watchtower believes Jehovah is Lucifer like this Freemason JW Elder in the video below. No wonder your own God has limitations! So, why get angry when you JWs are not regarded as Christians?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

tctrills:
That's interesting. But they seem to have a lot of power over the floor members.

Of course. They wield a lot of power. That is the way the religion is set up. You are never allowed to complain in this religion. Take everything as you see it. When you get home, you can complain to yourself and your family. Whenever they visit, everyone is on their best behaviour. JWs that don't go Preaching for a long time will resurface. JWs that have not been active will come to the hall. It is that time you will see faces you haven't seen. The hall will be full to the bream. Although, other JWs from other congregations like to come around CO's visits. Once they leave, you won't see those JWs again.

The COs are also privy to information that the Elders, Ministerial servants and the rest of JWs do not have access to.

tctrills:
So these CO's are like CEO's

They are not at the top of the pyramid. Their role is more like company men to enforce strict company code and monitor progress. They are Branch Managers who are able to monitor different branches/congregations. They are rotated.

tctrills:
This stories are very revealing.
Question: What happens is a CO is rude to you and you insult him back?

I have never seen this happen. COs can shout and be rude to JWs and JWs will be quiet and say nothing. After the CO is gone, they can open their mouth. But if that happens, I believe the JW that talks back will be disfellowshiped because that is regarded as Brazen conduct. Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong.

There are COs who have made it their aim to cause disorder in the congregation. They have made it clear that they are there to step Elders down who have children attending University. Stepping down means to remove the position or post a JW has in the religion. In the JW religion, if you have privileges or posts as an Elder or Ministerial servant, you are either not supposed to attend University or have children in the University. Watchtower frowns against higher education. So, Elders and Ministerial servants involved in it are seen as Bad examples for the congregation. They believe children of Elders and Ministerial servants should learn a trade instead and dedicate their lives strictly for the religion.In that way, they are shining examples to the rest of JWs. The religion comes first before anything else.

One CO came and stepped so many Elders and Ministerial servants down because of this. I have mentioned this experience before in anothef thread. When that CO left, the congregation started to complain and curse that CO out. They even said Satan is operating in this religion. Because of their complaints, the CO was never assigned to that congregation.

Templee333:
...this bro Tony didn't settle for less.Poor publishers who drink borehole water must contribute to buy him bottle water.We had to fueled & repaired his car even when no brother in our cong owned a car. But he never drove this car around because brothers had to use their bikes to gave him a ride througout the weeks wherever he went. All these wouldn't be an issue if JW publications don't heavily condemn christendom religious leaders for oppresing their poor members & making a fortune out of them. But Watchtower never talk abt their own leaders behaviour. Is that not hypocrisy of the highest order? However, some CO are considerate & doesn't demand too much frm the cong. The behaviour of a CO depends entirely on his personality & not the organization who claim to change people's life. Wicked people continue to be wicked no matter how long they've been in the JW org. They aren't different frm every other religion on that aspect.Their only excuse is "imperfection"...

To add to this, I know of a CO who never smiles. Ever! He was very arrogant and rude to everybody. I believe it is a Mental illness on his part. Once his visit begins, the atmosphere in the congregation is more of a company where a CEO visits and every staff is putting on their best behaviours and everyone is as quiet as possible so that their words are not misconstrued. I honestly don't understand why such a man is a CO. How did that happen?
When he wants to speak during his talks and he hears little noise from the back, he will be quiet for a long time and keep a frowning face. There will be this awkward silence in the hall. When the noise disappears, he will begin to speak.

The Elders are always getting the heat from this man. He is always screaming at Elders and Ministerial servants. He will insult all of them. Every one of them will keep their mouth shut!

All of these observations goes to show that the Organisation is not a Religion. It is a Corporation where Branch Managers who are the COs go to every congregation to maintain order and strict working conditions. This is why every CO is always concerned about inactive JWs and makes sure to visit them. Everything in this religion is run like a typical Corporation.

Templee333:
BEHAVIOURS OF COs
Some COs I knew were kind & friendly,but some were hot tempered & rude.Since COs change circuits frm time to time,we often endured the rude ones & prayed they should move to another circuit soon. One of such was brother Tony (not real name), he didn't take nonsense frm anyone. He often chose to stay in the home of the richest brother & the finest house.He didn't ever joke with his bills to the congregation,he billed them heavily. His list was something like this:
Barbing=N1500
Petrol(for his car)=N 7000
Mosquito coil=N1000
Toilet soap=800
Feeding=N12000
Laundry=N2000
...And the list continues.
After all these,he'd still condemn the congregation 4 not taking good care of him.Every circuit complained abt this particular CO. He was so discontented with whatever the cong did for him & the elders 're the ones he held responsibly in their final meeting of Sunday b4 leaving the cong. The cong were always owing him some money...

I would like to add to this post. Yes, I have experienced the high demands from COs. I know of one who had similar demands above and he preferred drinking water directly from Bethel only. He said he doesn't drink water from outside.

And Yes, these COs preferred to be hosted by rich brothers. Sometimes, it is these rich brothers that offer to host them. I have noticed that trend. If these brothers host these COs, the COs show some preferential treatment towards them. They don't criticise them about anything. See? This is generally the attitude towards the rich in this religion. Afterall, these rich brothers shower the COs with money. Some are gifted Cars. Yes, COs benefit a lot from the rich brothers. And the rich brothers in turn get immense respect. So, even if these brothers are not that serious in the religion, they just get a slap on the wrist for that whereas the JWs that are not rich get visits from the COs. There is a difference in treatment.

Templee333:
each publisher that wants to lodge still pay 4 dormitory fee in every convention/assembly

Exactly. They pay yet the dormitories have no beds but their higher ups have beds. That left a bad taste in my mouth. Where do all those money go? Why even pay fees when the dormitories are not comfortable for them? What's wrong with Watchtower making dormitories all have beds for everyone as a sign of giving to JWs? Are they not registered as a Charity/NGO?

Templee333:
...another area of preparation was our outfits. We had to go & disturb the tailor (& cry if necesary) to finish our clothes. The ladies had to go for a new hairstyle. Convention was a good time to boom the incomes of tailors & hairdressers. Then we got new shoes & other accessories. We hardly thought abt the convention theme or whatever they're going to preach frm the platform for the 3 days. Our minds dwell on the thrills of camping in the assembly hall,meeting other children & playing all manners of game we knew.Back then the rules weren't as rigid as they are today.Until construction workers frm the branch office came to demolish the old assembly hall & constructed a new one,the rules were easy to go with. It's the new Assembly hall that brought new & more rigid rules like limited number of people in a dormitory, aggresive security dogs parading the arena at nights,male not entering female dormitory,no cooking with firewoods & more unreasonable rules...

The first time I tried sleeping in the dormitory just to save money for transportation to and fro was the Last time I tried it. I was thoroughly disappointed. Why is it called a Dormitory when there are no beds? Are they expecting all JWs to bring their own mattresses and to sleep on the bare floor? What are they using the voluntary contributions during these conventions for? Let me guess, they all go straight to Watchtower. No. That is unacceptable in a so called God's organisation! Very disappointing! That was not all! Why were there separate comfortable rooms and beds for circuit Overseers and other higher ups but not for the regular JWs? I noticed that as well. Was that your observation too? Nobody prepared me for the uncomfortable nights I had to spend there.

Chai! What a Disgrace!